• Re: OK, .. Let's see :-)

    From x@x@x.net to sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 13:01:15 2025
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    On 7/13/25 16:37, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 7/13/25 5:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 7/13/25 2:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
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    On 7/12/25 11:34 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 7/12/25 10:47 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:



    The spokesperson of Iran's foreign ministry said something about
    "negotiations" again. A reporter later asked if foreign ministry
    after all that's happened still trusts Americans. He answered:

    "Our trust in Americans isn't zero. It is below zero."

    Hahhahhahahhhahhh :-)))

    Reporter said, "Then why you guys are still talking about
    negotiations with them?"

    He answered by something to the effect of: "Our trust with them
    was below zero before the recent negotiations as well, in fact
    since August of 1953. This doesn't mean foreign ministry should
    stop its everyday functions and tasks. We do our job regardless,
    and what's out of our control is not our responsibilities.
    Americans themselves, and other parts of Iran's government will
    decide."

    In other words, the push is coming from Pezeshkiyan's useless ass.
    Otherwise you would not even hear the word "negotiations".


    A sum up of the effect of Israelis' attack on Iran:
    Reporters picked one of the fiercest anti-Iranian government
    protesters (a quite attractive and intelligent young Tehrani woman
    by the way) and asked her if there has been any change in her
    thoughts about Iran's government and Israel and USA. She answered:

    "Before this war, we were risking our asses shouting in
    streets of Tehran, 'No Ghaza, No Lebanon, My Heart Is Only Iran'.
    And now with this war, for the first time in my life, I understood
    what the government was telling us all along. They were telling
    us, 'If we do not fight them in Syria, we will fight them in
    Tehran', and now I understand this with my flesh and bones."

    That's how all the oppositions disappeared and the total Iran,
    solidly placed herself behind the effort to kick Israeli and
    American ass. Much much more is in store for both Israel and USA.
    They haven't smelled this new coffee yet.

    It took 20 years for Americans to smell the coffee of August of
    1953. It took losing their embassy in Iran to get it. Losing all
    their unbelievably profitable businesses in Iran. This time
    around, since there are precedence, they may understand what's
    happened a bit sooner. But if you ask me, they most probably do
    not understand this one even after 20 years.

    The reason for that is that Americans and Israelis today are
    stupid and dumb. They're much, much more of Sheep and Nazis that
    their grandparents were in 1953. Totally different populations.
    Totally Sheep in one faction, and totally Nazi in the other. No
    one else between them but a number of Billionaires tiny in
    comparison. A huge gigantic concentration camp run by Nazis and
    Billionaires. Nobody can really save. Nobody can really own
    anything. Nobody can get a decent education. Nobody can get a
    decent health insurance. Nobody sees a decent government even in
    far, far horizons.

    The two countries both are fucked by Nazis and Billionaires.

    Would this people smell the coffee that took their grandparents 20
    years to find out, in just 20 years? I don't think so. I think by
    the time it takes for them to notice it, they've lived their
    subjugated lives and gotten old and died. So I think they'll never
    understand what's in store for their wonderful "America" or
    "Israel."

    Fucked up people will only get more fucked up. Brace for it
    motherfuckers! :) Iranians are getting better, more experienced,
    more effective, even more intelligent with time. You motherfucking
    satanic little entities are getting dumber and dumber. And then
    you die and go away, leaving behind even dumber people.

    Fuck you. I mean this from the heart :) No fucking chance you
    Nazis and the Sheep to be on my favorite side.

    All you can ever be, is to live and die as groupies of my dick.
    And you know it.








    Russia took yet one more step towards being another USA for Iran.
    They're on Israelis side of course. Putin is now suggesting Iran
    stop her enrichment.

    Let's see what it means. It means, Putin is actually telling Iran
    not to rely on him for cooperation, knowing full well that
    enrichment is the very probe to check such intentions behind what's
    said.

    And this, in turn, means he's being pressed very hard by USA and
    Israel and wants to disengage and disentangle himself from this. I
    don't blame that much cause USA can exact thousands of Russians'
    lives in the war with Ukraine, and Putin has to protect his own
    people first.

    OK, so Putin is out of the picture. One more time leaving things
    Iran-related to Israel and USA to decide. Has happened before,
    numerous times, has happened one more time right now.

    You know what, I think he's even ready to let go of the Silk Road
    transit plan that's connecting Persian Gulf with Russia higher up,
    when USA's pressure on Russia in the war with Ukraine increases.
    That's how much Ukraine's war is direct business of Iran and
    Iranians!

    So instead of facing Trump's threat in Ukraine and fighting them,
    he wants to throw Iran under Trump's buss, so himself could stay
    safe. Doubtless he's been "negotiating" this with Trump.

    I think Iran should start considering Russia as unreliable as USA.
    Their Putin now sings Americans and Israelis songs for Iran. I
    think North Korea is also useless because of Russians influence on
    them. The only possible sources of help is Afghanestan and
    Pakestan, and no one else in the world. These two countries might
    help because they know their time is soon to come also, and they
    may as well start from right now to engage with enemies.







    Russia's suggestion was not formally given to Iranian authorities,
    but was something that first Lavrov mumbled in some meeting and then
    a rumor spread that Putin had mentioned it also. So when reporters
    inquired foreign ministry's spokesperson about it he said they have
    not received such communication from Russia.

    Well, even I noticed Lavrov's remark some days back. But when I read
    Putin had also mentioned it I became sure what they mean.

    So it doesn't matter if they have officially said it or not. Doesn't
    even matter if they ever said it. Their asses are pro-Israel, and
    that's it. I'd rely on them as much as I'd rely on Israelis.


    Corrected (perhaps final count) number of Israeli drones shot down
    in Iran is 120. They consist of Orbiter-5, Hermes-900, and Herons.
    This count is separate from quadcopters and hand made suicide drones
    which are in thousands.


    Larijani, the "belly button" guy, today said Trump is these days
    ferociously playing his little "abacus" :-) Hahhahahhhahahahahhh :-)
    I love this guy. He knows how to put it into him.

    Larijani must know something that I haven't read about yet. Trump
    and Israel might be looking into the cost of another attack. Trump's
    mentioning of "negotiations" again, by itself, could mean it's the
    bullshit before the act of another war.

    I hope so. The more wars for USA and Israel, the more Nazis will
    pay. That's fair enough. You may say what about this and what about
    that. No, those other things are beside the point. Nature will take
    care of them in a jiffy. But Nazis should pay, and we can't have it
    any other way.

    Fortunately Iranians are fully aware that this 12 day war was 100%
    the work of American Nazis. Israel and Israelis are just the little
    Nazis in it and will pay horribly for what they did in any outcome.
    It is the big Nazis that should pay something back.







    A major major major Nazi news outlet went down in Dallas. Sold and
    gone. The Dallas Morning News, from the first time I took a glimpse
    at it in Summer of 1978, to every single time that I took another
    look in 47 years that followed, was so Nazi in content that would
    make me throw it away two or three minutes into reading anything
    inside it.

    Even its editions from second part of 1800s were Nazi in nature. I
    went over it in the blog that I described the Reunion people (who in
    fact launched Dallas itself) and how they were regarded by this
    newspaper from extremely disgusting conservative points, requiring
    the editors to often lie about their subjects and especially hide
    certain facts about them which supported them if known.

    I have no idea how it happened that the Nazis could not keep the
    paper up now. The money is there and the Nazism is fully there. It
    could be that USA itself has become enough Nazi in nature that an
    extra effort on top of it has become meaningless from now on. This
    could be the reason.

    They don't have to pay for it anymore. It's already there.

    So they just sold the damn thing and forgot about it, after a century
    and half of expounding Nazism.

    Fucking idiots are losing their visibility only because the
    surrounding people to them are now mostly Nazis too.


    Russia now is saying they never offered Iran to accept zero
    enrichment.. I REMEMBER Lavrov saying it! Suggesting it at least. And
    he had added the 3.5% enrichment can be done by Russia and given to
    Iran so Iran does not need to enrich it herself. I even cursed that
    old Bitch of USA in my mind. Could be that I said it loud too and my
    cats heard them! .. :-(

    It was just a week or 10 days back.


    Araghchi, meanwhile, is giving the Nazis bullshit in return to their
    bullshit. They're now all talking bullshit :) Because nothing is
    there to talk about. Absolutely nothing.


    Again, authorities in Iran are telling people of certain areas not to
    mind if they hear very loud explosion bewtween such and such hours :)
    "We are doing military exercises." Hehe :) .. I bet you are.


    Whatever happened to the female pilot that was captured in Iran? I
    haven't heard anything about her. Could be that they took her to Evin
    prison to interrogate and that's why Israelis bombed that prison.

    Seventy something people got killed in that bombing. Some of them
    neighbors to the prison building.


    Turns out Pezeshkiyan suffered minor injury in Israeli bombing of the
    war meeting of the heads of the country during the 12 day war. Iran
    is now in a fully legal position to retaliate against Israeli heads
    of government.

    I think she will!.. They're talking about it high up in the
    government. They're also zeroing in on the culprit high up in the
    government who informed Israelis about such meetings. There aren't
    that many individuals that high up, so it is a relatively easy job to
    catch him or her.


    The latest poll conducted by Iran's most viewed news outlet indicates
    that 89% of Iranians want to have nuclear weapons. I don't think the
    Leader can ignore this.

    This is not a result that says the 11% against nukes are supporters
    of the Leader, but I think exactly the opposite: only the 11%
    opposition to this form of government do not accept nukes, because
    they are pro Israel and Pro USA.

    So the 89% of people is in fact the whole population of Iranians. The
    Leader cannot stay silent about this.






    I think we will soon find out who high up in Iran's government
    disclosed time and locations of secret gathering of top figures. And
    funny thing is that, although the word "coup" made and makes itself
    into one's mind from the first few hours of that war, nobody in the
    media is speaking of it.

    What is a coup then?

    Anyway, I think soon we'll know more about this cause those people
    cannot escape. None of the past coups, all conducted by USA in Iran
    after collapse of the previous regime, were successful, and the
    culprits were found and eliminated. There were at least 5 attempts.

    The highest probability, in my mind, is Rowhani himself. But that's
    just an informed guess.

    Very informed! This Rohani figure, from the first days after collapse
    of the previous regime in Iran, has been trying to backstab Iran. He
    is the one who, for instance, pressed very hard in the temporary
    parliament to totally dismantle Iran's military forces. If it wasn't
    for some of the best Iranians soon preventing that disaster, Iran
    _would_ lose the war with Iraq.

    If Rowhani is not a foreign spy, he is then certainly extremely stupid.

    But he is not alone. He has collaborators and these people's names
    will come up I think pretty soon. Just like the previous attempts.

    And I get the feeling that the coup figures are trying to hide behind
    excuses like, "smartphones in those people's pockets" were responsible
    for it. Or the use of "Whatsapp". Sure, but such things don't always
    work, especially several stories underneath the hills. And these
    secret places are chosen far from the entrances to them, all
    underground. But cellphones (and stupidities in those men to carry
    them) could very well have been used to track them as best as the
    enemy could.

    Israelis did bomb a very wide areas on the ground where entrances
    were. So there is a chance that all they knew was when and where the
    men had passed through the entrances.

    But a human link would work best. Better than any electronic way. Or a
    combined human and electronic scheme, like some "Rowhani" keep calling
    every one of them attending the war room from outside.

    A lot is being learned now, and a lot is still left to do. It is too
    soon to know for sure.

    One of the major operations against the government of Iran took about
    8 years to fully get investigated! .. But Iranians of today are better
    than those Iranians back then. An earlier enemy operation had taken 2
    years to completely get understood.








    Russians are insisting that they never suggested to Iran to accept the
    "zero enrichment" condition.

    And listen to this, then they proceed to repeat this, "We have always suggested to Iran that the only way toward the solution is via
    diplomatic negotiations."

    So that's where the "tail of the rooster" is sticking out from
    underneath Russia's clothing. They know what they're saying is bullshit,
    and they keep saying it, because they have nothing but bullshit to say
    about this matter. They're on Israel's side.

    In other words, Putin is saying that he cannot do a damn thing about
    this because interests of Israel in it is at the stake. Someone said a
    third of Israelis are Russians. This is no joke. Or was it 2/3rd?..


    An Indian source has mentioned that USA at this time can only produce 20 THAAD missiles a year, and they used up 4p THAAD missiles to knock off Iranian missiles on their way to targets. So in a matter of 11 days, to
    be exact, USA had to spend two years worth of THAAD missiles.

    Iran, on the other hand, has said that right before Israelis asked to
    stop the war, she had means left to continue this war "for about 8
    years."

    So if it doesn't get nuclear, Iran doesn't need Russia or anybody to win
    the war against Israel and USA (and Europe) both, using only
    conventional weapons. Time in such a war is strongly on Iran's side.

    But I think Iran must brace for a nuclear war and be prepared for it.
    This same Trump was advocating the use of nuclear weapons on Iraq 20
    years back. Iran _will_ be attacked by nukes, if she does not have
    enough deterrence.

    So obstacles on the way to openly build nukes cannot last long in Iran regardless of who they are who oppose it. Leader will oppose it? Leader
    will lose trust of Iranians and will fade away. Literally all Iranians
    are saying Iran should openly build them. Good times are over when 1100 Iranians give their lives for such stupidities and selfishness (or even treason). Nobody can install obstacles in their ways.

    Leader can go to Karbala, Iraq, and stand under the flag of Abbas and swiftly get killed by an American drone, if he really chooses so. But Iranians don't want to be martyrs; they are the real friends of Abbas,
    and yes, under the flag of Abbas, trying to stay alive just like Abbas,
    and continue his war as Abbas himself did. The times have changed. The distinction between where the Leader stands and where Iranians are, is
    now clear in the open, and therefore bullshit is over. Those loving to
    get martyred aren't collaborators of Abbas. They are defeatists. Iran
    cannot have that. Abbas couldn't have that either.

    You know I am not sure about the fourty virgins and the
    you can only go to heaven if you kill people, but nuclear
    weapons were designed to kill civilians in violation of
    the Hague Conventions of 1899 which banned killing civilians.

    You think there is even a remote possibility that this could
    get reversed?

    In other words, (Iran) submits to NNPT testing and verification,
    if (Israel) agrees to dismantle its nuclear arsenal and also submit
    to NNPT testing and verification?

    Or is this all about people wanting the 40 virgins in heaven?










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