• Suggestions for weatherproof 'ballast sacks' for outdoor use?

    From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 10:48:06 2025
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    Hi All
    we have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren that needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene rubble sacks that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated (in
    the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative which
    would last for longer?

    Thanks, J^n

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  • From GB@NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 11:29:12 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 10:48, jkn wrote:
    Hi All
    -a-a-a-awe have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren that needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene rubble sacks
    that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated (in
    the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative which
    would last for longer?

    You don't want something fairly permanent, like concrete? You might be
    able to cast some lumps of concrete that fit over the play equipment, so
    they can be lifted up and moved.




    Thanks, J^n


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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 11:50:57 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 11:29, GB wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 10:48, jkn wrote:
    Hi All
    -a-a-a-a-awe have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren that >> needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene rubble
    sacks that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated (in
    the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative which
    would last for longer?

    You don't want something fairly permanent, like concrete? You might be
    able to cast some lumps of concrete that fit over the play equipment, so they can be lifted up and moved.

    No - I don't think it will have a life much beyond ... say a year's time

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  • From Simon Simple@nothanks@nottoday.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 12:03:09 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 10:48, jkn wrote:
    Hi All
    -a-a-a-awe have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren that needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene rubble sacks
    that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated (in
    the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative which
    would last for longer?

    Thanks, J^n


    Lots of coastal places use 'gull proof sacks' for domestic waste. I
    imagine these would be suitable for continuous outdoor use.
    --
    SS

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  • From GB@NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 15:37:35 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 11:50, jkn wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 11:29, GB wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 10:48, jkn wrote:
    Hi All
    -a-a-a-a-awe have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren that >>> needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene rubble
    sacks that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated (in
    the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative which
    would last for longer?

    You don't want something fairly permanent, like concrete? You might be
    able to cast some lumps of concrete that fit over the play equipment,
    so they can be lifted up and moved.

    No - I don't think it will have a life much beyond ... say a year's time

    Something like this perhaps?

    https://www.diy.com/departments/12-x-yuzet-black-woven-polypropylene-sandbags-sacks-sand-bags-uv-proof/5055557586151_BQ.prd


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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 15:45:37 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 15:37, GB wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 11:50, jkn wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 11:29, GB wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 10:48, jkn wrote:
    Hi All
    -a-a-a-a-awe have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren >>>> that needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene
    rubble sacks that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated
    (in the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative
    which would last for longer?

    You don't want something fairly permanent, like concrete? You might
    be able to cast some lumps of concrete that fit over the play
    equipment, so they can be lifted up and moved.

    No - I don't think it will have a life much beyond ... say a year's time

    Something like this perhaps?

    https://www.diy.com/departments/12-x-yuzet-black-woven-polypropylene- sandbags-sacks-sand-bags-uv-proof/5055557586151_BQ.prd


    Interesting, thanks. I had assumed that UV degradation came with the
    'woven polypropylene' construction.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 15:54:21 2025
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    jkn wrote:

    GB wrote:

    https://www.diy.com/departments/12-x-yuzet-black-woven-polypropylene-
    sandbags-sacks-sand-bags-uv-proof/5055557586151_BQ.prd

    Interesting, thanks. I had assumed that UV degradation came with the
    'woven polypropylene' construction.
    Black plastics generally have UV resistance (or maybe UV resistant
    plastics are generally black?)
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  • From fred@not@for.mail to uk.d-i-y on Sat Oct 11 16:33:13 2025
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in news:mkv9cuFb5deU1 @mid.individual.net:

    jkn wrote:

    GB wrote:

    https://www.diy.com/departments/12-x-yuzet-black-woven-polypropylene-
    sandbags-sacks-sand-bags-uv-proof/5055557586151_BQ.prd

    Interesting, thanks. I had assumed that UV degradation came with the
    'woven polypropylene' construction.

    Black plastics generally have UV resistance (or maybe UV resistant
    plastics are generally black?)

    I think it's carbon loading that provides the UV resistance (a UV blocker). Certainly the case in black (above ground) MDPE water pipes. Regular blue stuff should not be used above ground as it is not UV resistant.
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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Oct 16 11:03:42 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 15:37, GB wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 11:50, jkn wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 11:29, GB wrote:
    On 11/10/2025 10:48, jkn wrote:
    Hi All
    -a-a-a-a-awe have some 'outdoor play equipment' for the grandchildren >>>> that needs weighting down. I had some white woven polypropylene
    rubble sacks that I filled with ballast for this.

    This worked well for a few months but the sacks have deteriorated
    (in the sunlight, I presume). Can the team suggest an alternative
    which would last for longer?

    You don't want something fairly permanent, like concrete? You might
    be able to cast some lumps of concrete that fit over the play
    equipment, so they can be lifted up and moved.

    No - I don't think it will have a life much beyond ... say a year's time

    Something like this perhaps?

    https://www.diy.com/departments/12-x-yuzet-black-woven-polypropylene- sandbags-sacks-sand-bags-uv-proof/5055557586151_BQ.prd


    I ended up getting some of these bags via Amazon - a fair bit cheaper
    for larger quantities - so thanks for the suggestion.

    They are a bit smaller than the original 'rubble bags' I got from
    Screwfix, but size-wise they are adequate. We shall see how they last. I bought enough to re-do the filling in six months time, if that is
    necessary...

    Cheers
    J^n

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