• Re: EtreCheck - claimed by ChatGPT to be "Open Source"

    From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 12:34:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 11:20, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 10:42, David B. wrote:
    EtreCheck - claimed by ChatGPT to be "Open Source"

    It is NOT, of course!

    See https://github.com/turtlepa/EtreCheck

    Has anyone explored this aspect of the product?

    Seriously, you need professional help mate and as you seem to think you
    are entitled to push your way into people lives, I may well look into
    seeing how some sort of intervention can be arranged for you.

    I've been doing that very thing for my elderly widowed friend who is now approaching her 'end of life' situation. I find it quite appalling that
    there is so little help available.
    Do you really not yet have a clue that EVERYONE here is completely sick
    of your crazy hyperfocus on such things, this, unlike the things I know
    to be important and that are actually impacting every living thing on
    this planet.

    Where else, apart from this tiny, weeny, part of the Internet, are you
    trying to get your important message across?

    GET HELP NOW (and this may come as a big surprise, NO level of
    justification you or your ArtificialBrain come back with is of interest
    to anyone here or anywhere else you are banned from).

    Dear Tim

    My post was about the factual status of EtreCheckrCOs licensing, not about anyonerCOs personal life.

    ChatGPTrCOs claim that it was rCLopen sourcerCY was worth checking, and I provided a link so people could verify it for themselves.

    If you donrCOt value that kind of fact-checking, thatrCOs your choice rCo but some of us do, and I have confidence in ChatGPTrCOs ability to assist in it.

    Personal insults and attempts to shut down discussion donrCOt change the
    facts.

    =

    Email correspondence on 16 December 2014 (Before Etresoft Inc was Incorporated!)

    =

    Hello again, John

    I noticed that you had made yet another revision to your software, so I decided to 'give it a whirl' so to speak!

    I'm not sure what you have done, but I've now got LOTS of red showing
    AND a new word too - "Killed"

    I've attached the scan result just for your general interest.

    I'm now going to restart my machine in 'safe' mode and then back to
    normal again - to see if the red ink is removed!

    HTH

    David


    EtreCheck version: 2.1.3 (106)
    Report generated 16 December 2014 22:31:04 GMT

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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 19:20:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 12:34, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    My post was about the factual status of EtreCheckrCOs licensing, not about anyonerCOs personal life.

    Other than when you are interfering with peoples personal / financial lives.

    Why do think you have the right to harass these people so?

    You aren't the Police, you aren't a crusader sent by your god ... you
    are a nothing, a nobody, just a dangle-berry and hated by most,
    especially ALL the places you are banned from (and that#s pretty well everywhere you appear).

    You aren't banned because you are getting close to any 'truth', you are
    banned because you are JUST an annoying little prick.

    <snip the rest as it looks just like you (and your Artificial Brain) are having a stroke.

    GET HELP!

    Cheers, T i m
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 11:26:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    .

    snip the whole fk'in thing
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 20:15:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 19:20, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 12:34, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    My post was about the factual status of EtreCheckrCOs licensing, not about >> anyonerCOs personal life.

    Other than when you are interfering with peoples personal / financial
    lives.

    Why do think you have the right to harass these people so?

    You aren't the Police, you aren't a crusader sent by your god ... you
    are a nothing, a nobody, just a dangle-berry and hated by most,
    especially ALL the places you are banned from (and that#s pretty well everywhere you appear).

    You aren't banned because you are getting close to any 'truth', you are banned because you are JUST an annoying little prick.

    <snip the rest as it looks just like you (and your Artificial Brain) are having a stroke.

    GET HELP!


    Hi Tim,

    IrCOm not going to engage with personal remarks rCo they donrCOt help answer the original point.

    This thread was about a very specific, factual matter:

    EtreCheck is not open source today.

    The only public code is an old fork from when it was open source.

    That code does not prove what the current closed-source version does.

    If thererCOs reliable, independent verification of the current productrCOs behaviour, IrCOd welcome seeing it. ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users can make an informed decision.

    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    David B.
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 21:11:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters for harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    Cheers, T i m
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 13:15:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters for harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    Cheers, T i m

    what do you do with yours
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 21:30:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 21:11, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters for harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    *Still no evidence, Tim rCo just noise*!

    I guess you are still pissed-off with fact that I was 100% right - you
    could *NOT* repair a water pump for the narrowboat!
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Sun Aug 10 20:34:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Aug 10, 2025 at 4:30:14rC>PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    On 10/08/2025 21:11, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters for
    harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    *Still no evidence, Tim rCo just noise*!

    Says the person who is convinced that EtreCheck is "malware" WITH ZERO EVIDENCE. All we have is lots of noise from you.

    My irony detection meter just went off the scale.
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 08:18:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 21:34, Tyrone wrote:
    On Aug 10, 2025 at 4:30:14rC>PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    On 10/08/2025 21:11, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters for >>> harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    *Still no evidence, Tim rCo just noise*!

    Says the person who is convinced that EtreCheck is "malware" WITH ZERO EVIDENCE. All we have is lots of noise from you.

    My irony detection meter just went off the scale.

    *NOBODY* questioned the use of EtreCheck back in 2016!

    https://eclecticlight.co/2016/05/24/definitely-not-the-cat-the-sporadic-freezes-continue/

    I was fascinated by the tool when first I used it in 2014.

    Howard Oakley has never, as far as I'm aware, investigated the EtreCheck software itself - or its Developer. Do YOU know different?
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 08:46:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 10/08/2025 21:30, David B. wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 21:11, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters
    for harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    *Still no evidence, Tim rCo just noise*!

    Give me evidence re the existence of your god. You can't because it's
    fantasy, just like the *evidence* YOU have re EC.>
    I guess you are still pissed-off with fact that I was 100% right - you
    could *NOT* repair a water pump for the narrowboat!

    WTF are you going on about now (oh, I don't what to know as it's all
    BS)? Oh yes, more stuff you don't have a fucking clue about.

    Get help now, you are sick.

    Cheers, T i m



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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 08:52:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 08:18, David B. wrote:

    <snip>>
    Howard Oakley has never, as far as I'm aware, investigated the EtreCheck software itself - or its Developer. Do YOU know different?

    Where are you going to stop, given there can never be a satisfactory conclusion to this crusade?

    Will you simply move onto another random Dev / Co and start harassing them?

    I'm beginning to believe in your cancer giving god and that he is having
    a right laugh at your expense by putting you on this utterly pointless crusade. Wind up the freak and watch him go, well, till he is bound by a
    cease and desist order or imprisoned or more.

    Oh how he and we are laughing right in your face.

    Get help. you are SICK.

    Cheers, T i m



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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 09:22:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 08:46, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 21:30, David B. wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 21:11, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters
    for harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    *Still no evidence, Tim rCo just noise*!

    Give me evidence re the existence of your god. You can't because it's fantasy, just like the *evidence* YOU have re EC.>


    God made a covenant with David, promising that his kingdom would last
    forever. And yet after the reign of DavidrCOs son Solomon, the kingdom was divided, and within a few hundred years both the northern kingdom and
    the southern kingdom were destroyed (2 Kings 17 and 25).

    For those living in the generations of captivity that followed, GodrCOs promise to David must have seemed like a fairy tale. Their experience
    held no evidence of any great Israelite kingdom or king on the rise.
    Psalm 89, written during this time, begins with GodrCOs faithfulness but
    ends with the peoplerCOs troubles: rCLLord, where is your steadfast love of old, which by your faithfulness you swore to David? Remember, O Lord,
    how your servants are mocked, and how I bear in my heart the insults of
    all the many nationsrCY (Psalm 89:49-50). Speaking into that context of distress and hopelessness, the prophets reminded the people, Wait a
    minute! Though it doesnrCOt look like GodrCOs promise is still in effect,
    you can be sure it is, because of His covenant love. ThererCOs more to
    come. They spoke of the future:

    For to us a child is born,

    rCato us a son is given;

    and the government shall be upon his shoulder,

    rCaand his name shall be called

    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,

    rCaEverlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

    Of the increase of his government and of peace

    rCathere will be no end,

    on the throne of David and over his kingdom,

    rCato establish it and to uphold it

    with justice and with righteousness

    rCafrom this time forth and forevermore.

    The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this. (Isaiah 9:6-7)

    There was still, said the prophets, another place, another name, another
    rest, another kingdom, and another throne to come. The failures of GodrCOs people did not mean that God had forgotten His promise. It would all be fulfilled in Jesus.

    History repeats itself. Whether because of disease, persecution,
    politics or grief, we will at times find ourselves in that place of
    confusion that Psalm 89 gives voice to. In such a time (which is really
    any time before Jesus returns), we need prophetic voices to remind us of GodrCOs covenant faithfulnessrCothat our Lord reigns on His throne both now and forever. So today, take heart. Your failures do not mean that God
    has forgotten His promise. There is more to come.




    I guess you are still pissed-off with fact that I was 100% right - you
    could *NOT* repair a water pump for the narrowboat!

    WTF are you going on about now (oh, I don't what to know as it's all
    BS)? Oh yes, more stuff you don't have a fucking clue about.

    Thank you for confirming that you did, indeed, *FAIL* to repair a
    narrowboat water pump!

    I did tell you that it wasn't worth the effort to try! ;-)
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 09:30:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 08:52, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 08:18, David B. wrote:

    <snip>>
    Howard Oakley has never, as far as I'm aware, investigated the
    EtreCheck software itself - or its Developer. Do YOU know different?

    Where are you going to stop, given there can never be a satisfactory conclusion to this crusade?

    Will you simply move onto another random Dev / Co and start harassing them?

    No. There has never been a "*random* Dev / Co" - this was a specific
    target because he lied.
    I'm beginning to believe in your cancer giving god and that he is having
    a right laugh at your expense by putting you on this utterly pointless crusade. Wind up the freak and watch him go, well, till he is bound by a cease and desist order or imprisoned or more.

    Have you talked to John Daniel about this?
    Oh how he and we are laughing right in your face.

    Please bring yourself up-to-date by reading here:-

    https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/687438?login=true&page=1#853061022

    Enjoy your day!

    David
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 09:53:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 09:30, David B. wrote:

    No. There has never been a "*random* Dev / Co" - this was a specific
    target because he lied.

    'Lied' by your bizzare standards.

    <snip unread>

    You lie all the time as has been shown here over and over.

    You are sick, get help.

    Cheers, T i m
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 10:04:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 09:22, David B. wrote:

    <snip the bs / waffle unread>>>
    WTF are you going on about now (oh, I don't what to know as it's all
    BS)? Oh yes, more stuff you don't have a fucking clue about.

    Thank you for confirming that you did, indeed, *FAIL* to repair a
    narrowboat water pump!

    And that ladies and gentlemen is how this sick fuck can twist things to
    suit his own narrative.

    Someone states they 'reply personally to all support questions', the
    likes of this Brooks creep thinks that then means him so he pays for the software to only get a refund from the dev rather than the dev having to
    deal with the known creep!>
    I did tell you that it wasn't worth the effort to try! ;-)
    And how does that make you right?

    It was VERY easy to repair, it just wasn't worth the risk on financial
    and access / inconvenience grounds, IN THIS CASE, something you had no
    way to evaluate.

    Had it been my boat / pump I would likely had repaired it because repair
    it was easy and about 1/3rd of the cost of a new pump.

    What YOU tried to tell us is that you didn't need an accumulator and you
    were wrong, well, unless we wanted to work at whatever low standard your abilities mean you get used to and I hate to think how low they must be.

    Cheers, T i m




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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 10:05:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 09:53, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 09:30, David B. wrote:

    No. There has never been a "*random* Dev / Co" - this was a specific
    target because he lied.

    'Lied' by your bizzare standards.

    <snip unread>

    Here, then:- https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/etrecheck-says-sip-is-off-while-status-says-on-with-macbook-m1-anyone-know-if-this-is-normal.2415550/
    You lie all the time as has been shown here over and over.

    I don't lie - except whilst sleeping.
    You are sick, get help.

    *YOU* are the one who *IS* actually sick - and who will die soon enough. :-(

    Maybe YOU should seek help? Google for "Mary Baker Eddy"

    .

    .

    .

    .

    Or read here:- https://www.christianscience.com/what-is-christian-science/mary-baker-eddy
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 10:14:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 10:04, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 09:22, David B. wrote:

    <snip the bs / waffle unread>>>
    WTF are you going on about now (oh, I don't what to know as it's all
    BS)? Oh yes, more stuff you don't have a fucking clue about.

    Thank you for confirming that you did, indeed, *FAIL* to repair a
    narrowboat water pump!

    And that ladies and gentlemen is how this sick fuck can twist things to
    suit his own narrative.

    Let me remind folk that it is *YOU* who is sick. Get help!
    Someone states they 'reply personally to all support questions', the
    likes of this Brooks creep thinks that then means him so he pays for the software to only get a refund from the dev rather than the dev having to deal with the known creep!>
    I did tell you that it wasn't worth the effort to try! ;-)
    And how does that make you right?

    It was VERY easy to repair, it just wasn't worth the risk on financial
    and access / inconvenience grounds, IN THIS CASE, something you had no
    way to evaluate.

    Had it been my boat / pump I would likely had repaired it because repair
    it was easy and about 1/3rd of the cost of a new pump.

    What YOU tried to tell us is that you didn't need an accumulator and you were wrong, well, unless we wanted to work at whatever low standard your abilities mean you get used to and I hate to think how low they must be.

    I was *NOT* wrong - on a natrrowboat it is not NEEDed!

    https://forums.ybw.com/threads/do-i-need-an-accumulator-in-the-fresh-water-supply.508729/
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 11:02:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 10:05, David B. wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 09:53, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 09:30, David B. wrote:

    No. There has never been a "*random* Dev / Co" - this was a specific
    target because he lied.

    'Lied' by your bizzare standards.

    <snip unread>

    Here, then:- https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/etrecheck-says-sip-is- off-while-status-says-on-with-macbook-m1-anyone-know-if-this-is- normal.2415550/
    You lie all the time as has been shown here over and over.

    I don't lie -

    You do, here, all the time and have been pulled up by many here over it,
    many times.


    You are sick, get help.

    *YOU* are the one who *IS* actually sick - and who will die soon
    enough. :-(

    And that really shows just how sick (in the head) you really are.

    Cheers, T i m
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 11:26:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 10:14, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    And that ladies and gentlemen is how this sick fuck can twist things
    to suit his own narrative.

    Let me remind folk that it is *YOU* who is sick. Get help!

    Yeah, about the best you can come up with without yer Artificial Brain.
    No wonder you rely on it so much. Thick and a liar.

    <snip>

    What YOU tried to tell us is that you didn't need an accumulator and
    you were wrong, well, unless we wanted to work at whatever low
    standard your abilities mean you get used to and I hate to think how
    low they must be.

    I was *NOT* wrong - on a natrrowboat it is not NEEDed!

    Ok, I get how you think denying you are a sick liar make you think
    that's made is so but you are wrong. Enough people here and on every
    other forum your shit over knows what you are like. AKA, a sick fuck.


    https://forums.ybw.com/threads/do-i-need-an-accumulator-in-the-fresh- water-supply.508729/
    Brilliant, a thread that has as many people saying that an accumulator
    is needed (and why) as those who say they have 'managed' without ... and
    with no mention of what type of pumps are being used in each instance.

    So just as last time, here are the reasons why accumulators ARE fitted:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPI-uFlrFA

    Now, you might not be able to see that for all the tabs (you don't know
    how to close) for the forums you are banned from (for being an annoying
    little prick and a complete waste of bandwidth, even in these high
    bandwidth days!).

    And oh look, specifically regarding narrowboats:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pump+accumilator+narrowboat

    So, even when you have supposed to have lived on one, you know fuck all
    about them (probably an alcohol fed hallucination that's now turned real
    to you, like with the crusade you have been sent on that you are
    *COMPLETELY* unsuitable and unequipped for.

    Is there *ANYONE* here who hasn't questioned that and your 'detective'
    skills?

    Get help.



    Cheers, T i m

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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 11:44:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 11:26, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 10:14, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    And that ladies and gentlemen is how this sick fuck can twist things
    to suit his own narrative.

    Let me remind folk that it is *YOU* who is sick. Get help!

    Yeah, about the best you can come up with without yer Artificial Brain.
    No wonder you rely on it so much. Thick and a liar.

    I'm sorry that the truth hurt. :-(
    <snip>

    What YOU tried to tell us is that you didn't need an accumulator and
    you were wrong, well, unless we wanted to work at whatever low
    standard your abilities mean you get used to and I hate to think how
    low they must be.

    I was *NOT* wrong - on a natrrowboat it is not NEEDed!

    Ok, I get how you think denying you are a sick liar make you think
    that's made is so but you are wrong. Enough people here and on every
    other forum your shit over knows what you are like. AKA, a sick fuck.

    "Everyone is out of step except our Johnny"?

    https://forums.ybw.com/threads/do-i-need-an-accumulator-in-the-fresh-
    water-supply.508729/
    Brilliant, a thread that has as many people saying that an accumulator
    is needed (and why) as those who say they have 'managed' without ... and with no mention of what type of pumps are being used in each instance.

    So just as last time, here are the reasons why accumulators ARE fitted:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPI-uFlrFA

    Now, you might not be able to see that for all the tabs (you don't know
    how to close) for the forums you are banned from (for being an annoying little prick and a complete waste of bandwidth, even in these high
    bandwidth days!).

    And oh look, specifically regarding narrowboats:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pump+accumilator+narrowboat

    So, even when you have supposed to have lived on one, you know fuck all about them (probably an alcohol fed hallucination that's now turned real
    to you, like with the crusade you have been sent on that you are *COMPLETELY* unsuitable and unequipped for.

    I tried to *HELP* you based on my personal experience and the comments
    I'd picked up over more than thirty years of narrowboating.
    You simply failed to listen.
    Is there *ANYONE* here who hasn't questioned that and your 'detective' skills?

    Yes.
    --
    David
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  • From T i m@eternal@spaced.me.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 12:27:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 11:44, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    Let me remind folk that it is *YOU* who is sick. Get help!

    Yeah, about the best you can come up with without yer Artificial
    Brain. No wonder you rely on it so much. Thick and a liar.

    I'm sorry that the truth hurt. :-(

    Bwhahaha. Seem just because you say something doesn't mean it cxounters
    the actual truth, further demonstrating how sick you are to assume
    otherwise.

    <snip>>
    "Everyone is out of step except our Johnny"?

    That's what you are trying to determine with your 'detective' skills and
    have so far failed miserably. The efforts to do so have you flagged as
    stupid troll to be ignore everywhere. Well done you, good to see just
    how much support your fantastic crusade is getting.>

    <snip>

    So, even when you have supposed to have lived on one, you know fuck
    all about them (probably an alcohol fed hallucination that's now
    turned real to you, like with the crusade you have been sent on that
    you are *COMPLETELY* unsuitable and unequipped for.

    I tried to *HELP* you based on my personal experience and the comments
    I'd picked up over more than thirty years of narrowboating.

    And failed because you simply don't have the skillset.

    You simply failed to listen.

    And you do have the arrogance and FALSE sense of entitlement.

    No one has any obligation to listen to you and most don't by banning
    your BS.

    Is there *ANYONE* here who hasn't questioned that and your 'detective'
    skills?

    Yes.

    Ah yes, you 'Bulgarian buddy' and how many others, compared with all
    those on the forums you are now banned from because you are just a waste
    of time?

    Cheers, T i m
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 13:11:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 12:27, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 11:44, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    Let me remind folk that it is *YOU* who is sick. Get help!

    Yeah, about the best you can come up with without yer Artificial
    Brain. No wonder you rely on it so much. Thick and a liar.

    I'm sorry that the truth hurt. :-(

    Bwhahaha. Seem just because you say something doesn't mean it cxounters
    the actual truth, further demonstrating how sick you are to assume otherwise.

    <snip>>
    "Everyone is out of step except our Johnny"?

    That's what you are trying to determine with your 'detective' skills and have so far failed miserably. The efforts to do so have you flagged as stupid troll to be ignore everywhere. Well done you, good to see just
    how much support your fantastic crusade is getting.>

    <snip>

    So, even when you have supposed to have lived on one, you know fuck
    all about them (probably an alcohol fed hallucination that's now
    turned real to you, like with the crusade you have been sent on that
    you are *COMPLETELY* unsuitable and unequipped for.

    I tried to *HELP* you based on my personal experience and the comments
    I'd picked up over more than thirty years of narrowboating.

    And failed because you simply don't have the skillset.

    You simply failed to listen.

    And you do have the arrogance and FALSE sense of entitlement.

    No one has any obligation to listen to you and most don't by banning
    your BS.

    Is there *ANYONE* here who hasn't questioned that and your
    'detective' skills?

    Yes.

    Ah yes, you 'Bulgarian buddy' and how many others, compared with all
    those on the forums you are now banned from because you are just a waste
    of time?

    T i m,

    Your personal attacks add nothing to the technical discussion at hand.
    If you want to debate EtreCheckrCOs security and trustworthiness, please
    stick to facts and evidence rather than insults and ad hominem.

    My original point remains:

    Is there an independent, up-to-date analysis of the current EtreCheck build?

    If you have such evidence, please share it. If not, then endless insults donrCOt contribute to the conversation.
    --
    David B.
    I've NEVER had a "Bulgarian buddy"!
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  • From David B.@BD@hotmail.co.uk to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 13:15:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 11/08/2025 11:02, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 10:05, David B. wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 09:53, T i m wrote:
    On 11/08/2025 09:30, David B. wrote:

    No. There has never been a "*random* Dev / Co" - this was a specific
    target because he lied.

    'Lied' by your bizzare standards.

    <snip unread>

    Here, then:- https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/etrecheck-says-sip-
    is- off-while-status-says-on-with-macbook-m1-anyone-know-if-this-is-
    normal.2415550/
    You lie all the time as has been shown here over and over.

    I don't lie -

    You do, here, all the time and have been pulled up by many here over it, many times.

    That's simply untrue.
    You are sick, get help.

    *YOU* are the one who *IS* actually sick - and who will die soon
    enough. :-(

    And that really shows just how sick (in the head) you really are.

    Not so. At least you once *CLAIMED* that you had cancer - a cancer that
    kills.
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 17:05:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Aug 11, 2025 at 3:18:44rC>AM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    On 10/08/2025 21:34, Tyrone wrote:
    On Aug 10, 2025 at 4:30:14rC>PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
    On 10/08/2025 21:11, T i m wrote:
    On 10/08/2025 20:15, David B. wrote:

    <snip>

    ThatrCOs the only way cautious Mac users
    can make an informed decision.

    Morons like you only using their 'computers' as electric typewriters for >>>> harassing devs you mean.


    If you have information on that, IrCOm listening.

    Bwhahaha. You aren't interested in anything but your own pointless
    crusade you saddo.

    *Still no evidence, Tim rCo just noise*!

    Says the person who is convinced that EtreCheck is "malware" WITH ZERO
    EVIDENCE. All we have is lots of noise from you.

    My irony detection meter just went off the scale.

    *NOBODY* questioned the use of EtreCheck back in 2016!

    And? NOBODY but you are questioning it now.

    https://eclecticlight.co/2016/05/24/definitely-not-the-cat-the-sporadic-freezes-continue/

    I was fascinated by the tool when first I used it in 2014.

    Howard Oakley has never, as far as I'm aware, investigated the EtreCheck software itself - or its Developer. Do YOU know different?

    So? Maybe - since he is a Mac software developer - he does not see a need to "investigate" (AKA stalk/harrass/libel/slander) the software or the author.
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 17:21:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    On Aug 11, 2025 at 8:11:59rC>AM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    My original point remains:

    Is there an independent, up-to-date analysis of the current EtreCheck build?

    Your "original point" is pointless.

    Is there an independent, up-to-date analysis of the current build of ANY software you use daily? Why are you SO OBSESSED with EtreCheck?

    What about ClamXAV? Shouldn't you be yapping about that one too?

    What about Thunderbird? MacOS? Safari?

    And what if there WAS an independent, up-to-date analysis of the current build of EtreCheck? Would you believe it? Or would you assume that whoever did the "analysis" was also "in on the scam"?
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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac on Mon Aug 11 21:26:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.comp.sys.mac

    "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfu50fF6pb3U1@mid.individual.net Mon,
    11 Aug 2025 12:11:59 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:


    T i m,

    Your personal attacks add nothing to the technical discussion at hand.
    If you want to debate EtreCheckrCOs security and trustworthiness, please stick to facts and evidence rather than insults and ad hominem.

    Tim isn't the person to be asking for anything to do with code. FFS, Apd had to help him with what I called crayon level stuff. Tim didn't get the
    comment; so FTR explained it in a very amusing manner and agreed with my synopsis of the difficulty level in what Tim was asking help with. Tim is a near useless fuckhead who continues to try and troll Mike E with 'you should be a vegan like me, save the planet like I do". Just ignore the fact Tim has been welding off and on for 50 years now; that was great for the environment, no question. You can read sarcasm right David? I'd hate for snit to 'quote
    me' and not realize I was being very sarcastic as I wrote that. Snit gets easily confused enough as it is with what I write.

    And! More recently (lol), Tim was pleased to tell me that the majority of
    your cars have switched over from diesel and petrol to electric! Another win for the environment; said nobody with a fucking clue. You are quite a hypocrite yourself, David.. But, after learning those things about Tim, It's much more difficult to read his 'save the planet' posts without laughing.
    FFS, the pollution that dude created with welding alone should give him the title of super fucking hypocrite. And I'm not even factoring in the power supply to run his welder(s); I seriously doubt all of the power sources he made use of was considered a green source of energy. And that's just one
    hobby or skill he's got that I'm aware of that is by no means planet
    friendly.

    You are a fuckup. 100% a fuckup. The three of you together make for a merry crew of fuckups and people users. Even if the person(s) being used are okay with it, it doesn't detract in the slightest what you're doing. *using* them.

    My original point remains:

    Chatgpt assisted post? Why do you work so hard to emulate Snit, David?

    Is there an independent, up-to-date analysis of the current EtreCheck
    build?

    Are you pretending that you and I didn't recently discuss this? The build I disected for the 2nd time was current at the time I made that post, and, it wasn't very long ago.

    If you have such evidence, please share it.

    Stop jerking people around, David. I've disected that program two times now.
    I won't do it for a 3rd time. And, as a result of you playing stupid with chatgpt responses; I won't bother to disect other software you develop a
    hinky about; because, I'm obviously wasting my time doing so. How do I know this? Your reply here tells me. It's in one ear and right out the other.
    It's so bad, you don't recall having already been told it's clean (again).

    Did you also forget that you tried to change the subject after my analysis into 'how do you know once it's installed that it doesn't download malware onto your machine?' - Remember now? I went further and asked why you didn't apply this same 'standard' to other companies who's products also update via the internet. Do you remember your answer to that question? I do. You
    admitted it was because the author wouldn't interact with you directly. I can't blame them for making that decision.

    I went the opposite route with you, and, that wasn't a good idea on my part.
    I should have treated you just as he has the moment you went outside the
    lines of BugHunter support. but, I humoured you instead. Again, a bad
    decision in hindsight on my part. Had I told you to get fucked early on, or just ignored you, you probably wouldn't have continued with your nonsense towards me, and perhaps (although very unlikely) wouldn't have felt it necessary to try and dox me all over usenet to get my attention.

    For future reference David, that route won't ever get you the help you were demanding. And you had no right to be demanding anything of me, I didn't owe you anything. I answered your questions and was as honest as one could possibly be with your questions. You amply showed how much you respected my honesty too, David. You still remind me that it was a mistake not telling
    you to fuck off early on.
    --
    I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.


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