| Sysop: | Amessyroom |
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| Location: | Fayetteville, NC |
| Users: | 27 |
| Nodes: | 6 (0 / 6) |
| Uptime: | 40:24:45 |
| Calls: | 631 |
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| Files: | 1,187 |
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For a couple of days now Tbird wont fetch new emails.
The bottom line just says "Host contacted, blah blah"
and eventually shows a message that the fetch operation
failed and asks for a new password.
I notice that the Windows log of security details hasPretty normal for Windows, nothing to do with TB, mine has 1300 of that
vast numbers of messages like the following being logged.
For a couple of days now Tbird wont fetch new emails.
The bottom line just says "Host contacted, blah blah"
and eventually shows a message that the fetch operation failed and asks
for a new password.
When I log into BT webmail directly I can all the new messages without
any issue.
I notice that the Windows log of security details has vast numbers of messages like the following being logged.
Log Name: Security Source:
Microsoft-Windows-Security-Auditing Date: 10/10/2025 14:39:26
Event ID: 5379 Task Category: User Account Management Level:
Information Keywords: Audit Success User: N/A Computer:
Skyd Description:
Credential Manager credentials were read.
Any idea what might have happened ?.
Apart from moving my PC, the only change was to use a DVI to HDMI cable because that was longer and the original HDMI->HDMI cable wasn't long
enough. I didn't see any unusual messages about this when switching my
PC on.
THe CPU fan is really busy even though all that was running was Tbird 115.10.1
Andrew
On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 16:42:42 +0100, Andrew wrote:
For a couple of days now Tbird wont fetch new emails.
The bottom line just says "Host contacted, blah blah"
and eventually shows a message that the fetch operation failed and asks
for a new password.
When I log into BT webmail directly I can all the new messages without
any issue.
I notice that the Windows log of security details has vast numbers of
messages like the following being logged.
Log Name: Security Source:
Microsoft-Windows-Security-Auditing Date: 10/10/2025 14:39:26
Event ID: 5379 Task Category: User Account Management Level:
Information Keywords: Audit Success User: N/A Computer:
Skyd Description:
Credential Manager credentials were read.
Any idea what might have happened ?.
Apart from moving my PC, the only change was to use a DVI to HDMI cable
because that was longer and the original HDMI->HDMI cable wasn't long
enough. I didn't see any unusual messages about this when switching my
PC on.
THe CPU fan is really busy even though all that was running was Tbird
115.10.1
Andrew
Couple of probably unrelated issues here:
(1) The fan running all the time. Start up Task Manager and see if there
is anything hogging the CPU. Also perhaps get an add on like Core Temp and see if this shows unusually high temperatures. I had issues recently which were resolved by replacing the thermal paste between the CPU and the heat sink.
(2) I have a long standing problem with Thunderbird where it is unable to send to one of my BT email accounts. It can pick mail up fine but can't
send. I haven't bothered to chase this in depth because I have another
email client which can do this fine.
So this may be the BT mail server having a sulk. Or not.
Cheers
Dave R
I have noticed that if I do not immediately enter my email
passwords, Tbird seems to just make an email request from BT without
waiting for me to enter passwords, and then I see the same sort of
error message.
For a couple of days now Tbird wont fetch new emails.
The bottom line just says "Host contacted, blah blah"
and eventually shows a message that the fetch operation
failed and asks for a new password.
When I log into BT webmail directly I can all the new
messages without any issue.
For a couple of days now Tbird wont fetch new emails.
The bottom line just says "Host contacted, blah blah"
and eventually shows a message that the fetch operation failed and asks
for a new password.
When I log into BT webmail directly I can all the new messages without
any issue.
I notice that the Windows log of security details has vast numbers of messages like the following being logged.
Log Name: Security Source:
Microsoft-Windows-Security-Auditing Date: 10/10/2025 14:39:26
Event ID: 5379 Task Category: User Account Management Level:
Information Keywords: Audit Success User: N/A Computer:
Skyd Description:
Credential Manager credentials were read.
Any idea what might have happened ?.
Apart from moving my PC, the only change was to use a DVI to HDMI cable because that was longer and the original HDMI->HDMI cable wasn't long
enough. I didn't see any unusual messages about this when switching my
PC on.
THe CPU fan is really busy even though all that was running was Tbird 115.10.1
Andrew wrote:
I have noticed that if I do not immediately enter my email
passwords, Tbird seems to just make an email request from BT without
waiting for me to enter passwords, and then I see the same sort of
error message.
Go into TB's saved passwords list, delete everything related to BT, get
TB to retrieve email, enter username and password when prompted, make
sure to tick the "remember" box, that should be it ... should just work
in future ...
Andrew wrote:
I have noticed that if I do not immediately enter my email
passwords, Tbird seems to just make an email request from BT without
waiting for me to enter passwords, and then I see the same sort of
error message.
Go into TB's saved passwords list, delete everything related to BT, get
TB to retrieve email, enter username and password when prompted, make
sure to tick the "remember" box, that should be it ... should just work
in future ...
On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 16:42:42 +0100, Andrew wrote:
For a couple of days now Tbird wont fetch new emails.
The bottom line just says "Host contacted, blah blah"
and eventually shows a message that the fetch operation failed and asks
for a new password.
When I log into BT webmail directly I can all the new messages without
any issue.
I notice that the Windows log of security details has vast numbers of
messages like the following being logged.
Log Name: Security Source:
Microsoft-Windows-Security-Auditing Date: 10/10/2025 14:39:26
Event ID: 5379 Task Category: User Account Management Level:
Information Keywords: Audit Success User: N/A Computer:
Skyd Description:
Credential Manager credentials were read.
Any idea what might have happened ?.
Apart from moving my PC, the only change was to use a DVI to HDMI cable
because that was longer and the original HDMI->HDMI cable wasn't long
enough. I didn't see any unusual messages about this when switching my
PC on.
THe CPU fan is really busy even though all that was running was Tbird
115.10.1
Is it possible there is a 2FA challenge being hidden from you ? I had to create an application password in my Hotmail account to allow apps like
TBird to use IMAP.
If you have an app password has it expired or been revoked ?No
Or has your
email provider changed the scope for permissions and require you to
generate a new one (favorite trick of Googles) ?
On 10/10/2025 21:23, Andy Burns wrote:
Andrew wrote:
I have noticed that if I do not immediately enter my email
passwords, Tbird seems to just make an email request from BT without
waiting for me to enter passwords, and then I see the same sort of
error message.
Go into TB's saved passwords list, delete everything related to BT,
get TB to retrieve email, enter username and password when prompted,
make sure to tick the "remember" box, that should be it ... should
just work in future ...
My only saved password is for eternal-september.
For a few days now it seems to get stuck on "host contacted, sending
login information...", then many minutes later, including after a
message about "no new messages" a banner appears saying "login failed,
retry, enter new pwd, cancel".
Even if I ignore the initial request for email passwords (which I never store), Tbird seems to contact my email provider anyway (presumably with
a blank password).
On 11/10/2025 19:50, Andrew wrote:
On 10/10/2025 21:23, Andy Burns wrote:If TBird has your password for E-S then that is what it will use.-a The "login failed" just indicates that the E-S login server isn't working.
Andrew wrote:
I have noticed that if I do not immediately enter my email
passwords, Tbird seems to just make an email request from BT without
waiting for me to enter passwords, and then I see the same sort of
error message.
Go into TB's saved passwords list, delete everything related to BT,
get TB to retrieve email, enter username and password when prompted,
make sure to tick the "remember" box, that should be it ... should
just work in future ...
My only saved password is for eternal-september.
For a few days now it seems to get stuck on "host contacted, sending
login information...", then many minutes later, including after a
message about "no new messages" a banner appears saying "login failed,
retry, enter new pwd, cancel".
Even if I ignore the initial request for email passwords (which I never
store), Tbird seems to contact my email provider anyway (presumably with
a blank password).
If, like me you have TBird set to look for messages every N minutes (whatever you have set it to) then it will keep trying at that interval,
and if you leave it running, eventually when E-S has sorted out its
problem you will get the mew messages come through.
Don't do anything with the banner. I just click on the X and it disappears.-a Provided you don't change your password it will eventually sort itself out.-a My longest ever wait for E-S to fix its login problem
was 3 days. Normally it is less than that.
CAUTION:-a I am running the latest ESR version of TBird, because they
don't seem to mess up that one accidentally.-a Your version if different
may not behave the same as mine.
Jim
I'm sure other people will be along to contradict this comment.
The saved password is for NG access only, and nothing to do
with my email provider.
Andrew wrote:
I'm sure other people will be along to contradict this comment.
The saved password is for NG access only, and nothing to do
with my email provider.
No contradiction; the E-S password will only be used for E-S.
Just to check, you *want* it to prompt for your email password every
time, instead of remembering it?
TB passwords are easy to recover if you know
where to find them.
Andrew wrote:
I'm sure other people will be along to contradict this comment.
The saved password is for NG access only, and nothing to do
with my email provider.
No contradiction;-a the E-S password will only be used for E-S.
Just to check, you *want* it to prompt for your email password every
time, instead of remembering it?