• Hubble to operated in one-gyro

    From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to sci.space.policy on Tue Jun 4 14:30:04 2024
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    Per NASA newsconference, HST will begin operating in one-gyro mode.
    Three gryos are dead, the three improved gyros are still operating but
    one has been giving bad data from time to time, causing safe-mode
    operations. This will be kept offline as "from time to time" becomes
    more frequent.

    Hubble annual operations about $95 million.

    (The improvement is in corrosion resistance.)

    (Questions were asked about the proposed Polaris reboost mission)

    NASA participants were Mark Clampin, director of the Astrophysics
    Division of the Science Mission Directorate, and Patrick Crouse,
    project manager of Hubble Space Telescope at Goddard. About 6 minutes
    of prepared presentation, and the remaining time, about 35 minutes, for
    Q&A.


    BTW, for an interview with Mark Clampin, especially looking forward to
    the Habitable Worlds Observatory, see Dr Smethhurst's channel ... <URL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWaK3hFZwk> <URL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2JIkAPcdnU>

    /dps
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  • From The Running Man@runningman@writeable.com to sci.space.policy on Wed Jun 5 12:26:57 2024
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    On 04/06/2024 14:30 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
    Per NASA newsconference, HST will begin operating in one-gyro mode.
    Three gryos are dead, the three improved gyros are still operating but
    one has been giving bad data from time to time, causing safe-mode operations. This will be kept offline as "from time to time" becomes
    more frequent.

    Hubble annual operations about $95 million.

    (The improvement is in corrosion resistance.)

    (Questions were asked about the proposed Polaris reboost mission)


    I very much doubt Hubble can be repaired by a Polaris (Crew Dragon) mission since they don't have a platform to attach Dragon to Hubble. Also, who's going to pay for all this? Isaacman is conjuring up this mission but I'm pretty sure he's not going to pay it out of his own pocket.
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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to sci.space.policy on Wed Jun 5 07:45:32 2024
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    The Running Man blurted out:
    On 04/06/2024 14:30 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
    Per NASA newsconference, HST will begin operating in one-gyro mode.
    Three gryos are dead, the three improved gyros are still operating but
    one has been giving bad data from time to time, causing safe-mode
    operations. This will be kept offline as "from time to time" becomes
    more frequent.

    Hubble annual operations about $95 million.

    (The improvement is in corrosion resistance.)

    (Questions were asked about the proposed Polaris reboost mission)


    I very much doubt Hubble can be repaired by a Polaris (Crew Dragon) mission since they don't have a platform to attach Dragon to Hubble.

    Hubble has what might be considered a docking adapter, fitted on the
    lst servicing mission. How Dragon would use it is part of the TBDs
    Clampin says need to be filled in before NASA would be giving the
    go-ahead. And if the mission includes attaching external gyros to
    Hubble, those would have to be developed.

    Also, who's
    going to pay for all this?

    NASA would be paying for it, as they would for a de-orbit mission.

    Isaacman is conjuring up this mission but I'm
    pretty sure he's not going to pay it out of his own pocket.

    No, but I bet he's paying for some of the early planning.

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  • From Niklas Holsti@niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid to sci.space.policy on Wed Jun 5 17:57:28 2024
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    On 2024-06-05 15:26, The Running Man wrote:
    On 04/06/2024 14:30 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
    Per NASA newsconference, HST will begin operating in one-gyro
    mode. Three gryos are dead, the three improved gyros are still
    operating but one has been giving bad data from time to time,
    causing safe-mode operations. This will be kept offline as "from
    time to time" becomes more frequent.

    Hubble annual operations about $95 million.

    (The improvement is in corrosion resistance.)

    (Questions were asked about the proposed Polaris reboost mission)


    I very much doubt Hubble can be repaired by a Polaris (Crew Dragon)
    mission since they don't have a platform to attach Dragon to Hubble.


    The Polaris mission is for reboost, not repair. At the NASA news
    conference, NASA said they believe that thanks to the improved corrosion-resistant gyros, Hubble can very likely operate in the
    one-gyro mode to the end of the 2020's, and has about a 70% chance of operating into the low 2030's (IIRC). So a repair does not seem very urgent. --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to sci.space.policy on Fri Jun 14 12:16:37 2024
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    With a quizzical look, Snidely observed:
    The Running Man blurted out:
    On 04/06/2024 14:30 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
    Per NASA newsconference, HST will begin operating in one-gyro mode. Three >>> gryos are dead, the three improved gyros are still operating but one has >>> been giving bad data from time to time, causing safe-mode operations.
    This will be kept offline as "from time to time" becomes more frequent.

    Hubble annual operations about $95 million.

    (The improvement is in corrosion resistance.)

    (Questions were asked about the proposed Polaris reboost mission)


    I very much doubt Hubble can be repaired by a Polaris (Crew Dragon) mission >> since they don't have a platform to attach Dragon to Hubble.

    Hubble has what might be considered a docking adapter, fitted on the lst servicing mission. How Dragon would use it is part of the TBDs Clampin says need to be filled in before NASA would be giving the go-ahead. And if the mission includes attaching external gyros to Hubble, those would have to be developed.

    Also, who's going to pay for all this?

    NASA would be paying for it, as they would for a de-orbit mission.

    I seem to be wrong about this.

    Isaacman is conjuring up this mission but I'm pretty sure he's not going to >> pay it out of his own pocket.

    No, but I bet he's paying for some of the early planning.

    Perhaps SpaceX and Isaacman are sharing the bill.

    Isaacman discusses NASA's response with Ellie In Space:

    <URL:https://youtu.be/HCd6hvmEJ2U?t=1068>

    While Clampin seems open to the proposal "eventually", he seems
    confident that Hubble will keep going into the 2030s, and that too many details need to be worked out to justify rushing into a solution. But Isaacman thinks NASA is not being completely candid about Hubble's
    health and that the current solar maximum reduces the time available.

    /dps
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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to sci.space.policy on Tue Jun 25 10:32:18 2024
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    On Friday, Snidely exclaimed wildly:
    With a quizzical look, Snidely observed:
    The Running Man blurted out:
    On 04/06/2024 14:30 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
    Per NASA newsconference, HST will begin operating in one-gyro mode.
    Three gryos are dead, the three improved gyros are still operating but >>>> one has been giving bad data from time to time, causing safe-mode
    operations. This will be kept offline as "from time to time" becomes >>>> more frequent.

    Hubble annual operations about $95 million.

    (The improvement is in corrosion resistance.)

    (Questions were asked about the proposed Polaris reboost mission)


    I very much doubt Hubble can be repaired by a Polaris (Crew Dragon)
    mission since they don't have a platform to attach Dragon to Hubble.

    Hubble has what might be considered a docking adapter, fitted on the lst
    servicing mission. How Dragon would use it is part of the TBDs Clampin
    says need to be filled in before NASA would be giving the go-ahead. And if >> the mission includes attaching external gyros to Hubble, those would have >> to be developed.

    Also, who's going to pay for all this?

    NASA would be paying for it, as they would for a de-orbit mission.

    I seem to be wrong about this.

    Isaacman is conjuring up this mission but I'm pretty sure he's not going >>> to pay it out of his own pocket.

    No, but I bet he's paying for some of the early planning.

    Perhaps SpaceX and Isaacman are sharing the bill.

    Isaacman discusses NASA's response with Ellie In Space:

    <URL:https://youtu.be/HCd6hvmEJ2U?t=1068>

    While Clampin seems open to the proposal "eventually", he seems confident that Hubble will keep going into the 2030s, and that too many details need to
    be worked out to justify rushing into a solution. But Isaacman thinks NASA is not being completely candid about Hubble's health and that the current solar maximum reduces the time available.


    I think Eric Berger feels the biggest push-back came from the Astronaut Office. He spent some time chatting with NSF hosts before Flight 4

    [One way to maybe resolve that would be to include NASA astronauts on
    the Polaris Hubble crew, seems to me.]

    /dps
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