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  • Re: ABC Execs Hit 'The View' Hosts With This Shocking Trump Request: Report

    From ltlee1@ltlee1@hotmail.com (ltlee1) to alt.politics.usa,soc.culture.china on Sun May 25 06:22:55 2025
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    Why?
    Simple reason.

    Democracy originally means People Rule. Western democracy reduces
    "People Rule" to "People Vote" once every few year and People
    Protest/Riot occasionally. What else, "People talk about politics" lots
    of the time. This is also how all the show hosts and media commentators
    make their livings.

    See? Democracy in Western nations, especially the US, is about talking
    about politics and listening such talks.
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  • From A. Filip@anfi@onionmail.org to alt.politics.usa,soc.culture.china on Sun May 25 09:57:19 2025
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    ltlee1@hotmail.com (ltlee1) wrote:
    Why?
    Simple reason.

    Democracy originally means People Rule. Western democracy reduces
    "People Rule" to "People Vote" once every few year and People
    Protest/Riot occasionally. What else, "People talk about politics" lots
    of the time. This is also how all the show hosts and media commentators
    make their livings.

    See? Democracy in Western nations, especially the US, is about talking
    about politics and listening such talks.

    What do you suggest?
    Should we use "electocracy" instead of "democracy"?

    Implying no (significant+) difference between ancient Greek democracy
    [in a city (a small state)], direct Swiss democracy and typical western parliamentary "electocracy" would be brave/stupid.

    BTW Population of Swiss Confederation is 9 million.
    IMHO It implies current upper limit on effective direct democracy.
    --
    A. Filip
    | When God created two sexes, he may have been overdoing it.
    | (Charles Merrill Smith)
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  • From ltlee1@ltlee1@hotmail.com (ltlee1) to alt.politics.usa,soc.culture.china on Sun May 25 14:58:10 2025
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    A. Philip wrote

    What do you suggest?
    Should we use "electocracy" instead of "democracy"?

    Implying no (significant+) difference between ancient Greek democracy
    [in a city (a small state)], direct Swiss democracy and typical western parliamentary "electocracy" would be brave/stupid.

    BTW Population of Swiss Confederation is 9 million.
    IMHO It implies current upper limit on effective direct democracy.

    1) Germane to the beginning post, Trump is doing what he should be doing
    like other citizens. That is, talking about politics and listening other
    people talking about politics.

    Besides ritualistic voting once every few years and occasional
    protests/riots, most people are relegated to talk about politics and
    listen other people talking about politics. Unfortunately, such by the
    people and from the people are unlikely to effective change for the good
    of the people.

    2) Concerning your questions, the issue is not how the system is named.
    It is what We The People could or could not do most of the time. And
    whether the collective ability and capacity of the people are fully
    tapped to make the country better for all.

    If one looks into the future, the End of History system would be a
    system in which people could rule with their full ability and capacity, collectively speaking.
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