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I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting to be from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for Winter Fuel Payment. The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not anything in .gov.uk . Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the
.gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit
card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it. BEWARE!
Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting to be from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for Winter Fuel Payment. The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not anything in .gov.uk . Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the .gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it. BEWARE!
Report it here: https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/section/about-this-website/report-scam-website
And forward the text message to 7726 https://www.gov.uk/report-suspicious-emails-websites-phishing
Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting
to be from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to
claim for Winter Fuel Payment. The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not anything in .gov.uk . Looking at the
page shows a clever copy of the .gov.uk style, saying that they
need your contact info and debit/credit card details, and with
obfuscated Javascript driving it. BEWARE!
Report it here: https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/section/about-this-website/report-scam-website
And forward the text message to 7726 https://www.gov.uk/report-suspicious-emails-websites-phishing
On Sun, 05 Oct 2025 14:54:00 +0100
"Alan J. Wylie" <alan@wylie.me.uk> wrote:
Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting
to be from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to
claim for Winter Fuel Payment. The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not anything in .gov.uk . Looking at the
page shows a clever copy of the .gov.uk style, saying that they
need your contact info and debit/credit card details, and with
obfuscated Javascript driving it. BEWARE!
Report it here: https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/section/about-this-website/report-scam-website
And forward the text message to 7726 https://www.gov.uk/report-suspicious-emails-websites-phishing
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:Double click the message, so that it opens in a separate window, file/properties, then select the contents of the internet properties
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
-aEven Outlook?
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
Even Outlook? (Which an employer might insist on using, and also insist
that you check external emails for suspicious signs).
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
-aEven Outlook? (Which an employer might insist on using, and also
insist that you check external emails for suspicious signs).
On 05/10/2025 17:40, Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of
showing you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to
the origin of the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means
will include the word 'source', and will often be a 'Message
Source' entry under the 'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire
page displayed and send it or paste it.
-aEven Outlook? (Which an employer might insist on using, and also
insist that you check external emails for suspicious signs).
Yes, outlook will show you the entire message source. It will also
allow you to forward it as an attachment, so preserving the message.
However isn't this -?report a spam e-mail just there so you "feel"
someone is checking on these things. In fact they are just ignored?
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting to be from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for Winter Fuel Payment. The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not anything in .gov.uk . Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the
.gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit
card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it. BEWARE!
On 05/10/2025 13:49, Colin Macleod wrote:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting to beFor the information of anyone who receives a similar communication by
from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for Winter
Fuel Payment.-a The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not
anything in .gov.uk .-a Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the
.gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit
card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it.-a BEWARE!
text or email - Winter Fuel Payment DOES NOT need to be claimed.
On 05/10/2025 13:49, Colin Macleod wrote:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting to beFor the information of anyone who receives a similar communication by
from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for Winter
Fuel Payment.-a The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not
anything in .gov.uk .-a Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the
.gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit
card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it.-a BEWARE!
text or email - Winter Fuel Payment DOES NOT need to be claimed.
Anything that suggests otherwise is ALWAYS going to be a scam, the
recipient should NEVER click on any link in such messages.
Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:Double click the message, so that it opens in a separate window, file/properties, then select the contents of the internet properties field, copy it and paste it wherever ...
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
-a-aEven Outlook?
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 16:40:35 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk>
wrote:
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of
the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
Even Outlook? (Which an employer might insist on using, and also insist
that you check external emails for suspicious signs).
On Outlook you can mouseover the email address for the true email
address of the sender and right-click the email body for the source.
However isn't this -?report a spam e-mail just there so you "feel" someone is checking on these things. In fact they are just ignored?
On 06/10/2025 03:12, Indy Jess John wrote:
On 05/10/2025 13:49, Colin Macleod wrote:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purportingFor the information of anyone who receives a similar communication by
to be
from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for
Winter
Fuel Payment.-a The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not
anything in .gov.uk .-a Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the
.gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit
card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it.-a BEWARE!
text or email - Winter Fuel Payment DOES NOT need to be claimed.
Anything that suggests otherwise is ALWAYS going to be a scam, the
recipient should NEVER click on any link in such messages.
That is not totally correct. If you have deferred your pension, or if
you do not receive a qualifying benefit, but are old enough to qualify
you need to claim. See the following for details:-
https://www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/how-to-claim
.. and if your income is higher than -u35k (I think that is correct) you
may wish to opt out as that may result in you having to fill in a tax
return
Dave
G4UGM
On 05/10/2025 17:16, Nick Odell wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 16:40:35 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk>
wrote:
On 05/10/2025 15:24, Joe wrote:
Just a small addition: your email client will have a means of showing
you the entire email as sent, which may include clues to the origin of >>>> the email which you normally wouldn't see. The means will include the
word 'source', and will often be a 'Message Source' entry under the
'View' menu. Copy and paste the entire page displayed and send it or
paste it.
-a Even Outlook? (Which an employer might insist on using, and also
insist
that you check external emails for suspicious signs).
On Outlook you can mouseover the email address for the true email
address of the sender and right-click the email body for the source.
-aBut that does not give the entire email (missing headers).
On 05/10/2025 17:19, David Wade wrote:
However isn't this -?report a spam e-mail just there so you "feel"
someone is checking on these things. In fact they are just ignored?
-aOne email was recently sent out including "this is not a phishing
attempt and does not need reporting" after a previous one on the same
topic with a wide distribution looked highly suspicious.
Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
I am a pensioner in the UK. I just received a text (SMS) purporting to be
from the Department of Work and Pensions, inviting me to claim for Winter
Fuel Payment. The link given to claim is safewintergrant.net/uk, not
anything in .gov.uk . Looking at the page shows a clever copy of the
.gov.uk style, saying that they need your contact info and debit/credit
card details, and with obfuscated Javascript driving it. BEWARE!
Report it here: https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/section/about-this-website/report-scam-website
And forward the text message to 7726 https://www.gov.uk/report-suspicious-emails-websites-phishing