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Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

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On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05"
Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of
letters and digits chosen?

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05"
Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of >letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

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On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05"
Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of
letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year? Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

According to the video description, the prototype being
shown was the first prototype, not the fifth.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:39:38 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05" >>> Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of
letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year? Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

According to the video description, the prototype being
shown was the first prototype, not the fifth.

Ask Laureti.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:39:38 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05" >>> Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of
letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year? Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

According to the video description, the prototype being
shown was the first prototype, not the fifth.

You can contact E.Laureti at asps@asps.it

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On 8/17/25 15:45, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:39:38 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05" >>>> Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of >>>> letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year? Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

According to the video description, the prototype being
shown was the first prototype, not the fifth.

Ask Laureti.

No. I prefer to limit the number of wannabe scientific revolutionaries
I interact with to one at a time.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:59:12 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 15:45, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:39:38 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> >>>> wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05" >>>>> Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of >>>>> letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year? Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

According to the video description, the prototype being
shown was the first prototype, not the fifth.

Ask Laureti.

No. I prefer to limit the number of wannabe scientific revolutionaries
I interact with to one at a time.

So you pretended to be interested just to get me talking.
I'll leave the ball to E. Laureti.

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On 8/17/25 16:03, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:59:12 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 15:45, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:39:38 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> >>>>> wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05" >>>>>> Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05? How was that sequence of >>>>>> letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year? Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

According to the video description, the prototype being
shown was the first prototype, not the fifth.

Ask Laureti.

No. I prefer to limit the number of wannabe scientific revolutionaries
I interact with to one at a time.

So you pretended to be interested just to get me talking.
I'll leave the ball to E. Laureti.

I meant my original comment to be seen by people other than you,
would find it interesting that a device presented in 1998 had a
prototype name containing a representation of a date that was 7
years in the future. And for them perhaps to be amused by your
failed attempt to rationalize this.

Attention is a valuable resource. I've given you enough of mine.

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On 2025-08-17 13:39, David Canzi wrote:

On 8/17/25 14:53, Von Ottone wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:21:19 -0400, David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

On 8/17/25 13:13, Von Ottone wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

30 seconds into the second video the screen displays "prototipo P26MR05" >>> Why was the prototype given the name P25MR05?-a How was that sequence of >>> letters and digits chosen?

Prototype 26 March n. 5

Why would the prototype name contain a month and day but
not a year?-a Fundamentally revolutionizing physics is a
multi-year project.

Clearly they have also perfected time travel. The prototype is from
March 5, 2026.

Andr|-
--
To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail
service.

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My memory was failing, the presentation is from 2005, and the
prototypre name P26MR05 means Prototype 26 March 2005.



On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 23:43:38 -0400, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

You have not even watched it...

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jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> posted:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in:
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177

We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.



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On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 07:53:19 GMT, "E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> posted:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in:
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177

We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.

Even assuming all that you say above is true, it still doesn't explain
why you don't post a video of a working device lifting one kilo one
meter for one minute.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 23:57:31 -0400, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 07:53:19 GMT, "E.Laureti" ><user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> posted:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 19:13:40 +0200, Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

Your behavior is very annoying, but I will make an exception.

Here we presented our first prototype to the Italian Army.

Preamble:
https://youtu.be/1YCFBIlPPVU

Presentation:
https://youtu.be/cnB0ZhyPvAQ

It should surprise nobody that the above videos don't even try to show
an operating device.

We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in:
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177

We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.

Even assuming all that you say above is true, it still doesn't explain
why you don't post a video of a working device lifting one kilo one
meter for one minute.

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

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Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

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Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

ROFL.

Naw... too easy.

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Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

ROFL.

Naw... too easy.

ies Von Ottone, Rufus is an idiot troll


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On Aug 20, 2025, Rufus Ruffian wrote
(in article<f36cak1bjjn47a1curfrdq5rmsagdjco35@4ax.com>):

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184 grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

ROFL.

Naw... too easy.

herCOsgot absolutely no bloody clue.

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On Aug 20, 2025, Rufus Ruffian wrote
(in article<0p4cakhpp5b6k8rf1du7idncuii30lapgd@4ax.com>):

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

you noticed that too, eh? mrCOman has obviously never heard of the SI units.

Hint: rCykilogramme' is the SI unit of rCymassrCO. One gramme is one thousandth of a kilogramme. It is not a unit of force. The SI unit of force
is a rCyderived unitrCO, a unit derived from one or more standard unit(s). Pros use the derived unit; amateurs and idiots use wrong units. Guess which I think applies to mrCOman.

I first encountered the SI units in high school, a very long time ago.

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On Aug 20, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
(in article<oa5caklvet0hlu6ji3s3bhu3oi4ccnsdb7@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian<ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

Oh, my...

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:55:58 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>:

On Aug 20, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
(in article<oa5caklvet0hlu6ji3s3bhu3oi4ccnsdb7@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian<ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

Oh, my...

Ask him about time; he probably made the Kessel Run in less
than 12 parsecs. :-0

--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 20:41:27 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 16:55:58 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>:

On Aug 20, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
(in article<oa5caklvet0hlu6ji3s3bhu3oi4ccnsdb7@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 11:28:19 -0700, Rufus Ruffian<ru@ru.ru> wrote:

Von Ottone <pnn@pnn.org> wrote:

I will explain that to you.

We are working on the device to achieve lifoff, for now we have 184
grams of thrust.

A scientist who measures force in grams?!?

Of course.

But how do YOU measure force? in liters???

Oh, my...

Ask him about time; he probably made the Kessel Run in less
than 12 parsecs. :-0

I am not Ian Solo ...

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