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In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.

riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.

They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job

nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,

so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting

the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
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Hi,

Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
for AI data centers, not only super computers.
We are talking about newly built AI data centers

that for the first time go into giga watts:

The New WorldrCOs Largest AI Supercluster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI

Some confirmed picks:

xAI Colossus Memphis
Phase 1 100000 xAI U.S. Confirmed
Tesla Cortex Phase 1 50000 Tesla U.S. Confirmed
Lawrence Livermore NL
El Capitan Phase 2 44143 U.S. Department of
Energy U.S. Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 30000 N/A China Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024a 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024b 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Jupiter, J|+lich 23536 EuroHPC JU,
J|+lich Supercomputing
Center Germany Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.

riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.

They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job

nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,

so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting

the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

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From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi,

So the Tibetan lamasery had it right,
the lights go out. There is a never ending
hunger for crunch? Even requiring USA

to go into domestic chip production:

AmericarCOs Most Advanced Chip Factory Yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX3jNJmbcI

But chip production etc.. (embodied energy) is
only a fraction of the energy consumption:

Operational energy (running the data center
for 1 year at 1 GW) = 8,760 TWh Hardware
manufacturing energy = 0.75 TWh
So the energy to produce the hardware is
roughly 0.0085 (or 0.85%) of the annual
operational energy.

What are the projections? By 2030, global
power demand for data centers is projected to
reach approximately 220 GW, underscoring the

urgency and strategic importance of securing
power and hardware capacity:

$100B Bet on 10GW AI Infrastructure https://51ai.substack.com/p/openai-nvidia-100b-bet-on-10gw-ai

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
for AI data centers, not only super computers.
We are talking about newly built AI data centers

that for the first time go into giga watts:

The New WorldrCOs Largest AI Supercluster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI

Some confirmed picks:

xAI Colossus Memphis
Phase 1-a-a-a 100000-a-a-a xAI-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Tesla Cortex Phase 1-a-a-a 50000-a-a-a Tesla-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed Lawrence Livermore NL
El Capitan Phase 2-a-a-a 44143-a-a-a U.S. Department of
Energy-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System-a-a-a 30000-a-a-a N/A-a-a-a China-a-a-a Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024a-a-a-a 24576-a-a-a Meta AI-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024b-a-a-a 24576-a-a-a Meta AI-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed Jupiter, J|+lich-a-a-a 23536-a-a-a EuroHPC JU,
J|+lich Supercomputing
Center-a-a-a Germany-a-a-a Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System-a-a-a 20000-a-a-a N/A-a-a-a China-a-a-a Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System-a-a-a 20000-a-a-a N/A-a-a-a China-a-a-a Confirmed

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.

riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.

They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job

nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,

so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting

the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

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Hi,

Funny video that uses KI generated content
itself, to decry KI generated content. We
live in a paradox world:

"While we are still thinking about the
possible social effects of artificial
intelligence, the digital knowledge space
is already drowning into synthetic trash.

How could it get that far? How could the
network, which had not been long ago as a
place of free knowledge and the open exchange
of information and entertainment, became
mechanically manufactured nonsensively
in record speed?"
KI: Der Tod des Internets - ARTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGmVehWBdHI

Word of the year 2025:

"AI slop has been variously defined as "digital
clutter", "filler content [prioritizing] speed
and quantity over substance and quality",[6]
and "shoddy or unwanted AI content in social
media, art, books and [...] search results".
AI slop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_slop

Poor Rossy Boy, now he is completely jobless.
In the past he was the sole king of Human Slop.
Now AI Slop thanks to large scale remix, stable

diffusion and who knows what, is the new spam king.

Bye


Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

So the Tibetan lamasery had it right,
the lights go out. There is a never ending
hunger for crunch? Even requiring USA

to go into domestic chip production:

AmericarCOs Most Advanced Chip Factory Yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX3jNJmbcI

But chip production etc.. (embodied energy) is
only a fraction of the energy consumption:

Operational energy (running the data center
for 1 year at 1 GW) = 8,760 TWh Hardware
manufacturing energy = 0.75 TWh
So the energy to produce the hardware is
roughly 0.0085 (or 0.85%) of the annual
operational energy.

What are the projections? By 2030, global
power demand for data centers is projected to
reach approximately 220 GW, underscoring the

urgency and strategic importance of securing
power and hardware capacity:

$100B Bet on 10GW AI Infrastructure https://51ai.substack.com/p/openai-nvidia-100b-bet-on-10gw-ai

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
for AI data centers, not only super computers.
We are talking about newly built AI data centers

that for the first time go into giga watts:

The New WorldrCOs Largest AI Supercluster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI

Some confirmed picks:

xAI Colossus Memphis
Phase 1-a-a-a 100000-a-a-a xAI-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Tesla Cortex Phase 1-a-a-a 50000-a-a-a Tesla-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Lawrence Livermore NL
El Capitan Phase 2-a-a-a 44143-a-a-a U.S. Department of
Energy-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System-a-a-a 30000-a-a-a N/A-a-a-a China-a-a-a Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024a-a-a-a 24576-a-a-a Meta AI-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024b-a-a-a 24576-a-a-a Meta AI-a-a-a U.S.-a-a-a Confirmed
Jupiter, J|+lich-a-a-a 23536-a-a-a EuroHPC JU,
J|+lich Supercomputing
Center-a-a-a Germany-a-a-a Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System-a-a-a 20000-a-a-a N/A-a-a-a China-a-a-a Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System-a-a-a 20000-a-a-a N/A-a-a-a China-a-a-a Confirmed

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/


Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.

riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.

They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job

nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,

so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting

the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

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From Newsgroup: sci.logic

On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:

In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

A very old story. I read it as a child.

Regards, WM

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I dunno. Was trying to find another story,
of a scientiest who studies the mind, and
then goes slowly crazy when he discovers

how the mind works. But what I posted
is a **Plot Summmary** of a short story:

"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

Maybe he used some existing Asian lore,
I don't know. Who is an expert in this matter?

WM schrieb:

On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:

In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

A very old story. I read it as a child.

Regards, WM

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Hi,

So Indians have a large counting:

Astronomer and mathematician
Aryabhata, who was born in 476 CE,
finished his book Aryabhatiya in 499
CE, in which he wrote "When the
three yugas (satyug, tretayug and
dwaparyug) have elapsed and
60 x 60 (3,600) years of kaliyug
have already passed, I am now 23
years old." Based on this information,
Kali Yuga began in 3102 BCE, which is
calculated from 3600 - (476 + 23) + 1
(no year zero from 1 BCE to 1 CE).[24]

What was he talking about?

"Within the current Kalpa (aeon) are
1,000 cycles of a Chatur Yuga (epoch),
each with four yugas (ages). These ages
encompass a beginning of complete purity
to a descent into total decay, a
devolution of dharmic principles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_eschatology#The_Four_Yugas

Mild Shock schrieb:

I dunno. Was trying to find another story,
of a scientiest who studies the mind, and
then goes slowly crazy when he discovers

how the mind works. But what I posted
is a **Plot Summmary** of a short story:

"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

Maybe he used some existing Asian lore,
I don't know. Who is an expert in this matter?

WM schrieb:

On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:

In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three

A very old story. I read it as a child.

Regards, WM

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Hi,

Try this server:

https://mathstodon.xyz/about?lang=en

It says:

Mathstodon.xyz is a Mastodon instance for
people who love maths. This instance is for
people who love maths and we hope thererCOll be
lots of maths chat, but any topic of conversation
following the code of conduct and the principle
of getting along together is OK.

It also says:

Administered by:
Christian Lawson-Perfect
@christianp

Bye

P.S.: Sorry Julio Di Egidio, might push your Nazi
Retard buttons again. Mastodon was created and is
led by Eugen Rochko, a German software developer.

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

On 03/12/2024 10:08 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 03/07/2024 08:09 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 02/29/2024 07:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 02/20/2024 07:47 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

About a "dedicated little OS" to run a "dedicated little service".
[... tons of gibberish ...]

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Hi,

Some statistics (2019 pre Corona):

Number of instances by country:
- Japan hosts ~ 25.5% of all Mastodon instances.
- The United States hosts ~ 21.4% of instances.
- France, Germany etc. also have significant shares,
but less than those top two.
Tweets are caled Toots:

Users / Content concentration (rCLwhere the users / toots arerCY):
- Even though Japan has ~25.5% of instances,
it accounts for about 41% of users.
- Many rCLtootsrCY (posts) are concentrated in a few countries.
For example, the top three countries host a majority of toots.

See also:

rCLChallenges in the Decentralised Web: The Mastodon Case.rCY
De Domenico et al. (2019),
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336661890

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Try this server:

https://mathstodon.xyz/about?lang=en

It says:

Mathstodon.xyz is a Mastodon instance for
people who love maths. This instance is for
people who love maths and we hope thererCOll be
lots of maths chat, but any topic of conversation
following the code of conduct and the principle
of getting along together is OK.

It also says:

Administered by:
Christian Lawson-Perfect
@christianp

Bye

P.S.: Sorry Julio Di Egidio, might push your Nazi
Retard buttons again. Mastodon was created and is
led by Eugen Rochko, a German software developer.

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

On 03/12/2024 10:08 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 03/07/2024 08:09 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 02/29/2024 07:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 02/20/2024 07:47 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

About a "dedicated little OS" to run a "dedicated little service".
[... tons of gibberish ...]

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