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I use the term HiFi loosely, an amp from Denon Mini system which would have retailed at about -u395 when newrCa.

I use it sometimes overnight to play rCLlullabysrCY.

In the small hours, it seems louderrCa..

Is this because ones ears become more sensitive (background noise appears
the same (nil)) or does lack of demand on the national grid at that time somehow boost the amps power (our hob seems more powerful for the same
setting at different times of day).

I suppose a 3rd option could be that the bluetooth signal from my phone is stronger in the wee small hours?
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Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the term HiFi loosely, an amp from Denon Mini system which would have retailed at about -u395 when newrCa.

I use it sometimes overnight to play rCLlullabysrCY.

In the small hours, it seems louderrCa..

Is this because ones ears become more sensitive (background noise appears
the same (nil)) or does lack of demand on the national grid at that time somehow boost the amps power (our hob seems more powerful for the same setting at different times of day).

I suppose a 3rd option could be that the bluetooth signal from my phone is stronger in the wee small hours?

DoesnrCOt everything sound louder at night. I have an Amazon Echo device in
my garage linked to my Ring doorbell which makes an announcement every time someone approaches the camera this can be heard outside fairly clearly in
the vicinity of the door sounding like normal conversation. However, at
night you can hear it at the bottom of the drive the sound just seems to
carry. I put it down to background noise during the day that is not there
at night. We live on the edge of a city with nothing but fields beyond us
and it is generally a very quiet neighbourhood and no industry around. I
can only surmise that there is background noise during the day and we have become so accustomed to it we do not notice it until it dies down then
every sound seems to carry.

Richard

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On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 16:50:12 -0000 (UTC), Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the term HiFi loosely, an amp from Denon Mini system which would have >retailed at about u395 when newa.

I use it sometimes overnight to play olullabyso.

In the small hours, it seems loudera..

Is this because ones ears become more sensitive (background noise appears
the same (nil)) or does lack of demand on the national grid at that time >somehow boost the amps power (our hob seems more powerful for the same >setting at different times of day).

I suppose a 3rd option could be that the bluetooth signal from my phone is >stronger in the wee small hours?

If it is consistently louder then yes, I'd say that it is relative to
the diminished background noise during the night.

My problem is that I download a lot of stuff as mp3s for the same
reason but they all seem to be recorded at different levels. So at one
moment I am drifting off to sleep against some cosy crime drama or
other and the next (or probably an hour or two later) I am shocked
awake by people screaming at each other in an afternoon play.

Nick
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On 12 Oct 2025 at 17:50:12 BST, Chris Holmes wrote:

I use the term HiFi loosely, an amp from Denon Mini system which would have retailed at about -u395 when newrCa.

I use it sometimes overnight to play rCLlullabysrCY.

In the small hours, it seems louderrCa..

Is this because ones ears become more sensitive (background noise appears
the same (nil)) or does lack of demand on the national grid at that time somehow boost the amps power (our hob seems more powerful for the same setting at different times of day).

I suppose a 3rd option could be that the bluetooth signal from my phone is stronger in the wee small hours?

IME, it's mainly psychological, particularly if you're trying to sleep or concentrate in other ways.

Also, the ambient noise floor matters, especially in cities. Even here, a couple of miles from the centre of Sheffield, it's pretty much countryside quiet in the middle of the night. Therefore, quiet sounds appear louder. Come commuter time, the ambient noise increases noticeably, affected (I think) most significantly by the wind speed/direction.
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On 13/10/2025 12:15, Nick Odell wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 16:50:12 -0000 (UTC), Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the term HiFi loosely, an amp from Denon Mini system which would have >> retailed at about -u395 when newrCa.

I use it sometimes overnight to play rCLlullabysrCY.

In the small hours, it seems louderrCa..

Is this because ones ears become more sensitive (background noise appears
the same (nil)) or does lack of demand on the national grid at that time
somehow boost the amps power (our hob seems more powerful for the same
setting at different times of day).

I suppose a 3rd option could be that the bluetooth signal from my phone is >> stronger in the wee small hours?

If it is consistently louder then yes, I'd say that it is relative to
the diminished background noise during the night.

Yes. Bluetooth is digital and won't affect sound levels

My problem is that I download a lot of stuff as mp3s for the same
reason but they all seem to be recorded at different levels. So at one
moment I am drifting off to sleep against some cosy crime drama or
other and the next (or probably an hour or two later) I am shocked
awake by people screaming at each other in an afternoon play.

BTDTGTTS

What I hate most is you tube 'autoplay' when I wake up with terrific nightmares due to the medication I take and find it is some gory crime thriller that has been autoplayed all night...

I am not sure if there is some kind of autolevelling for sound in
today's operating systems

Easyeffects purports to work for linux

https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

may work for windows

Nick

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This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"

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On 13/10/2025 15:22, RJH wrote:

Even here, a
couple of miles from the centre of Sheffield, it's pretty much countryside quiet in the middle of the night. Therefore, quiet sounds appear louder. Come commuter time, the ambient noise increases noticeably, affected (I think) most
significantly by the wind speed/direction.

The bliss of living where the 'rush hour' is three cars in an hour
instead of just one...

And the loudest thing is the Stratotankers, Rivet joints and F15s
revving up 15 miles away....
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 13/10/2025 15:22, RJH wrote:

Even here, a
couple of miles from the centre of Sheffield, it's pretty much countryside >> quiet in the middle of the night. Therefore, quiet sounds appear louder. Come
commuter time, the ambient noise increases noticeably, affected (I think) most
significantly by the wind speed/direction.

The bliss of living where the 'rush hour' is three cars in an hour
instead of just one...

And the loudest thing is the Stratotankers, Rivet joints and F15s
revving up 15 miles away....

We live in a similar situation, busy is when you get the schoolbus come
through and has to halt to collect a pupil . Always reminds me of this
<https://youtu.be/O-DsQm0QdxI?si=6AFXuXO4-5W2FD3w>

I do find when you are fortunate to live in such a situation that one
noise that stands out can be quite annoying, here there is a small light aircraft belonging to a flying school that regularly circuits around with
a varying engine note that is very irritating though conversely the
Spitfires doing experience flights from a nearish airfield donrCOt irritate because their engines sound nice.
As the missis reminds me we are not on a flight path to Heathrow.
Not that the countryside is always totally quiet , sometimes when people
are doing jobs you get the two stroke orchestra as several chainsaws,
strimmers ,concrete mixers blend together accompanied by the. rumble of
large diesel tractors , the roar of Army and RAF helicopters doing low
flying exercise
and a deep rumble in the background from tanks firing on Salisbury plain
20 miles which can be heard sometimes.

GH
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On 14/10/2025 09:19, Marland wrote:

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 13/10/2025 15:22, RJH wrote:

Even here, a
couple of miles from the centre of Sheffield, it's pretty much countryside >>> quiet in the middle of the night. Therefore, quiet sounds appear louder. Come
commuter time, the ambient noise increases noticeably, affected (I think) most
significantly by the wind speed/direction.

The bliss of living where the 'rush hour' is three cars in an hour
instead of just one...

And the loudest thing is the Stratotankers, Rivet joints and F15s
revving up 15 miles away....

We live in a similar situation, busy is when you get the schoolbus come through and has to halt to collect a pupil . Always reminds me of this
<https://youtu.be/O-DsQm0QdxI?si=6AFXuXO4-5W2FD3w>

You have a school bus?

I do find when you are fortunate to live in such a situation that one
noise that stands out can be quite annoying, here there is a small light aircraft belonging to a flying school that regularly circuits around with
a varying engine note that is very irritating though conversely the
Spitfires doing experience flights from a nearish airfield donrCOt irritate because their engines sound nice.

I get more WWI and earlier aircraft some days than light aircraft.
Spitfires & Hurricanes, a Mustang. A Harvcard. Tiger moths...

As the missis reminds me we are not on a flight path to Heathrow.

Abso**ING lutely. It's very rare to see an airliner here. At anything
less than 30,000 ft.

I grew up 15 miles from Heathrow and 2 miles from the Vickers 'secret' airfield regularly visited by V bombers and all manner of jets.

Not that the countryside is always totally quiet , sometimes when people
are doing jobs you get the two stroke orchestra as several chainsaws, strimmers ,concrete mixers blend together accompanied by the. rumble of
large diesel tractors , the roar of Army and RAF helicopters doing low
flying exercise

Ditto. The noisiest thing is when my neighbour is doing agriculture on
the land adjacent. A combine harvester till midnight or later is the
norm in August.

And apache helicopters use this are for training sometimes.

and a deep rumble in the background from tanks firing on Salisbury plain
20 miles which can be heard sometimes.

Ooh er missus. Did the earth move for you too?

GH

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rCo Confucius

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On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:56:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

I grew up 15 miles from Heathrow and 2 miles from the Vickers 'secret' >airfield regularly visited by V bombers and all manner of jets.

Ooh - I wonder if we used to be neighbours? Until the age of 12 I was
growing up in Sunbury on Thames: just a 237 bus ride from Hounslow and
then on to Heathrow's Queen's Building with my plane spotters' book
and I was just a bike ride away from Brooklands where my next-door
neighbour sometimes took me to watch them building the VC10

Nick
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On 14/10/2025 11:59, Nick Odell wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:56:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

I grew up 15 miles from Heathrow and 2 miles from the Vickers 'secret'
airfield regularly visited by V bombers and all manner of jets.

Ooh - I wonder if we used to be neighbours? Until the age of 12 I was
growing up in Sunbury on Thames: just a 237 bus ride from Hounslow and
then on to Heathrow's Queen's Building with my plane spotters' book
and I was just a bike ride away from Brooklands where my next-door
neighbour sometimes took me to watch them building the VC10

Nick

Nope. I lived down near Wisley and Eric Clapton's birthplace. Ripley.
Add in William of Ockham's birthplace, the Tyrell racing team, Barnes
Wallis in the next village, and Tommy Sopwith's old house in ours...
Hence the Hawker Horsley, which is where I grew up...

...Father was ex WWII Blenheim pilot and loved his planes and cars...

I grew up to the sound first of traffic, in outer London, and then to te
sound of military jets and airliners later on..

Now live in glorious silence.
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puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".


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Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:56:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

I grew up 15 miles from Heathrow and 2 miles from the Vickers 'secret'
airfield regularly visited by V bombers and all manner of jets.

Ooh - I wonder if we used to be neighbours? Until the age of 12 I was
growing up in Sunbury on Thames: just a 237 bus ride from Hounslow and
then on to Heathrow's Queen's Building with my plane spotters' book
and I was just a bike ride away from Brooklands where my next-door
neighbour sometimes took me to watch them building the VC10

Nick

I initially grew up and then returned frequently to Chiswick* where
sitting in Grans garden there was aircraft noise almost constantly the
period covered the introduction of the 707 displacing things like Bristol Britannias ending with 747rCOs and the Concorde with numerous other types on the way. Visits to the Queens building featured quite often.
Could not complain as my Uncle worked for BOAC/British airways a connection which was useful as I was taken into hangers to see aircraft like the VC10 under maintenance, canrCOt see them allowing that nowadays. Where we moved
to was a RAF low flying area so you got used to the sudden appearance of a Hunter and sometimes something different, but they and their sound came
and went quickly besides which watching them interesting rather than
irritation .
IrCOd grown up and moved on again by the time it entered service but on
visits back to my parents in North Devon a boom from Concorde could be
heard clearly as it had gone Supersonic somewhere off the Coast . That
wasnrCOt loud but was still discernible and enough to set pheasants etc off,
a lot of people missed that when it stopped.

As it happens it was my Uncles 90th recently and we had a family reunion in
the same l house in Chiswick and I was struck how quiet it was , the modern aircraft do seem much quieter or they are routed differently giving areas
a break,perhaps that is it as few years we visited Kew Gardens and did the
tree top walkway and the aircraft passing were very noticeable.

* One return was via Exeter to Heathrow on a C47 Dakota by a short lived airline called British Westpoint who operated three , one of them survives having been restored to its WW2 appearance and is part of the Berlin
airlift memorial at Frankfurt. Unfortunately I have no idea if that was
the one we flew in so it remains as a 1 in 3 chance.


GH
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