• Re: Paleo-etymology 2025

    From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Mon Sep 29 14:07:24 2025
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    DDeden <user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    True friends false cognates
    True friends, true cognates
    False friends, true cognates
    False friends, false cognates

    https://www.facebook.com/share/1EzmGMwohk/

    That post is one of many interesting etymology infographics by Taal

    https://www.facebook.com/taalaandewandel
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Mon Sep 29 17:53:20 2025
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    Cepan @ Azt : combine <= XyUAMBuAtl

    There isn't a single, simple verb for "combine" in Nahuatl; instead, the idea is conveyed through the word cepan (or |oepan), which functions as an adverb meaning "together" or "in company with one another" and can be incorporated into verbs.
    Here's why and how it works:
    Adverbial meaning
    : cepan means "together" or "jointly".
    Incorporation into verbs
    : This adverb can be added to a verb to express the idea of combining or being together simultaneously. For example, in the sentence "yquac yaque sepanolestin yn i|oepan mexica opan Florida," sepanolestin is a verb formed from cepan, indicating that the Spanish went together with the Mexica.
    Contextual usage
    : The specific way to express "combine" depends on the context. You might use cepan with a verb of movement, like the example above, or other actions to show that things are done together.
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Thu Oct 2 00:56:24 2025
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    Gumbo = okra

    https://groups.io/g/1WorldofWords/post

    Gumbo < ngombo @ Mbundu Ctl Afr Bantu : okra
    soup thickened with okra, 1805, from Louisiana French, probably ultimately from Central Bantu dialect (compare Mbundu ngombo "okra"). Also used for "the creole patois of Louisiana" (1838).

    Okra < nkruma @ Akan W Afr Ghana : okra
    vegetable cultivated in the East and West Indies and southern U.S., 1670s, from a West African language (compare Akan nkruma "okra").
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Thu Oct 2 03:47:13 2025
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    Laryngeal airsacs & external noses in humans, apes & proboscis monkeys

    https://newsgrouper.org/sci.anthropology.paleo/1757564103/1757564103 https://newsgrouper.org/sci.anthropology.paleo/1758689342/0
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Fri Oct 3 00:37:14 2025
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    Antarctican accent, citizens

    https://groups.io/g/1WorldofWords/message/684
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  • From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Fri Oct 3 11:29:18 2025
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    Ar an tri|| l|i de m|! Deireadh F||mhair, scr|!obh DDeden:

    Antarctican accent, citizens

    https://groups.io/g/1WorldofWords/message/684

    rCyFor instance, a German woman stationed at the Rothera Research Station began
    to speak like a native English speaker as she talked more and more with her
    colleagues from the UK.rCO

    [...]

    rCyThe incipient linguistic changes observed in Antarctica, while captured over
    a brief six-month period, are not without precedent. They represent the first
    moments of a process that has played out countless times throughout human
    history, leading to the diversification of languages and the birth of new
    dialects.

    While the rCLAntarctic accentrCY may sound surprising, itrCOs not without
    precedent. History is full of cases where small, isolated groups of people
    forged entirely new ways of speaking.rCO

    Glad it has been documented. The article has plenty of filler, which is not a shock.
    --
    rCyAs I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stoutrCO
    (C. Moore)
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Sun Oct 5 07:03:47 2025
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    DDeden <user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Cepan @ Azt : combine <= XyUAMBuAtl

    There isn't a single, simple verb for "combine" in Nahuatl; instead, the idea is conveyed through the word cepan (or |oepan), which functions as an adverb meaning "together" or "in company with one another" and can be incorporated into verbs.
    Here's why and how it works:
    Adverbial meaning
    : cepan means "together" or "jointly".
    Incorporation into verbs
    : This adverb can be added to a verb to express the idea of combining or being together simultaneously. For example, in the sentence "yquac yaque sepanolestin yn i|oepan mexica opan Florida," sepanolestin is a verb formed from cepan, indicating that the Spanish went together with the Mexica.
    Contextual usage
    : The specific way to express "combine" depends on the context. You might use cepan with a verb of movement, like the example above, or other actions to show that things are done together.


    I somehow missed that both combine and (ac)company are obviously linked to cepan in meaning, sound and derivation. All three are apparently cognates, and can be traced back to xyuambuatl, where Aztec Nahuatl typically swaps p for mb.
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Tue Oct 7 19:33:14 2025
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    Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> posted:


    Ar an tri|| l|i de m|! Deireadh F||mhair, scr|!obh DDeden:

    Antarctican accent, citizens

    https://groups.io/g/1WorldofWords/message/684

    rCyFor instance, a German woman stationed at the Rothera Research Station began
    to speak like a native English speaker as she talked more and more with her
    colleagues from the UK.rCO

    [...]

    rCyThe incipient linguistic changes observed in Antarctica, while captured over
    a brief six-month period, are not without precedent. They represent the first
    moments of a process that has played out countless times throughout human
    history, leading to the diversification of languages and the birth of new
    dialects.

    While the rCLAntarctic accentrCY may sound surprising, itrCOs not without
    precedent. History is full of cases where small, isolated groups of people
    forged entirely new ways of speaking.rCO

    Glad it has been documented. The article has plenty of filler, which is not a shock.

    Video of antarctic guides, I hear no particular accent:

    Antarctic guides

    https://youtube.com/shorts/LkjQT2mx80g?si=wFpYkDovon8j1ncL


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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Sat Oct 11 23:08:54 2025
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    HAQERS & human language evolution

    https://doi.org/10.1101/2025.03.07.641231

    Ancient regulatory evolution shapes individual language abilities in present-day humans

    Lucas G Casten, Tanner Koomar, Taylor R Thomas, Jin-Young Koh, Dabney Hofammann, Savantha Thenuwara, Allison Momany, Marlea OrCOBrien, Jeffrey C Murray, J Bruce Tomblin, Jacob J Michaelson

    doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2025.03.07.641231

    Abstract
    Language is a defining feature of our species, yet the genomic changes enabling it remain poorly understood. Despite decades of work since FOXP2rCOs discovery, we still lack a clear picture of which regions shaped language evolution and how variation contributes to present-day phenotypic differences. Using a novel evolutionary stratified polygenic score approach in nearly 40,000 individuals, we find that Human Ancestor Quickly Evolved Regions (HAQERs) are specifically associated with language but not general cognition. HAQERs evolved before the humanrCoNeanderthal split, giving hominins stronger binding of Forkhead and Homeobox transcription factors, and show balancing selection across the past 20,000 years. Remarkably, language variants in HAQERs appear more prevalent in Neanderthals and have convergently evolved across vocal-learning mammals. Our results reveal how ancient innovations continue shaping human language.

    INTRODUCTION Human language is one of our speciesrCO most defining features, yet its genetic foundations remain incompletely understood. Previous research has shown how rare mutations in genes like FOXP2 can cause severe speech and language disorders, but these individual genes cannot explain typical variation in language capabilities or the broader evolutionary emergence of human language. Recent work has focused on identifying common genetic variants associated with language-related traits through large-scale genome-wide association studies, which have revealed hundreds of genomic loci contributing to traits like reading ability, rhythm, stuttering and vocabulary development. This emerging picture supports a highly polygenic architecture for language abilities, with numerous regulatory elements scattered throughout the genome collectively influencing language development. However, this polygenic model has left fundamental evolutionary questions unanswered about how these regulatory elements evolved during human evolution and when our species acquired its unique language-promoting functions.

    RESULTS Through analysis of nearly 40,000 individuals across multiple cohorts with detailed language phenotyping, we discovered that Human Ancestor Quickly Evolved Regions (HAQERs), genomic sequences that began rapidly accumulating mutations before the human-neanderthal ancestral split, show specific and robust associations with language abilities but not with nonverbal IQ. A single nucleotide polymorphism in a HAQER carries on average 188 times more impact on language ability than variants elsewhere in the genome, despite HAQERs comprising less than 0.1% of the human genome. We find that HAQERs evolved in hominins to support language through increased binding affinity to Forkhead and Homeobox box transcription factors, including FOXP2, with these binding motifs linked to individual differences in language capability. Additionally, HAQERs provided humans with novel cell-type-specific chromatin accessibility, including in medium spiny neurons and FOXP2 -expressing neurons. Ancient DNA analysis of early humans from the past 20,000 years revealed that language-promoting HAQER variants have remained stable in frequency, likely due to balancing selection, contrasting with general cognition variants that show evidence of recent positive selection. This apparent balancing selection can be explained by the link between HAQERs and prenatal development, including a larger head size at birth and birth complications. Surprisingly, archaic humans (Neanderthals and Denisovans) appear to carry higher frequencies of language-promoting variants than ancient and modern humans, suggesting complex language capabilities emerged before the human-Neanderthal split. Cross-species genomic analysis across 170 non-primate mammalian species demonstrated convergent evolution of HAQER-like sequences specifically in vocal learning mammals, providing independent evidence for the fundamental role of these regulatory elements in complex vocal communication.

    CONCLUSION These results establish a direct connection between ancient genomic changes and present-day variation in human language abilities, supporting that the genetic foundations for complex language capabilities predate Homo sapiens. The discovery that language-promoting variants show signatures of balancing rather than positive selection, combined with evidence that these variants influence prenatal brain size and birth complications, suggests an ongoing evolutionary trade-off between language capability and reproductive fitness that continues to shape human genetic variation today.
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Mon Oct 20 20:14:02 2025
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    Off topic

    Why hair, eyebrows of humans, baldness? my answers:

    https://groups.io/g/1WorldofWords/topic/115855286#msg718
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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.lang on Thu Oct 23 18:08:14 2025
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    Sci.lang Thread: Etymology of 'tall'

    https://newsgrouper.org/%3C1761240958-5108@newsgrouper.org%3E
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