• GU10(ish) LED - removal? Three "fins"?

    From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 13:56:24 2025
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    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any bells? Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with this
    "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    Cheers



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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 14:15:48 2025
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    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    Cheers



    Dave R
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  • From The Nomad@nomad@the.desert.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 14:23:33 2025
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    On 29 Aug 2025 14:15:48 GMT, David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with
    this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?



    Yep,

    I suspect that the outer ring 'may' unscrew?

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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 14:32:20 2025
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    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with this
    "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    Yep. The fins looks like theyrCOre intended to have a torque applied to release a bayonet or screw fitting. Try harder. ;-)

    Downlighters are generally only held into the hole in the ceiling with a
    couple of spring clips so pulling the whole light fitting out might help to work out how to replace the bulb.


    Tim
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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 17:08:20 2025
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    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:32:20 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with
    this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    Yep. The fins looks like theyrCOre intended to have a torque applied to release a bayonet or screw fitting. Try harder. ;-)

    Downlighters are generally only held into the hole in the ceiling with a couple of spring clips so pulling the whole light fitting out might help
    to work out how to replace the bulb.


    Tim


    I'm trying to work out if the three fin bit is part of the bulb or part of
    a retaining device.

    Breaking the holder is more of an issue than breaking the bulb, obviously.

    Cheers



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  • From Tim+@timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 18:12:49 2025
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    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:32:20 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember >>>> changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used >>>> to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with
    this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    Yep. The fins looks like theyrCOre intended to have a torque applied to
    release a bayonet or screw fitting. Try harder. ;-)

    Downlighters are generally only held into the hole in the ceiling with a
    couple of spring clips so pulling the whole light fitting out might help
    to work out how to replace the bulb.


    Tim


    I'm trying to work out if the three fin bit is part of the bulb or part of
    a retaining device.

    The retaining device. GU10 bulbs are all the same diameter.

    Tim
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 19:37:56 2025
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    On 29/08/2025 14:56, David wrote:
    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    Mine inteact badly with a dimnmer and do it all the time at certain settings

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Didnt you fit the LED bulb?

    For MR16 12V bulbs you need to remove the ring around the bulb - just
    pry it from the ceiling...


    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any bells? Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    I think there are only the GU10 and MR16 bulb styles

    Many old LED bulb drivers are failing now. New stock is better


    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 19:39:11 2025
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    On 29/08/2025 15:15, David wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with this
    "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    I can. It looks like the rim needs removing and the fins are what holds
    the MR16 bulb in place. I think thats a 12V one


    Cheers



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  • From Tricky Dicky@tricky.dicky@sky.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 09:23:37 2025
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    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with this
    "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    Cheers



    Dave R


    I have those exact fittings in our conservatory and the inner chrome ring simply unscrews the bulb and its holder then simply fall down to allow you
    to remove it.

    Richard

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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 15:12:41 2025
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    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 19:37:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 29/08/2025 14:56, David wrote:
    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    Mine inteact badly with a dimnmer and do it all the time at certain
    settings

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Didnt you fit the LED bulb?

    For MR16 12V bulbs you need to remove the ring around the bulb - just
    pry it from the ceiling...


    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with
    this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    I think there are only the GU10 and MR16 bulb styles

    Many old LED bulb drivers are failing now. New stock is better

    No, this was part of a major extension and whole house rewire by
    tradespeople.

    This is the first dimmable LED to fail as far as I can recall.

    Cheers



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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 15:14:46 2025
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    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 09:23:37 +0000, Tricky Dicky wrote:

    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:56:24 +0000, David wrote:

    I have some LED down lighters which look very much like GU10

    One has started to strobe after some time of running.

    I think that these are original from 13 years ago, so I can't remember
    changing one.
    I've just looked, and the bulb isn't flat like the GU10 ones I am used
    to (removed with a rubber sucker).
    There are three "fins" around the edge of the bulb, inside the outer
    casing.
    It looks as though these might be for removing and refitting the bulb
    although gentle pressure isn't having any effect.

    Before I up the level of force, does this style of fitting ring any
    bells?
    Apart from anything else I can't immediately see any LED bulbs with
    this "fin" arrangement.

    I will post a photo later - shopping calls at the moment.

    <https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Kitchen_Down_Lighter.jpg>

    Can you see this OK?

    Cheers



    Dave R


    I have those exact fittings in our conservatory and the inner chrome
    ring simply unscrews the bulb and its holder then simply fall down to
    allow you to remove it.

    Richard

    Thanks.

    Encouraging to know that someone else has seen such a fitting.

    Onwards and upwards!

    Cheers



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