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Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and >> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as >> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a >> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and >>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as >>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a >>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and >>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as >>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a >>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and >>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have >>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are >> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting >>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't
do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to
getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and >>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have >>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are >> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...
On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and >>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting >>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have >>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't >>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to
getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are >> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files.
Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into
sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes.
For example: <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/>
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and >> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as >> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a >> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with other
things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAP
accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with otherIt's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded.
things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAPEr, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
email account.
On 05/08/2025 18:03, Chris wrote:
How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with otherIt's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded.
things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAPEr, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
email account.
Technically they're in your icloud.com email account which, of course,
is in iCloud.
Go into Notes -> Accounts and you'll see a list of your current email providers. Under the name of the account there is small text providing
more info.
For iCloud there's a ton of things e.g. Mail, Contacts, Calendars. For
other email providers it will just say Mail, Notes or Mail and Notes depending.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that >>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and >>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting >>>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine. >>>>>
In all other respects the ipad is great.
Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have >>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't >>>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to
getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
opening each time.
That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are >>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
So not a download lag.
Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files.
Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into
sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes.
For example:
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/>
That's a good find. I'll try that.
Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to multiple topics?
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to
multiple topics?
Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but IrCOve not checked that out personally.
<https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to >>> multiple topics?
Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but IrCOve not checked that >> out personally.
<https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview> >>
Does it do handwriting?
On 2025-08-09, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to >>>> multiple topics?
Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but IrCOve not checked that >>> out personally.
<https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview> >>>
Does it do handwriting?
Short answer: dunno.
But we found this on the user forum:
<https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/141176-ipad-and-writing-notes-by-hand/>
On 6 Aug 2025 at 00:10:21 BST, Bruce wrote:
On 05/08/2025 18:03, Chris wrote:
How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with otherIt's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded.
things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAPEr, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
email account.
Technically they're in your icloud.com email account which, of course,
is in iCloud.
Go into Notes -> Accounts and you'll see a list of your current email
providers. Under the name of the account there is small text providing
more info.
For iCloud there's a ton of things e.g. Mail, Contacts, Calendars. For
other email providers it will just say Mail, Notes or Mail and Notes
depending.
Here, it's showing iCloud associated with Notes. And a gmail account as my iCloud email.
IOW, it looks to me as though iCloud is something separate to email accounts.
Rather belatedly: Notes started as a thing that stored its data in IMAP,
but for many yeasrs now it's stored directly as a database in iCloud and synced with your local machine(s).
Since this is Apple and they give zero tools for troubleshooting, about
the only thing you can try is
* Move any local notes to iCloud
* check on icloud.com to be sure they're all up there
* disable iCloud sync for Notes on the troublesome client
* clear your local Notes entirely
* re-enable iCloud sync.
Same routine as most other iCloud hosted synced things.