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jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> posted:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in:
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177

We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.



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On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 07:53:19 GMT, "E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> posted:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in:
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177

We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.

Even assuming all that you say above is true, it still doesn't explain
why you don't post a video of a working device lifting one kilo one
meter for one minute.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 23:57:31 -0400, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 07:53:19 GMT, "E.Laureti" ><user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> posted:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in:
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177

We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.

Even assuming all that you say above is true, it still doesn't explain
why you don't post a video of a working device lifting one kilo one
meter for one minute.

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

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Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

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Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

ROFL.

Naw... too easy.

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Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

ROFL.

Naw... too easy.

ies Von Ottone, Rufus is an idiot troll


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On Aug 20, 2025, Rufus Ruffian wrote
(in article<f36cak1bjjn47a1curfrdq5rmsagdjco35@4ax.com>):

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184 grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

ROFL.

Naw... too easy.

herCOsgot absolutely no bloody clue.

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On Aug 20, 2025, Rufus Ruffian wrote
(in article<0p4cakhpp5b6k8rf1du7idncuii30lapgd@4ax.com>):

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

you noticed that too, eh? mrCOman has obviously never heard of the SI units.

Hint: rCykilogramme' is the SI unit of rCymassrCO. One gramme is one thousandth of a kilogramme. It is not a unit of force. The SI unit of force
is a rCyderived unitrCO, a unit derived from one or more standard unit(s). Pros use the derived unit; amateurs and idiots use wrong units. Guess which I think applies to mrCOman.

I first encountered the SI units in high school, a very long time ago.

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On Aug 20, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
(in article<oa5caklvet0hlu6ji3s3bhu3oi4ccnsdb7@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian<ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

Oh, my...

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:55:58 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>:

On Aug 20, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
(in article<oa5caklvet0hlu6ji3s3bhu3oi4ccnsdb7@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian<ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

Oh, my...

Ask him about time; he probably made the Kessel Run in less
than 12 parsecs. :-0

--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 20:41:27 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:55:58 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>:

On Aug 20, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
(in article<oa5caklvet0hlu6ji3s3bhu3oi4ccnsdb7@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian<ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

Oh, my...

Ask him about time; he probably made the Kessel Run in less
than 12 parsecs. :-0

I am not Ian Solo ...

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