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On 7/26/2025 1:31 AM, Anthk NM wrote:
On 2025-07-22, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> wrote:
https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/green-creatures-the-intelligent-design-of-plants/
MarkE represents the ID perps ability to con the rubes with stupid
denial arguments. Plants are engineered and must have been designed.
MarkE exemplifies the stupidity of this type of ID scam con the rubes
argument.
Most of the creationist rubes that support the ID scam will never accept
how the designer designed plants on this planet. They are the result of
a very long evolutionary process. The rubes do not want the plants to
have been designed the way that they were designed.
Plants were not the first lifeforms created on this planet. The crop
plants described in the Bible did not evolve until long after
terrestrial vertebrates were wandering around on dry land. Land plants
would have been designed using algae adapted to fresh water lakes and
rivers, and would evolved hundreds of millions of years after sea
creatures already had existed. Angiosperm plants evolved less than 200
million years ago when dinos were becoming the rulers of the landscape,
and grasses around a hundred million years later.
The intelligent design science should be rejected by the majority of YEC
support for the ID scam. Nature isn't Biblical and any real science is
not going to support Biblical creationism.
Ron Okimoto
Given how humans build a waste zone near a recrational area, I find
that 'god designer' must have been a novice intern.
The designer is more of a tinkerer than a design engineer. What humans
are stuck with is actually an improvement over the original designs.
Egg laying mammals, birds, reptiles and amphibians only have one cloacal opening for pooping, urinating, and reproduction. The first bilateral
animal likely used the same single opening for ingestion, reproduction
and waste removal, but later protostomes and deuterostomes evolved to
make two openings. The initial embryo formed a blastopore. Protostomes likely took the best path and the blastopore that initially was a multi purpose opening evolved into the mouth, and the insides of the
protostomes developed towards the anus. So the rear end region evolved
last. For us deuterostomes we evolved literally ass backwards, so later reproductive organs had to evolve within the existing ass of the animal.
Placental mammals have somehow been able to separate the cloacal
opening in two, but urination is still coupled with the reproductive
opening. This just means that the designer has a little more work to
do, and isn't quite finished.
Ron Okimoto
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