• Re: Time and sharks

    From Jace Dubanowski@jwo@scj.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 11:18:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    You may announce a sheep to be a "proper shark",
    but it won't affect the real shark.

    Samely, your "proper time" bullshit is not affecting the real time -
    which is NOT a physical entity, but a cultural one, and remains
    non-local and bound to Earth and Solar System.

    May be ugly, but works; binding time to an observer and local Cs
    radiation may be beautiful and symmetrical, but doesn't work.

    with all due respect, you seems genitally mutilated.

    your people are starving, in the middle of shit europe, then they are
    still waging war to destroy Russia.

    you gay kikes are thinking, escaping scot-free all these irregularities
    you dirty pigs are committing, myohhmy. You fools are going to eat the smellensky this winter.
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  • From Richard Bukowski@iia@sirwihkw.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 14:59:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    You're setting the clocks to indicate TAI or UTC or something else, even
    your dilating idiocy. You may call it a measurement or not, doesn't
    matter. What matters is that it's not any mystical Song of Universe
    imagined by your delusional religion, it's the outcome of what YOU want.

    i'm not so sure; it looks like you polaks are going to eat on each other,
    this winter, like cacamerica in tunnels, while ago, heading into
    cacapitalism.

    that's what happens, my friend, wanting to destroy Russia.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 10:42:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:17:43 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
    <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

    Den 15.09.2025 11:48, skrev Maciej Wo?niak:
    You may announce a sheep to be a "proper shark",
    but it won't affect the real shark.

    Samely, your "proper time" bullshit is not
    affecting the real time - which is NOT a
    physical entity, but a cultural one, and
    remains non-local and bound to Earth and
    Solar System.

    May be ugly, but works; binding time to
    an observer and local Cs radiation may be
    beautiful and symmetrical, but doesn't
    work.


    Tanks for your very wise lecture about time.
    But it is something I don't understand,
    so can you please enlighten me?

    My questions are:
    1. Can you measure "the real time"?

    if yes:

    2. How do you measure "the real time"?

    It is much much easier to measure imaginary time then it is to measure
    real time since real time doesn't exist...
    and numbers don't exist either.

    That is WHY there is no equation for real-time.

    All numbers are imaginary...i

    Numbers don't exist.

    Anybody know what the real time is now?


    i tink i'm late.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 10:46:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:59:59 -0000 (UTC), Richard Bukowski
    <iia@sirwihkw.pl> wrote:

    Maciej Wo?niak wrote:

    You're setting the clocks to indicate TAI or UTC or something else, even
    your dilating idiocy. You may call it a measurement or not, doesn't
    matter. What matters is that it's not any mystical Song of Universe
    imagined by your delusional religion, it's the outcome of what YOU want.

    i'm not so sure; it looks like you polaks are going to eat on each other, >this winter, like cacamerica in tunnels, while ago, heading into >cacapitalism.

    that's what happens, my friend, wanting to destroy Russia.


    the only good commie is a dead commie.

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  • From Moebius@invalid@example.invalid to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 21:22:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Am 15.09.2025 um 19:42 schrieb The Starmaker:

    ... real time doesn't exist...
    and numbers don't exist either.


    Yeah, actually, NOTHING exits.

    Satisfied?

    .
    .
    .

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  • From Moebius@invalid@example.invalid to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 21:23:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Am 15.09.2025 um 19:42 schrieb The Starmaker:

    ... real time doesn't exist...
    and numbers don't exist either.


    Yeah, actually, NOTHING exists.

    Satisfied?

    .
    .
    .

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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Sep 15 15:57:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:42:52 -0700, The Starmaker
    <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:17:43 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
    <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

    Den 15.09.2025 11:48, skrev Maciej Wo?niak:
    You may announce a sheep to be a "proper shark",
    but it won't affect the real shark.

    Samely, your "proper time" bullshit is not
    affecting the real time - which is NOT a
    physical entity, but a cultural one, and
    remains non-local and bound to Earth and
    Solar System.

    May be ugly, but works; binding time to
    an observer and local Cs radiation may be
    beautiful and symmetrical, but doesn't
    work.


    Tanks for your very wise lecture about time.
    But it is something I don't understand,
    so can you please enlighten me?

    My questions are:
    1. Can you measure "the real time"?

    if yes:

    2. How do you measure "the real time"?

    It is much much easier to measure imaginary time then it is to measure
    real time since real time doesn't exist...
    and numbers don't exist either.

    That is WHY there is no equation for real-time.

    All numbers are imaginary...i

    Numbers don't exist.

    Anybody know what the real time is now?

    Does anybody got the real time now????
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Tue Sep 16 06:56:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 9/16/2025 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:42:52 -0700, The Starmaker
    <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:17:43 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
    <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

    Den 15.09.2025 11:48, skrev Maciej Wo?niak:
    You may announce a sheep to be a "proper shark",
    but it won't affect the real shark.

    Samely, your "proper time" bullshit is not
    affecting the real time - which is NOT a
    physical entity, but a cultural one, and
    remains non-local and bound to Earth and
    Solar System.

    May be ugly, but works; binding time to
    an observer and local Cs radiation may be
    beautiful and symmetrical, but doesn't
    work.


    Tanks for your very wise lecture about time.
    But it is something I don't understand,
    so can you please enlighten me?

    My questions are:
    1. Can you measure "the real time"?

    if yes:

    2. How do you measure "the real time"?

    It is much much easier to measure imaginary time then it is to measure
    real time since real time doesn't exist...
    and numbers don't exist either.

    That is WHY there is no equation for real-time.

    All numbers are imaginary...i

    Numbers don't exist.

    Anybody know what the real time is now?

    Does anybody got the real time now????

    UTC, TAI, zone times, some others, but
    none of them dilates.

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  • From Nich Majewski@wka@nwnn.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Tue Sep 16 11:03:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    The Starmaker wrote:

    i'm not so sure; it looks like you polaks are going to eat on each
    other,
    this winter, like cacamerica in tunnels, while ago, heading into >>cacapitalism.

    that's what happens, my friend, wanting to destroy Russia.


    the only good commie is a dead commie.

    more likely you suck your dick alone, like santa claus. You ate human
    flesh, you stupid fuck, that's stinking cacapitalism of cacamerica. You
    dirty kikes have no problem in eating human flesh. It stays clearly, along
    the written and unwritten history.
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  • From Neury Wronski@uuks@wieisrow.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Thu Sep 18 16:32:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    He thought that time could be measured with clocks!

    Clocks have more important things to do than your childish "let's
    explain" game.
    You may accept this fact or not, it doesn't affect it, sorry, poor
    trash.

    this is blatantly incorrect, overbebly

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    https://www.bi%74%63%68%75te.com/video/zkHMhh9Qv2wE
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  • From Stefhen Maslanka@nts@anhks.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Fri Sep 19 14:42:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    On 9/19/2025 3:40 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The important point is that GPS-time is _not_ updated with leap seconds
    like UTC is.

    It is true that you mixed them all and insisted that it's UTC which is
    ruling GPS for a long time. You never had any clue about any subject
    you're babbling about, still I managed to correct some of your minor
    errors. As for the major ones - you're a stubborn in your ignorance
    idiot dying hard for them.

    you can't avoid farts flowing through the universe, and therefore you will think clocks synchronized, but you are not, and will never know, you
    stupid kike.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Fri Sep 19 20:17:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 9/19/2025 4:42 PM, Stefhen Maslanka wrote:
    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    On 9/19/2025 3:40 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The important point is that GPS-time is _not_ updated with leap seconds
    like UTC is.

    It is true that you mixed them all and insisted that it's UTC which is
    ruling GPS for a long time. You never had any clue about any subject
    you're babbling about, still I managed to correct some of your minor
    errors. As for the major ones - you're a stubborn in your ignorance
    idiot dying hard for them.

    you can't avoid farts flowing through the universe, and therefore you will think clocks synchronized, but you are not, and will never know, you
    stupid kike.

    You will think I don't know, but I will, and you
    just don't know. "Knowledge" is a complicated term,
    it definitely can surprise you.


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  • From Python@jp@python.invalid to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Fri Sep 19 19:19:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Le 19/09/2025 |a 20:17, Maciej Wo+|niak a |-crit :
    On 9/19/2025 4:42 PM, Stefhen Maslanka wrote:
    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    On 9/19/2025 3:40 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The important point is that GPS-time is _not_ updated with leap seconds >>>> like UTC is.

    It is true that you mixed them all and insisted that it's UTC which is
    ruling GPS for a long time. You never had any clue about any subject
    you're babbling about, still I managed to correct some of your minor
    errors. As for the major ones - you're a stubborn in your ignorance
    idiot dying hard for them.

    you can't avoid farts flowing through the universe, and therefore you will >> think clocks synchronized, but you are not, and will never know, you
    stupid kike.

    You will think I don't know, but I will, and you
    just don't know. "Knowledge" is a complicated term,
    it definitely can surprise you.

    This the best you can tonight Woz ?

    Sheets and nurses will suffer...
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Fri Sep 19 22:04:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 9/19/2025 9:19 PM, Python wrote:
    Le 19/09/2025 |a 20:17, Maciej Wo+|niak a |-crit :
    On 9/19/2025 4:42 PM, Stefhen Maslanka wrote:
    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    On 9/19/2025 3:40 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The important point is that GPS-time is _not_ updated with leap
    seconds
    like UTC is.

    It is true that you mixed them all and insisted that it's UTC which is >>>> ruling GPS for a long time. You never had any clue about any subject
    you're babbling about, still I managed to correct some of your minor
    errors. As for the major ones-a - you're a stubborn in your ignorance
    idiot-a dying hard for them.

    you can't avoid farts flowing through the universe, and therefore you
    will
    think clocks synchronized, but you are not, and will never know, you
    stupid kike.

    You will think I don't know, but I will, and you
    just don't know. "Knowledge" is a complicated term,
    it definitely can surprise you.

    This the best you can tonight Woz ?

    Best or not, I can this tonight, Pyt.

    Sheets and nurses will suffer...

    slander
    noun [ C or U ]
    uk /-esl+a-En.d+Or/ us /-esl|an.d+U/
    a false spoken statement about someone that damages their reputation, or
    the making of such a statement:

    Or maybe
    libel
    noun [ C or U ]
    uk /-ela+-.b+Ol/ us /-ela+-.b+Ol/
    a piece of writing that contains bad and false things about a person:




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  • From Python@jp@python.invalid to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Fri Sep 19 20:59:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Le 19/09/2025 |a 22:04, Maciej Wo+|niak a |-crit :
    On 9/19/2025 9:19 PM, Python wrote:
    Le 19/09/2025 |a 20:17, Maciej Wo+|niak a |-crit :
    On 9/19/2025 4:42 PM, Stefhen Maslanka wrote:
    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    On 9/19/2025 3:40 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The important point is that GPS-time is _not_ updated with leap
    seconds
    like UTC is.

    It is true that you mixed them all and insisted that it's UTC which is >>>>> ruling GPS for a long time. You never had any clue about any subject >>>>> you're babbling about, still I managed to correct some of your minor >>>>> errors. As for the major ones-a - you're a stubborn in your ignorance >>>>> idiot-a dying hard for them.

    you can't avoid farts flowing through the universe, and therefore you >>>> will
    think clocks synchronized, but you are not, and will never know, you
    stupid kike.

    You will think I don't know, but I will, and you
    just don't know. "Knowledge" is a complicated term,
    it definitely can surprise you.

    This the best you can tonight Woz ?

    Best or not, I can this tonight, Pyt.

    Sheets and nurses will suffer...

    slander
    noun [ C or U ]
    uk /-esl+a-En.d+Or/ us /-esl|an.d+U/
    a false spoken statement about someone that damages their reputation, or
    the making of such a statement:

    Or maybe
    libel
    noun [ C or U ]
    uk /-ela+-.b+Ol/ us /-ela+-.b+Ol/
    a piece of writing that contains bad and false things about a person:


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  • From Richard Hachel@rh@tiscali.fr to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sat Sep 20 15:51:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Le 19/09/2025 |a 22:59, Python a |-crit :
    Le 19/09/2025 |a 22:04, Maciej Wo+|niak a |-crit :
    On 9/19/2025 9:19 PM, Python wrote:
    Le 19/09/2025 |a 20:17, Maciej Wo+|niak a |-crit :
    On 9/19/2025 4:42 PM, Stefhen Maslanka wrote:
    Maciej Wo+|niak wrote:

    On 9/19/2025 3:40 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    The important point is that GPS-time is _not_ updated with leap >>>>>>> seconds
    like UTC is.

    It is true that you mixed them all and insisted that it's UTC which is >>>>>> ruling GPS for a long time. You never had any clue about any subject >>>>>> you're babbling about, still I managed to correct some of your minor >>>>>> errors. As for the major ones-a - you're a stubborn in your ignorance >>>>>> idiot-a dying hard for them.

    you can't avoid farts flowing through the universe, and therefore you >>>>> will
    think clocks synchronized, but you are not, and will never know, you >>>>> stupid kike.

    You will think I don't know, but I will, and you
    just don't know. "Knowledge" is a complicated term,
    it definitely can surprise you.

    This the best you can tonight Woz ?

    Best or not, I can this tonight, Pyt.

    Sheets and nurses will suffer...

    slander
    noun [ C or U ]
    uk /-esl+a-En.d+Or/ us /-esl|an.d+U/
    a false spoken statement about someone that damages their reputation, or
    the making of such a statement:

    Or maybe
    libel
    noun [ C or U ]
    uk /-ela+-.b+Ol/ us /-ela+-.b+Ol/
    a piece of writing that contains bad and false things about a person:

    Et c'est tellement vrai.

    Moins tu parles, plus c'est vrai.

    R.H.
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  • From Azael Christakos@aslo@aors.gr to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sat Sep 20 21:30:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    | UTC is based on TAI, but since the rotation of the Earth | varies and
    seems to slow down, leap seconds are inserted | as needed to (loosely)
    keep UTC in sync with the solar mean | time at longitude 0.
    | UTC is currently 27 seconds behind TAI.

    Typo. UTC is currently 37 seconds behind TAI.

    the rate is essential, not that they are in synch and lags behind. They
    are not in synch.
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sun Sep 21 12:52:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Azael Christakos <aslo@aors.gr> wrote:

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    | UTC is based on TAI, but since the rotation of the Earth | varies and seems to slow down, leap seconds are inserted | as needed to (loosely)
    keep UTC in sync with the solar mean | time at longitude 0.
    | UTC is currently 27 seconds behind TAI.

    Typo. UTC is currently 37 seconds behind TAI.

    the rate is essential, not that they are in synch and lags behind. They
    are not in synch.

    Real scientists, and astronomers, and 19th century sea captains,
    already knew that master clocks should not be synchronised.
    It suffices to note the differences.
    Phileas Fogg knew it too.

    In fact that is all that TAI is: a periodically updated table
    of differences, and of rate divergencies,
    and a weighted average of them all.
    (maintained by BIPM)

    That said, TAI -37s is in sync with UTC, exactly, and by definition,
    (until it becomes -38s)

    Jan





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  • From Vaugn Krakowski@ksa@nink.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sun Sep 21 12:02:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Typo. UTC is currently 37 seconds behind TAI.

    the rate is essential, not that they are in synch and lags behind. They
    are not in synch.

    Real scientists, and astronomers, and 19th century sea captains, already
    knew that master clocks should not be synchronised.
    It suffices to note the differences.
    Phileas Fogg knew it too.

    In fact that is all that TAI is: a periodically updated table of
    differences, and of rate divergencies,
    and a weighted average of them all.
    (maintained by BIPM)

    That said, TAI -37s is in sync with UTC, exactly, and by definition,
    (until it becomes -38s)

    you just proved they are not in sync, but periodically updated to lag
    behind. Or rather you dont capisce what you say, idiot.
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  • From Hollis Meeuwissen@iii@hsuw.nl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Thu Sep 25 18:53:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Iow: there ain't no such thing as 'absolute time', which you could
    eventually measure.
    Have you never used your wristwatch to measure the 'time' between two
    events?
    (Like 'leaving home' and 'arrive at destination'.)

    Was that 'time' measurable, or ain't there any such thing which you
    could eventually measure?

    that's registering a timestamp, not measuring, you fucking uneducated
    idiot.

    therefor, as a dimension, you use time to measure something else, not to measure time, as it makes no sense.

    relativity effects has nothing to do with measuring time, or again, must
    be something you misundrestand

    now say sorry to everybody. People may take the shit you say as real.
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  • From Mauro =?iso-8859-1?q?G=F3rski?=@iaib@mampg.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Fri Sep 26 22:20:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Best English equivalent for meaning:
    'When it rains, it pours'.

    Applied to this forum: Crazy ideas rarely happen in isolation. Someone
    with one crazy idea usually turns out to be a complete nutter.

    but the earth is today larger than it was 100 years ago, for instance.
    It's simple mathematics, touch my balls. What are you so intricate about.

    the smellensky of ukrane attacks again your country with drones, maybe you should reconsider.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?=@mlwozniak@wp.pl to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Sat Sep 27 08:03:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Best English equivalent for meaning:
    'When it rains, it pours'.

    Applied to this forum: Crazy ideas rarely happen in isolation. Someone
    with one crazy idea usually turns out to be a complete nutter.

    Your idiot guru, for instance: first announced
    that good clocks are desynchronizing clocks -
    and just some years later announced basic
    math false.
    Of course, his obedient doggies soon found
    "proofs" that it was always obvious that
    basic mathematics is false.

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