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I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk
on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires,
no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over
one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic style cleaned PV panels?
I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk
on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires,
no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over
one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic style cleaned PV panels?
In article <108pbh3$19bl7$1@dont-email.me>,
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk
on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires,
no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over
one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic style
cleaned PV panels?
When, 30+ years ago, the BBC built a naturally powered TV transmitter ,
they had to add windscreen washer/wipers to the solar panel because of seagull mess.
I was assuming inverter design had moved on and could step up very low voltage DC of cells/panels in parallel , up to synthesised AC mains
voltage, or even active switching out/bypassing of underperforming cells individually .
I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires, no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic style cleaned PV panels?
This company uses deionized water while cleaning (and no soap).
You could eat off those panels.
If the funding organization and the group making money off the panels
are two different groups, there might be little incentive to wash them off.
With the exception of companies wishing to sell you services, I don't
know if I've seen pictures taken of the solar panels users doing this
sort of cleaning (as a regular activity). The ones in snow country, I can believe some of those receive more attention. Even though the panels tend to get
hot, if you have a snowfall at night, you can build up quite a layer on top.
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've seen videos of [solar] panels installed in very arid regions/countries when
they get covered in a thick layer of dust/sand etc. and they do have to
be washed down with water on a regular basis.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've seen videos of [solar] panels installed in very arid regions/countries when
they get covered in a thick layer of dust/sand etc. and they do have to
be washed down with water on a regular basis.
So, not very environmentally friendly, then, using water to clean them, in arid regionsrCa
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've seen videos of [solar] panels installed in very arid regions/countries when
they get covered in a thick layer of dust/sand etc. and they do have to
be washed down with water on a regular basis.
So, not very environmentally friendly, then, using water to clean them, in arid regionsrCa
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've seen videos of [solar] panels installed in very arid regions/countries when
they get covered in a thick layer of dust/sand etc. and they do have to
be washed down with water on a regular basis.
So, not very environmentally friendly, then, using water to clean them, in arid regionsrCa
On 29/08/2025 09:03, Spike wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've seen videos of [solar] panels installed in very arid
regions/countries when
they get covered in a thick layer of dust/sand etc. and they do have to
be washed down with water on a regular basis.
So, not very environmentally friendly, then, using water to clean
them, in
arid regionsrCa
When has "green" energy had anything to do with being environmentally friendly?
So many crackpot schemes so long as it's "not in my backyard"
I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk
on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires,
no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over
one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic style cleaned PV panels?
On 28/08/2025 11:37, N_Cook wrote:
I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk
on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires,
no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over
one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic
style cleaned PV panels?
I noticed a pigeon splat on one of my panels recently, I thought, ummm, because you have to carefully remove them from car body work. I
carefully fired my garden hose at it, (live in a bungalow) and to my
surprise it just fell off !
I get our window cleaner to clean them spring and autumn using
de-ionised water. There was a lot of dust on them this week (though I couldn't see any measurable reduction in output). Anyway, yesterday's
deluge of rain has restored them to sparkling.
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've just spent a period in a UK rural location surrounded by fields
that haven't had any rain for the past 8/10 weeks my car windscreen was covered in a fine layer of dust (blown soil) every day. I would expect
the same to have happened in a UK solar farm.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:...
On 28/08/2025 17:15, Paul wrote:
I've just spent a period in a UK rural location surrounded by fields
that haven't had any rain for the past 8/10 weeks my car windscreen was
covered in a fine layer of dust (blown soil) every day. I would expect
the same to have happened in a UK solar farm.
some reports say that the spectacular sunsets we have
been having are due to particles from fires as far away as Canada though I donrCOt know where they eventually fall to the ground.
As you said the recent rain has given things a rinse.
I travelled on top deck of a bus through a seasode town.
I was amazed the number of seagull guano splats and general dusty mirk
on the rooftop panels, perhaps from heatwagves and Canadian wildfires,
no local wildfires.
Don't know about these days but in earlier PV days, a splat fully over
one cell of a PV panel very muched reduced the output of that panel
and also all those in series with it, same these days?
How much are people/the nation loosing out by not having germanic style cleaned PV panels?
