• MOT scam?

    From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 14:12:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be having
    a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.
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  • From Adrian@diy@ku.gro.lioff to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 14:25:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In message <mhdn9aF63hcU1@mid.individual.net>, Timatmarford <tim@marford.uk.com> writes
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    Not come across that one.

    A few years back, two years running, I had bulbs fail between the car
    leaving home and the test taking place.

    Adrian
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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 13:57:49 2025
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    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:12:10 +0100, Timatmarford wrote:

    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be having
    a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    What are your tyre pressures?

    High pressure tyres need a reinforced valve stem.

    Cheers



    Dave R
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 15:19:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
    In message <mhdn9aF63hcU1@mid.individual.net>, Timatmarford <tim@marford.uk.com> writes
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    Not come across that one.

    A few years back, two years running, I had bulbs fail between the car leaving home and the test taking place.

    Adrian

    The only time my motorcycle failed an MoT - and IrCOve owned it for 35 years
    - was due to a headlight bulb failure between leaving home and racking up
    at the testing station.
    --
    Spike

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  • From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 17:06:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:57:49 +0000, David wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:12:10 +0100, Timatmarford wrote:

    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    What are your tyre pressures?

    High pressure tyres need a reinforced valve stem.

    I received a response, but to my email account.
    Which, surprisingly, is a valid address.

    Cheers



    Dave R
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 18:13:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    David wrote:

    I received a response, but to my email account.

    From a thunderbird user?
    MZLA have put out a feeler on whether people would like the "second"
    reply button removing, which is basically what confuses people intodoing
    that ...

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 19:28:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/08/2025 14:25, Adrian wrote:
    In message <mhdn9aF63hcU1@mid.individual.net>, Timatmarford <tim@marford.uk.com> writes
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    Not come across that one.

    A few years back, two years running, I had bulbs fail between the car leaving home and the test taking place.

    Adrian

    I had a rear seat belt extended, twisted and put back into the reel
    housing, effectively jamming it

    I had to buy some weird pointy socket thingy to remove the panel to
    untwist it...
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    on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
    projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

    Richard Lindzen

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 19:30:12 2025
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    On 29/08/2025 18:13, Andy Burns wrote:
    David wrote:

    I received a response, but to my email account.

    From a thunderbird user?
    MZLA have put out a feeler on whether people would like the "second"
    reply button removing, which is basically what confuses people intodoing that ...

    I seem to be running an addon that removes it from the news client
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 20:19:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/08/2025 19:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I had a rear seat belt extended, twisted and put back into the reel
    housing, effectively jamming it

    I had to buy some weird pointy socket thingy to remove the panel to
    untwist it...

    I once had a rear middle seat belt MOT fail. It turned out that if the
    rear seat back wasn't correctly in the locating clips the seat belt
    couldn't be extended (locked up). Prior to the MOT i had been running
    with the rear seat folded down in order to carry a large load. A quick
    tap on the seat back and it fully clipped in to the locating lugs and
    the seat belt worked correctly again.
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Aug 29 21:23:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/08/2025 18:06, David wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 13:57:49 +0000, David wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:12:10 +0100, Timatmarford wrote:

    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    What are your tyre pressures?

    High pressure tyres need a reinforced valve stem.

    I received a response, but to my email account.
    Which, surprisingly, is a valid address.

    Oops. Holidayitis!

    Diesel Fiesta. 33psi front rear depends on the load 27-33 perhaps.


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  • From wasbit@wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 09:47:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/08/2025 14:25, Adrian wrote:
    In message <mhdn9aF63hcU1@mid.individual.net>, Timatmarford <tim@marford.uk.com> writes
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    Not come across that one.

    A few years back, two years running, I had bulbs fail between the car leaving home and the test taking place.


    Coincedentally I had a headlight bulb go on the way back from an MOT
    which the car had just passed.
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 10:43:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 30/08/2025 09:47, wasbit wrote:
    On 29/08/2025 14:25, Adrian wrote:
    In message <mhdn9aF63hcU1@mid.individual.net>, Timatmarford
    <tim@marford.uk.com> writes
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    Not come across that one.

    A few years back, two years running, I had bulbs fail between the car
    leaving home and the test taking place.


    Coincedentally I had a headlight bulb go on the way back from an MOT
    which the car had just passed.

    So. Has anyone had a threatened failure due to aged tubeless tyre
    pressure valves?
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  • From mm0fmf@none@invalid.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 13:25:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/08/2025 14:12, Timatmarford wrote:
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be having
    a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    You can appeal the MOT fail to the DVSA if you think they playing silly buggers.

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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 15:24:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 30/08/2025 13:25, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 29/08/2025 14:12, Timatmarford wrote:
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    You can appeal the MOT fail to the DVSA if you think they playing silly buggers.

    Hmm. I needed the vehicle to get home plus, it is the wife's car and we
    have a visiting friend to cart about.>

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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 16:38:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 30/08/2025 15:24, Timatmarford wrote:
    On 30/08/2025 13:25, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 29/08/2025 14:12, Timatmarford wrote:
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    You can appeal the MOT fail to the DVSA if you think they playing
    silly buggers.

    Hmm. I needed the vehicle to get home plus, it is the wife's car and we
    have a visiting friend to cart about.>

    Right. Further searching produced this: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/5-axles-wheels-tyres-and-suspension#section-5-2-3

    Under section J it says: A tyre valve seriously damaged or misaligned
    likely to cause sudden deflation.

    I should have asked to be shown the problem as they seemed OK when I
    checked the pressures before the test!

    Oh well.>

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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 17:29:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 29/08/2025 20:19, alan_m wrote:
    On 29/08/2025 19:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I had a rear seat belt extended, twisted and put back into the reel
    housing, effectively jamming it

    I had to buy some weird pointy socket thingy to remove the panel to
    untwist it...

    I once had a rear middle seat belt MOT fail. It turned out that if the
    rear seat back wasn't correctly in the locating clips the seat belt
    couldn't be extended (locked up).-a Prior to the MOT i had been running
    with the rear seat folded down in order to carry a large load. A quick
    tap on the seat back and it fully clipped in to the locating lugs and
    the seat belt worked correctly again.


    Exactly the same issue I had with my 59 reg astra estate.

    The centre belt was interlocked to the seat back retaining
    clips, preventing middle seat usage if the seat back was not
    fully clicked back. Over time, the heat of sitting in the
    sun with the seat backs down, dried up the grease in the
    ?bowden cables connecting seat locating clips with the
    centre reel, which duly locked itself full retracted.

    Expensive MOT failure, even though I never carry back
    seat passengers !.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sat Aug 30 23:36:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 30/08/2025 13:25, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 29/08/2025 14:12, Timatmarford wrote:
    MOT failure on two tubeless tyre valve stems!

    Refit tyres and re-balance plus -u2.00 each valve. No air loss, no
    visible perish damage. Not projecting far enough for kerb damage.

    Not expensive but provides work for their tyre dept. who might be
    having a quiet day.

    I know faulty pressure sender valves are a fail but not found any
    reference to this on a simple search.

    You can appeal the MOT fail to the DVSA if you think they playing silly buggers.

    +1. And I did once, and they got a rap on the knuckles too
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