• Free Mini - now what?

    From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 15:00:47 2025
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    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the
    power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I
    shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines?
    OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 15:30:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 09/10/2025 15:00, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I
    shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines?
    OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?


    Good find! That's a 2012 Mac Mini - still a capable machine. The circle-and-line symbol (prohibited sign) means it can't find a bootable system, which matches what you were told about no OS.

    Getting it working:

    1. First, address that rattle
    Before investing time in software, open it up and find what's loose.
    Common culprits:

    Loose screw rolling around
    Disconnected or damaged hard drive
    Memory not fully seated

    The 2012 Mac Mini opens from the bottom (twist the base
    counter-clockwise). Check the HDD connections and reseat the RAM while
    you're in there.

    2. Install an operating system

    Your options, from easiest to best performance:
    Option A: Internet Recovery (simplest)

    Hold Cmd + Option + R while powering on
    Connect to WiFi when prompted
    This downloads and installs the OS that shipped with it (likely OS X
    Mountain Lion)
    Takes a while but requires no other equipment

    Option B: USB installer (faster, more control)

    On another Mac, download a compatible OS installer
    For a 2012 Mini, you can run up to macOS Monterey 12 with a patcher, or officially up to macOS Catalina 10.15
    Create a bootable USB using Terminal or tools like DiskMaker X
    Boot holding Option and select the USB

    3. Consider an SSD upgrade

    That 120GB Kingston HDD is likely the bottleneck. A cheap SATA SSD would
    make this machine feel dramatically faster. Since you're opening it
    anyway to fix the rattle, it's the perfect time.
    Practical uses once running:

    Media server (Plex/Jellyfin)
    Network backup (Time Machine server)
    Retro gaming/emulation (it'll handle classic console emulators beautifully) Home automation hub
    Linux box (runs Ubuntu/Debian well)

    What's your comfort level with opening it up? And do you have access to another Mac to create installation media?
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 15:56:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I
    shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines?
    OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard).
    It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    Theo
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 16:04:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 09/10/2025 15:56, Theo wrote:
    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the
    power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I
    shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines?
    OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard).
    It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    Theo


    IAWTP EfOe

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 16:22:12 2025
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    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard).
    It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    I think that must be the case.

    I plugged it into my Ethernet system before I pressed the magic button combination and it seems to have found my router. There is a spinning
    World on the display, the Ethernet hub is flickering away vigorously and
    a progress bar is showing 17 minutes to go.

    Many Thanks
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 17:19:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard).
    It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    It offers me the option to install High Sierra but when I click on the
    start button it hangs for about a minute and then displays: "The
    recovery server could not be contacted".
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From Alan B@alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Thu Oct 9 16:32:58 2025
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    On 9 Oct 2025 at 17:19:53 GMT+1, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the >>> power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I
    shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? >>> OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard). >> It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    It offers me the option to install High Sierra but when I click on the
    start button it hangs for about a minute and then displays: "The
    recovery server could not be contacted".

    Anoither alternative would be to download the HS installer from here: <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/106377>
    Then create a bootable installer on a USB stick of at 4GB in HS's case usiong the CLI:
    <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/101578>
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 10:09:04 2025
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    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard).
    It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    I've managed to get it going.

    Apparently the "The recovery server could not be contacted" is a known
    problem and was thought to be caused by a discrepancy between the
    computer's clock and the server's clock. I corrected the computer's
    clock but it made no difference.

    Then I discovered that a much more complex issue has been found: the
    Apple 'https' download address doesn't work because of a security error.
    There is a helpful video by "Mr. Macintosh" on YouTube describing the work-around. To my great astonishment I was able to follow the
    instructions and it worked!

    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent
    'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up.
    Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value
    likely to be stored on it. I am also waondering what to do with it when
    I have finished playing about.



    In case anyone else needs the work-around, it is as follows:
    (I have used pairs of tildes ~ to enclose my own quotations.)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOADING HIGH SIERRA AFTER RECEIVING A FAILURE MESSAGE:
    "The recovery server could not be contacted".

    In Terminal type ~date~
    Check that the date and time are correct (UTC)

    Try to reinstate the OS from the recovery window. Wait for it to fail.

    Go to ~window>installer log~

    Look for the failure message beginning ~failed to load catalog~

    Copy the failure message.

    Close the failure message box on the recovery window.

    In Terminal, Paste the failure message.

    Identify the URL and Copy it (excluding the final colon).

    Type (case sensitive) ~nvram IASUCatalogURL="~
    Paste the previously copied URL after the quotation mark.

    CTRL-A, then use direction keys to move the cursor to the colon after
    the https
    Back-delete to remove the ~s~ from ~https~, leaving ~http~.

    CTRL-E to move cursor to the end
    Type the final ~"~ and press the Enter key.

    Quit Terminal.

    From the recovery window select ~Reinstate Mac OS~

    Click Continue (twice)

    Await results.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From David B.@BDonBlockNews@invalid.invalid to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 10:41:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/10/2025 10:09, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and
    at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch
    it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the >>> power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I
    shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something
    will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? >>> OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard). >> It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    I've managed to get it going.

    Well done you! EfOe
    Apparently the "The recovery server could not be contacted" is a known problem and was thought to be caused by a discrepancy between the
    computer's clock and the server's clock. I corrected the computer's
    clock but it made no difference.

    Noted.
    Then I discovered that a much more complex issue has been found: the
    Apple 'https' download address doesn't work because of a security error. There is a helpful video by "Mr. Macintosh" on YouTube describing the work-around. To my great astonishment I was able to follow the
    instructions and it worked!

    A link to the YT might have been helpful to others.
    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent 'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up. Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value likely to be stored on it. I am also wondering what to do with it when
    I have finished playing about.

    Keep it as a back-up for when your current equipment fails (as it well!)

    In case anyone else needs the work-around, it is as follows:
    (I have used pairs of tildes ~ to enclose my own quotations.)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOADING HIGH SIERRA AFTER RECEIVING A FAILURE MESSAGE:
    "The recovery server could not be contacted".

    In Terminal type ~date~
    Check that the date and time are correct (UTC)

    Try to reinstate the OS from the recovery window. Wait for it to fail.

    Go to ~window>installer log~

    Look for the failure message beginning ~failed to load catalog~

    Copy the failure message.

    Close the failure message box on the recovery window.

    In Terminal, Paste the failure message.

    Identify the URL and Copy it (excluding the final colon).

    Type (case sensitive) ~nvram IASUCatalogURL="~
    Paste the previously copied URL after the quotation mark.

    CTRL-A, then use direction keys to move the cursor to the colon after
    the https
    Back-delete to remove the ~s~ from ~https~, leaving ~http~.

    CTRL-E to move cursor to the end
    Type the final ~"~ and press the Enter key.

    Quit Terminal.

    From the recovery window select ~Reinstate Mac OS~

    Click Continue (twice)

    Await results.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    *Thanks for adding this information*

    D.

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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 11:24:15 2025
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    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent 'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up. Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value likely to be stored on it. I am also waondering what to do with it when
    I have finished playing about.

    System Settings -> Users and Groups -> Automatically login as <username>

    Theo
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 12:37:28 2025
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    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is 4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan 2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard). It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS.

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    I've managed to get it going.

    Apparently the "The recovery server could not be contacted" is a known problem and was thought to be caused by a discrepancy between the
    computer's clock and the server's clock. I corrected the computer's
    clock but it made no difference.

    Then I discovered that a much more complex issue has been found: the
    Apple 'https' download address doesn't work because of a security error. There is a helpful video by "Mr. Macintosh" on YouTube describing the work-around. To my great astonishment I was able to follow the
    instructions and it worked!

    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent 'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up. Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value likely to be stored on it. I am also waondering what to do with it when
    I have finished playing about.

    System prefs. -> Users -> unlock -> login options -> automatic login ->
    select user -> give pswd.

    It will now boot without asking again for the password,
    as long as you don't try to switch users.
    You may need to give yourself Admin privs.,
    don't remember,

    Jan
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  • From David Sankey@David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 11:43:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/10/2025 11:37, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and >>>> at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is
    4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan
    2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch >>>> it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the >>>> power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I >>>> shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something >>>> will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? >>>> OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard). >>> It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS. >>>
    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    I've managed to get it going.

    Apparently the "The recovery server could not be contacted" is a known
    problem and was thought to be caused by a discrepancy between the
    computer's clock and the server's clock. I corrected the computer's
    clock but it made no difference.

    Then I discovered that a much more complex issue has been found: the
    Apple 'https' download address doesn't work because of a security error.
    There is a helpful video by "Mr. Macintosh" on YouTube describing the
    work-around. To my great astonishment I was able to follow the
    instructions and it worked!

    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent
    'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up.
    Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value
    likely to be stored on it. I am also waondering what to do with it when
    I have finished playing about.

    System prefs. -> Users -> unlock -> login options -> automatic login -> select user -> give pswd.

    It will now boot without asking again for the password,
    as long as you don't try to switch users.
    You may need to give yourself Admin privs.,
    don't remember,

    This is definitely the way to go, 'Single User' mode is something quite different for very specific (generally recovery) circumstances and very
    much a bad idea for general use. First account will have Admin rights by default.

    D
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 13:52:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

    On 11/10/2025 11:37, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I have been given a Mac Mini which appears basically complete and
    undamaged, I was told it has no OS. It contains a Kington 120GB HD and >>>> at least two Crucial memory boards, the top one of which I can see is >>>> 4GB. According to the serial number it was first purchased on 2 Jan >>>> 2012.

    I have connected it to my existing monitor and keyboard. When I switch >>>> it on it goes "Boing!" and the screen lights up grey with a
    circle-and-line warning symbol. It shuts down tidily if I hold down the >>>> power button. There is a rattling noise if I shake it, so I suppose I >>>> shall have to locate the cause of that.

    I have no particular use in mind at the moment but I am sure something >>>> will suggest itself once I get it working (backup for my other machines? >>>> OS8 emulator?).

    How do I get it working?

    Hold down Option-Command-R when powering up (Ctrl-Alt-R on a PC keyboard).
    It should boot into Internet Recovery from where it can fetch an OS
    installer from the internet. That will get you the latest supported OS. >>>
    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl338cf9a8/mac

    (I'm assuming it's been wiped so the HD has no OS on it, which is the
    cause of it not booting)

    I've managed to get it going.

    Apparently the "The recovery server could not be contacted" is a known
    problem and was thought to be caused by a discrepancy between the
    computer's clock and the server's clock. I corrected the computer's
    clock but it made no difference.

    Then I discovered that a much more complex issue has been found: the
    Apple 'https' download address doesn't work because of a security error. >> There is a helpful video by "Mr. Macintosh" on YouTube describing the
    work-around. To my great astonishment I was able to follow the
    instructions and it worked!

    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent
    'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up. >> Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value
    likely to be stored on it. I am also waondering what to do with it when >> I have finished playing about.

    System prefs. -> Users -> unlock -> login options -> automatic login -> select user -> give pswd.

    It will now boot without asking again for the password,
    as long as you don't try to switch users.
    You may need to give yourself Admin privs.,
    don't remember,

    This is definitely the way to go, 'Single User' mode is something quite different for very specific (generally recovery) circumstances and very
    much a bad idea for general use. First account will have Admin rights by default.

    Of course, there must be at least one admin account.
    Some users prefer to ignore the default Admin,
    and to log in without admin privs on another non-admin account.
    (perhaps they don't trust themselves not to make damaging mistakes,
    or they suffer from security mania)

    I don't remember whether automatic log in still works
    under those circumstances, hence my remark,
    (guess yes, but...)

    Jan

    PS for Liz, once you have automatic login enabled
    you can run the Mini headless, as server,
    or for tedious jobs that don't need attention.
    (monitor emulator recommended for adequate resolution)
    You can control it in screen sharing.
    (you may even use it to run MacSoup :-)

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 13:48:46 2025
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    J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

    [...]

    PS for Liz, once you have automatic login enabled
    you can run the Mini headless, as server,
    or for tedious jobs that don't need attention.
    (monitor emulator recommended for adequate resolution)
    You can control it in screen sharing.
    (you may even use it to run MacSoup :-)

    I'll look into that, it could be useful as a backup for the main
    computer. Firstly I have to get it to talk to my G3, which I seem to
    remember needed an FTP option to be added.

    An alternative is to make it emulate OS8.6, which would be really useful because most of my day-to-day work is done on the G3.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 13:48:46 2025
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    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I am now playing about trying to find a way of switching into permanent 'Single User' mode to avoid the annoying password rigmarole at start-up. Nobody else has access to the machine and there is nothing of any value likely to be stored on it. I am also waondering what to do with it when
    I have finished playing about.

    System Settings -> Users and Groups -> Automatically login as <username>

    Thanks ...Done
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sat Oct 11 14:48:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/10/2025 13:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    most of my day-to-day work is done on the G3.

    WHY?!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3

    It SHOULD be in a museum! ;-)
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Oct 12 09:41:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

    [...]

    PS for Liz, once you have automatic login enabled
    you can run the Mini headless, as server,
    or for tedious jobs that don't need attention.
    (monitor emulator recommended for adequate resolution)
    You can control it in screen sharing.
    (you may even use it to run MacSoup :-)

    I'll look into that, it could be useful as a backup for the main
    computer. Firstly I have to get it to talk to my G3, which I seem to remember needed an FTP option to be added.

    An alternative is to make it emulate OS8.6, which would be really useful because most of my day-to-day work is done on the G3.

    Apple Remote Desktop, (ARD) so screen sharing,
    is suposed to be able to see OS8 computers,
    but I guess it won't work the other way round,

    Jan

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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Oct 12 09:41:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    David B. <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/10/2025 13:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    most of my day-to-day work is done on the G3.

    WHY?!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3

    It SHOULD be in a museum! ;-)

    It is :-)

    Jan
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