• Re: TOT: Capital Gains Tax on homes

    From Vir Campestris@vir.campestris@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Aug 24 21:15:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 13/08/2025 14:54, Joe wrote:
    The very first thing to argue about is how to index the purchase price.
    It is indisputable that something higher in value than one Pound
    Sterling today was one Pound Sterling yesterday. It is apparently
    acceptable for currency to be deliberately devalued by two percent a
    year, and it has certainly been more than two percent in all of the
    last few years.
    <snip>

    Tax paid on interest in investments is paid on the interest with no
    index linking. While we have high inflation and high interest rates that
    can be considerable - even when the interest rate is less than inflation.

    I've probably made a "profit" on my house, but I still own the exact
    same house. I am no better off. The only way to cash it in is to sell up
    and live in my car.

    I have no doubt that such a scheme would not allow for all the money we
    spent doing it up either - new roof, new wiring, new heating, new garage...

    Andy
    --
    Do not listen to rumour, but, if you do, do not believe it.
    Ghandi.
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sun Aug 24 22:44:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 21:15:11 +0100, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 13/08/2025 14:54, Joe wrote:
    The very first thing to argue about is how to index the purchase price.
    It is indisputable that something higher in value than one Pound
    Sterling today was one Pound Sterling yesterday. It is apparently
    acceptable for currency to be deliberately devalued by two percent a
    year, and it has certainly been more than two percent in all of the
    last few years.
    <snip>

    Tax paid on interest in investments is paid on the interest with no
    index linking. While we have high inflation and high interest rates that
    can be considerable - even when the interest rate is less than inflation.

    I've probably made a "profit" on my house, but I still own the exact
    same house. I am no better off. The only way to cash it in is to sell up
    and live in my car.

    I have no doubt that such a scheme would not allow for all the money we >spent doing it up either - new roof, new wiring, new heating, new garage...

    Interestingly, although I asked the question purely hypothetically, it
    was discussed on the radio this morning as a possibility.
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Mon Aug 25 12:44:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    snipped for brevity.


    I thought CGT was originally indexed for inflation - checks
    Wikipedia - yes, looks like until 1998. Then until 2008 there was
    some relief for long-term assests. I assume both of those were
    abolished because they drove undesirable behaviour of some kind.

    My understanding too. Indexation > taper relief > no relief at all. I incurred some CGT liability recently and the acquisition cost was,
    well, what it cost.

    I told you already, next will be HMRC's Non-Employee of the Year Award!
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Mon Aug 25 18:12:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:44:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
    wrote:

    snipped for brevity.


    I thought CGT was originally indexed for inflation - checks
    Wikipedia - yes, looks like until 1998. Then until 2008 there was
    some relief for long-term assests. I assume both of those were
    abolished because they drove undesirable behaviour of some kind.

    My understanding too. Indexation > taper relief > no relief at all. I
    incurred some CGT liability recently and the acquisition cost was,
    well, what it cost.

    I told you already, next will be HMRC's Non-Employee of the Year Award!

    I don't know whether this is good or bad :-)
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Mon Aug 25 21:16:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:12:31 +0100
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:44:33 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
    wrote:

    snipped for brevity.


    I thought CGT was originally indexed for inflation - checks
    Wikipedia - yes, looks like until 1998. Then until 2008 there was
    some relief for long-term assests. I assume both of those were
    abolished because they drove undesirable behaviour of some kind.

    My understanding too. Indexation > taper relief > no relief at
    all. I incurred some CGT liability recently and the acquisition
    cost was, well, what it cost.

    I told you already, next will be HMRC's Non-Employee of the Year
    Award!

    I don't know whether this is good or bad :-)

    Personally, I would bury it in some deep bog. Preferably under a wind
    turbine.
    --
    Davey.

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