• Increased flu related encephalopathy

    From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Sep 25 16:09:42 2025
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-vaccines-children-complication-cdc-deaths-rcna233436

    This article claims that there has been an increase in childhood flu
    related encephalopathy in the last 2 years. They cite 109 cases. It is
    rare for the flu virus to infect the brain, but it is how nearly all the
    cats infected with the dairy virus died. The dairy virus first infected
    their guts and moved into their brains. The cats ingested the dairy
    virus in their food or in raw milk. At least 2 human cases had gut
    infections (one California child and the two Missouri infected (one hospitalized and one a close contact living in the same home). None of
    those human cases had contact with dairy cattle, nor did they ingest unpasteurized dairy products, but they were still infected. None of
    them suffered encephalopathy, but they were given antivirals.

    They might want to check out these kids to see if they have H5
    antibodies. Infected dairy cattle continue to put infected milk into
    the food supply, and the FDA never completed the study that was supposed
    to check out the CDC's research indicating that the virus could survive
    the most common method of pasteurization.

    https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisories-safety-information/investigation-avian-influenza-h5n1-virus-dairy-cattle#research

    scroll down to the Silo Study 10/3/2024. The project was supposed to
    have been initiated, but they were asking for volunteers. No updates
    have ever been published. They knew that the virus might survive the
    most common method of pasteurization, but they never published any
    claims in support or denial of the CDC's finding.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/30/11/24-0772_article

    The CDC research article was published in the November issue, but it was available before the FDA claimed that they were going to start the Silo
    study. Asking for volunteer processing plants and dairies was stupid.
    They needed to go to the plants accepting contaminated milk and test
    them, but that never happened.

    The California child gut infection occurred after the CDC had published
    their pasteurization findings, but they never considered dairy products
    as the vector of infection. No dairy product tracing was attempted.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sat Sep 27 18:11:26 2025
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    On 9/25/2025 4:09 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-vaccines-children- complication-cdc-deaths-rcna233436

    This article claims that there has been an increase in childhood flu
    related encephalopathy in the last 2 years.-a They cite 109 cases.-a It is rare for the flu virus to infect the brain, but it is how nearly all the cats infected with the dairy virus died.-a The dairy virus first infected their guts and moved into their brains.-a The cats ingested the dairy
    virus in their food or in raw milk.-a At least 2 human cases had gut infections (one California child and the two Missouri infected (one hospitalized and one a close contact living in the same home).-a None of those human cases had contact with dairy cattle, nor did they ingest unpasteurized dairy products, but they were still infected.-a None of
    them suffered encephalopathy, but they were given antivirals.

    They might want to check out these kids to see if they have H5
    antibodies.-a Infected dairy cattle continue to put infected milk into
    the food supply, and the FDA never completed the study that was supposed
    to check out the CDC's research indicating that the virus could survive
    the most common method of pasteurization.

    https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisories-safety-information/ investigation-avian-influenza-h5n1-virus-dairy-cattle#research

    scroll down to the Silo Study 10/3/2024.-a The project was supposed to
    have been initiated, but they were asking for volunteers.-a No updates
    have ever been published.-a They knew that the virus might survive the
    most common method of pasteurization, but they never published any
    claims in support or denial of the CDC's finding.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/30/11/24-0772_article

    The CDC research article was published in the November issue, but it was available before the FDA claimed that they were going to start the Silo study.-a Asking for volunteer processing plants and dairies was stupid.
    They needed to go to the plants accepting contaminated milk and test
    them, but that never happened.

    The California child gut infection occurred after the CDC had published their pasteurization findings, but they never considered dairy products
    as the vector of infection.-a No dairy product tracing was attempted.

    Ron Okimoto


    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/los-angeles-cat-h5n1-deaths-prompt-new-warning-about-raw-pet-food

    California just had two more cases of cat infections. It is the dairy
    virus genotype B3.13, but they do not say what was contaminated in the
    pet food.

    QUOTE:
    veterinarians should strongly advise pet owners to not consume nor feed
    raw dairy, raw meat, raw poultry, and raw pet food diets to pets
    END QUOTE:

    They probably do not know what component of the food was infected. My
    guess is that the company was using dairy and culled dairy cattle as
    well as raw poultry in the food. The previous cases were likely due to contaminated turkey and chickens that had been infected, but the birds
    were processed before showing symptoms. It means that live virus is
    likely entering the human food chain, but no one should be eating raw
    poultry or culled dairy cattle (usually used for hamburger).

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sat Oct 4 12:29:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 9/27/2025 6:11 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 9/25/2025 4:09 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-vaccines-children-
    complication-cdc-deaths-rcna233436

    This article claims that there has been an increase in childhood flu
    related encephalopathy in the last 2 years.-a They cite 109 cases.-a It
    is rare for the flu virus to infect the brain, but it is how nearly
    all the cats infected with the dairy virus died.-a The dairy virus
    first infected their guts and moved into their brains.-a The cats
    ingested the dairy virus in their food or in raw milk.-a At least 2
    human cases had gut infections (one California child and the two
    Missouri infected (one hospitalized and one a close contact living in
    the same home).-a None of those human cases had contact with dairy
    cattle, nor did they ingest unpasteurized dairy products, but they
    were still infected.-a None of them suffered encephalopathy, but they
    were given antivirals.

    They might want to check out these kids to see if they have H5
    antibodies.-a Infected dairy cattle continue to put infected milk into
    the food supply, and the FDA never completed the study that was
    supposed to check out the CDC's research indicating that the virus
    could survive the most common method of pasteurization.

    https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisories-safety-information/
    investigation-avian-influenza-h5n1-virus-dairy-cattle#research

    scroll down to the Silo Study 10/3/2024.-a The project was supposed to
    have been initiated, but they were asking for volunteers.-a No updates
    have ever been published.-a They knew that the virus might survive the
    most common method of pasteurization, but they never published any
    claims in support or denial of the CDC's finding.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/30/11/24-0772_article

    The CDC research article was published in the November issue, but it
    was available before the FDA claimed that they were going to start the
    Silo study.-a Asking for volunteer processing plants and dairies was
    stupid. They needed to go to the plants accepting contaminated milk
    and test them, but that never happened.

    The California child gut infection occurred after the CDC had
    published their pasteurization findings, but they never considered
    dairy products as the vector of infection.-a No dairy product tracing
    was attempted.

    Ron Okimoto


    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/los-angeles-cat- h5n1-deaths-prompt-new-warning-about-raw-pet-food

    California just had two more cases of cat infections.-a It is the dairy virus genotype B3.13, but they do not say what was contaminated in the
    pet food.

    QUOTE:
    veterinarians should strongly advise pet owners to not consume nor feed
    raw dairy, raw meat, raw poultry, and raw pet food diets to pets
    END QUOTE:

    They probably do not know what component of the food was infected.-a My guess is that the company was using dairy and culled dairy cattle as
    well as raw poultry in the food.-a The previous cases were likely due to contaminated turkey and chickens that had been infected, but the birds
    were processed before showing symptoms.-a It means that live virus is
    likely entering the human food chain, but no one should be eating raw poultry or culled dairy cattle (usually used for hamburger).

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/h5n1-outbreaks-hit-more-commercial-poultry-3-states

    Poultry flocks have gone down in 3 more states, but they aren't
    releasing genotypes, so we can't determine how they are related to the
    current dairy and poultry epidemics. Iowa and Minnesota have had the
    dairy virus (genotype B3.13) infecting poultry and dairy cattle before,
    but Wisconsin has never tested positive for the dairy virus, though they
    have had poultry flocks and a farm worker go down with the D1.1 genotype
    that infected the Washington poultry workers and Nevada dairy worker and dairies as well as the Arizona dairies.

    Ron Okimoto

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