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QUOTE:
Does intelligent design have a better answer for the origin of the
universe and the origin of life than the standard neo-Darwinian explanation? END QUOTE:

The ID perps want to make Darwin into some type of boogeyman. They have
used their misconceptions about what they call Darwinism to lie about biological evolution since the start of the ID scam. Darwin's
contribution to biological evolution was the concept of natural
selection. Natural selection becomes involved in the evolution of life
after you have lifeforms exhibiting variation to select. There is no Darwinian explanation for the origin of life or the origin of the
universe. What the the ID perps are lying about being "Darwinian" is
just the basic concepts of science that are applied to the origin of
life and the origin of the universe. All science has to abide by these
basic concepts or they are not scientific.

All the ID perps are doing by lying about Darwinism is admitting that
they are lying about ID being viable science. The ID perps are
anti-science, and not anti-Darwinism.

Ron Okimoto

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On 7/29/2025 8:54 AM, RonO wrote:

intelligent design

intelligent design ?

humans design computers ?

computers are intelligent ?

intelligence isn't necessarily consciousness ?

what about conscious design ?

CD ?
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On 7/29/2025 7:54 AM, RonO wrote:

https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/exploring-intelligent-design-a- conversation-with-casey-luskin-and-kristin-marais/

QUOTE:
Does intelligent design have a better answer for the origin of the
universe and the origin of life than the standard neo-Darwinian
explanation?
END QUOTE:

The ID perps want to make Darwin into some type of boogeyman.-a They have used their misconceptions about what they call Darwinism to lie about biological evolution since the start of the ID scam.-a Darwin's
contribution to biological evolution was the concept of natural
selection.-a Natural selection becomes involved in the evolution of life after you have lifeforms exhibiting variation to select.-a There is no Darwinian explanation for the origin of life or the origin of the universe.-a What the the ID perps are lying about being "Darwinian" is
just the basic concepts of science that are applied to the origin of
life and the origin of the universe.-a All science has to abide by these basic concepts or they are not scientific.

All the ID perps are doing by lying about Darwinism is admitting that
they are lying about ID being viable science.-a The ID perps are anti- science, and not anti-Darwinism.

Ron Okimoto

What should be noted is that the ID perps understand that they are lying
about Darwinism. They put out their bogus "A scientific Dissent from Darwinism" back in 2001, the year before they started running the bait
and switch scam on creationist rubes.

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We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and
natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful
examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.
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They specifically limited Darwinism to the natural selection of random mutations when they understood that Biological evolution was known to be
more than just due natural selection. They purposely left out what else
was known about biological evolution in order to get the stupid and
mostly dishonest creation "scientists" to sign the bogus claim. Honest
and competent evolutionary biologists could have signed this statement
because it was already widely accepted that natural selection was not
the only thing identified as being associated with the evolution of life
on earth. In 2001 there were already biologists that were proposing
that genetic drift had a larger influence on the diversity of life on
earth than natural selection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scientific_Dissent_from_Darwinism

Anyone can still sign this bogus statement up at the Discovery Institute.

https://dissentfromdarwin.org/

Ron Okimoto

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RonO wrote:
> QUOTE:

Does intelligent design have a better answer for the origin of the
universe and the origin of life than the standard neo-Darwinian
explanation?

Darwin is a myth. There is ZERO separation between Darwin and some
random invisible sky pixie. You're believing in something that does
not and never has existed.

Darwin did even believe in evolution! His one theory, Pangenesis,
was 100% consistent with (and plagiarized from the same sources as)
the lysenkoism of the communist world.

Let me rephrase that so any lurkers can understand how disordered
you are, that you're a compulsive liar and you are intentionally
misinforming people...

The communist world under Stalin rejected and outlawed evolution.
They saw it as imperialistic, as an excuse for Nazi style "Master
Race" teachings. Put short, the communist world outlawed evolution
because they saw it as imperialistic philosophy. But...

Darwin and his one and only theory, Pangenesis, was fine. You could
get away with that. In fact, they plagiarized the same sources as
Darwin, called their version "lysenkoism" and are credited with
sparking a famine in China with their denials...

We're all used to morons misunderstanding and misusing a term. Most
of us have done it ourselves. And then SUDDENLY the devout believers,
such as you, pretend it never happens, when the flatulent, racist,
classicist plagiarist eventually starts using the word "Evolution"
but comes up with a theory that those who outlawed evolution
couldn't have a problem with...

SECONDLY...

I have personally argued with I.D. proponents who denied that they
were concluding "God." That, they fully acknowledged that even if
we all agreed with I.D. we could all decide it was aliens who
stopped by the earth and "Designed" life...

The ID perps want to make Darwin into some type of boogeyman.

Wrong. YOU keep proving that you are devoutly religious, that you
operate on faith and that you worship Darwin despite all fact...

You make a leap of faith!

You're so weak that you can't admit anything, even the obvious
fraud that is Darwin, or your mind comes crashing down.
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