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Le 29/07/2025 |a 22:01, "Paul.B.Andersen" a |-crit :

Den 29.07.2025 09:48, skrev Thomas Heger:

observer knows that according to Einstein:
"The two clocks synchronise if tB reA tA = t'A reA tB."

Einstein is mistaken; the two watches are not in tune. They are isochronotropic, which is very different.

For them to be in tune, they must not only mark the same time, but they
must constantly mark the same time.

If two watches mark the same time, they are not necessarily in tune. For
if they mark noon, and ten minutes later, one marks 9:00 and the other
11:00, we cannot say that they are in tune.

Similarly, if two watches beat at the same speed, but if one marks noon
and the other one o'clock, then a few days later, one marks three o'clock
and the other four, I conclude that they are isochronotropic, but I cannot conclude that they mark the same time, and therefore that they are in
tune.

Einstein seems to be confusing chronotropy and simultaneity. This is the criticism I have also made of scientists for 40 years.

R.H.
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Le 31/07/2025 |a 14:25, Richard Hachel a |-crit :

Le 29/07/2025 |a 22:01, "Paul.B.Andersen" a |-crit :

Den 29.07.2025 09:48, skrev Thomas Heger:

observer knows that according to Einstein:
"The two clocks synchronise if tB reA tA = t'A reA tB."

Einstein is mistaken; the two watches are not in tune. They are isochronotropic,
which is very different.

For them to be in tune, they must not only mark the same time, but they must constantly mark the same time.

If two watches mark the same time, they are not necessarily in tune. For if they
mark noon, and ten minutes later, one marks 9:00 and the other 11:00, we cannot
say that they are in tune.

Similarly, if two watches beat at the same speed, but if one marks noon and the
other one o'clock, then a few days later, one marks three o'clock and the other
four, I conclude that they are isochronotropic, but I cannot conclude that they
mark the same time, and therefore that they are in tune.

Einstein seems to be confusing chronotropy and simultaneity. This is the criticism I have also made of scientists for 40 years.

R.H.

Your post is, as always, complete nonsense. You expose, once again, your complete misunderstanding of what Einstein AND Poincar|- wrote.

Ton post est, comme toujours, un complet nonsense. Tu ne fais qu'exposer,
une fois de plus, ta totale incompr|-hension de ce qu'Einstein ET
Poincar|- ont |-crit.

https://gitlab.com/python_431/cranks-and-physics/-/blob/main/Hachel/dissonance_lengrand.pdf
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On 2025-07-31 12:25:04 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

Le 29/07/2025 |a 22:01, "Paul.B.Andersen" a |-crit :

Den 29.07.2025 09:48, skrev Thomas Heger:

observer knows that according to Einstein:
"The two clocks synchronise if tB reA tA = t'A reA tB."

Einstein is mistaken; the two watches are not in tune. They are isochronotropic, which is very different.

What a pity that Einstein didn't have "Doctor" Hachel available to
explain basic physics to him.
--
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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Le 31/07/2025 |a 15:24, Athel Cornish-Bowden a |-crit :

What a pity that Einstein didn't have "Doctor" Hachel available to
explain basic physics to him.

athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

J'aurais aim|- en discuter avec Poincar|-, surement pas avec Einstein.

R.H.
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Le 31/07/2025 |a 15:24, Athel Cornish-Bowden a |-crit :

athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

Et hop!

Un cr|-tin de plus l|och|- dans la nature.

R.H.
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Le 31/07/2025 |a 16:58, Richard Hachel a |-crit :

Le 31/07/2025 |a 15:24, Athel Cornish-Bowden a |-crit :

What a pity that Einstein didn't have "Doctor" Hachel available to
explain basic physics to him.


athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

J'aurais aim|- en discuter avec Poincar|-, surement pas avec Einstein.

R.H.

Poincar|- would have kicked your ass as much, probably even stronger, than Einstein would have do.

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:1>

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:2>

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:3>
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Le 31/07/2025 |a 17:15, Python a |-crit :

Le 31/07/2025 |a 16:58, Richard Hachel a |-crit :

Le 31/07/2025 |a 15:24, Athel Cornish-Bowden a |-crit :

What a pity that Einstein didn't have "Doctor" Hachel available to
explain basic physics to him.


athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

J'aurais aim|- en discuter avec Poincar|-, surement pas avec Einstein.

R.H.

Poincar|- would have kicked your ass as much, probably even stronger, than Einstein would have do.

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:1>

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:2>

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:3>

J'ai d|-j|a expliqu|- pourquoi tout cela |-tait d|-bile, et j'ai donn|-
toutes les |-quations correctes ici, ou sur les r|-seaux sociaux.

Il semble que l'|-tre humain est un cr|-tin de nature, qui ne comprend que
les claques dans la gueule
et les coups de genoux dans les couilles.

Si tu arrives gentiment, tu ne r|-ussiras jamais |a rien.

Va d|-filer avec des petites bougies et des mouchoirs blancs contre la p|-dophilie, va d|-filer contre la politique de monsieur Macron avec des petits |-criteaux gentils. Il va demander |a tirer |a tir tendu des balles
de plastique dans les yeux des jeunes filles, et tu vas revenir tout
triste.

Va expliquer |a un musulman que depuis mille cinq ans ans, on raconte des bobards |a ses anc|-tres, et il va devenir fou. C'est m|-me lui qui va
sortir les couteaux, alors qu'il n'est pas DU TOUT en position de force intellectuelle.

Tu ne peux pas enseigner gentiment (|a l'|-cole au Japon, la ma|<tre enseignait |a coups de b|oton, et tu devait ensuite saluer et dire merci Monsieur). C'est impossible.

Qu'est ce que tu veux que je te dise?

On ne peux pas synchroniser deux montres "absolument" car elle seront de nature, par une propri|-t|- de l'espace, r|-ciproquement d|-synchronis|-e.
La temps "pr|-sent" absolu n'existe pas dans un r|-f|-rentiel.
Si la chronotropie est la m|-me (c'est |-vident), la notion de
simultan|-it|- diff|?re.

La chronotropie diff|?re par changement de r|-f|-rentiel, et la notion de simultan|-it|- diff|?re par changement positionnel dans un m|-me r|-f|-rentiel. Si dur |a comprendre l'id|-e? ? ? ?

Putain...

Cette notion d'anisochronie spatiale est donc si g|-niale? Si incroyable? Mais qu'est ce qu'il se passe dans vos esprits de cr|-tins?

Tu ne pourras donc jamais accorder tes montres. Si tu accordes A sur B, ce sera tr|?s bien. Mais cette fois, c'est B qui n'est plus accord|- sur A
avec un d|-calage r|-el de t=2AB/c.

Que te dire de plus? Qu'expliquer de plus qui soit si difficile |a comprendre?

Tu remarqueras que je le dis gentiment.

Et que parfois, cela nuit incroyablement |a la science, comme partout.

Suivi sci.physics.relativity

Quant |a toi, disons les choses, tu n'es qu'un sombre rigolo.

R.H.




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On 2025-07-31 15:15:13 +0000, Python said:

Le 31/07/2025 a 16:58, Richard Hachel a ocrit :

Le 31/07/2025 a 15:24, Athel Cornish-Bowden a ocrit :

What a pity that Einstein didn't have "Doctor" Hachel available to
explain basic physics to him.


athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

J'aurais aimo en discuter avec Poincaro, surement pas avec Einstein.

R.H.

Poincaro would have kicked your ass as much, probably even stronger,
than Einstein would have do.

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:1>

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:2>

<http://nemoweb.net/jntp?9ji2Xqw_kIWfqEbvWn89mC0STWE@jntp/Data.Media:3>

I'm still wondering where "Doctor" Hachel bought his doctorate. I had suspected that it might be that great seat of learning Bob Jones
University. Now I'm thinking that might be too intellectual for
"Doctor" Hachel, and I'm more inclined towards somewhere like Patriot
Bible University. He could put an end to speculation by revealing which university it was, and what the topic of his thesis was.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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Le 31/07/2025 |a 18:37, Richard Hachel a |-crit :

Il semble que l'|-tre humain est un cr|-tin de nature,

C'est hors-sujet ici, non ?

qui ne comprend que ... les coups de genoux dans les couilles.

et en plus ca ne concerne pas la moiti|- de l'humanit|-.

Bon sinon, |a part ca, tu en est o|| du visionnage des vid|-os de maths ?




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Le 31/07/2025 |a 22:37, Samuel DEVULDER a |-crit :

Le 31/07/2025 |a 18:37, Richard Hachel a |-crit :

Il semble que l'|-tre humain est un cr|-tin de nature,

C'est hors-sujet ici, non ?

qui ne comprend que ... les coups de genoux dans les couilles.

et en plus ca ne concerne pas la moiti|- de l'humanit|-.

Bon sinon, |a part ca, tu en est o|| du visionnage des vid|-os de maths ?

Je traine par ci par l|a...

Mais rien de bien int|-ressant pour avancer.

On en reste toujours au m|-me probl|?me. A quoi correspond
math|-matiquement la multiplication par -i-#
du discriminant d'une fonction quadratique? En plus, ce n'est que pour les fonction quadratique ce machin.
C'est petit.

C'|-tait ma premi|?re question.

Ma deuxi|?me question, c'est :
Bon tout le monde a compris ce que c'|-tait qu'une rotation de 180-# d'une courbe autour d'un point central.
Sauf |-videmment les deux rigolos de services, qui se pr|-tendent des professeurs ayant enseign|- en facult|-,
mais je me demande si les facult|-s ont toutes leurs facult|-s d'enr||ler
de tels sp|-cimens.

Ma courbe tourne autour du point $(0,yo) et sa nouvelle fonction devient g(x)=-f(-x)+2yo

S'il n'y a pas de yo, la courbe ne croisant pas y'Oy, on note yo=0, tout simplement.

Nous obtenons cette fois de possibles "z|-ros".

Ce que j'appelle les racines imaginaires pures par rotation de point
$(0,yo).

Mais |a quoi peuvent servir ces racines?

De plus ces racines sont elles plus "l|-gales" que les racines dites "complexes"? Dans le sens o||, quand j'utilise -i-#, je dois l'utiliser
pour toute l'|-quation et non seulement sur mon discriminent.

L|a, je reste un peu bloqu|-.

Troisi|?mement, je ne vois pas trop le rapport d'un plan cart|-sien
analytique et un plan de Gauss dit complexe. Comment d|-finir ce rapport?

Bref comment placer un cercle trigonom|-trique complexe, dans mon espace cart|-sien originel, sans |-tre oblig|- de recourir |a une troisi|?me dimension?

R.H.


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On Thu, 31 Jul 25 12:25:04 +0000, Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr>
wrote:

Le 29/07/2025 a 22:01, "Paul.B.Andersen" a ocrit :

Den 29.07.2025 09:48, skrev Thomas Heger:

observer knows that according to Einstein:
"The two clocks synchronise if tB ? tA = t'A ? tB."

Einstein is mistaken; the two watches are not in tune. They are >isochronotropic, which is very different.

For them to be in tune, they must not only mark the same time, but they
must constantly mark the same time.

If two watches mark the same time, they are not necessarily in tune. For
if they mark noon, and ten minutes later, one marks 9:00 and the other >11:00, we cannot say that they are in tune.

Similarly, if two watches beat at the same speed, but if one marks noon
and the other one o'clock, then a few days later, one marks three o'clock >and the other four, I conclude that they are isochronotropic, but I cannot >conclude that they mark the same time, and therefore that they are in
tune.

Einstein seems to be confusing chronotropy and simultaneity. This is the >criticism I have also made of scientists for 40 years.

R.H.

"in tune"????

Looney tunes.

"isochronotropic"???? dat ain't english!

not even a word.


psssst...i heard the french invented everything.

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On 2025-07-31 12:25:04 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

Le 29/07/2025 |a 22:01, "Paul.B.Andersen" a |-crit :

Den 29.07.2025 09:48, skrev Thomas Heger:

observer knows that according to Einstein:
"The two clocks synchronise if tB reA tA = t'A reA tB."

Einstein is mistaken; the two watches are not in tune. They are isochronotropic, which is very different.

Here Einstein does not claim anything so there is no way to be mistaken.
--
Mikko

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