• Re: Word of the day; "grumous".

    From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english,sci.lang on Tue Aug 12 03:48:35 2025
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    Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> posted:


    This, and the related noun grume, are doctorsrCO (and in particular pathologistsrCO) jargon for a blood clot or any viscous fluid or mass of fluid.
    but being aware of its existence in English may be helpful for those non-doctors who are familiar with French le grumeau (lump, clot) or Italian il grumo (clot (whether milk or blood)).

    ItrCOs an unremarkable borrowing from late Latin, OED describes [ad. late L. grumus little heap, hillock;]. I canrCOt find any convincing further etymology
    beyond that.


    Grumous @ Egl : clot < grumus @ LLtn : heap, hillock
    monGoLU @ Mbuti : dome hut > GoLU.MOn?

    XyUaMbUaTla (arid) / nJUaMbUangdualua (humid)

    *XUMUT cf summit? con.GRU.ent? (come together) GLUe? (clay, stick together) wombell.e? gum? (Greek kommi "gum," from Egyptian kemai; gum up = clog.
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  • From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to alt.usage.english,sci.lang on Mon Jun 30 21:45:11 2025
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    This, and the related noun grume, are doctorsrCO (and in particular pathologistsrCO) jargon for a blood clot or any viscous fluid or mass of fluid.
    but being aware of its existence in English may be helpful for those non-doctors who are familiar with French le grumeau (lump, clot) or Italian
    il grumo (clot (whether milk or blood)).

    ItrCOs an unremarkable borrowing from late Latin, OED describes [ad. late L. grumus little heap, hillock;]. I canrCOt find any convincing further etymology beyond that.
    --
    rCyAs I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stoutrCO
    (C. Moore)
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  • From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english,sci.lang,news.software.readers on Tue Jul 1 03:31:33 2025
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    Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> posted:


    This, and the related noun grume, are doctorsrCO (and in particular pathologistsrCO) jargon for a blood clot or any viscous fluid or mass of fluid.
    but being aware of its existence in English may be helpful for those non-doctors who are familiar with French le grumeau (lump, clot) or Italian il grumo (clot (whether milk or blood)).

    ItrCOs an unremarkable borrowing from late Latin, OED describes [ad. late L. grumus little heap, hillock;]. I canrCOt find any convincing further etymology
    beyond that.



    https://www.oed.com/dictionary/grumous_adj


    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grumous

    Anagrams: sour gum, sourgum



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    Now I prefer to post from this site
    https://newsgrouper.org/rec.puzzles
    because it's faster, but this Msg is not showing up there.


    My bad... i was looking in the wrong NG
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  • From Christian Weisgerber@naddy@mips.inka.de to alt.usage.english,sci.lang on Tue Jul 1 19:29:18 2025
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    On 2025-06-30, Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> wrote:

    ItrCOs an unremarkable borrowing from late Latin, OED describes [ad. late L. grumus little heap, hillock;]. I canrCOt find any convincing further etymology
    beyond that.

    De Vann in the _Etymological Dictionary of Latin_ (2008):

    ------------------->
    gr+2mus rCyheap of earth, hillockrCO [m. o] (Acc.+)
    Derivatives: d-ogr+2mare 'to level off (Enn,+).
    PIt. *gr+imo- rCyheaprCO.
    PIE *hree||r-+im-o-. IE cognates: see s.v. gremium.

    Lat. grumus could be connected with gremium < *grem- and OCS gramada
    rCyheap, pilerCO < *gr+im-. A preform *gr+imos may have turned into gr+2mus phonetically: the change of *+im > +2m might also found in h+2m-Unus
    (see s.v. hom+i). The words that retain -+im- either have a following
    front vowel (abd+imen, n+imen, f+imes, m+imentum. t+imenium, +imen, v+imer, c+imis) or are due to a contraction of *o+e (p+imum, pr+imus); the
    only exception is R+ima. Thus, the raising of *+i in front of m may
    require the additional condition of a following back vowel (no
    exceptions) or non-front vowel (exception R+ima; but being a name,
    this may have escaped the sound change). For the relevance of the
    vowel in the next syllabe for the a vowel change, compare the change
    *e > o /m,w _ CV[non-front] discussed by Schrijver 1991: 466-470.
    Note also that the raising of *-o to Lat. -2 is conditioned in a
    similar way, viz. by -i- in the next syllable,
    Bibl.: WH I: 623, EM 283, IEW 376ff. raA gremium
    <-------------------
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    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de
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  • From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to alt.usage.english,sci.lang on Wed Jul 2 06:58:29 2025
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    Ar an ch|-ad l|i de m|! I||il, scr|!obh Christian Weisgerber:

    On 2025-06-30, Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> wrote:

    ItrCOs an unremarkable borrowing from late Latin, OED describes [ad. late L.
    grumus little heap, hillock;]. I canrCOt find any convincing further etymology beyond that.

    De Vann in the _Etymological Dictionary of Latin_ (2008):

    ------------------->
    gr+2mus rCyheap of earth, hillockrCO [m. o] (Acc.+)
    Derivatives: d-ogr+2mare 'to level off (Enn,+).
    PIt. *gr+imo- rCyheaprCO.
    PIE *hree||r-+im-o-. IE cognates: see s.v. gremium.

    Lat. grumus could be connected with gremium < *grem- and OCS gramada rCyheap, pilerCO < *gr+im-. [...]

    Thanks!
    --
    rCyAs I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stoutrCO
    (C. Moore)
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