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  • Experiment with synthetic self-assembling materials

    From Pro Plyd@invalid@invalid.invalid to talk-origins on Thu Jul 24 22:56:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins


    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/07/a-step-toward-solving-central-mystery-of-life-on-earth/

    It is the ultimate mystery of biology: How did
    life begin?

    A team of Harvard scientists has brought us
    closer to an answer by creating artificial
    cell-like chemical systems that simulate
    metabolism, reproduction, and evolution rCo the
    essential features of life. The results were
    published recently in the Proceedings of the
    National Academy of Sciences.

    rCLThis is the first time, as far as I know, that
    anybody has done anything like this rCo generate
    a structure that has the properties of life
    from something, which is completely homogeneous
    at the chemical level and devoid of any
    similarity to natural life,rCY said Juan
    P|-rez-Mercader, a senior research fellow in the
    Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences and
    the Origins of Life Initiative, the senior
    author of the study.
    ...


    https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2412514122
    Self-reproduction as an autonomous process
    of growth and reorganization in fully abiotic,
    artificial and synthetic cells

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  • From Dale@dalekellytoo@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Jul 25 02:50:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life


    consciousness ?
    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Jul 25 08:11:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/24/2025 11:56 PM, Pro Plyd wrote:

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/07/a-step-toward-solving- central-mystery-of-life-on-earth/

    It is the ultimate mystery of biology: How did
    life begin?

    A team of Harvard scientists has brought us
    closer to an answer by creating artificial
    cell-like chemical systems that simulate
    metabolism, reproduction, and evolution rCo the
    essential features of life. The results were
    published recently in the Proceedings of the
    National Academy of Sciences.

    rCLThis is the first time, as far as I know, that
    anybody has done anything like this rCo generate
    a structure that has the properties of life
    from something, which is completely homogeneous
    at the chemical level and devoid of any
    similarity to natural life,rCY said Juan
    P|-rez-Mercader, a senior research fellow in the
    Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences and
    the Origins of Life Initiative, the senior
    author of the study.
    ...


    https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2412514122
    Self-reproduction as an autonomous process
    of growth and reorganization in fully abiotic,
    artificial and synthetic cells


    The PNAS article is open access.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From Dale@dalekellytoo@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Jul 25 13:19:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life


    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other, perhaps
    not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?
    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Pro Plyd@invalide@invalid.invalid to talk-origins on Sat Jul 26 22:50:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?

    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other, perhaps
    not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?

    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.

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  • From Dale@dalekellytoo@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sun Jul 27 01:20:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?
    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sun Jul 27 08:28:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From Bob Casanova@nospam@buzz.off to talk-origins on Sun Jul 27 10:39:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 22:50:38 -0600, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by Pro Plyd
    <invalide@invalid.invalid>:

    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?

    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other, perhaps
    not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?

    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.

    Channeling Oddball the tank commander...

    "Again with the negative vibes, Moriarty!"

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@nospam@buzz.off to talk-origins on Sun Jul 27 10:40:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 08:28:38 -0500, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>:

    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    <Groan> Good one! ;-)

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Dale@dalekellytoo@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sun Jul 27 21:29:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/27/2025 9:28 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    Ron Okimoto



    is there a scientific definition for consciousness ?

    not just intelligence ?

    not just awareness ?

    not a computer ?

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html
    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Jul 28 07:23:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/27/2025 8:29 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 9:28 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    Ron Okimoto



    is there a scientific definition for consciousness ?

    not just intelligence ?

    not just awareness ?

    not a computer ?

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html


    You would know if you were capable of being conscious.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From Dale@dalekellytoo@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Jul 28 14:47:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/28/2025 8:23 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 8:29 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 9:28 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    Ron Okimoto



    is there a scientific definition for consciousness ?

    not just intelligence ?

    not just awareness ?

    not a computer ?

    https://www.dalekelly.org/om.html


    You would know if you were capable of being conscious.

    Ron Okimoto



    conscious of conscious ?

    conscious of conscious of conscious ?

    infinity ?

    still capable of digital programming ?
    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Jul 31 19:29:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 08:28:38 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    Ron Okimoto
    Don't they ride little motorcycles and wear funny hats in parades?
    --
    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Jul 31 21:12:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 7/31/2025 6:29 PM, jillery wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 08:28:38 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    Ron Okimoto


    Don't they ride little motorcycles and wear funny hats in parades?


    Shriners do often get elected, but according to Google:

    QUOTE:
    The "Shriner particle" is a misunderstanding; it refers to the artistic installation called "Particle Shrine". Particle Shrine is an immersive
    exhibit that transforms live cosmic ray data into a range of kinetic,
    audio, and visual outputs. It uses bespoke detectors and live data from
    the Super-Kamiokande neutrino observatory in Japan to make the invisible cosmic forces tangible
    END QUOTE:

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From Pro Plyd@invalide@invalid.invalid to talk-origins on Sun Aug 3 22:45:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    RonO wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:20 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/27/2025 12:50 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life

    consciousness ?

    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other,
    perhaps not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?



    As far as socializing is concerned, the neutrons are
    neutral on it whil the protons are for it and electrons
    are all against it.


    electrons elect protons or neutrons ?

    Neither, but Free Mesons are routinely elected.

    How elementary can you get?

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  • From IDentity@identity@invalid.org to talk-origins on Sat Aug 16 08:38:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 13:19:02 -0400, Dale <dalekellytoo@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 7/25/2025 2:50 AM, Dale wrote:
    On 7/25/2025 12:56 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:
    the
    essential features of life


    consciousness ?



    protons, neutrons, and electrons all socialize with each other, perhaps
    not in all in a positive way ? but aren't conscious ?

    "Mind and matter are inseparable, in the sense that everything is
    permeated with meaning. The whole idea of the somasignificant or
    signasomatic is that at no stage are mind and matter ever separated.
    There are different levels of mind. Even the electron is informed with
    a certain level of mind". - David Bohm, "Quantum Implications" p. 443

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