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https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-first-h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

The claim is that a Nebraska dairy herd has been infected by the
California strain of the dairy virus. For some stupid reason they are
not restricting dairy worker movements and the virus continues to
spread. The USDA is quarantining the herd, but the quarantine does not include restricting farm workers from working on other farms. It has
always only been a recommendation that farm workers working on infected
farms should not go to other farms, but the restriction is never
enforced. Because of this, just like in all the other states you can
expect more Nebraska herds in the same county to go down with the
infection. The virus got out of California somehow. Idaho was infected
with the Calfornia strain back in May, so the infection could have come
from Idaho. The USDA never does contact tracing and dairy worker
testing. They should do the epidemiological study with their sequences,
but that never happens.

The article notes that more poultry flocks are being infected. Farm
worker testing and contact tracing should be done in every case.

Ron Okimoto

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On 9/16/2025 8:04 AM, RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-first- h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

The claim is that a Nebraska dairy herd has been infected by the
California strain of the dairy virus.-a For some stupid reason they are
not restricting dairy worker movements and the virus continues to
spread.-a The USDA is quarantining the herd, but the quarantine does not include restricting farm workers from working on other farms.-a It has always only been a recommendation that farm workers working on infected farms should not go to other farms, but the restriction is never
enforced.-a Because of this, just like in all the other states you can expect more Nebraska herds in the same county to go down with the infection.-a The virus got out of California somehow.-a Idaho was infected with the Calfornia strain back in May, so the infection could have come
from Idaho.-a The USDA never does contact tracing and dairy worker testing.-a They should do the epidemiological study with their sequences, but that never happens.

The article notes that more poultry flocks are being infected.-a Farm
worker testing and contact tracing should be done in every case.

Ron Okimoto

It sounds like Nebraska was no longer participating in bulk milk tank
testing and the infected cattle were dected because the USDA requires
cattle to be tested before transport between states. This indicates
that Nebraska should do bulk milk tank testing and find all the infected dairies in the state. They should, at least, do contact tracing from
this dairy.

The USDA is still trying to blame migratory birds for the spread of the
dairy virus infection when they have to know by now that it is dairy
workers (including veterinarians that have been found to be infected)
and dairy cattle that spread the virus. Infected cattle transfer is prohibited, so most of the spread of the infection is likely due to
dairy workers. It is just politics that is keeping the CDC and USDA
from stopping the spread of the dairy virus.

Ron Okimoto


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On 9/17/2025 7:07 AM, RonO wrote:

On 9/16/2025 8:04 AM, RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-
first- h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

The claim is that a Nebraska dairy herd has been infected by the
California strain of the dairy virus.-a For some stupid reason they are
not restricting dairy worker movements and the virus continues to
spread.-a The USDA is quarantining the herd, but the quarantine does
not include restricting farm workers from working on other farms.-a It
has always only been a recommendation that farm workers working on
infected farms should not go to other farms, but the restriction is
never enforced.-a Because of this, just like in all the other states
you can expect more Nebraska herds in the same county to go down with
the infection.-a The virus got out of California somehow.-a Idaho was
infected with the Calfornia strain back in May, so the infection could
have come from Idaho.-a The USDA never does contact tracing and dairy
worker testing.-a They should do the epidemiological study with their
sequences, but that never happens.

The article notes that more poultry flocks are being infected.-a Farm
worker testing and contact tracing should be done in every case.

Ron Okimoto

It sounds like Nebraska was no longer participating in bulk milk tank testing and the infected cattle were dected because the USDA requires
cattle to be tested before transport between states.-a This indicates
that Nebraska should do bulk milk tank testing and find all the infected dairies in the state.-a They should, at least, do contact tracing from
this dairy.

The USDA is still trying to blame migratory birds for the spread of the dairy virus infection when they have to know by now that it is dairy
workers (including veterinarians that have been found to be infected)
and dairy cattle that spread the virus.-a Infected cattle transfer is prohibited, so most of the spread of the infection is likely due to
dairy workers.-a It is just politics that is keeping the CDC and USDA
from stopping the spread of the dairy virus.

Ron Okimoto

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/news/agency-announcements/usda-confirms-highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-dairy-herd-nebraska

I forgot the USDA link. They make some really stupid claims by this
late date.s Migratory birds are likely a dairies least worries. With
the states that have been reinfected in 2025, and the D1.1 dairy
infections in Nevada and Arizona the number of infected states in 2025
are probably about equal to the states infected in 2024, but they claim
"APHIS has seen cases in only a small number of states this year." They
are obviously counting new states infected and not states like Idaho, Colorado, Minnesota, California and Texas that have been reinfected.
For some reason they aren't counting herds that have been reinfected
after clearing the virus.

Ron Okimoto

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On 9/17/2025 1:57 PM, RonO wrote:

On 9/17/2025 7:07 AM, RonO wrote:

On 9/16/2025 8:04 AM, RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-
first- h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

The claim is that a Nebraska dairy herd has been infected by the
California strain of the dairy virus.-a For some stupid reason they
are not restricting dairy worker movements and the virus continues to
spread.-a The USDA is quarantining the herd, but the quarantine does
not include restricting farm workers from working on other farms.-a It
has always only been a recommendation that farm workers working on
infected farms should not go to other farms, but the restriction is
never enforced.-a Because of this, just like in all the other states
you can expect more Nebraska herds in the same county to go down with
the infection.-a The virus got out of California somehow.-a Idaho was
infected with the Calfornia strain back in May, so the infection
could have come from Idaho.-a The USDA never does contact tracing and
dairy worker testing.-a They should do the epidemiological study with
their sequences, but that never happens.

The article notes that more poultry flocks are being infected.-a Farm
worker testing and contact tracing should be done in every case.

Ron Okimoto

It sounds like Nebraska was no longer participating in bulk milk tank
testing and the infected cattle were dected because the USDA requires
cattle to be tested before transport between states.-a This indicates
that Nebraska should do bulk milk tank testing and find all the
infected dairies in the state.-a They should, at least, do contact
tracing from this dairy.

The USDA is still trying to blame migratory birds for the spread of
the dairy virus infection when they have to know by now that it is
dairy workers (including veterinarians that have been found to be
infected) and dairy cattle that spread the virus.-a Infected cattle
transfer is prohibited, so most of the spread of the infection is
likely due to dairy workers.-a It is just politics that is keeping the
CDC and USDA from stopping the spread of the dairy virus.

Ron Okimoto

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/news/agency-announcements/usda-confirms- highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-dairy-herd-nebraska

I forgot the USDA link.-a They make some really stupid claims by this
late date.s-a Migratory birds are likely a dairies least worries.-a With
the states that have been reinfected in 2025, and the D1.1 dairy
infections in Nevada and Arizona the number of infected states in 2025
are probably about equal to the states infected in 2024, but they claim "APHIS has seen cases in only a small number of states this year."-a They are obviously counting new states infected and not states like Idaho, Colorado, Minnesota, California and Texas that have been reinfected. For some reason they aren't counting herds that have been reinfected after clearing the virus.

Ron Okimoto

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/minnesota-reports-first-h5n1-detection-poultry-april

Minnesota has a turkey flock with H5N1. They should release the
genotype because Minnesota may be one of the states with reinfected
dairies. If it is the dairy virus they need to do the contact tracing
and track the virus back to the dairy that it came from. When Minnesota
was first infected with the dairy virus a number of turkey farms went
down. Minnesota has a lot of turkey farms.

Ron Okimoto

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RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-first-h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

Wait, the virus is infecting peccaries now?

The claim is that a Nebraska dairy herd has been infected by the
California strain of the dairy virus.-a For some stupid reason they are
not restricting dairy worker movements and the virus continues to
spread.-a The USDA is quarantining the herd, but the quarantine does not include restricting farm workers from working on other farms.-a It has always only been a recommendation that farm workers working on infected farms should not go to other farms, but the restriction is never
enforced.-a Because of this, just like in all the other states you can expect more Nebraska herds in the same county to go down with the infection.-a The virus got out of California somehow.-a Idaho was infected with the Calfornia strain back in May, so the infection could have come
from Idaho.-a The USDA never does contact tracing and dairy worker testing.-a They should do the epidemiological study with their sequences, but that never happens.

The article notes that more poultry flocks are being infected.-a Farm
worker testing and contact tracing should be done in every case.

Ron Okimoto

Oh. Never mind.

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Chris Thompson wrote:

RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-first-h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

Wait, the virus is infecting peccaries now?

Sigh. My brain inserted "man" after Nebraska in Ron's subject line.
Mea culpa.

Chris

The claim is that a Nebraska dairy herd has been infected by the
California strain of the dairy virus.-a For some stupid reason they are
not restricting dairy worker movements and the virus continues to
spread.-a The USDA is quarantining the herd, but the quarantine does
not include restricting farm workers from working on other farms.-a It
has always only been a recommendation that farm workers working on
infected farms should not go to other farms, but the restriction is
never enforced.-a Because of this, just like in all the other states
you can expect more Nebraska herds in the same county to go down with
the infection.-a The virus got out of California somehow.-a Idaho was
infected with the Calfornia strain back in May, so the infection could
have come from Idaho.-a The USDA never does contact tracing and dairy
worker testing.-a They should do the epidemiological study with their
sequences, but that never happens.

The article notes that more poultry flocks are being infected.-a Farm
worker testing and contact tracing should be done in every case.

Ron Okimoto

Oh. Never mind.

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 22:33:32 -0400, Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net> wrote:

Chris Thompson wrote:

RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-first-h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

Wait, the virus is infecting peccaries now?

Sigh. My brain inserted "man" after Nebraska in Ron's subject line.
Mea culpa.

Chris

Been there... done that... bought the shirt...
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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On 9/20/2025 11:04 PM, jillery wrote:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 22:33:32 -0400, Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net> wrote:

Chris Thompson wrote:

RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-confirms-first-h5n1-avian-flu-detection-nebraska-dairy-cows

Wait, the virus is infecting peccaries now?

Sigh. My brain inserted "man" after Nebraska in Ron's subject line.
Mea culpa.

Chris

Been there... done that... bought the shirt...

Nebraska man, another icon of creationist obfuscation and denial. How
long has it been since someone put that up on TO? It did not make it
into Wells' obfuscation and denial book because he probably couldn't
find it mentioned in any textbooks. Madman may have been the last of
that pathetic line of scientific creationists. Those posts are in
another thread. They have detected H5N1 on some pig farms, I do not
recall any peccaries being infected.

Ron Okimoto

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