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Apparently my GA-990X (see signature) has a TPM header.
According to various web pages you can but a hardware TPM module to plug
in and then pass the TPM test for a W11 upgrade.
Has anyone gone down this route and succeeded?
Cheers
Dave R
Has anyone gone down this route and succeeded?
Apparently my GA-990X (see signature) has a TPM header.
According to various web pages you can but a hardware TPM module to plug
in and then pass the TPM test for a W11 upgrade.
Has anyone gone down this route and succeeded?
Cheers
Dave R
Why? Use Rufus; it'll even download the ISO for you if you want.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:48:22 +0200, s|b wrote:
Why? Use Rufus; it'll even download the ISO for you if you want.
OK. I did this in the past and it was fine: W10 was upgraded to W11 and updates were installed.
Today, I tried this again and I got a warning that the hardware didn't support W11 (Rufus bypassed TPM and CPU requirements) AND that the
install wouldn't receive any updates.
Did something change?
For me, upgrading W10 to W11 and not receiving any updates isn't worth
it. Then I'd rather stay with W10.
On 23/07/2025 19:31, s|b wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:48:22 +0200, s|b wrote:
Why? Use Rufus; it'll even download the ISO for you if you want.
OK. I did this in the past and it was fine: W10 was upgraded to W11 and
updates were installed.
Today, I tried this again and I got a warning that the hardware didn't
support W11 (Rufus bypassed TPM and CPU requirements) AND that the
install wouldn't receive any updates.
Did something change?
Yes, Microsoft policy.
For me, upgrading W10 to W11 and not receiving any updates isn't worth
it. Then I'd rather stay with W10.
Damned if you do & damned if you don't.
Microsoft have already said Windows 10 won't get any updates after the
end of support on Oct.14, 2025.
Just one article of many (link may wrap)
-a- https://www.zdnet.com/article/cant-upgrade-your-windows-10-pc-you- have-5-options-and-3-months-to-act-before-eos/
On 22/07/2025 15:15, David wrote:
Apparently my GA-990X (see signature) has a TPM header.On my wife's GA mobo the TPM was there, but it needed to be enabled in
According to various web pages you can but a hardware TPM module to
plug in and then pass the TPM test for a W11 upgrade.
Has anyone gone down this route and succeeded?
Cheers
the board setup. I did that, and W11 installed itself seamlessly.
You can buy a TPM 2 module for around -u5, so it's hardly a huge expense.
Of course, you can work round it, but my worry is that 'something' will
go wrong because of the missing TPM and MS will say it's not their
problem to fix it.
So, in our household, machines that can be upgraded to W11 have been upgraded, and the rest will use the free extended security for W10.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:36:09 +0100, GB wrote:
On 22/07/2025 15:15, David wrote:
Apparently my GA-990X (see signature) has a TPM header.On my wife's GA mobo the TPM was there, but it needed to be enabled in
According to various web pages you can but a hardware TPM module to
plug in and then pass the TPM test for a W11 upgrade.
Has anyone gone down this route and succeeded?
Cheers
the board setup. I did that, and W11 installed itself seamlessly.
You can buy a TPM 2 module for around -u5, so it's hardly a huge
expense.
Of course, you can work round it, but my worry is that 'something' will
go wrong because of the missing TPM and MS will say it's not their
problem to fix it.
So, in our household, machines that can be upgraded to W11 have been
upgraded, and the rest will use the free extended security for W10.
The TPM modules on Amazon (for example) are generally a bit more than
that, and they all look suspiciously as if they came out of the same
Chinese factory.
I need to 20 pin not the 12 pin version.
Also reminding myself to check if the CPU is supported.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:48:22 +0200, s|b wrote:
Why? Use Rufus; it'll even download the ISO for you if you want.
OK. I did this in the past and it was fine: W10 was upgraded to W11 and updates were installed.
Today, I tried this again and I got a warning that the hardware didn't support W11 (Rufus bypassed TPM and CPU requirements) AND that the
install wouldn't receive any updates.
Did something change?
For me, upgrading W10 to W11 and not receiving any updates isn't worth
it. Then I'd rather stay with W10.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:31:45 +0200, s|b wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:48:22 +0200, s|b wrote:
Why? Use Rufus; it'll even download the ISO for you if you want.
OK. I did this in the past and it was fine: W10 was upgraded to W11 and updates were installed.
Today, I tried this again and I got a warning that the hardware didn't support W11 (Rufus bypassed TPM and CPU requirements) AND that the
install wouldn't receive any updates.
Did something change?
For me, upgrading W10 to W11 and not receiving any updates isn't worth
it. Then I'd rather stay with W10.
Any idea if it failed on the TPM, CPU or both?
No point in my chasing a hardware TPM module if the AMD FX-6300 is going
to be rejected anyway.
Microsoft have already said Windows 10 won't get any updates after the
end of support on Oct.14, 2025.
Any idea if it failed on the TPM, CPU or both?
That is simply wrong - at least for home users. MS now offers free
security upgrades on W10 until October 2026. I've already enrolled.
You can hear it from the horse's mouth:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-10-consumer-extended-security-updates-esu-program-33e17de9-36b3-43bb-874d-6c53d2e4bf42
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 11:26:25 +0100, GB wrote:
That is simply wrong - at least for home users. MS now offers free
security upgrades on W10 until October 2026. I've already enrolled.
You can hear it from the horse's mouth:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-10-consumer-extended-security-updates-esu-program-33e17de9-36b3-43bb-874d-6c53d2e4bf42
<quote>
Consumer ESU program cost
You can enroll in ESU by one of the following three ways:
- At no additional cost if you are syncing your PC Settings
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- One-time purchase of $30 USD or local currency equivalent plus applicable tax
All enrollment options provide extended security updates through October
13, 2026. You will need to sign into your Microsoft account in order to enroll in ESU. YourCOll be given these options to choose from when you
enroll in the ESU program. You can use your existing ESU license on up
to 10 devices.
</quote>
Why free if you're syncing your PC settings? What does M$ get out of
this?
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 11:26:25 +0100, GB wrote:
That is simply wrong - at least for home users. MS now offers free
security upgrades on W10 until October 2026. I've already enrolled.
You can hear it from the horse's mouth:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-10-consumer-extended-security-updates-esu-program-33e17de9-36b3-43bb-874d-6c53d2e4bf42
<quote>
Consumer ESU program cost
You can enroll in ESU by one of the following three ways:
- At no additional cost if you are syncing your PC Settings
- Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points
- One-time purchase of $30 USD or local currency equivalent plus applicable tax
All enrollment options provide extended security updates through October
13, 2026. You will need to sign into your Microsoft account in order to enroll in ESU. YourCOll be given these options to choose from when you
enroll in the ESU program. You can use your existing ESU license on up
to 10 devices.
</quote>
Why free if you're syncing your PC settings? What does M$ get out of
this?
Why free if you're syncing your PC settings? What does M$ get out of
this?
I don't think they get much at all, actually. I already sync my
settings, as it's useful, so I just clicked the button to join the ESU programme.
The alternative is 1000 Microsoft Rewards points, which aren't very
valuable at all. 8000 points buys a -u5 Amazon card, so 1000 points is
worth 60p. Points are easy to get just by using Bing as your search
engine, for example.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 11:55:34 +0100, GB wrote:
Why free if you're syncing your PC settings? What does M$ get out of
this?
I don't think they get much at all, actually. I already sync my
settings, as it's useful, so I just clicked the button to join the ESU
programme.
There's no such thing as 'free', so they must get something out of this.