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After the payment of
E.Laureti wrote:
After the payment of
Ideally, a newsgroup moderator could weed out commercial spam like this.
Restricted to the real world, we can still rebuke the offender:
......BAAAAAAAAD SPAMMER!!!
PNN IS A SCAM!
You'll never see that one again.
we can show experiments,
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
see the facts--
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
:-)
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
see the facts
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
:-)
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
see the facts
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
:-)
E.Laureti wrote:
After the payment of
Ideally, a newsgroup moderator could weed out commercial spam like this.
Restricted to the real world, we can still rebuke the offender:
......BAAAAAAAAD SPAMMER!!!
PNN IS A SCAM!
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
You'll never see that one again.
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
After the payment of
Ideally, a newsgroup moderator could weed out commercial spam like this.
Restricted to the real world, we can still rebuke the offender:
......BAAAAAAAAD SPAMMER!!!
PNN IS A SCAM!
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> posted:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
Since the time of Apollo 11 (more than half a century ago), rockets
have been continuously proposing to colonize at least the Moon.
A serious person should understand why they still fail to do so.
The limits are written in the thermodynamics of rockets, and
it is explained here https://propulsion-revolution.com.
It is comical and rather tragic that they insist on not understanding
that a means of colonization (like Columbus's caravels) must start
and return whole and not with about 0.3% of the starting mass.
Unfortunately, those who criticize the PNN should know
that others, and not the Asps, have stated that with
the Lorentz force applied to open circuits,
Newton's third law can be circumvented.
I apologize, but I continually find myself fighting with my association
against a bunch of fools who do not even want to replicate elementary experiments that contradict them.
You'll never see that one again.
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> posted:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
Since the time of Apollo 11 (more than half a century ago), rockets
have been continuously proposing to colonize at least the Moon.
A serious person should understand why they still fail to do so.
The limits are written in the thermodynamics of rockets, and
it is explained here https://propulsion-revolution.com.
It is comical and rather tragic that they insist on not understanding
that a means of colonization (like Columbus's caravels) must start
and return whole and not with about 0.3% of the starting mass.
Unfortunately, those who criticize the PNN should know
that others, and not the Asps, have stated that with
the Lorentz force applied to open circuits,
Newton's third law can be circumvented.
I apologize, but I continually find myself fighting with my association against a bunch of fools who do not even want to replicate elementary
experiments that contradict them.
Namaste
--
see the facts
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
:-)
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
After the payment of
Ideally, a newsgroup moderator could weed out commercial spam like this.
Restricted to the real world, we can still rebuke the offender:
......BAAAAAAAAD SPAMMER!!!
PNN IS A SCAM!
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> posted:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:26:29 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> posted:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
it is a simple experiment that show the possibility
to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics
(That Newton did not know)
Do it by yourself :-)
becouse rocketry it is a comic scam
orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and
the edge of the solar system.
Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So
which is the "comic scam"?
Since the time of Apollo 11 (more than half a century ago), rockets
have been continuously proposing to colonize at least the Moon.
A serious person should understand why they still fail to do so.
The limits are written in the thermodynamics of rockets, and
it is explained here https://propulsion-revolution.com.
It is comical and rather tragic that they insist on not understanding
that a means of colonization (like Columbus's caravels) must start
and return whole and not with about 0.3% of the starting mass. Unfortunately, those who criticize the PNN should know
that others, and not the Asps, have stated that with
the Lorentz force applied to open circuits,
Newton's third law can be circumvented.
I apologize, but I continually find myself fighting with my association against a bunch of fools who do not even want to replicate elementary
experiments that contradict them.
When you have a successful experiment (one which
demonstrates working hardware, not a "simple experiment that
show the possibility", but a functional unit which reaches
at least 10 km in altitude), then you might get some
positive attention. Until then, it's all smoke and mirrors
and "this should work". "Shoulda, woulda, coulda"; the proof
is in the working demonstration. Until them, I'm outta here.
And FYI, this is off-topic in this newsgroup.
Namaste
see the facts
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
:-)
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
Very casual inspection of your above description immediately raises questions:
1. You are feeding the dipoles with 432 mhz *ac*. The positive
half-cycle will produce a (alleged) v X B force in one direction, the negative half-cycle produces a force in the opposite direction. The alternating forces cancel each other out. Zero net force is produced
beyond the nanosecond scale. What am I missing here?
2. Is the magnetic field entirely from the ferrite devices? If so, then
any "force" [TINF] would be exerted between the dipole and the ferrites.
It doesn't act externally as "propulsion" would.
3. You are trying to feed dipoles from an unbalanced signal from a coax? Seriously? Dude, the outer conductor of the coax is *ground*. You need a balun to transform your unbalanced signal from the coax into a balanced signal to feed the dipole. Otherwise you have fields you haven't characterized. And what's with the "Litz wire" transforming to lower impedance? What's its characteristic impedance? You need a smith chart
plot of what it's supposed to be transforming.
Even if force is produced, there is no apparent violation of Newton's
laws so far. The fact that you have only measured negligible force,
probably due to experimental error, is consistent with that.
I could see some limited possibility in using electromagnets (not
Lorentz forces) to push against the sun's magnetic field. It would have limited directional capability, and it's surely been thought of before.
I only spent a half hour reading your description, and that was
generous. If you have anything coherent to add, which is not more
commercial spam, which i doubt you do, then do so.
In the decades you've been working on your idea, you could have taken
some time to get some schooling in basic electric engineering.
It's likely you are only looking for a sponsor with more cash than
sense, so you can baffle him with bullshit and laugh your way to the
bank. That's also frowned upon on Usenet. Can't wish you luck with that.
(snip more misattributed blather)
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
Very casual inspection of your above description immediately raises questions:
1. You are feeding the dipoles with 432 mhz *ac*. The positive
half-cycle will produce a (alleged) v X B force in one direction, the negative half-cycle produces a force in the opposite direction. The alternating forces cancel each other out. Zero net force is produced
beyond the nanosecond scale. What am I missing here?
The configuration of the currents in the two semicircuits is this:
Fig. 2 and Fig. 3
in https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
And the force between the two arms is variable but is always repulsive and you must experiment
to clear your doubts.
Here, in addition to other information, is a guide to the equipment to use http://www.asps.it/paper16.pdf
2. Is the magnetic field entirely from the ferrite devices? If so, then
any "force" [TINF] would be exerted between the dipole and the ferrites.
It doesn't act externally as "propulsion" would.
As I have already said, with good experimentation and patience,
doubts will be resolved
3. You are trying to feed dipoles from an unbalanced signal from a coax? Seriously? Dude, the outer conductor of the coax is *ground*. You need a balun to transform your unbalanced signal from the coax into a balanced signal to feed the dipole. Otherwise you have fields you haven't characterized. And what's with the "Litz wire" transforming to lower impedance? What's its characteristic impedance? You need a smith chart
plot of what it's supposed to be transforming.
Even if force is produced, there is no apparent violation of Newton's
laws so far. The fact that you have only measured negligible force, probably due to experimental error, is consistent with that.
I have UHF currents in both arms
I can only tell you that we measure the PNN thrust both with a
ballistic pendulum and with electronic scales
E.Laureti wrote:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
Very casual inspection of your above description immediately raises questions:
1. You are feeding the dipoles with 432 mhz *ac*. The positive
half-cycle will produce a (alleged) v X B force in one direction, the negative half-cycle produces a force in the opposite direction. The alternating forces cancel each other out. Zero net force is produced beyond the nanosecond scale. What am I missing here?
The configuration of the currents in the two semicircuits is this:
Fig. 2 and Fig. 3
in https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
And the force between the two arms is variable but is always repulsive and you must experiment
to clear your doubts.
Even if that were true, how does a repulsive force between paddles move
your spacecraft forward?
Here, in addition to other information, is a guide to the equipment to use
http://www.asps.it/paper16.pdf
2. Is the magnetic field entirely from the ferrite devices? If so, then any "force" [TINF] would be exerted between the dipole and the ferrites. It doesn't act externally as "propulsion" would.
As I have already said, with good experimentation and patience,
doubts will be resolved
You can't answer, so I assume there's no "propulsion".
Doubts are already substantially resolved. If you want to overcome the
doubt, you need to do a demonstration with an independent third party to confirm everything. If you could do that, investors would be beating
your door down, and you wouldn't be reduced to spamming Usenet for your
daily bread.
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:
Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> posted:
E.Laureti wrote:
we can show experiments,
no you can't.
in Figure 5 in
https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
Very casual inspection of your above description immediately raises questions:
1. You are feeding the dipoles with 432 mhz *ac*. The positive half-cycle will produce a (alleged) v X B force in one direction, the negative half-cycle produces a force in the opposite direction. The alternating forces cancel each other out. Zero net force is produced beyond the nanosecond scale. What am I missing here?
The configuration of the currents in the two semicircuits is this:
Fig. 2 and Fig. 3
in https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-electromagnetic-thruster/
And the force between the two arms is variable but is always repulsive and you must experiment
to clear your doubts.
Even if that were true, how does a repulsive force between paddles move your spacecraft forward?
can you understand that Fr is a vector resulting from the force vectors Fa and Fb?
http://www.asps.it/impnn2.png ?
it seems NO
All your doubts are resolved from http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png
But your words says to me that
you are unable to do the simple pendulum test in http://www.asps.it/paper16.pdf
I must point out that I do not want to waste time and that I am not looking for loans or anything else, but only to sell an existing prototype F432BA that, at the current state, far surpasses ionic propulsion, and does not lose mass like rockets, therefore it is a revolution in the field of astronautics. Its sale would allow us to complete a prototype capable of flying. I and my Association, founded in 1979, have the only propulsion system capable of revolutionizing existing astronautics and we are very opposed by those who build rockets.
To set up the PNN test trials, 40 days are needed.
Therefore, a deposit is required to understand whether the counterparty is serious or not. The required deposit is 12,000 euros to be paid via PayPal as indicated in the PayPal icon at http://www.asps.it. If the tests are successful for the counterparty, the prototype will be sold for 1,200,000 euros. Details to believe what has been done are at https://propulsion-revolution.com.
Here are some videos :
www.asps.it/qct05_ENG.mp4
https://youtu.be/UjAimDWIc1
http://www.asps.it/PNN488.mp4
We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars. Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.
In summary :
We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in: http://www.asps.it and in https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
After the payment of the deposit, additional documentation will be provided.
On Aug 8, 2025, E.Laureti wrote
(in article <1076e71$127up$1@dont-email.me>):
I must point out that I do not want to waste time and that I am not looking >> for loans or anything else, but only to sell an existing prototype F432BA
that, at the current state, far surpasses ionic propulsion, and does not lose
mass like rockets, therefore it is a revolution in the field of astronautics.
Its sale would allow us to complete a prototype capable of flying. I and my >> Association, founded in 1979, have the only propulsion system capable of
revolutionizing existing astronautics and we are very opposed by those who >> build rockets.
To set up the PNN test trials, 40 days are needed.
Therefore, a deposit is required to understand whether the counterparty is >> serious or not. The required deposit is 12,000 euros to be paid via PayPal as
indicated in the PayPal icon at http://www.asps.it. If the tests are
successful for the counterparty, the prototype will be sold for 1,200,000
euros. Details to believe what has been done are at
https://propulsion-revolution.com.
Here are some videos :
www.asps.it/qct05_ENG.mp4
https://youtu.be/UjAimDWIc1
http://www.asps.it/PNN488.mp4
We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the >> time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics,
Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.
In summary :
We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile
technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for
over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in: http://www.asps.it and in
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT
WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
After the payment of the deposit, additional documentation will be provided.
You cannot demonstrate any net acceleration at all. You cannot lift as little >as a single kilogram. If you could, every aerospace company or government >dept in Europe would be pounding at your door offering unlimited funding. You >would have rendered all aircraft, especially all military aircraft, and all >surface ships and submarines obsolete.
You have failed to demonstrate any progress in your idea after _years_.
Come back when you can lift a kilo to a meter and keep it there for a >sustained period.
On Aug 8, 2025, E.Laureti wrote
(in article <1076e71$127up$1@dont-email.me>):
I must point out that I do not want to waste time and that I am not looking >> for loans or anything else, but only to sell an existing prototype F432BA
that, at the current state, far surpasses ionic propulsion, and does not lose
mass like rockets, therefore it is a revolution in the field of astronautics.
Its sale would allow us to complete a prototype capable of flying. I and my >> Association, founded in 1979, have the only propulsion system capable of
revolutionizing existing astronautics and we are very opposed by those who >> build rockets.
To set up the PNN test trials, 40 days are needed.
Therefore, a deposit is required to understand whether the counterparty is >> serious or not. The required deposit is 12,000 euros to be paid via PayPal as
indicated in the PayPal icon at http://www.asps.it. If the tests are
successful for the counterparty, the prototype will be sold for 1,200,000
euros. Details to believe what has been done are at
https://propulsion-revolution.com.
Here are some videos :
www.asps.it/qct05_ENG.mp4
https://youtu.be/UjAimDWIc1
http://www.asps.it/PNN488.mp4
We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the >> time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics,
Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.
In summary :
We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile
technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for
over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in: http://www.asps.it and in
https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT
WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
After the payment of the deposit, additional documentation will be provided.
You cannot demonstrate any net acceleration at all. You cannot lift as little >as a single kilogram. If you could, every aerospace company or government >dept in Europe would be pounding at your door offering unlimited funding. You >would have rendered all aircraft, especially all military aircraft, and all >surface ships and submarines obsolete.
You have failed to demonstrate any progress in your idea after _years_.
Come back when you can lift a kilo to a meter and keep it there for a >sustained period.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 17:06:15 -0400, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025, E.Laureti wrote
(in article <1076e71$127up$1@dont-email.me>):
I must point out that I do not want to waste time and that I am not looking
for loans or anything else, but only to sell an existing prototype F432BA that, at the current state, far surpasses ionic propulsion, and does not lose
mass like rockets, therefore it is a revolution in the field of astronautics.
Its sale would allow us to complete a prototype capable of flying. I and my
Association, founded in 1979, have the only propulsion system capable of revolutionizing existing astronautics and we are very opposed by those who
build rockets.
To set up the PNN test trials, 40 days are needed.
Therefore, a deposit is required to understand whether the counterparty is
serious or not. The required deposit is 12,000 euros to be paid via PayPal
as
indicated in the PayPal icon at http://www.asps.it. If the tests are successful for the counterparty, the prototype will be sold for 1,200,000 euros. Details to believe what has been done are at https://propulsion-revolution.com.
Here are some videos :
www.asps.it/qct05_ENG.mp4
https://youtu.be/UjAimDWIc1
http://www.asps.it/PNN488.mp4
We need to build spacecraft that do not lose pieces like these.
Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg
Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg
The round trip with missile propulsion has been a failure for this since the
time of Apollo 11; we have not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars.
Violating the principle of action and reaction through electrodynamics, Non-Newtonian Propulsion (PNN) https://propulsion-revolution.com
allows for the construction of spacecraft that do not lose pieces.
In summary :
We sell the PNN prototype F432BA . An alternative to the failing missile technology that has not been able to colonize either the Moon or Mars for over half a century (Apollo 11). Info in: http://www.asps.it and in https://propulsion-revolution.com
Patent:
WO2022264177 - ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177
After the payment of the deposit, additional documentation will be provided.
You cannot demonstrate any net acceleration at all. You cannot lift as little
as a single kilogram. If you could, every aerospace company or government dept in Europe would be pounding at your door offering unlimited funding. You
would have rendered all aircraft, especially all military aircraft, and all surface ships and submarines obsolete.
You have failed to demonstrate any progress in your idea after _years_.
Come back when you can lift a kilo to a meter and keep it there for a sustained period.
I do whatever I want when I want and how I want.
Fuck you.
I do whatever I want when I want and how I want.
Fuck you.
