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Bruce wrote:

On 05/08/2025 20:33, Another John wrote:

On firing up, Mail froze! THEN I noticed that the Activity window is
saying
"Downloading 1,215 messages" - so it's not frozen, it's furiously
downloading
I know not what.-a 1,215 messages from where?!?!?

It might just be the email headers, not the whole message.

This may depend on whether you are using POP3 or SMTP.

If POP3 - and you have the account on two separate machines - then you
must make an explicit choice about what to do with downloaded emails.
I'm not familiar with Apple email clients so this might not be easy.

In principle you can accept the default which is to delete every email
from the server immediately it has been downloaded. Perversely this
usually works by downloading al the emails, then going back and deleting
them all - so if for any reason the download of ALL new emails fails
then it might start again - and get stuck. But this won't work across
two computers.

Given that you use two computers, you probably have set one or both to
retain emails on the server for some chosen period of time. So the
server could be full.

If IMAP - unless you explicitly choose to delete emails the server will
fill up. This usually requires two steps: mark for deletion, then
purge. If the synchronisation between a mail client and the server
fails in some way, then the whole process might start again, checking
(and perhaps downloading) all the messages that are on the server.
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Another John wrote:

On 5 Aug 2025 at 20:33:19 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

I've been having Mail problems for over two weeks now. Still looking for help
...

The symptom is that I cannot send emails (I receive emails OK). There seems to
be a mistmatch between Mail and Gail (my email server). I click the Send icon,
it greys out, and hangs there doing nothing. I'm using it on a 2019 iMac,
under Sequoia 15.5. [blah blah ad nauseam]

Replying to myself, simply to say: the problems now seem to have rCLgone awayrCY.

Do you mean Gmail? I can't find a mail service called Gail

[snip tale of woe]

Have you thought about buying an email service and domain name from a competent supplier? Specifically a supplier who knows how to configure
the Mail app on Sequoia 15.5 ? I'm sure others here can recommend a
suitable organisation.

I think it is well known that messages from Gmail addresses are often
blocked as "pork luncheon meat".
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On 5 Aug 2025 at 20:33:19 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

I've been having Mail problems for over two weeks now. Still looking for help ...

The symptom is that I cannot send emails (I receive emails OK). There seems to
be a mistmatch between Mail and Gail (my email server). I click the Send icon,
it greys out, and hangs there doing nothing. I'm using it on a 2019 iMac, under Sequoia 15.5. [blah blah ad nauseam]

Replying to myself, simply to say: the problems now seem to have rCLgone awayrCY.

I use that expression because I cannot say that rCLI fixed itrCY -- because I do
not know what I might have done to fix it.
I spent over three weeks of floundering around in the impenetrable jungles of (a) Google and (b) Apple (who both seem to hold the view that the other does not exist, and therefore problems of interworking do not exist either).

I wonrCOt go into details - I havenrCOt the time, or (these days) the capacity to
remember! Several possible causes were suggested here, or uncovered by my "floundering around". I eventually tried all of those, so there may have been
a combined effect. I never found anything that could have been a _reason_ for this happening in the first place.


One thing I did discover, and this is bizarre: the specific symptom of the "Send" icon (paper plane) greying out.
Incredibly, it seems to send if (1) I click the Send icon AND THEN (2) if I position the cursor afte the last character in the message itself AND THEN (3) press Return. So far this has worked every time IrCOve tried it. (Almost as though clicking the icon is a mouse-button down, and pressing Return is a MB up.

I discovered this by getting to the end of my tether, and pressing the Return key fiercely several times, as one used to do (or still does) when any piece
of technology "wouldnrCOt workrCY. (You can imagine my face when - after three weeks - this actually sent a message.)

But (mostly) I don't even seem to have to do that, now.

Another John

PS I don't think much of Sequoia, and I'm tempted to think that 15.5 was at least in part responsible for the whole fiasco.
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