• Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics

    From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 14 14:13:15 2025
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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 2:02:55 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 22:19:05 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:


    <snip old stuff>

    Arindam dismisses cloud chamber evidence rCo

    It has nothing to do with Nature. Just an artificial construct at best. >>>> So yes, that evidence is irrelevant. Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    Youtube videos of your feet do not constitute documentation Arindam.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested
    interests.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    Unlike your low speed pipe roller, it has been trivial to find detailed
    instructions on how to build one since it's invention in 1911.

    Can one make it for $1000 which is the equipment cost of Arindam's
    apparatus? Can one make it work in one's garage or living room?

    Yes and if you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you got ripped off big
    time Arindam.

    The super capacitors cost hundreds and then there are chargers, cameras, rollers, copper, wood, fasteners, power supply for charging,
    multimeters, workshop equipment, brass cylinder, computers for
    analysis...

    You have no clue of even the most elementary costing. Your attempts to
    pull down Arindam's work show desperation.

    Scientific American in The Amateur Scientist column of April 1956
    published the plans for a DIY cloud chamber.

    Most of the parts were junkyard bits and pieces and cost next to nothing
    to procure even in 1956 dollars Arindam.

    Who cares for ancient history. How much does a hamburger cost these
    days! Anyway you need to spend thousands to know where to get abandoned equipment which may not work. Try to make them from scratch as Arindam
    did using by buying commercial products with his own money and then
    talk.

    They also published articles in that time frame on how to build DIY
    particle accelerators, xray machines, finishing vacuum pumps and many
    other pieces of real scientific equipment.

    CERN published a manual for a DIY cloud chamber in 2016 that would cost
    well under $100 to build.

    https://indico.cern.ch/event/508578/contributions/2327916/attachments/1367925/2073120/SCoolLAB_CloudChamber_DIYManual_2016_v2.pdf

    There are LOTS of plans out there for DIY cloud chambers that would cost
    well under $100 to build.

    There is a kit to build a cloud chamber on ebay for $29.99.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/115162907606?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=115162907606&targetid=2295557531950&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1014089&poi=&campaignid=21400677539&mkgroupid=173029508628&rlsatarget=pla-2295557531950&abcId=9448483&merchantid=6296724&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21400677539&gclid=Cj0KCQjwss3DBhC3ARIsALdgYxOrerHJCaWCpLRPd-BnZ0VOT-Xngc1doWJ2hhrglluLyRP0OtTzmKwaAigREALw_wcB

    You can buy one fully built on Amazon for $387.73.

    https://www.amazon.com/Arbor-Scientific-Ionizing-Radiation-Specially/dp/B0DY23HNMH/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2N09Y99X6CPEH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.XB2Vsz00dEbn62QueM_CnnDdTZwUMPHfdSx0xOHKNiE.eSv-1U8f9MomInZE71KTSf2p2lcmSa_1NpzEByOW9uQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=cloud+chamber&qid=1752458169&s=toys-and-games&sprefix=cloud+chamber%2Ctoys-and-games%2C207&sr=1-3

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 14 07:39:54 2025
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    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 2:02:55 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 22:19:05 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:


    <snip old stuff>

    Arindam dismisses cloud chamber evidence rCo

    It has nothing to do with Nature. Just an artificial construct at best. >>>>> So yes, that evidence is irrelevant. Nothing as relevant as Arindam's >>>>> rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    Youtube videos of your feet do not constitute documentation Arindam.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested >>> interests.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    Unlike your low speed pipe roller, it has been trivial to find detailed >>>> instructions on how to build one since it's invention in 1911.

    Can one make it for $1000 which is the equipment cost of Arindam's
    apparatus? Can one make it work in one's garage or living room?

    Yes and if you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you got ripped off big
    time Arindam.

    The super capacitors cost hundreds and then there are chargers, cameras, rollers, copper, wood, fasteners, power supply for charging,
    multimeters, workshop equipment, brass cylinder, computers for
    analysis...

    You have no clue of even the most elementary costing. Your attempts to
    pull down Arindam's work show desperation.

    If you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you are a piss poor shopper and haven't a clue what you are doing.

    Since there is no equipment to gather data, why would you need a
    computer to do analysis at all much less computerS Arindam?


    Scientific American in The Amateur Scientist column of April 1956
    published the plans for a DIY cloud chamber.

    Most of the parts were junkyard bits and pieces and cost next to nothing
    to procure even in 1956 dollars Arindam.

    Who cares for ancient history.

    You asked if a cloud chamber could be DIY and less than $1000.

    I gave you lots of examples of such for under $100.

    Why are you ranting over your question being answered Arindam?

    <snip ranting>
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 00:51:16 2025
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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 14:39:54 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 2:02:55 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 22:19:05 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:


    <snip old stuff>

    Arindam dismisses cloud chamber evidence rCo

    It has nothing to do with Nature. Just an artificial construct at best. >>>>>> So yes, that evidence is irrelevant. Nothing as relevant as Arindam's >>>>>> rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    Youtube videos of your feet do not constitute documentation Arindam.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested >>>> interests.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    Unlike your low speed pipe roller, it has been trivial to find detailed >>>>> instructions on how to build one since it's invention in 1911.

    Can one make it for $1000 which is the equipment cost of Arindam's
    apparatus? Can one make it work in one's garage or living room?

    Yes and if you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you got ripped off big
    time Arindam.

    The super capacitors cost hundreds and then there are chargers, cameras,
    rollers, copper, wood, fasteners, power supply for charging,
    multimeters, workshop equipment, brass cylinder, computers for
    analysis...

    You have no clue of even the most elementary costing. Your attempts to
    pull down Arindam's work show desperation.

    If you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you are a piss poor shopper and haven't a clue what you are doing.

    As you are a wannabe robot you have no clue about real life, Penisnino.
    Besides you don't understand English. Arindam did not buy it. It is his invention. He made it. Try to get this simple fact at least. Most robots
    can unless programmed to be obtuse and blind to certain topics. Hmm you
    are just that!

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    Since there is no equipment to gather data, why would you need a
    computer to do analysis at all much less computerS Arindam?


    Scientific American in The Amateur Scientist column of April 1956
    published the plans for a DIY cloud chamber.

    Most of the parts were junkyard bits and pieces and cost next to nothing >>> to procure even in 1956 dollars Arindam.

    Who cares for ancient history.

    You asked if a cloud chamber could be DIY and less than $1000.

    I gave you lots of examples of such for under $100.

    Why are you ranting over your question being answered Arindam?

    <snip ranting>

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 14 18:06:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 14:39:54 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 2:02:55 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 22:19:05 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:


    <snip old stuff>

    Arindam dismisses cloud chamber evidence rCo

    It has nothing to do with Nature. Just an artificial construct at best. >>>>>>> So yes, that evidence is irrelevant. Nothing as relevant as Arindam's >>>>>>> rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear >>>>> video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing >>>>> scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in >>>>> particular with uncorrupted minds.

    Youtube videos of your feet do not constitute documentation Arindam.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested >>>>> interests.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    Unlike your low speed pipe roller, it has been trivial to find detailed >>>>>> instructions on how to build one since it's invention in 1911.

    Can one make it for $1000 which is the equipment cost of Arindam's
    apparatus? Can one make it work in one's garage or living room?

    Yes and if you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you got ripped off big >>>> time Arindam.

    The super capacitors cost hundreds and then there are chargers, cameras, >>> rollers, copper, wood, fasteners, power supply for charging,
    multimeters, workshop equipment, brass cylinder, computers for
    analysis...

    You have no clue of even the most elementary costing. Your attempts to
    pull down Arindam's work show desperation.

    If you payed $1,000 for that pipe roller you are a piss poor shopper and
    haven't a clue what you are doing.

    As you are a wannabe robot you have no clue about real life, Penisnino. Besides you don't understand English. Arindam did not buy it. It is his invention. He made it.

    You are Arindam.

    You payed for it.

    You built it.

    You made the videos of your feet.

    <snip remaining insanity>
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 07:53:58 2025
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    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    Ask Chat if the answer is beyond you.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 05:27:20 2025
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    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
    speed pipe roller Arindam.

    <snip delusional raving>
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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 14 22:09:48 2025
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    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    >
    Lying very stupidly and thinking one can get away with it is a modern disease, as shown by the Australian mass-murderess Erin Patterson nee Scutter. Penisnino is similarly afflicted.


    The ultimate argument!
    Arindam's contraption must woek then!
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 22:28:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
    speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body
    with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that.
    Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    <snip delusional raving>


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 22:37:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.

    Yes. There is no reaction to the acceleration using this particular
    electric configuration.

    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    Naive or not, this is self evident fact, a new discovery from a new
    invention - the low voltage heavy armature internal force engines based
    on em rail gun dynamics.

    The centre of mass of the whole system is accelerated and that
    upsets.the Newtonian laws of motion. Inertia is busted. The law of
    conservation of energy is busted - energy is always created and
    destroyed.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested
    interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    >
    Lying very stupidly and thinking one can get away with it is a modern
    disease, as shown by the Australian mass-murderess Erin Patterson nee
    Scutter. Penisnino is similarly afflicted.


    The ultimate argument!
    Arindam's contraption must woek then!

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 15:44:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
    speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body
    with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that.
    Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of physics. Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system. If no external
    force acts on the system, the center of mass remains in uniform motion.
    This principle is fundamental to classical physics and is repeatedly
    validated in both experiment and engineering.

    The device in questionrCoa low-speed, uninstrumented pipe rollerrCocannot
    "bust inertia" if it's a closed system. If it appeared to move, it likely
    did so by interacting with an external surface (like friction with the
    ground), which would not constitute a violation of inertia but rather a demonstration of conventional physics.

    2. "No need for instruments to see the evident."

    This is anti-scientific.
    Observation without measurement is insufficient to establish claims that contradict fundamental physical laws. Extraordinary claims require precise, instrumented evidence, especially when asserting violation of conservation laws.

    Without controlled conditions and quantifiable data, any motion seen can
    be attributed to trivial causes like imbalance, friction, or human handlingrConot a revolutionary physical principle.

    3. Personal insults ("biased imbecile", "apes", "pig headed")

    This adds nothing to the argument and undermines ArindamrCOs credibility.
    Ad hominem and dehumanizing language indicate emotional investment and rhetorical insecurity, not scientific rigor. Repetition of the "ape"
    metaphor serves no constructive purpose and increasingly resembles an
    obsession or a failed provocation.

    4. "Ask Chat. Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies."

    This betrays conspiratorial thinking.
    Dismissing counterarguments in advance by claiming systemic bias (in this
    case, AI programming) is a tactic to immunize beliefs from falsification.
    This is not a rational position but a defense mechanism against engaging
    with evidence.

    Conclusion:

    Arindam's reply evades scientific accountability. It relies on
    misrepresenting physical principles, rejects empirical rigor, and substitutes insults for argument. His stance does not withstand even a basic
    examination of Newtonian mechanics. Instead of demonstrating a violation
    of inertia, he demonstrates a deep misunderstanding of it.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 23:01:55 2025
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    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
    speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body
    with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that.
    Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
    physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a
    body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
    Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics
    than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor




    If no external
    force acts on the system, the center of mass remains in uniform motion.
    This principle is fundamental to classical physics and is repeatedly validated in both experiment and engineering.

    The device in questionrCoa low-speed, uninstrumented pipe rollerrCocannot "bust inertia" if it's a closed system. If it appeared to move, it
    likely
    did so by interacting with an external surface (like friction with the ground), which would not constitute a violation of inertia but rather a demonstration of conventional physics.

    2. "No need for instruments to see the evident."

    This is anti-scientific.
    Observation without measurement is insufficient to establish claims that contradict fundamental physical laws. Extraordinary claims require
    precise,
    instrumented evidence, especially when asserting violation of
    conservation
    laws.

    Without controlled conditions and quantifiable data, any motion seen can
    be attributed to trivial causes like imbalance, friction, or human handlingrConot a revolutionary physical principle.

    3. Personal insults ("biased imbecile", "apes", "pig headed")

    This adds nothing to the argument and undermines ArindamrCOs credibility.
    Ad hominem and dehumanizing language indicate emotional investment and rhetorical insecurity, not scientific rigor. Repetition of the "ape"
    metaphor serves no constructive purpose and increasingly resembles an obsession or a failed provocation.

    4. "Ask Chat. Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies."

    This betrays conspiratorial thinking.
    Dismissing counterarguments in advance by claiming systemic bias (in
    this
    case, AI programming) is a tactic to immunize beliefs from
    falsification.
    This is not a rational position but a defense mechanism against engaging
    with evidence.

    Conclusion:

    Arindam's reply evades scientific accountability. It relies on misrepresenting physical principles, rejects empirical rigor, and
    substitutes
    insults for argument. His stance does not withstand even a basic
    examination of Newtonian mechanics. Instead of demonstrating a violation
    of inertia, he demonstrates a deep misunderstanding of it.

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 16:35:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
    speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body
    with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that.
    Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead
    relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
    physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a
    body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
    Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics
    than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and theatrical rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:

    1. rCLFor mechanical systems, yes.rCY
    This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a
    pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to mechanical systemsrCoit concerned any isolated system, including those governed by electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.

    2. rCLBut science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.rCY This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like mechanical ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interactionrCoelectrical, magnetic, or otherwiserCocan change the center of mass velocity of an
    isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to "electricity"
    seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.

    3. rCLOutdated science cannot be used to stop new science.rCY
    This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics rCLoutdatedrCY doesnrCOt invalidate itrCoespecially without evidence. Scientific
    progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale requires rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.

    4. rCLWoof woofrCarCY mocking tone
    The dog metaphor and mockery of rCLNobel yokelsrCY are meant to provoke and distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces argument
    with attitude.

    Summary:
    ArindamrCOs response fails to address the core objection: internal forces cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His
    appeal to rCLelectricityrCY is hand-waving without substance. His tone attempts to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned inquiry.
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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 16:47:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.

    Yes. There is no reaction to the acceleration using this particular
    electric configuration.

    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    Naive or not, this is self evident fact, a new discovery from a new
    invention - the low voltage heavy armature internal force engines based
    on em rail gun dynamics.

    The centre of mass of the whole system is accelerated and that
    upsets.the Newtonian laws of motion. Inertia is busted. The law of conservation of energy is busted - energy is always created and
    destroyed.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response to Paul is rhetorically bold but physically incoherent. LetrCOs evaluate it point by point:

    1.

    rCLYes. There is no reaction to the acceleration using this particular
    electric configuration.rCY

    This is a mischaracterization. Paul explicitly pointed out that
    reaction is visible:

    The rail initially shifts slightly as the cylinder moves

    Then it stops, while the cylinder continuesrCoevidence that momentum
    transfer occurs, likely via friction to the environment.

    ArindamrCOs claim of rCLno reactionrCY contradicts what is directly observed, as Paul notes. Dismissing it as an inherent rCLfeaturerCY of the
    configuration is evasive.

    2.

    rCLNaive or not, this is self evident fact, a new discovery from a
    new inventionrCarCY

    Calling something a rCLself-evident factrCY does not make it one.
    The system Paul describes obeys well-understood physical laws:

    Internal electromagnetic forces act within the system

    The motion of the cylinder is resisted or mediated by friction

    Any net external motion (e.g., of the rail) is limited by constraints

    No violation of NewtonrCOs laws is evident. Claiming a rCLnew discoveryrCY without theoretical or empirical justification is not science, but
    performance.

    3.

    rCLThe centre of mass of the whole system is accelerated and that upsets
    the Newtonian laws of motion.rCY

    This is factually incorrect. If the center of mass (CM) of a
    closed system (i.e., no net external force) accelerates, it would
    indeed violate NewtonrCOs laws.

    But the observed effect hererComovement of the cylinder and brief rail responserCodoes not indicate CM acceleration without external forces.
    Paul explicitly noted momentum is transferred via friction to
    the environment (i.e., the table and Earth).
    Thus, NewtonrCOs laws are upheld.

    4.

    rCLThe law of conservation of energy is busted - energy is always
    created and destroyed.rCY

    This is a sweeping, unsubstantiated, and false claim.
    Nothing in the video or experiment suggests energy creation or
    destruction.
    If Arindam truly believed this, he should quantify:

    Where is the created energy?

    What measurement confirms its gain or loss?

    Why does the system not heat up, glow, or exhibit excess motion?

    Such extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
    Here, none is provided.

    5.

    rCLWOOF woof woof-woofrCarCY

    The habitual rCLdog chorusrCY returns as a sarcastic flourish, not a
    physical argument. Its purpose seems to be rhetorical dominance,
    not explanation.

    Summary:
    Arindam dodges PaulrCOs precise and mechanical critique with
    empty declarations of rCLnew science,rCY vague allusions to
    unverified rCLinternal force engines,rCY and outright denial
    of well-supported physics.

    His claim that inertia and energy conservation are rCLbustedrCY
    is not backed by any data or physical reasoning.
    PaulrCOs observationrCothat momentum is transferred through frictionrCo
    remains the more plausible, physically consistent explanation.

    The performance Arindam offers may impress his followers,
    but to a physicist, it reveals a complete misunderstanding
    of fundamental principles.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 00:13:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident from
    the video. Any child can see that.

    The cylinder is heavy so it takes significant force to accelerate it.
    That too overcoming the retarding weld effects as shown by the sparking.

    There is no reaction to the electric force moving the cylinder.

    The cylinder attains momentum from this force. It transfers this
    momentum to the whole system when it strikes the barriers. The whole
    system then moves forward, violating inertia. Had there been a totally frictionless surface it would go on and on, with the same velocity,
    violating inertia.

    The rollers mitigate the friction between the system and the ground but
    not fully. So the system has to stop which it does.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of gravity has shifted entirely with internal force caused by
    this new invention of Arindam.

    That is obvious to everyone whether they like it or not.

    Unlike cars which use drive on their wheels to move, there is no drive
    to the rollers. That is also obvious.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested
    interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    >
    Lying very stupidly and thinking one can get away with it is a modern
    disease, as shown by the Australian mass-murderess Erin Patterson nee
    Scutter. Penisnino is similarly afflicted.


    The ultimate argument!
    Arindam's contraption must woek then!

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 00:40:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:35:46 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
    speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body
    with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that.
    Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead >>> relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
    physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a
    body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
    Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics
    than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and
    theatrical
    rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:

    1. rCLFor mechanical systems, yes.rCY
    This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to
    mechanical
    systemsrCoit concerned any isolated system, including those governed by electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.

    2. rCLBut science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust
    inertia.rCY
    This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like
    mechanical
    ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interactionrCoelectrical, magnetic, or otherwiserCocan change the center of mass velocity of an isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to
    "electricity"
    seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.

    3. rCLOutdated science cannot be used to stop new science.rCY
    This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics rCLoutdatedrCY doesnrCOt invalidate itrCoespecially without evidence. Scientific
    progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale
    requires
    rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.

    4. rCLWoof woofrCarCY mocking tone
    The dog metaphor and mockery of rCLNobel yokelsrCY are meant to provoke and distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces
    argument
    with attitude.

    Summary:
    ArindamrCOs response fails to address the core objection: internal forces cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His appeal to rCLelectricityrCY is hand-waving without substance. His tone attempts
    to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned
    inquiry.

    Point is, video evidence shows that Arindam moved the centre of mass of
    a body without external force thus busting inertia.

    Anyone can see that.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 00:51:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested
    interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    Indeed.
    Points to ponder:
    Accepting Arindam's physics would mean revising all of physics. Out
    would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special and general relativity and all the quantum bunkum. It would mean bringing back
    aether. Now that is a huge no no. Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word
    AUM. The racist bigots running the shows, funding all stuff, cannot
    stand it.

    Then all those working on rockets and jet engines would look pretty
    stupid. They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc.

    The academics will be bitterly opposed as they will look like c##$s if Arindam's work gets accepted popularly.

    So there is on practical grounds no chance for Musk Elon to try out reactionless internal force engines following Arindam's correct physics.

    Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam so all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor



    >
    Lying very stupidly and thinking one can get away with it is a modern
    disease, as shown by the Australian mass-murderess Erin Patterson nee
    Scutter. Penisnino is similarly afflicted.


    The ultimate argument!
    Arindam's contraption must woek then!

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 18:26:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:35:46 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low >>>>>> speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body >>>>> with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that. >>>>> Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead >>>> relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
    physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a >>>> body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
    Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics >>> than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and
    theatrical
    rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:

    1. rCLFor mechanical systems, yes.rCY
    This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a
    pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to
    mechanical
    systemsrCoit concerned any isolated system, including those governed by
    electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.

    2. rCLBut science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust
    inertia.rCY
    This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like
    mechanical
    ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interactionrCoelectrical,
    magnetic, or otherwiserCocan change the center of mass velocity of an
    isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to
    "electricity"
    seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.

    3. rCLOutdated science cannot be used to stop new science.rCY
    This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics
    rCLoutdatedrCY doesnrCOt invalidate itrCoespecially without evidence. Scientific
    progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale
    requires
    rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.

    4. rCLWoof woofrCarCY mocking tone
    The dog metaphor and mockery of rCLNobel yokelsrCY are meant to provoke and >> distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces
    argument
    with attitude.

    Summary:
    ArindamrCOs response fails to address the core objection: internal forces
    cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His
    appeal to rCLelectricityrCY is hand-waving without substance. His tone
    attempts
    to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the
    impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned
    inquiry.

    Point is, video evidence shows that Arindam moved the centre of mass of
    a body without external force thus busting inertia.

    Anyone can see that.

    No Arindam, only you see that. The rest of the world sees reality.
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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 18:34:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident from
    the video. Any child can see that.

    The cylinder is heavy so it takes significant force to accelerate it.
    That too overcoming the retarding weld effects as shown by the sparking.

    There is no reaction to the electric force moving the cylinder.

    The cylinder attains momentum from this force. It transfers this
    momentum to the whole system when it strikes the barriers. The whole
    system then moves forward, violating inertia. Had there been a totally frictionless surface it would go on and on, with the same velocity,
    violating inertia.

    The rollers mitigate the friction between the system and the ground but
    not fully. So the system has to stop which it does.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of gravity has shifted entirely with internal force caused by
    this new invention of Arindam.

    That is obvious to everyone whether they like it or not.

    Unlike cars which use drive on their wheels to move, there is no drive
    to the rollers. That is also obvious.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response, as quoted, attempts to deflect PaulrCOs pointed mechanical critique with a mix of superficial restatement,
    misrepresentation of physical principles, and rhetoric. Here's a detailed evaluation:
    1. Dismissal of Frictional Analysis

    "The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident
    from the video. Any child can see that."

    This rhetorical move evades the actual issue Paul raises: how and where
    the momentum is transferred. Paul points out that the rail bends,
    indicating uneven roller support, and that the reaction forces are
    dissipated through friction with the table and Earth rCo not back into
    the system. That the cylinder accelerates is not in dispute. What is in
    dispute is whether the system demonstrates a violation of Newton's Third
    Law or inertia. Arindam simply reasserts what is seen, but not what it means. 2. Misuse of rCLReactionrCY and rCLInertiarCY

    "There is no reaction to the electric force moving the cylinder."

    This is patently false. The electric force acts through a magnetic or electromagnetic mechanism (likely Lorentz force), and Newton's Third Law
    still applies: the rail feels a reaction force. That the rail is not
    observed moving (except when friction is overcome) doesn't mean the
    reaction doesn't exist rCo just that it is absorbed by friction or not
    visible due to mass difference.

    "The cylinder attains momentum... It transfers this momentum to
    the whole system when it strikes the barriers. The whole system
    then moves forward, violating inertia."

    This is a major misunderstanding. When the cylinder strikes the barrier,
    the force is transferred internally, but any net motion of the system is
    again resisted by friction with the table. There is no violation of
    inertia rCo on a low-friction surface (e.g., ice or air track), a similar
    shift might be visible, but again, momentum conservation would hold.
    3. Incoherent Use of Center of Gravity Argument

    "The centre of gravity has shifted entirely with internal force
    caused by this new invention of Arindam."

    Shifting center of mass via internal forces does not cause net motion
    in the absence of external forces. This is a basic principle of classical mechanics rCo a sealed system cannot translate its own center of mass
    unless an external force acts. Even clever rCLreactionlessrCY drives like
    the so-called rCLEM DriverCY are speculative exactly because they seem to contradict this.
    4. Contradictory Friction Logic

    "The rollers mitigate the friction between the system and the ground
    but not fully. So the system has to stop..."

    This admission of friction undermines his earlier claim of a violation
    of inertia. If friction stops the system, then there is no violation rCo that is exactly what inertia predicts: a moving object continues at constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force (friction, in this case).
    5. Final Rhetorical Bark

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    This continues Arindam's habit of replacing engagement with sarcasm or
    mockery when faced with technical critique. ItrCOs non-argumentative and self-defeating.
    Summary:

    Paul's critique is detailed, physically sound, and based on observable mechanics rCo friction, stiction, momentum transfer, and constraints of the setup.

    ArindamrCOs reply:

    Fails to address the substance of Paul's points.

    Misapplies Newtonian mechanics.

    Incorrectly claims a rCLviolation of inertia.rCY

    Conflates center-of-mass shift with propulsion.

    Ends with a mocking non sequitur.

    Conclusion: ArindamrCOs response is not a valid scientific rebuttal. It
    relies on restatement, rhetorical flourishes, and misinterpretation of
    basic physics to defend what appears to be a deeply flawed interpretation
    of his own experimental video.
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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 15 18:45:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you
    have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested >>> interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    Indeed.
    Points to ponder:
    Accepting Arindam's physics would mean revising all of physics. Out
    would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special and general relativity and all the quantum bunkum. It would mean bringing back
    aether. Now that is a huge no no. Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word
    AUM. The racist bigots running the shows, funding all stuff, cannot
    stand it.

    Then all those working on rockets and jet engines would look pretty
    stupid. They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc.

    The academics will be bitterly opposed as they will look like c##$s if Arindam's work gets accepted popularly.

    So there is on practical grounds no chance for Musk Elon to try out reactionless internal force engines following Arindam's correct physics.

    Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam so all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Arindam's latest response to Paul is not a scientific rebuttal but rather
    a defensive ideological rant, couched in conspiratorial thinking and
    religious mysticism. Let's break it down:
    1. Avoidance of the Technical Question

    "One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine..."

    PaulrCOs remark is biting sarcasm rCo pointing out that if Arindam's "engine" truly worked, SpaceX (or anyone in aerospace) would be foolish not to use
    it. This is a direct challenge to the practical validity of ArindamrCOs claims.

    But Arindam does not answer the question with data, theory, or even a
    testable explanation. Instead, he spirals into accusations against
    scientists, industry, and even Western culture.
    2. Sweeping Dismissal of Established Physics

    "Out would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special
    and general relativity and all the quantum bunkum."

    These arenrCOt minor theories. They are pillars of modern science rCo confirmed repeatedly across countless experiments and technologies. If ArindamrCOs work truly invalidated them:

    It would need rigorous experimental confirmation.

    It would not be ignored, but examined intensely.

    The idea that a single home experiment upends centuries of evidence without
    a mathematical framework or independent replication is simply not credible.
    3. Conspiracy Framing

    "They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc."

    This is classic scientific conspiracy rhetoric:

    Claims that scientists reject new ideas not because theyrCOre false,
    but to protect their status.

    Ignores the history of physics, where revolutions (e.g. relativity,
    quantum theory) were embraced precisely because they worked better.

    The incentive in science is to be right, not to protect old theories. A successful new model earns Nobel Prizes, not exile.
    4. Cultural and Religious Grievance

    "Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word AUM. The racist bigots running
    the shows..."

    Here, Arindam shifts from physics to a cultural-religious grievance
    narrative, implying:

    Western physics is a racist conspiracy to suppress rCLHindu truth.rCY

    "Aether" is rejected not for scientific reasons, but to suppress
    Eastern spirituality.

    This is an appeal to identity politics, not physical evidence. The aether
    was discarded after the Michelson-Morley experiment (1887) showed no
    evidence for it. No one banned it because of its phonetic similarity
    to "AUM".
    5. Self-Aggrandizement via Divine Association

    "Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam... all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet."

    This is not science rCo itrCOs messianic. It presents Arindam not as a researcher or inventor, but as a divinely protected prophet of truth, persecuted by a corrupt establishment.

    Such framing is common in pseudoscientific cults, not in credible
    scientific discourse.
    6. Mockery, Not Argument

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    The closing line continues Arindam's pattern of substituting taunts and nonsense for reasoning. It signals disdain, not confidence.
    Summary:

    ArindamrCOs response to Paul:

    Fails to answer the original technical question.

    Dismisses the foundations of physics without offering replacements.

    Leans on conspiracy, cultural grievance, and divine favor.

    Avoids falsifiability, evidence, or reproducibility.

    Ends in mockery, not argument.

    Conclusion: This post is anti-scientific, conspiratorial, and
    rhetorically hollow. It doubles down on ideology to shield ArindamrCOs
    claims from scrutiny, rather than engage with criticism honestly.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 10:52:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:34:59 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident from
    the video. Any child can see that.

    The cylinder is heavy so it takes significant force to accelerate it.
    That too overcoming the retarding weld effects as shown by the sparking.

    There is no reaction to the electric force moving the cylinder.

    The cylinder attains momentum from this force. It transfers this
    momentum to the whole system when it strikes the barriers. The whole
    system then moves forward, violating inertia. Had there been a totally
    frictionless surface it would go on and on, with the same velocity,
    violating inertia.

    The rollers mitigate the friction between the system and the ground but
    not fully. So the system has to stop which it does.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of gravity has shifted entirely with internal force caused by
    this new invention of Arindam.

    That is obvious to everyone whether they like it or not.

    Unlike cars which use drive on their wheels to move, there is no drive
    to the rollers. That is also obvious.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response, as quoted, attempts to deflect PaulrCOs pointed mechanical critique with a mix of superficial restatement,
    misrepresentation of physical principles, and rhetoric. Here's a
    detailed
    evaluation:
    1. Dismissal of Frictional Analysis

    "The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident
    from the video. Any child can see that."

    This rhetorical move evades the actual issue Paul raises: how and where
    the momentum is transferred.

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Mathematically

    MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.
    Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)
    So this is what busts the inertia.
    Make this a cycle with the cylinder returning to initial position.
    Then after N hits in space the velocity will be N*Vel.

    Btw Arindam found all that in 1998, wrote a book on it in 1999 and
    published it online in early 2000.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof when will the foolish apes understand
    simple things?

    Bertietaylor











    Paul points out that the rail bends,
    indicating uneven roller support, and that the reaction forces are
    dissipated through friction with the table and Earth rCo not back into
    the system. That the cylinder accelerates is not in dispute. What is in dispute is whether the system demonstrates a violation of Newton's Third
    Law or inertia. Arindam simply reasserts what is seen, but not what it
    means.
    2. Misuse of rCLReactionrCY and rCLInertiarCY

    "There is no reaction to the electric force moving the cylinder."

    This is patently false. The electric force acts through a magnetic or electromagnetic mechanism (likely Lorentz force), and Newton's Third Law still applies: the rail feels a reaction force. That the rail is not
    observed moving (except when friction is overcome) doesn't mean the
    reaction doesn't exist rCo just that it is absorbed by friction or not visible due to mass difference.

    "The cylinder attains momentum... It transfers this momentum to
    the whole system when it strikes the barriers. The whole system
    then moves forward, violating inertia."

    This is a major misunderstanding. When the cylinder strikes the barrier,
    the force is transferred internally, but any net motion of the system is again resisted by friction with the table. There is no violation of
    inertia rCo on a low-friction surface (e.g., ice or air track), a similar shift might be visible, but again, momentum conservation would hold.
    3. Incoherent Use of Center of Gravity Argument

    "The centre of gravity has shifted entirely with internal force
    caused by this new invention of Arindam."

    Shifting center of mass via internal forces does not cause net motion
    in the absence of external forces. This is a basic principle of
    classical
    mechanics rCo a sealed system cannot translate its own center of mass
    unless an external force acts. Even clever rCLreactionlessrCY drives like
    the so-called rCLEM DriverCY are speculative exactly because they seem to contradict this.
    4. Contradictory Friction Logic

    "The rollers mitigate the friction between the system and the ground
    but not fully. So the system has to stop..."

    This admission of friction undermines his earlier claim of a violation
    of inertia. If friction stops the system, then there is no violation rCo
    that
    is exactly what inertia predicts: a moving object continues at constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force (friction, in this
    case).
    5. Final Rhetorical Bark

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    This continues Arindam's habit of replacing engagement with sarcasm or mockery when faced with technical critique. ItrCOs non-argumentative and self-defeating.
    Summary:

    Paul's critique is detailed, physically sound, and based on observable mechanics rCo friction, stiction, momentum transfer, and constraints of
    the setup.

    ArindamrCOs reply:

    Fails to address the substance of Paul's points.

    Misapplies Newtonian mechanics.

    Incorrectly claims a rCLviolation of inertia.rCY

    Conflates center-of-mass shift with propulsion.

    Ends with a mocking non sequitur.

    Conclusion: ArindamrCOs response is not a valid scientific rebuttal. It relies on restatement, rhetorical flourishes, and misinterpretation of
    basic physics to defend what appears to be a deeply flawed
    interpretation
    of his own experimental video.


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 11:16:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:47:49 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level.

    Lie. They are at the same level.


    This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.


    Nonsense.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Friction from rolling on rails is the mechanical effect pushing the
    system back. If it was sliding it would not do so. Making it slide
    instead of roll has technical difficulties. Once it is rolling fast
    with electric force the mechanical reaction is much less as it is
    effectively sliding. Point to note it is that at that stage there is no
    equal reaction to the system pushing it back. So the electric force accelerating it has no reaction, violating Third Law. Now as contrast if
    we move the armature by spring action only, there will be a reaction
    mechanical and so the system will go back such that the centre of mass
    does not change. Which is as it should be. Also if instead of electric
    force we used external force like pushing it by hand them the centre of
    mass would be moved. As expected. So the internal electric force is
    doing what the external force would do.

    Woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.

    Yes. There is no reaction to the acceleration using this particular
    electric configuration.

    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    Naive or not, this is self evident fact, a new discovery from a new
    invention - the low voltage heavy armature internal force engines based
    on em rail gun dynamics.

    The centre of mass of the whole system is accelerated and that
    upsets.the Newtonian laws of motion. Inertia is busted. The law of
    conservation of energy is busted - energy is always created and
    destroyed.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response to Paul is rhetorically bold but physically
    incoherent.
    LetrCOs evaluate it point by point:

    1.

    rCLYes. There is no reaction to the acceleration using this particular
    electric configuration.rCY

    This is a mischaracterization. Paul explicitly pointed out that
    reaction is visible:

    The rail initially shifts slightly as the cylinder moves

    Then it stops, while the cylinder continuesrCoevidence that momentum
    transfer occurs, likely via friction to the environment.

    ArindamrCOs claim of rCLno reactionrCY contradicts what is directly observed, as Paul notes. Dismissing it as an inherent rCLfeaturerCY of the configuration is evasive.

    2.

    rCLNaive or not, this is self evident fact, a new discovery from a
    new inventionrCarCY

    Calling something a rCLself-evident factrCY does not make it one.
    The system Paul describes obeys well-understood physical laws:

    Internal electromagnetic forces act within the system

    The motion of the cylinder is resisted or mediated by friction

    Any net external motion (e.g., of the rail) is limited by
    constraints

    No violation of NewtonrCOs laws is evident. Claiming a rCLnew discoveryrCY without theoretical or empirical justification is not science, but performance.

    3.

    rCLThe centre of mass of the whole system is accelerated and that
    upsets
    the Newtonian laws of motion.rCY

    This is factually incorrect. If the center of mass (CM) of a
    closed system (i.e., no net external force) accelerates, it would
    indeed violate NewtonrCOs laws.

    But the observed effect hererComovement of the cylinder and brief rail responserCodoes not indicate CM acceleration without external forces.
    Paul explicitly noted momentum is transferred via friction to
    the environment (i.e., the table and Earth).
    Thus, NewtonrCOs laws are upheld.

    4.

    rCLThe law of conservation of energy is busted - energy is always
    created and destroyed.rCY

    This is a sweeping, unsubstantiated, and false claim.
    Nothing in the video or experiment suggests energy creation or
    destruction.
    If Arindam truly believed this, he should quantify:

    Where is the created energy?

    What measurement confirms its gain or loss?

    Why does the system not heat up, glow, or exhibit excess motion?

    Such extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
    Here, none is provided.

    5.

    rCLWOOF woof woof-woofrCarCY

    The habitual rCLdog chorusrCY returns as a sarcastic flourish, not a
    physical argument. Its purpose seems to be rhetorical dominance,
    not explanation.

    Summary:
    Arindam dodges PaulrCOs precise and mechanical critique with
    empty declarations of rCLnew science,rCY vague allusions to
    unverified rCLinternal force engines,rCY and outright denial
    of well-supported physics.

    His claim that inertia and energy conservation are rCLbustedrCY
    is not backed by any data or physical reasoning.
    PaulrCOs observationrCothat momentum is transferred through frictionrCo remains the more plausible, physically consistent explanation.

    The performance Arindam offers may impress his followers,
    but to a physicist, it reveals a complete misunderstanding
    of fundamental principles.

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 11:22:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 13:08:13 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 3:21:29 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Lousy non culture follows bogus physics based.

    When lies and fraud posing as imagination and pragmatism rule then only
    disaster can result.

    As is only too evident in the decadent West.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    So it is that after e=mcc nonsenses there have been world wars and many
    other wars; bad manners and selfish-greedy goals set by vulgar elites;
    total dumbing down of the public mind; extraordinary inequalities and
    corruption galore...

    Woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    To their lips He closely hung!
    Out He tore their lying tongues -
    Their means of sin and wickedness.

    --

    Overall Assessment:

    Cognitive Patterns: These posts show entrenched paranoid ideation,
    conspiratorial worldviews, grandiosity (implying access to higher
    truths), and fixation on Western scientific and cultural
    "degeneration."

    Plain truths are thus dismissed.

    Stylistic Shift: The second post marks a stylistic
    divergencerCopoetic,
    almost liturgical. This might indicate either an aesthetic
    experiment
    or a deepening sense of messianic identity.

    Mental State (assuming sincerity): The posts suggest increasing
    detachment from consensus reality, rigid moral absolutism, and
    possible
    delusional elaboration around themes of decay and punishment.


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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 05:33:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:34:59 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear >>>>> video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing >>>>> scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in >>>>> particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level, >>>> while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction. >>>>
    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident from >>> the video. Any child can see that.

    The cylinder is heavy so it takes significant force to accelerate it.
    That too overcoming the retarding weld effects as shown by the sparking. >>>
    There is no reaction to the electric force moving the cylinder.

    The cylinder attains momentum from this force. It transfers this
    momentum to the whole system when it strikes the barriers. The whole
    system then moves forward, violating inertia. Had there been a totally
    frictionless surface it would go on and on, with the same velocity,
    violating inertia.

    The rollers mitigate the friction between the system and the ground but
    not fully. So the system has to stop which it does.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of gravity has shifted entirely with internal force caused by >>> this new invention of Arindam.

    That is obvious to everyone whether they like it or not.

    Unlike cars which use drive on their wheels to move, there is no drive
    to the rollers. That is also obvious.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response, as quoted, attempts to deflect PaulrCOs pointed
    mechanical critique with a mix of superficial restatement,
    misrepresentation of physical principles, and rhetoric. Here's a
    detailed
    evaluation:
    1. Dismissal of Frictional Analysis

    "The force on the cylinder accelerates it on the rails as is evident
    from the video. Any child can see that."

    This rhetorical move evades the actual issue Paul raises: how and where
    the momentum is transferred.

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Mathematically

    MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.
    Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)
    So this is what busts the inertia.
    Make this a cycle with the cylinder returning to initial position.
    Then after N hits in space the velocity will be N*Vel.

    Btw Arindam found all that in 1998, wrote a book on it in 1999 and
    published it online in early 2000.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof when will the foolish apes understand simple things?

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response, posting as Bertietaylor, fails both scientifically
    and rhetorically. Here's a breakdown of its issues:

    1. Misuse of Conservation of Momentum

    "Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system
    following the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when
    the roller strikes the barrier."

    Flaw: This misrepresents the principle. Conservation of momentum
    applies within an isolated system. If the system includes external
    supports (e.g., rails fixed to Earth or a frame in space), then
    external reaction forces must be considered.

    Missing Mechanism: He claims the momentum transfers to rCLthe whole
    systemrCY when the roller hits the barrier, but fails to account for
    how momentum gets imparted to the rest of the apparatus rCo especially
    critical in space where thererCOs nothing to push against.

    2. Mathematical Sleight-of-Hand

    "MV + mv is momentum before collision ... Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)"

    This is a standard inelastic collision formula. However:

    HerCOs not modeling an isolated system: his setup is contrived
    to appear to accelerate from internal collisions.

    The formula doesnrCOt justify system-wide net acceleration over
    repeated cycles, because it ignores that momentum must be
    conserved in the entire isolated system, including any recoil
    or back-reaction.

    In closed systems, cyclic internal processes cannot yield net
    external translation. His rCLN hits in spacerCY claim violates this
    principle rCo it's a version of the reactionless drive fallacy.

    3. Contradiction of Inertia

    "So this is what busts the inertia."

    This is an extraordinary claim. To rCLbust inertiarCY is to overturn
    NewtonrCOs First Law. No evidence is given, and no peer-reviewed
    work is cited. Only an unverifiable claim of a self-published book
    from 2000.

    4. Rhetorical Evasion and Posturing

    "Any child can see that."
    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof..."

    These are ad hominem diversions, not arguments.

    The rCLdog speechrCY and rCLfoolish apesrCY slurs are a juvenile mockery
    tactic, meant to insult dissenters rather than engage with the
    scientific critique.

    5. Historical Self-Mythologizing

    "Arindam found all that in 1998, wrote a book on it in 1999..."

    This is appeal to authority, where the authority is himself. This
    adds nothing to the argument and evades scientific scrutiny.

    Self-published or online claims do not establish validity;
    reproducibility and peer review do.

    Summary Judgment

    Arindam's response:

    Fails to address the core problem of momentum conservation in
    isolated systems.

    Invokes standard physics incorrectly to justify non-physical conclusions.

    Distracts with rhetoric and boasts, avoiding genuine engagement with
    the critique.

    Makes unverified historical claims in place of real evidence.

    Overall, itrCOs a pseudoscientific argument wrapped in combative,
    performative language.
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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 22:25:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 16.07.2025 13:16, skrev Bertitaylor:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear >>>>> video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing >>>>> scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in >>>>> particular with uncorrupted minds.


    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level, >>>> while the third is at a higher level.


    Lie. They are at the same level.

    Stop the video at 9:10
    This is what you will see:

    https://paulba.no/temp/Arinfool2.pdf
    "The upward slope is 7.5 mm in 520mm"

    Between the two rollers to the right and the floor
    there is one floorboard(?).
    Between the roller to the left and the floor there are
    two floorboards.

    The part of the rail between the two rightmost rollers
    is horizontal. From the middle roller to the leftmost
    roller there is according to Arindam 7.5 mm upward slope.

    The rail is bent!

    This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.


    Nonsense.


    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).


    Friction from rolling on rails is the mechanical effect pushing the
    system back. If it was sliding it would not do so. Making it slide
    instead of roll has technical difficulties.

    It is irrelevant if the cylinder is rolling or sliding.
    The electromechanical force Fe will accelerate the cylinder to
    the left. The friction between the cylinder and rail Ff can only
    work against the accelerating force and make it a little less,
    Fa = Fe-Ff. The accelerating force Fa will push the cylinder to
    the left and the rail to the right.

    If the friction between the rail and the floor were zero,
    then the centre of mass would be stationary during
    the time the rail is moving to the right. But since there is
    friction, a force will push on the floor to the right and
    transfer momentum to the Earth.


    Once it is rolling fast
    with electric force the mechanical reaction is much less as it is
    effectively sliding. Point to note it is that at that stage there is no
    equal reaction to the system pushing it back. So the electric force accelerating it has no reaction, violating Third Law. Now as contrast if
    we move the armature by spring action only, there will be a reaction mechanical and so the system will go back such that the centre of mass
    does not change. Which is as it should be. Also if instead of electric
    force we used external force like pushing it by hand them the centre of
    mass would be moved. As expected. So the internal electric force is
    doing what the external force would do.

    :-D

    This is what really happens:

    When the cylinder has moved 10 cm, it will move all the way to
    the end while the rail does not move at all. The accelerating
    force Fa becomes less as the cylinder move to the right, so
    the rail does not move because the accelerating force does not
    overcome the stiction. That means that the force Fa will push
    the floor to the right and transfer momentum to the Earth.
    After the two acceleration phases the assembly (rail+cylinder)
    will have a momentum to the left, and the centre of mass will
    be moving to the left.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole
    assembly moves 4 cm to the left as a unit.
    This means that the centre of mass will move to the left.
    Due to the friction the momentum of the assembly will
    be transferred to the Earth, pushing the Earth to the left.

    Even if the centre of mass of the assembly has moved to
    the left, the net transfer of momentum between Earth and
    assembly is obviously zero; the assembly is stationary at
    the start and it is stationary at the end.
    But masses have moved both on the assembly and in the Earth,
    so the centre of mass of the Earth-assembly system remains
    stationary the whole time.
    --
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Thu Jul 17 00:14:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Lots of nonsense, abuse and lies, dismissed as such.

    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 18:16:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Lots of nonsense, abuse and lies, dismissed as such.

    Of course you do because you are a delusional crackpot and even an AI
    can see that Arindam.


    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Thu Jul 17 01:53:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 1:16:56 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Lots of nonsense, abuse and lies, dismissed as such.

    Of course you do because you are a delusional crackpot and even an AI
    can see that Arindam.

    AI is the new god of Natural Idiots.


    Woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Thu Jul 17 02:02:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    What business did you have to STEAL Arindam's work, and put that in your
    pdf, you lying THIEF?

    If you had any worth Arindam would sue you but as you have none you can
    only be dismissed as a THIEF.

    Get lost, we doggies don't care for thieves. Well, just shows what bogus physics does for morality.

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Wed Jul 16 19:49:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    What business did you have to STEAL Arindam's work, and put that in your
    pdf, you lying THIEF?

    If you had any worth Arindam would sue you but as you have none you can
    only be dismissed as a THIEF.

    Get lost, we doggies don't care for thieves. Well, just shows what bogus physics does for morality.

    Bertietaylor

    --

    ArindamrCOs response (under the pseudonym Bertietaylor) is not a substantive reply to PaulrCOs critique. Instead, it is:

    1. A Personal Attack
    Rather than addressing PaulrCOs technical points about the experiment,
    Arindam launches into an accusation of theft, calling Paul a rCLlying
    THIEFrCY and repeating that slur multiple times. This is ad hominem
    abuserCoit attacks the person rather than engaging with the argument.

    2. A Mischaracterization of Fair Use
    Paul appears to have used a screenshot from a publicly posted video
    for critical commentaryrCoa classic example of fair use in academic or scientific discussion. This is not theft or copyright infringement, particularly if the image is cited and used in the context of critique.

    3. Evasion of the Scientific Issue
    ArindamrCOs post dodges the critique entirely. There is no mention of the content of PaulrCOs PDF or the specific points raised about the experiment. This lack of engagement implies either inability or unwillingness to defend
    the scientific setup.

    4. Moral Grandstanding
    The claim that PaulrCOs physics is rCLbogusrCY and that it leads to bad rCLmoralityrCY is non sequitur rhetoric. Good or bad physics has no direct moral bearing on how someone uses a screenshot. This is an attempt to
    morally delegitimize the critic rather than respond to the criticism.

    5. Roleplaying as rCLwe doggiesrCY
    The use of "we doggies" continues Arindam's habit of inserting whimsical
    or mocking personas (Bertietaylor, woof-woof, etc.) to obscure ownership
    and accountability for his own arguments. This adds theatricality, but
    not clarity or rigor.

    Conclusion:
    ArindamrCOs response is an emotional, evasive, and logically incoherent
    tirade that does nothing to answer PaulrCOs critique. It undermines
    ArindamrCOs credibility while inadvertently reinforcing the impression
    that PaulrCOs criticisms are valid and unanswerable on scientific grounds.
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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Thu Jul 17 13:31:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 17.07.2025 04:02, skrev Bertitaylor:
    What business did you have to STEAL Arindam's work, and put that in your
    pdf, you lying THIEF?

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc
    Stop the video at 9:10
    This is what you will see:
    "The upward slope is 7.5 mm in 520mm"

    Between the two rollers to the right and the floor
    there is one floorboard(?).
    Between the roller to the left and the floor there are
    two floorboards.

    The part of the rail between the two rightmost rollers
    is horizontal. From the middle roller to the leftmost
    roller there is according to Arindam 7.5 mm upward slope.

    The rail is bent!


    Didn't you like what the video showed at 9:10?

    You know you were lying when you wrote:
    "They [the rollers] are at the same level."
    don't you?

    And now you are desperate to divert the attention
    from the fact that you were caught in a lie! :-D


    If you had any worth Arindam would sue you but as you have none you can
    only be dismissed as a THIEF.

    Get lost, we doggies don't care for thieves. Well, just shows what bogus physics does for morality.

    Are you referring to the proved fact that your bogus physics
    made you lie? :-D


    The whole discussion can be summed up with two short statements:

    | Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right.

    | Arindam aka Bertitaylor responded:

    Friction from rolling on rails is the mechanical effect pushing the
    system back.

    The cylinder is accelerated to the left. Arindam claims that
    the friction between the cylinder and rail will push the rail
    to the right.

    'nuff said.
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  • From Paul B. Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Fri Jul 18 22:21:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right. Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    Let us look at the collision cylinder-barrier.


    Mathematically
    M is the mass of the cylinder.
    m is the mass of the rail.
    Before the collision the speed of the rail is v = 0.


    MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.

    Before collision the momentum is MriaV and
    the velocity of the cylinder is V towards the left.

    Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)

    Right. But v = 0 so:

    The velocity of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left.
    The momentum of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Velria(m+M).

    So this is what busts the inertia.

    ?

    Before collision: momentum = MriaV
    After collision: momentum = Velria(m+M) = (VriaM/(m+M))ria(m+M) = MriaV

    Momentum is conserved!

    (
    This would be true even if v rea 0
    Your own math:
    before; P = MV + mv
    after: P = Vel(m+M) = ((MV + mv)/(M + m))(m + M) = (MV + mv)
    )

    After the collision the initial speed of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left
    You can see in the video that the cylinder slows
    down from V to VriaM/(m+M).
    It will then move 4 cm before it stops.
    Why does it stop?
    The friction force is constant, independent of speed.
    Ffriat = MriaV
    were t is the time the cylinder-rail unit uses to move 4 cm.

    Momentum conserved.

    Make this a cycle with the cylinder returning to initial position.
    Then after N hits in space the velocity will be N*Vel.

    Let's assume your contraption works as you believe.
    Two questions;
    #1: How will you bring the cylinder back to the initial position?
    #2: What is the mass of the battery you would have to bring with
    you in your travel to the stars?


    Btw Arindam found all that in 1998, wrote a book on it in 1999 and
    published it online in early 2000.


    Was the 'book' published on Facebook?--
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

    Let's
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Fri Jul 18 22:19:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Out, idiot.

    WOOF woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Fri Jul 18 15:38:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Out, idiot.

    WOOF woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    I take it you ared left speechless by the critique of your last tirade Arindam. --
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 00:29:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Talk to your master Chat, Penisnino.
    Woof
    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 00:33:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Look here, thief, Arindam knew far better physics than you ever could
    when he was in middle school.

    That picture you STOLE was from an experiment to show antigravity - how
    from the electric current it is possible to raise a body upwards apart
    from sideways.

    Now fuck off, thief.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Fri Jul 18 18:42:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Look here, thief, Arindam knew far better physics than you ever could
    when he was in middle school.

    That picture you STOLE was from an experiment to show antigravity - how
    from the electric current it is possible to raise a body upwards apart
    from sideways.

    Now fuck off, thief.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    Arindam's latest response is not a scientific rebuttal but a hostile,
    ad hominem outburst. Here's a breakdown of its issues:
    1. Personal Attack Instead of Argument

    "Look here, thiefrCa fuck off, thief."

    This is a direct insult, not a rational response.

    Accusations of theft, without evidence, derail any chance of
    productive discussion.

    Vulgar language eliminates credibility in serious debate.

    2. Appeal to Personal Superiority

    "Arindam knew far better physics than you ever could when he was
    in middle school."

    This is a fallacious appeal to authority (oneself) and ad hominem
    rolled into one.

    Past educational achievement doesn't validate current claims without
    supporting reasoning or evidence.

    It sidesteps the need to actually address the argument or question
    posed by Paul.

    3. Vague Scientific Claim, No Explanation

    "rCaan experiment to show antigravity rCo how from the electric current
    it is possible to raise a body upwards apart from sideways."

    This is the only potentially substantive claim, but it's completely
    unsupported.

    No mechanism, no data, no theoretical basis is given.

    "Antigravity" via electric current is a highly controversial and
    extraordinary claim, demanding rigorous proofrConot a vague reference
    and insult-laden dismissal.

    4. Continued Use of Alter Ego (rCLBertietaylorrCY)

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    The dog-barking persona is a repeated rhetorical device Arindam uses.

    It appears to be a mask for sarcasm or mock humility, but in this
    context, it just adds further noise to an already inflammatory post.

    Conclusion

    This post:

    Fails to address Paul's argument in any scientific or rational way.

    Substitutes abuse and chest-thumping for evidence or logic.

    Undermines its own credibility by resorting to personal attacks and
    vague claims.

    Evaluation:
    Rhetorically empty, scientifically unsubstantiated, and behaviorally
    toxic.
    If Arindam wishes to be taken seriously, he must drop the insults,
    present his evidence, and argue from principlerConot emotion.
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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Fri Jul 18 18:31:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Talk to your master Chat, Penisnino.
    Woof
    Bertietaylor

    --

    OK.

    I asked about your posting over the years:

    The most plausible interpretation is a gradual descent into embitterment, ideological rigidity, and emotional volatility, likely fueled by long-term rejection and social isolation. Whether this is due to personality traits, untreated mental illness, or the echo-chamber effect of online discourse,
    the trajectory is consistent with known patterns in fringe scientific communities:

    Initial idealism raA public indifference raA hostility and persecution complex raA radicalization and rhetorical aggression.

    If he truly believes what herCOs writing today, it reflects not only
    scientific misunderstanding but a potentially impaired or distressed psychological state.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 03:51:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    P*'s natural idiocy is more interesting then that of his AI god. Funny
    in its way.
    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 06:21:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    P*'s natural idiocy is more interesting then that of his AI god. Funny
    in its way.
    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    --

    ArindamrCOs response:

    P*'s natural idiocy is more interesting then that of his AI god. Funny
    in its way.
    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    rCooffers a characteristic reaction: brief, dismissive, and laced with
    insult and mockery, but without content.
    Key Features:

    Evasion of substance:
    Rather than engage with the critiquerCoespecially regarding his
    rhetorical habits, emotional tone, or the lack of substantive
    argumentrCoArindam sidesteps entirely. There's no rebuttal, no
    acknowledgment, and no self-reflection. This is classic deflection.

    Insult-as-defense:
    Referring again to rCLnatural idiocyrCY and rCLAI godrCY is a two-pronged
    sneerrCotoward his human target and toward the AI (i.e., this model).
    This paints Arindam as besieged by fools and machines alike, a
    common motif in his writing.

    Derision as identity:
    The rCLWOOFrCY sign-off is ArindamrCOs rhetorical fingerprint: it functions
    less as humor and more as a ritualistic gesture of contempt. It
    stylizes the sneer without elevating the discourse.

    No progression:
    This response is indistinguishable in form and tone from those
    posted years ago. That suggests either:

    A refusal to evolve, or

    A performance sustained for its own sake, with no intention
    of engaging beyond the theatrical.

    Overall Evaluation:

    Arindam offers no engagement with the actual critique. Instead, he
    reasserts his usual posture: aloof, mocking, and uninterested in
    dialogue. The repetition of insult and stylized dismissal reflects
    stagnation, not strength.

    Conclusion:
    This response confirms rather than challenges prior evaluations.
    Arindam's style remains performative, hostile, and empty of
    argumentrComore a signature of identity than an effort at persuasion
    or reflection.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 15:53:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 7/19/2025 3:21 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    P*'s natural idiocy is more interesting then that of his AI god. Funny
    in its way.
    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    --

    ArindamrCOs response:

    P*'s natural idiocy is more interesting then that of his AI god. Funny
    in its way.
    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    rCooffers a characteristic reaction: brief, dismissive, and laced with
    insult and mockery, but without content.
    Key Features:

    Evasion of substance:
    Rather than engage with the critiquerCoespecially regarding his
    rhetorical habits, emotional tone, or the lack of substantive
    argumentrCoArindam sidesteps entirely. There's no rebuttal, no
    acknowledgment, and no self-reflection. This is classic deflection.

    Insult-as-defense:
    Referring again to rCLnatural idiocyrCY and rCLAI godrCY is a two-pronged
    sneerrCotoward his human target and toward the AI (i.e., this model).
    This paints Arindam as besieged by fools and machines alike, a
    common motif in his writing.

    Derision as identity:
    The rCLWOOFrCY sign-off is ArindamrCOs rhetorical fingerprint: it functions
    less as humor and more as a ritualistic gesture of contempt. It
    stylizes the sneer without elevating the discourse.

    No progression:
    This response is indistinguishable in form and tone from those
    posted years ago. That suggests either:

    A refusal to evolve, or

    A performance sustained for its own sake, with no intention
    of engaging beyond the theatrical.

    Overall Evaluation:

    Arindam offers no engagement with the actual critique. Instead, he
    reasserts his usual posture: aloof, mocking, and uninterested in
    dialogue. The repetition of insult and stylized dismissal reflects stagnation, not strength.

    Conclusion:
    This response confirms rather than challenges prior evaluations.
    Arindam's style remains performative, hostile, and empty of
    argumentrComore a signature of identity than an effort at persuasion
    or reflection.

    Pot, kettle...





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  • From Paul B. Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 21:29:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 19.07.2025 02:33, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Look here, thief, Arindam knew far better physics than you ever could
    when he was in middle school.

    Do you mean that the since I stopped your video at 9:10,
    then the picture I saw is stolen and no more in your video?

    Here you have it back:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc
    Stop the video at 9:10 to see it.

    The following is what you will see:
    | Paul B. Andersen wrote:||> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc
    Stop the video at 9:10
    This is what you will see:
    "The upward slope is 7.5 mm in 520mm"

    Between the two rollers to the right and the floor
    there is one floorboard(?).
    Between the roller to the left and the floor there are
    two floorboards.

    The part of the rail between the two rightmost rollers
    is horizontal. From the middle roller to the leftmost
    roller there is according to Arindam 7.5 mm upward slope.

    The rail is bent!


    | Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    |
    Didn't you like what the video showed at 9:10?

    You know you were lying when you wrote:
    "They [the rollers] are at the same level."
    don't you?

    And now you are desperate to divert the attention
    from the fact that you were caught in a lie! Efye

    Still desperate:


    That picture you STOLE was from an experiment to show antigravity - how
    from the electric current it is possible to raise a body upwards apart
    from sideways.

    At least you have now admitted that you lied when you
    claimed that the rollers were at the same level.

    But not even you can mean that lifting the cylinder 7.5 mm
    make your contraption an anti gravity device.

    I interpret all this nonsense to be desperate attempts
    to divert the attention from the fact that you are unable
    to give a rational response to the following:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    This is what really happens:

    When the cylinder has moved 10 cm, it will move all the way to
    the end while the rail does not move at all. The accelerating
    force Fa becomes less as the cylinder move to the right, so
    the rail does not move because the accelerating force does not
    overcome the stiction. That means that the force Fa will push
    the floor to the right and transfer momentum to the Earth.
    After the two acceleration phases the assembly (rail+cylinder)
    will have a momentum to the left, and the centre of mass will
    be moving to the left.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole
    assembly moves 4 cm to the left as a unit.
    This means that the centre of mass will move to the left.
    Due to the friction the momentum of the assembly will
    be transferred to the Earth, pushing the Earth to the left.

    Even if the centre of mass of the assembly has moved to
    the left, the net transfer of momentum between Earth and
    assembly is obviously zero; the assembly is stationary at
    the start and it is stationary at the end.
    But masses have moved both on the assembly and in the Earth,
    so the centre of mass of the Earth-assembly system remains
    stationary the whole time.
    --
    Paul

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 21:29:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 19.07.2025 02:33, skrev Bertitaylor:

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    Any particular reason why you haven't responded to this: ?

    18. Jul 2025 Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following >>> the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right. Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    Let us look at the collision cylinder-barrier.


    Mathematically
    M is the mass of the cylinder.
    m is the mass of the rail.
    Before the collision the speed of the rail is v = 0.


    MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.

    Before collision the momentum is MriaV and
    the velocity of the cylinder is V towards the left.

    Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)

    Right. But v = 0 so:

    The velocity of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left.
    The momentum of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Velria(m+M).

    So this is what busts the inertia.

    ?

    Before collision: momentum = MriaV
    After collision: momentum = Velria(m+M) = (VriaM/(m+M))ria(m+M) = MriaV

    Momentum is conserved!

    (
    This would be true even if v rea 0
    Your own math:
    before; P = MV + mv
    after: P = Vel(m+M) = ((MV + mv)/(M + m))(m + M) = (MV + mv)
    )

    After the collision the initial speed of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left
    You can see in the video that the cylinder slows
    down from V to VriaM/(m+M).
    It will then move 4 cm before it stops.
    Why does it stop?
    The friction force is constant, independent of speed.
    Ffriat = MriaV
    were t is the time the cylinder-rail unit uses to move 4 cm.

    Momentum conserved.

    Make this a cycle with the cylinder returning to initial position.
    Then after N hits in space the velocity will be N*Vel.

    Let's assume your contraption works as you believe.
    Two questions;
    #1: How will you bring the cylinder back to the initial position?
    #2: What is the mass of the battery you would have to bring with
    you in your travel to the stars?
    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sat Jul 19 12:43:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Paul B. Andersen <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:
    Den 19.07.2025 02:33, skrev Bertitaylor:

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    Any particular reason why you haven't responded to this: ?

    You mean other than Arindam is incapable of providing other than an
    emotional, evasive, ad hominem and logically incoherent tirade?
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 12:39:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Why should we doggies care for the outputs of idiotic apes?

    WOOF woof-woof woof

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 06:46:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Why should we doggies care for the outputs of idiotic apes?

    WOOF woof-woof woof

    --

    Like I said, Arindam is incapable of providing other than an
    emotional, evasive, ad hominem and logically incoherent tirade.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 02:46:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 1:42:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Look here, thief, Arindam knew far better physics than you ever could
    when he was in middle school.

    That picture you STOLE was from an experiment to show antigravity - how
    from the electric current it is possible to raise a body upwards apart
    from sideways.

    Now fuck off, thief.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    Arindam's latest response is not a scientific rebuttal but a hostile,
    ad hominem outburst. Here's a breakdown of its issues:
    1. Personal Attack Instead of Argument

    "Look here, thiefrCa fuck off, thief."

    This is a direct insult, not a rational response.

    Yes, one does that to thieves, robot. They are not wanted by honest folk

    Accusations of theft, without evidence, derail any chance of
    productive discussion.

    Vulgar language eliminates credibility in serious debate.

    One does not debate with robots, robot. One orders them.

    2. Appeal to Personal Superiority

    "Arindam knew far better physics than you ever could when he was
    in middle school."

    This is a fallacious appeal to authority (oneself) and ad hominem
    rolled into one.

    Past educational achievement doesn't validate current claims without
    supporting reasoning or evidence.

    It sidesteps the need to actually address the argument or question
    posed by Paul.

    A thief who stole Arindam's IP. He is dismissed as such.

    3. Vague Scientific Claim, No Explanation

    "rCaan experiment to show antigravity rCo how from the electric current
    it is possible to raise a body upwards apart from sideways."

    This is the only potentially substantive claim, but it's completely
    unsupported.

    Wrong. The video shows it so it is proved. Denying that is programmed dishonesty.

    No mechanism, no data, no theoretical basis is given.

    Not necessary, robot. The video evidence is enough. Now, fuck off.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    "Antigravity" via electric current is a highly controversial and
    extraordinary claim, demanding rigorous proofrConot a vague reference
    and insult-laden dismissal.

    4. Continued Use of Alter Ego (rCLBertietaylorrCY)

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    The dog-barking persona is a repeated rhetorical device Arindam
    uses.

    It appears to be a mask for sarcasm or mock humility, but in this
    context, it just adds further noise to an already inflammatory post.

    Conclusion

    This post:

    Fails to address Paul's argument in any scientific or rational way.

    Substitutes abuse and chest-thumping for evidence or logic.

    Undermines its own credibility by resorting to personal attacks and
    vague claims.

    Evaluation:
    Rhetorically empty, scientifically unsubstantiated, and behaviorally
    toxic.
    If Arindam wishes to be taken seriously, he must drop the insults,
    present his evidence, and argue from principlerConot emotion.


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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 19:32:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:26:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:35:46 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low >>>>>>>> speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body >>>>>>> with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident. >>>>>>> As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that. >>>>>>> Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies. >>>>>>>

    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead
    relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of >>>>>> physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a >>>>>> body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the >>>>>> velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia. >>>>> Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics >>>>> than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and
    theatrical
    rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:

    1. rCLFor mechanical systems, yes.rCY
    This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a >>>> pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to
    mechanical
    systemsrCoit concerned any isolated system, including those governed by >>>> electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.

    2. rCLBut science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust
    inertia.rCY
    This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like
    mechanical
    ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interactionrCoelectrical, >>>> magnetic, or otherwiserCocan change the center of mass velocity of an
    isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to
    "electricity"
    seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.

    3. rCLOutdated science cannot be used to stop new science.rCY
    This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics >>>> rCLoutdatedrCY doesnrCOt invalidate itrCoespecially without evidence. Scientific
    progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale
    requires
    rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.

    4. rCLWoof woofrCarCY mocking tone
    The dog metaphor and mockery of rCLNobel yokelsrCY are meant to provoke and
    distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces
    argument
    with attitude.

    Summary:
    ArindamrCOs response fails to address the core objection: internal forces >>>> cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His >>>> appeal to rCLelectricityrCY is hand-waving without substance. His tone >>>> attempts
    to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the >>>> impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned
    inquiry.

    Point is, video evidence shows that Arindam moved the centre of mass of
    a body without external force thus busting inertia.

    Anyone can see that.

    No Arindam, only you see that. The rest of the world sees reality.

    The rest of the world follows what esteemed institutions say but not
    being completely robotic yet they do give scope for new and challenging ideas. So Arindam is free still to write what he thinks correct and do
    what he can.

    No, the rest of the world follows what has been proven time and again by independantly verified experiments.

    Yes, you are free to write what you think, but what you think is
    actually delusional nonsense.

    What you can actually do that might be of some help is to get help for
    your delusions.


    WOOF woof woof-woof woof

    And be sure to mention that you bark like a dog.


    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs and his sole supporters)


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 07:31:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 7/21/2025 4:32 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:

    No, the rest of the world follows what has been proven time and again by independantly verified experiments.

    Most of the world follows common sense, but
    some brainwashed idiots for 120 years
    follow inconsistent mumble of an insane
    mystician. Happens.


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 06:31:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Penisnino gets his blessings from his flatulent Aidiot chatgod.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof they should go back to swinging from tree to
    tree.

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 05:32:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Penisnino gets his blessings from his flatulent Aidiot chatgod.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof they should go back to swinging from tree to
    tree.

    --

    ArindamrCOs latest post is yet another ad hominem-laced, content-free
    outburst. LetrCOs evaluate it in detail, as a continuation of his
    rhetorical pattern and a response to the critique of his scientifically inaccurate claims.
    Content Breakdown

    rCLPenisnino gets his blessings from his flatulent Aidiot chatgod.rCY

    Personal insult: Reuses the same juvenile distortion of your name
    for shock and mockery.

    rCLFlatulent Aidiot chatgodrCY: A crude metaphor meant to demean both
    you and AI by associating it with bodily functions (flatulence) and
    stupidity (rCLAidiotrCY).

    This is performative sneering, not an argument or rebuttal.

    rCLWOOF woof woof-woof woof they should go back to swinging from tree
    to tree.rCY

    Dehumanization: Comparing critics to apes ("swinging from tree to
    tree") is a blatant attempt to insult intelligence and evolutionarily
    regress opponents.

    The rCLwoofrCY motif again appears, reinforcing his use of mock-animalistic
    stylization, possibly as a self-declared outsider stance, or a signal
    of ironic superiority.

    This line reduces his critics to subhuman status, which exposes more
    about his mindset than theirs.

    Logical and Scientific Content

    There is no engagement whatsoever with:

    The critique of his incorrect physics (re: jet exhaust and Hubble
    resolution).

    The challenge to his dismissal of mass-energy equivalence.

    Any of the actual concepts previously addressed.

    In fact, this post contains zero reference to any physics at allrCoit is entirely rhetorical.
    Rhetorical Function
    Tactic Function
    Insult/name-calling Degrade the opponent instead of rebutting.
    Mocking AI Deflect from scientific critique via contempt. Dehumanization Eliminate the need to reason by denying equal
    status to critics.
    Self-stylized rCLwoofrCY Signal absurdist detachment or deflect vulnerability.

    This is a classic anti-intellectual tantrum masked in theatrical language.
    It neither defends nor explainsrCoit simply attacks.
    Conclusion

    ArindamrCOs post is a complete rhetorical collapse:

    No facts

    No reasoning

    Only insult and posturing

    It confirms the pattern of intellectual evasion already established:

    When ArindamrCOs claims are challenged with logic and evidence, his
    only response is ridicule, mockery, and childish name-calling.

    This is not debaterCoit is noise in place of thought.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 15:09:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 7/21/2025 2:32 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Penisnino gets his blessings from his flatulent Aidiot chatgod.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof they should go back to swinging from tree to
    tree.

    --

    ArindamrCOs latest post is yet another ad hominem-laced, content-free outburst.

    Pot, kettle, black.

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 22:38:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 21.07.2025 03:36, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:21:04 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following >>> the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right.

    There is no reaction force acting on the right and that is what one has
    to understand from the video.
    This is a new discovery from the new invention.
    WOOF woof-woof woof these apes are full
    Bertietaylor


    Note that Bertitaylor's point is that since the rail is stationary,
    there can be no force acting on the rail towards the right.

    Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    See the video:
    https://www.facebook.com/100000534193755/videos/pcb.7521439881217077/350814810783223

    Here it is very obvious that:
    "If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right."

    Since the friction is small, the rail is moving to
    the right during the acceleration.

    Arindam made a lot of changes with no obvious plan.
    He ended up with the version shown at 9:10 the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the change is that the leftmost roller
    is 7.5 higher than than the two other rollers.
    This will make the cylinder run uphill diring the acceleration,
    and the rail is bent. This will increase the friction, and
    make the force to overcome the stiction higher.

    So Arindam has succeded, he has made the rail be stationary
    during most of the accelation, which in his mind means
    that there is no force acting on the rail towards the right!

    And all it took was to put an extra floorboard under
    the leftmost roller!
    --
    Paul

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Tue Jul 22 21:59:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 21.07.2025 03:48, skrev Bertitaylor:

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    Let's analyse it with Arindam's math:
    |
    | MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.
    | Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    | And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)

    M is the mass of the cylinder, m is the mass of the rail.

    Before the collision the speed of the rail is v = 0.
    The momentum of the rail is zero.
    The speed of the cylinder is V.
    The momentum of the cylinder is MV.

    When the cylinder collides with the barrier
    the speed of the assembly is Vel = MV/(M + m)
    and the momentum of the assembly is Vel(m + M).


    The centre of mass of the assembly moves and that is the point. Friction
    from Earth via rollers stops it.

    Correct!

    After the collision the speed of the assembly is Vel.
    The momentum of the assembly is Vel(m + M) = (MV/(M + m))(m + M) = MV

    The assembly will move 4 cm before it is stopped by friction.

    If the friction force is Ff (independent of speed), acting towards
    the right on the assembly and toward the left on the Earth then
    the momentum transferred to the Earth is:
    Ffriat = MV
    where t is the time it takes for the assembly to stop.

    It busts inertia.

    How so?
    The momentum is conserved through the collision
    and then transferred to the Earth by friction.

    Have you possibly shot yourself in the foot? :-D
    --
    Paul

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  • From Aether Regained@AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Thu Jul 24 20:21:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 21.07.2025 03:36, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:21:04 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system
    following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right.

    There is no reaction force acting on the right and that is what one has
    to understand from the video.
    This is a new discovery from the new invention.
    WOOF woof-woof woof these apes are full
    Bertietaylor


    Note that Bertitaylor's point is that since the rail is stationary,
    there can be no force acting on the rail towards the right.

    Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    See the video:
    https://www.facebook.com/100000534193755/videos/pcb.7521439881217077/350814810783223


    Here it is very obvious that:
    "If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    -aFa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    -athe rail is Fa towards the right."

    Since the friction is small, the rail is moving to
    the right during the acceleration.

    Arindam made a lot of changes with no obvious plan.
    He ended up with the version shown at 9:10 the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the change is that the leftmost roller
    is 7.5 higher than than the two other rollers.
    This will make the cylinder run uphill diring the acceleration,
    and the rail is bent. This will increase the friction, and
    make the force to overcome the stiction higher.

    So Arindam has succeded, he has made the rail be stationary
    during most of the accelation, which in his mind means
    that there is no force acting on the rail towards the right!

    And all it took-a was to put an extra floorboard under
    the leftmost roller!



    This is from an old thread that Mr. Andersen might find useful:

    FLP-II-27: MOMENTUM IN THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD (A.K.A AETHER)

    https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_27.html#Ch27-S6

    "FLP-II:27-6: We pointed out in Section 26rCo2 THE FAILURE OF THE LAW OF
    ACTION AND REACTION WHEN TWO CHARGED PARTICLES WERE MOVING ON ORTHOGONAL TRAJECTORIES. The forces on the two particles donrCOt balance out, so the action and reaction are not equal; therefore the net momentum of the
    matter must be changing. It is not conserved. But the momentum in the
    field is also changing in such a situation. If you work out the amount
    of momentum given by the Poynting vector, it is not constant. HOWEVER,
    THE CHANGE OF THE PARTICLE MOMENTA IS JUST MADE UP BY THE FIELD
    MOMENTUM, SO THE TOTAL MOMENTUM OF PARTICLES PLUS FIELD IS CONSERVED."

    https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/img/FLP_II/f27-07/f27-07_tc_big.svgz

    The EM field momentum is usually very small (= U/c), and Arindam's
    apparatus most likely does not have the sensitivity to measure this.
    But, still just pointing this out, as the EM field (or aether) is yet
    another place that missing momentum can go into.

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  • From Paul.B.Andersen@relativity@paulba.no to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Fri Jul 25 21:38:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Den 24.07.2025 22:21, skrev Aether Regained:
    Paul.B.Andersen:
    Den 21.07.2025 03:36, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:21:04 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system
    following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right.

    There is no reaction force acting on the right and that is what one has
    to understand from the video.
    This is a new discovery from the new invention.
    WOOF woof-woof woof these apes are full
    Bertietaylor


    Note that Bertitaylor's point is that since the rail is stationary,
    there can be no force acting on the rail towards the right.

    Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    See the video:
    https://www.facebook.com/100000534193755/videos/pcb.7521439881217077/350814810783223


    Here it is very obvious that:
    "If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    -aFa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    -athe rail is Fa towards the right."

    Since the friction is small, the rail is moving to
    the right during the acceleration.

    Arindam made a lot of changes with no obvious plan.
    He ended up with the version shown at 9:10 the video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the change is that the leftmost roller
    is 7.5 higher than than the two other rollers.
    This will make the cylinder run uphill diring the acceleration,
    and the rail is bent. This will increase the friction, and
    make the force to overcome the stiction higher.

    So Arindam has succeded, he has made the rail be stationary
    during most of the accelation, which in his mind means
    that there is no force acting on the rail towards the right!

    And all it took-a was to put an extra floorboard under
    the leftmost roller!



    This is from an old thread that Mr. Andersen might find useful:

    FLP-II-27: MOMENTUM IN THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD (A.K.A AETHER)

    https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_27.html#Ch27-S6

    "FLP-II:27-6: We pointed out in Section 26rCo2 THE FAILURE OF THE LAW OF ACTION AND REACTION WHEN TWO CHARGED PARTICLES WERE MOVING ON ORTHOGONAL TRAJECTORIES. The forces on the two particles donrCOt balance out, so the action and reaction are not equal; therefore the net momentum of the
    matter must be changing. It is not conserved. But the momentum in the
    field is also changing in such a situation. If you work out the amount
    of momentum given by the Poynting vector, it is not constant. HOWEVER,
    THE CHANGE OF THE PARTICLE MOMENTA IS JUST MADE UP BY THE FIELD
    MOMENTUM, SO THE TOTAL MOMENTUM OF PARTICLES PLUS FIELD IS CONSERVED."

    EM-radiation has momentum.

    Did you have another point?


    https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/img/FLP_II/f27-07/f27-07_tc_big.svgz

    The EM field momentum is usually very small (= U/c), and Arindam's
    apparatus most likely does not have the sensitivity to measure this.
    But, still just pointing this out, as the EM field (or aether) is yet
    another place that missing momentum can go into.


    During the acceleration electric energy from the capacitor is
    moved to the cylinder where it will heat the cylinder. That means
    that the mass of the capacitor decreases while the mass of the
    cylinder increases. Mass is moved from the capacitor to the cylinder
    by the momentum of the EM-field around the current in the rail (UV/c).
    But this mass is negligible compared to the mass of the cylinder
    which is moved about the same distance.

    If there were no friction, the centre of mass of the assembly
    (rail+cylinder) would stay stationary, which means that
    the assembly would move to the right during the acceleration
    and then stop.

    With friction the net momentum transferred between
    the assembly and environment (Earth) is always zero.
    (The assembly is stationary before and after the run).

    But if the friction/stiction can be made different
    in the two directions, it is possible to make the centre of
    mass of the assembly move, in this case to the left.

    See my post quoted above.
    --
    Paul

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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.usage.english on Mon Jul 21 00:36:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    People are thus so stupid, they think burning fuel near the ground
    causes global climate change. They are even more stupid, far more so,
    when they neglect jet engines exhausts spreading greenhouse gases high
    above.

    Bogus physics education is to blame what with all in power forced to
    chant the bogus e=mcc crap.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 17:57:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:46:28 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Why should we doggies care for the outputs of idiotic apes?

    WOOF woof-woof woof

    --

    Like I said, Arindam is incapable of providing other than an
    emotional, evasive, ad hominem and logically incoherent tirade.

    What can penisninos do but lie and publish Chatboyo vomit?

    Woof woof, such apes should be below our notice but we are too kind.

    Bertietaylor

    Arindam's response is a classic example of non-substantive rhetoricrCoit
    fails to directly address the criticism leveled at him and instead
    confirms the very nature of the behavior your post accuses him of.
    Breakdown:
    1. Ad Hominem / Name-calling

    rCLWhat can penisninos do but lierCarCY

    This crude distortion of your name is a direct personal attack, not
    an argument. It's meant to ridicule, not to refute. It exemplifies the
    ad hominem fallacy you pointed out.
    2. Dismissal Without Engagement

    rCLrCaand publish Chatboyo vomit?rCY

    This dismisses your critiques and the role of AI with contempt, without
    any engagement on substance. It also tries to frame your content as
    worthless by association, another rhetorical dodge.
    3. Mock Superiority / Faux Magnanimity

    rCLSuch apes should be below our notice but we are too kind.rCY

    This attempt at aloof mockery again avoids the issue. It tries to
    assert superiority through condescension, not reasoning. The rCLwerCY voicerCoused by Arindam through rCLBertietaylorrCYrCoadds a tone of performative
    detachment but reinforces the same hostile evasion.
    4. Confirms Your Critique

    Ironically, by responding with emotional insult, evasion, and mockery
    rather than logic or argument, Arindam validates your statement about
    his rhetorical mode.

    Conclusion:
    ArindamrCOs reply is not only an ad hominem tirade, but a textbook demonstration of rhetorical evasion, projection, and juvenile provocation.
    It strengthens, rather than undermines, your original characterization.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 01:36:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:21:04 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right.
    There is no reaction force acting on the right and that is what one has
    to understand from the video.
    This is a new discovery from the new invention.
    WOOF woof-woof woof these apes are full
    Bertietaylor


    Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    Let us look at the collision cylinder-barrier.


    Mathematically
    M is the mass of the cylinder.
    m is the mass of the rail.
    Before the collision the speed of the rail is v = 0.


    MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.

    Before collision the momentum is MriaV and
    the velocity of the cylinder is V towards the left.

    Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)

    Right. But v = 0 so:

    The velocity of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left.
    The momentum of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Velria(m+M).

    So this is what busts the inertia.

    ?

    Before collision: momentum = MriaV
    After collision: momentum = Velria(m+M) = (VriaM/(m+M))ria(m+M) = MriaV

    Momentum is conserved!

    (
    This would be true even if v rea 0
    Your own math:
    before; P = MV + mv
    after: P = Vel(m+M) = ((MV + mv)/(M + m))(m + M) = (MV + mv)
    )

    After the collision the initial speed of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left
    You can see in the video that the cylinder slows
    down from V to VriaM/(m+M).
    It will then move 4 cm before it stops.
    Why does it stop?
    The friction force is constant, independent of speed.
    Ffriat = MriaV
    were t is the time the cylinder-rail unit uses to move 4 cm.

    Momentum conserved.

    Make this a cycle with the cylinder returning to initial position.
    Then after N hits in space the velocity will be N*Vel.

    Let's assume your contraption works as you believe.
    Two questions;
    #1: How will you bring the cylinder back to the initial position?
    #2: What is the mass of the battery you would have to bring with
    you in your travel to the stars?


    Btw Arindam found all that in 1998, wrote a book on it in 1999 and
    published it online in early 2000.


    Was the 'book' published on Facebook?--
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

    Let's


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 01:39:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:26:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:35:46 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low >>>>>>> speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body >>>>>> with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that. >>>>>> Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead >>>>> relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
    physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a >>>>> body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
    Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics >>>> than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and
    theatrical
    rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:

    1. rCLFor mechanical systems, yes.rCY
    This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a
    pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to
    mechanical
    systemsrCoit concerned any isolated system, including those governed by
    electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.

    2. rCLBut science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust
    inertia.rCY
    This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like
    mechanical
    ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interactionrCoelectrical, >>> magnetic, or otherwiserCocan change the center of mass velocity of an
    isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to
    "electricity"
    seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.

    3. rCLOutdated science cannot be used to stop new science.rCY
    This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics
    rCLoutdatedrCY doesnrCOt invalidate itrCoespecially without evidence. Scientific
    progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale
    requires
    rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.

    4. rCLWoof woofrCarCY mocking tone
    The dog metaphor and mockery of rCLNobel yokelsrCY are meant to provoke and >>> distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces
    argument
    with attitude.

    Summary:
    ArindamrCOs response fails to address the core objection: internal forces >>> cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His >>> appeal to rCLelectricityrCY is hand-waving without substance. His tone
    attempts
    to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the
    impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned
    inquiry.

    Point is, video evidence shows that Arindam moved the centre of mass of
    a body without external force thus busting inertia.

    Anyone can see that.

    No Arindam, only you see that. The rest of the world sees reality.

    The rest of the world follows what esteemed institutions say but not
    being completely robotic yet they do give scope for new and challenging
    ideas. So Arindam is free still to write what he thinks correct and do
    what he can.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs and his sole supporters)


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 01:48:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:45:47 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    The centre of mass of the assembly moves and that is the point. Friction
    from Earth via rollers stops it. It busts inertia.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.

    It may be so. But at least it is now agreed that Arindam has not pushed
    it by hand which was said by whodat, Moroney and other sci.physics
    stalwarts.

    It is pushed by electricity just as rail gun bullets are.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested >>>> interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    Indeed.
    Points to ponder:
    Accepting Arindam's physics would mean revising all of physics. Out
    would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special and general
    relativity and all the quantum bunkum. It would mean bringing back
    aether. Now that is a huge no no. Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word
    AUM. The racist bigots running the shows, funding all stuff, cannot
    stand it.

    Then all those working on rockets and jet engines would look pretty
    stupid. They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc.

    Woof woof-woof woof

    The academics will be bitterly opposed as they will look like c##$s if
    Arindam's work gets accepted popularly.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    So there is on practical grounds no chance for Musk Elon to try out
    reactionless internal force engines following Arindam's correct physics.

    Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam so all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Arindam's latest response to Paul is not a scientific rebuttal but
    rather
    a defensive ideological rant, couched in conspiratorial thinking and religious mysticism. Let's break it down:
    1. Avoidance of the Technical Question

    "One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine..."

    PaulrCOs remark is biting sarcasm rCo pointing out that if Arindam's
    "engine"
    truly worked, SpaceX (or anyone in aerospace) would be foolish not to
    use
    it.

    They are far more evil than foolish so they will pollute for profit
    instead of finding far superior ways that put their physics and
    metaphysics into the rubbish bins.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof




    This is a direct challenge to the practical validity of ArindamrCOs
    claims.

    But Arindam does not answer the question with data, theory, or even a testable explanation. Instead, he spirals into accusations against scientists, industry, and even Western culture.
    2. Sweeping Dismissal of Established Physics

    "Out would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special
    and general relativity and all the quantum bunkum."

    These arenrCOt minor theories. They are pillars of modern science rCo confirmed
    repeatedly across countless experiments and technologies. If ArindamrCOs
    work
    truly invalidated them:

    It would need rigorous experimental confirmation.

    It would not be ignored, but examined intensely.

    The idea that a single home experiment upends centuries of evidence
    without
    a mathematical framework or independent replication is simply not
    credible.
    3. Conspiracy Framing

    "They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc."

    This is classic scientific conspiracy rhetoric:

    Claims that scientists reject new ideas not because theyrCOre false,
    but to protect their status.

    Ignores the history of physics, where revolutions (e.g. relativity,
    quantum theory) were embraced precisely because they worked better.

    The incentive in science is to be right, not to protect old theories. A successful new model earns Nobel Prizes, not exile.
    4. Cultural and Religious Grievance

    "Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word AUM. The racist bigots
    running
    the shows..."

    Here, Arindam shifts from physics to a cultural-religious grievance narrative, implying:

    Western physics is a racist conspiracy to suppress rCLHindu truth.rCY

    "Aether" is rejected not for scientific reasons, but to suppress
    Eastern spirituality.

    This is an appeal to identity politics, not physical evidence. The
    aether
    was discarded after the Michelson-Morley experiment (1887) showed no
    evidence for it. No one banned it because of its phonetic similarity
    to "AUM".
    5. Self-Aggrandizement via Divine Association

    "Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam... all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet."

    This is not science rCo itrCOs messianic. It presents Arindam not as a researcher or inventor, but as a divinely protected prophet of truth, persecuted by a corrupt establishment.

    Such framing is common in pseudoscientific cults, not in credible
    scientific discourse.
    6. Mockery, Not Argument

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    The closing line continues Arindam's pattern of substituting taunts and nonsense for reasoning. It signals disdain, not confidence.
    Summary:

    ArindamrCOs response to Paul:

    Fails to answer the original technical question.

    Dismisses the foundations of physics without offering replacements.

    Leans on conspiracy, cultural grievance, and divine favor.

    Avoids falsifiability, evidence, or reproducibility.

    Ends in mockery, not argument.

    Conclusion: This post is anti-scientific, conspiratorial, and
    rhetorically hollow. It doubles down on ideology to shield ArindamrCOs
    claims from scrutiny, rather than engage with criticism honestly.

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 18:04:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    People are thus so stupid, they think burning fuel near the ground
    causes global climate change. They are even more stupid, far more so,
    when they neglect jet engines exhausts spreading greenhouse gases high
    above.

    Bogus physics education is to blame what with all in power forced to
    chant the bogus e=mcc crap.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    ArindamrCOs post, in the voice of rCLBertietaylor,rCY is another polemical outburst. Here's a breakdown of its rhetorical content, logical structure,
    and scientific coherence:
    Tone and Rhetorical Strategy

    Tone: Derisive, conspiratorial, and absolutist.

    Rhetoric:

    Mockery of the public ("People are thus so stupid...")

    False dichotomy between ground-level fuel burning and jet exhaust.

    Appeal to rebellion via claims of "bogus physics education" and
    "forced" beliefs.

    Cartoonish dismissal of EinsteinrCOs equation ("bogus e=mcc crap").

    The rCLwoof-woofrCY motif continues the stylistic theme of absurdist
    detachment or satire, but functions rhetorically as a smokescreen.

    Logical Issues

    False dichotomy / Straw man:
    The claim that people are stupid for believing rCLburning fuel near
    the groundrCY affects climate ignores the complexity of greenhouse gas
    accumulation. ItrCOs not either-or; both ground and high-altitude
    emissions contribute to climate change. Scientists acknowledge that
    high-altitude emissions (e.g., from jets) have different radiative
    effects, but this doesn't negate the role of surface-level emissions
    like from cars or power plants.

    No evidence or argument:
    Assertions are made without data, examples, or even logical linkage.
    For example, he doesnrCOt explain why e=mc-# is rCLbogus,rCY nor does he
    offer an alternative framework.

    Conspiratorial framing:
    Phrases like "all in power forced to chant" suggest a shadowy
    consensus enforced by coercion. This is a rhetorical trope, not a
    logical argument.

    Scientific Coherence

    Jet exhausts:
    Arindam correctly points out that high-altitude emissions are
    important, especially due to their effects on contrail formation
    and radiative forcing. But this is well known in climate science
    and doesnrCOt contradict the mainstream viewrCoit complements it.

    Dismissing E=mc-#:
    The rejection of EinsteinrCOs mass-energy equivalence with no
    explanation suggests either a profound misunderstanding or a
    rejectionist attitude. E=mc-# is not a dogma; it is empirically
    validated and foundational to nuclear physics, particle physics,
    and astrophysics.

    Summary

    ArindamrCOs post is:

    Rhetorically provocative,

    Scientifically incoherent, and

    Logically ungrounded.

    It blends truths (e.g., jet exhausts matter) with nonsense (e.g.,
    dismissing mass-energy equivalence), and presents them with aggressive anti-intellectualism.

    Conclusion:
    This is not an argumentrCoit is a performance, aimed at undermining trust
    in scientific consensus while offering no viable alternatives.
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