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Hi,
I have an HP Color LaserJet CP1515n printer since 2008-09.
It has printed a total of 6339, according to itself. Not many pages for
a laser, but for all these years it simply printed when I wanted it. No
more ink trouble. I'm happy, it was a good purchase. 262re4 at the time.
Coincidentally, the printer warns that the toner has run out. It does
this from the page count, so it may be able to print a few hundred pages
more before I notice printouts are going bad.
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the
back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily.
Then I printed the second batch (the reverse side of an instruction
book, first the odd pages, then the even pages, because this printer
doesn't do two sides), and after 50 pages, 10 pages from the end, it
claimed there was a jam. I repeated the procedure, no go. The noises it
made seem like it is unable to grab the paper from the tray. So I
powered it down, then up, and in the computer I repeated the print job
for the 10 remaining pages, but changed the tray to number 1, which is
the manual intake, 1 page at a time, and I could finish the job.
What do you think it is going on?
Maybe the paper (110 grams/m-#, explorer from www.explorer-paper.com) is
not to its liking? It did not complain before. Try another paper. I just
did that (80 gr/m-# plain supermarket paper) and it worked perfectly,
printed a sample print page silently. I don't have anything longer to
print now.
Some roller broke down, rubber too old?
At the price of a printer, a repair is not worth it. Maybe time to buy another one.
Hi,
I have an HP Color LaserJet CP1515n printer since 2008-09.
It has printed a total of 6339, according to itself. Not many pages for
a laser, but for all these years it simply printed when I wanted it. No
more ink trouble. I'm happy, it was a good purchase. 262C at the time.
Coincidentally, the printer warns that the toner has run out. It does
this from the page count, so it may be able to print a few hundred pages >more before I notice printouts are going bad.
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the >back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily.
Then I printed the second batch (the reverse side of an instruction
book, first the odd pages, then the even pages, because this printer
doesn't do two sides), and after 50 pages, 10 pages from the end, it
claimed there was a jam. I repeated the procedure, no go. The noises it
made seem like it is unable to grab the paper from the tray. So I
powered it down, then up, and in the computer I repeated the print job
for the 10 remaining pages, but changed the tray to number 1, which is
the manual intake, 1 page at a time, and I could finish the job.
What do you think it is going on?
Maybe the paper (110 grams/m#, explorer from www.explorer-paper.com) is--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
not to its liking? It did not complain before. Try another paper. I just
did that (80 gr/m# plain supermarket paper) and it worked perfectly,
printed a sample print page silently. I don't have anything longer to
print now.
Some roller broke down, rubber too old?
At the price of a printer, a repair is not worth it. Maybe time to buy >another one.
In sci.electronics.repair, on Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:23:59 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Hi,
I have an HP Color LaserJet CP1515n printer since 2008-09.
It has printed a total of 6339, according to itself. Not many pages for
a laser, but for all these years it simply printed when I wanted it. No >>more ink trouble. I'm happy, it was a good purchase. 262? at the time.
Coincidentally, the printer warns that the toner has run out. It does
this from the page count, so it may be able to print a few hundred pages >>more before I notice printouts are going bad.
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the >>back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily. >>
Then I printed the second batch (the reverse side of an instruction
book, first the odd pages, then the even pages, because this printer >>doesn't do two sides), and after 50 pages, 10 pages from the end, it >>claimed there was a jam. I repeated the procedure, no go. The noises it >>made seem like it is unable to grab the paper from the tray. So I
powered it down, then up, and in the computer I repeated the print job
for the 10 remaining pages, but changed the tray to number 1, which is
the manual intake, 1 page at a time, and I could finish the job.
What do you think it is going on?
I have an Epson all-in-one inkjet printer that says it has a paper jamp.
I've looked all over, can't find any paper in it. Also can't find the
jam sensors so I could cut or short circuit one of them.
I've had the thing, broken, for 5 or 10 years now. When I have time I
will try to fix it again.
Maybe the paper (110 grams/m-#, explorer from www.explorer-paper.com) is >>not to its liking? It did not complain before. Try another paper. I just >>did that (80 gr/m-# plain supermarket paper) and it worked perfectly, >>printed a sample print page silently. I don't have anything longer to >>print now.
Some roller broke down, rubber too old?
At the price of a printer, a repair is not worth it. Maybe time to buy >>another one.
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the >back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In sci.electronics.repair, on Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:23:59 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Jeff's advice in the previous post is worth trying. Printers depend on
very specific surface properties of the paper-pickup rolls. Accumulated
dust and lint, or loss of volatile plasticizers in the rubber, lead to
the rolls getting slick and not grabbing the paper correctly.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:23:59 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the
back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily.
There are various plastic "paddle" sensors along the paper path that
are used to detect paper jams or misfeeds. If the rubber paper feed
roller slips slightly when trying to feet a page, the printer will
detect that the paper is "late". The printer then declares a paper
jam. If it correctly feeds a few pages, but then jams, my guess would
be the same as the other Jeff's. You might have lint, dust, clay
paper coating, loose toner, shreded paper, insects, etc that are
causing the rubber rollers to slip on the paper.
For the CP1515, it's likely that the rubber has been polished smooth
by the slightly abrasive paper. That will also make the roller slip.
Try removing the rubber part of the roller from the plastic drum and
flipping it over. That should give the roller a 2nd life. However,
what works every time is to purchase and install a rebuild kit. At a minimum, you need at least the feed roller RM1-4426 and the separation
roller RM1-4425. For example: <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=cp1515%20rebuild%20kit>
I can think of a few uncommon failures that might cause a paper jam indication. Try roller cleaning and replacement before we go down the
rabbit hole.
On 2025-04-17 20:56, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:23:59 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the >>> back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,There are various plastic "paddle" sensors along the paper path that
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily. >>
are used to detect paper jams or misfeeds. If the rubber paper feed
roller slips slightly when trying to feet a page, the printer will
detect that the paper is "late". The printer then declares a paper
jam. If it correctly feeds a few pages, but then jams, my guess would
be the same as the other Jeff's. You might have lint, dust, clay
paper coating, loose toner, shreded paper, insects, etc that are
causing the rubber rollers to slip on the paper.
For the CP1515, it's likely that the rubber has been polished smooth
by the slightly abrasive paper. That will also make the roller slip.
Try removing the rubber part of the roller from the plastic drum and
flipping it over. That should give the roller a 2nd life. However,
what works every time is to purchase and install a rebuild kit. At a
minimum, you need at least the feed roller RM1-4426 and the separation
roller RM1-4425. For example:
<https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=cp1515%20rebuild%20kit>
I can think of a few uncommon failures that might cause a paper jam
indication. Try roller cleaning and replacement before we go down the
rabbit hole.
Well, your explanation allows me to understand what is going on, but I
don't think I would be able to disassemble the thing.
Problem is, reaching that roller is very hard. I might have to open up
the printer, risking not been able to assemble it again.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Problem is, reaching that roller is very hard. I might have to open up
the printer, risking not been able to assemble it again.
What have you got to lose, given the state of the printer?
The suggestion of wetting a sheet of paper with your choice of solvent
sounds worth a try, at minimum.
It isn't necessary to take the rollers out, just access them enough
to squirt solvent on them. One of the long-reach nozzled found on
aerosol brake or carb cleaner will at least help. If you can wipe
them off that'd be better of course.
The idea of a faulty paper sensor didn't cross my mind. I didn't think
they'd be mechanical, but in any case they're worth looking for. A bit
of lint on a photocell could conceivably be the culprit.
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
For the CP1515, it's likely that the rubber has been polished smooth
by the slightly abrasive pape
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Problem is, reaching that roller is very hard. I might have to open up
the printer, risking not been able to assemble it again.
What have you got to lose, given the state of the printer?
The suggestion of wetting a sheet of paper with your choice of solvent
sounds worth a try, at minimum.
It isn't necessary to take the rollers out, just access them enough
to squirt solvent on them. One of the long-reach nozzled found on
aerosol brake or carb cleaner will at least help. If you can wipe
them off that'd be better of course.
The idea of a faulty paper sensor didn't cross my mind. I didn't think
they'd be mechanical, but in any case they're worth looking for. A bit
of lint on a photocell could conceivably be the culprit.
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
On 17/04/2025 21:02, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-04-17 20:56, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:23:59 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer,
the
back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing
happily.
There are various plastic "paddle" sensors along the paper path that
are used to detect paper jams or misfeeds.-a If the rubber paper feed
roller slips slightly when trying to feet a page, the printer will
detect that the paper is "late".-a The printer then declares a paper
jam.-a If it correctly feeds a few pages, but then jams, my guess would
be the same as the other Jeff's.-a You might have lint, dust, clay
paper coating, loose toner, shreded paper, insects, etc that are
causing the rubber rollers to slip on the paper.
For the CP1515, it's likely that the rubber has been polished smooth
by the slightly abrasive paper.-a That will also make the roller slip.
Try removing the rubber part of the roller from the plastic drum and
flipping it over.-a That should give the roller a 2nd life.-a However,
what works every time is to purchase and install a rebuild kit.-a At a
minimum, you need at least the feed roller RM1-4426 and the separation
roller RM1-4425. For example:
<https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=cp1515%20rebuild%20kit>
I can think of a few uncommon failures that might cause a paper jam
indication.-a Try roller cleaning and replacement before we go down the
rabbit hole.
Well, your explanation allows me to understand what is going on, but I
don't think I would be able to disassemble the thing.
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No disassembly required.
In sci.electronics.repair, on Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:56:59 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
For the CP1515, it's likely that the rubber has been polished smooth
by the slightly abrasive pape
No time to answer all parts of your post, but I've read that paper is so abrasive that using scissors to cut paper will dull the scissors.
Amazing.
On 2025-04-17 23:11, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 17/04/2025 21:02, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-04-17 20:56, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:23:59 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, >>>>> the
back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again, >>>>> the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing
happily.
There are various plastic "paddle" sensors along the paper path that
are used to detect paper jams or misfeeds.-a If the rubber paper feed
roller slips slightly when trying to feet a page, the printer will
detect that the paper is "late".-a The printer then declares a paper
jam.-a If it correctly feeds a few pages, but then jams, my guess would >>>> be the same as the other Jeff's.-a You might have lint, dust, clay
paper coating, loose toner, shreded paper, insects, etc that are
causing the rubber rollers to slip on the paper.
For the CP1515, it's likely that the rubber has been polished smooth
by the slightly abrasive paper.-a That will also make the roller slip. >>>> Try removing the rubber part of the roller from the plastic drum and
flipping it over.-a That should give the roller a 2nd life.-a However, >>>> what works every time is to purchase and install a rebuild kit.-a At a >>>> minimum, you need at least the feed roller RM1-4426 and the separation >>>> roller RM1-4425. For example:
<https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=cp1515%20rebuild%20kit>
I can think of a few uncommon failures that might cause a paper jam
indication.-a Try roller cleaning and replacement before we go down the >>>> rabbit hole.
Well, your explanation allows me to understand what is going on, but I
don't think I would be able to disassemble the thing.
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No
disassembly required.
Won't it damage the... what's the name, toner cylinders when the paper
gets to that section?
I might be able to reach the roller with my hand and tissue paper or a brush.
On 2025-04-18 03:28, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Problem is, reaching that roller is very hard. I might have to open up
the printer, risking not been able to assemble it again.
What have you got to lose, given the state of the printer?
I will try first with a different brand of paper, and less weight, while
I try to find the solvent.
On 2025-04-18 15:03, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-04-18 03:28, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Problem is, reaching that roller is very hard. I might have to open up >>> the printer, risking not been able to assemble it again.
What have you got to lose, given the state of the printer?
I will try first with a different brand of paper, and less weight, while
I try to find the solvent.
I just printed a job of 6 pages, lighter paper (80 grams/m-") and it went fine :-)
Seeking isopropyl alcohol meanwhile [...] found two candidates on Amazon.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-04-18 15:03, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-04-18 03:28, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Problem is, reaching that roller is very hard. I might have to open up >>>>> the printer, risking not been able to assemble it again.
What have you got to lose, given the state of the printer?
I will try first with a different brand of paper, and less weight, while >>> I try to find the solvent.
I just printed a job of 6 pages, lighter paper (80 grams/m|e") and it went >> fine :-)
Seeking isopropyl alcohol meanwhile [...] found two candidates on Amazon.
Be sure to get high-purity isopropanol, not "rubbing alcohol" which is contaminated.
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No >disassembly required.
Huh, I just noticed in Firefox an option to copy link removing tracking >information :-)
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:11:20 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No
disassembly required.
No. Not alcohol. What makes rubber useful is that it is ductile
(easily stretched without breaking or lowering in material strength).
If you "wash" rubber with alcohol, the oils that give rubber its
ductile nature will evaporate, cause the rubber to dry out, and
eventually make it hard as a rock. Gasoline does the same thing to
fuel lines but takes years for the rubber to harden.
If you want to use chemistry instead of just replacing the part, I
suggest some made for the purpose: <https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2> For example: <https://www.precisionroller.com/category/rubber-rejuvenators.htm>
I stuff I use is ancient and no longer sold. It's 70% xylene (banned
in California) and 30% wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate). The
xylene causes the pores in the rubber to enlarge. The oil fills the
pores. The xylene evaporates at a moderately fast rate, leaving the
oil behind inside the rubber roller. As long as the rubber isn't
damaged or polished smooth, the rejuvenated rubber should last a few
years (not as long as new rubber).
On 2025-04-19 23:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:11:20 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No
disassembly required.
No. Not alcohol. What makes rubber useful is that it is ductile
(easily stretched without breaking or lowering in material strength).
If you "wash" rubber with alcohol, the oils that give rubber its
ductile nature will evaporate, cause the rubber to dry out, and
eventually make it hard as a rock. Gasoline does the same thing to
fuel lines but takes years for the rubber to harden.
If you want to use chemistry instead of just replacing the part, I
suggest some made for the purpose:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2> >> For example:
<https://www.precisionroller.com/category/rubber-rejuvenators.htm>
I stuff I use is ancient and no longer sold. It's 70% xylene (banned
in California) and 30% wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate). The
xylene causes the pores in the rubber to enlarge. The oil fills the
pores. The xylene evaporates at a moderately fast rate, leaving the
oil behind inside the rubber roller. As long as the rubber isn't
damaged or polished smooth, the rejuvenated rubber should last a few
years (not as long as new rubber).
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the
car instead.
[...]
Got one, but it is "not available".
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0BL85QPZC>. It is the only one Google finds.
Got another, from the first link you posted, also not available: ><https://www.amazon.es/dp/B001AYVSCO>
Searching for the translated term in google instead "limpiador rodillo
de impresora"... finally, found something that does ship, although not
from Amazon:
<https://www.amazon.es/Ewent-EW5617-Pulverizador-Limpieza-Transparente/dp/B07FYT8CF4>
Gosh, handling and shipping is more expensive than the product itself.
I'll keep seeking.
Hi,
I have an HP Color LaserJet CP1515n printer since 2008-09.
It has printed a total of 6339, according to itself. Not many pages for
a laser, but for all these years it simply printed when I wanted it. No
more ink trouble. I'm happy, it was a good purchase. 262re4 at the time.
Coincidentally, the printer warns that the toner has run out. It does
this from the page count, so it may be able to print a few hundred pages more before I notice printouts are going bad.
But today it claimed to have a paper jam. I opened the paper drawer, the back panel, the toner drawer. No paper jam at all. I closed it again,
the printer tried again, and after two tries it continued printing happily.
Then I printed the second batch (the reverse side of an instruction
book, first the odd pages, then the even pages, because this printer
doesn't do two sides), and after 50 pages, 10 pages from the end, it
claimed there was a jam. I repeated the procedure, no go. The noises it
made seem like it is unable to grab the paper from the tray. So I
powered it down, then up, and in the computer I repeated the print job
for the 10 remaining pages, but changed the tray to number 1, which is
the manual intake, 1 page at a time, and I could finish the job.
What do you think it is going on?
Maybe the paper (110 grams/m-#, explorer from www.explorer-paper.com) is
not to its liking? It did not complain before. Try another paper. I just
did that (80 gr/m-# plain supermarket paper) and it worked perfectly, printed a sample print page silently. I don't have anything longer to
print now.
Some roller broke down, rubber too old?
At the price of a printer, a repair is not worth it. Maybe time to buy another one.
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 01:38:50 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-04-19 23:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:11:20 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No
disassembly required.
No. Not alcohol. What makes rubber useful is that it is ductile
(easily stretched without breaking or lowering in material strength).
If you "wash" rubber with alcohol, the oils that give rubber its
ductile nature will evaporate, cause the rubber to dry out, and
eventually make it hard as a rock. Gasoline does the same thing to
fuel lines but takes years for the rubber to harden.
If you want to use chemistry instead of just replacing the part, I
suggest some made for the purpose:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2>
For example:
<https://www.precisionroller.com/category/rubber-rejuvenators.htm>
I stuff I use is ancient and no longer sold. It's 70% xylene (banned
in California) and 30% wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate). The
xylene causes the pores in the rubber to enlarge. The oil fills the
pores. The xylene evaporates at a moderately fast rate, leaving the
oil behind inside the rubber roller. As long as the rubber isn't
damaged or polished smooth, the rejuvenated rubber should last a few
years (not as long as new rubber).
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the
car instead.
[...]
Got one, but it is "not available".
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0BL85QPZC>. It is the only one Google finds.
Got another, from the first link you posted, also not available:
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B001AYVSCO>
Searching for the translated term in google instead "limpiador rodillo
de impresora"... finally, found something that does ship, although not >>from Amazon:
<https://www.amazon.es/Ewent-EW5617-Pulverizador-Limpieza-Transparente/dp/B07FYT8CF4>
Gosh, handling and shipping is more expensive than the product itself.
I'll keep seeking.
Try again using the first search I listed above: <https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2> <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer>
I like to search by photos first because I usually recognize some of
the common products and can read the labels on the bottle or can.
Besides restorer, also try rejuvenator, renewer, revitalizer, cleaner
and softener.
On 2025-04-19 5:52 p.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 01:38:50 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-04-19 23:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:11:20 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote:
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of >>>>> paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No >>>>> disassembly required.
No. Not alcohol. What makes rubber useful is that it is ductile
(easily stretched without breaking or lowering in material strength).
If you "wash" rubber with alcohol, the oils that give rubber its
ductile nature will evaporate, cause the rubber to dry out, and
eventually make it hard as a rock. Gasoline does the same thing to
fuel lines but takes years for the rubber to harden.
If you want to use chemistry instead of just replacing the part, I
suggest some made for the purpose:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2>
For example:
<https://www.precisionroller.com/category/rubber-rejuvenators.htm>
I stuff I use is ancient and no longer sold. It's 70% xylene (banned
in California) and 30% wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate). The
xylene causes the pores in the rubber to enlarge. The oil fills the
pores. The xylene evaporates at a moderately fast rate, leaving the
oil behind inside the rubber roller. As long as the rubber isn't
damaged or polished smooth, the rejuvenated rubber should last a few
years (not as long as new rubber).
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the
car instead.
[...]
Got one, but it is "not available".
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0BL85QPZC>. It is the only one Google finds.
Got another, from the first link you posted, also not available:
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B001AYVSCO>
Searching for the translated term in google instead "limpiador rodillo
de impresora"... finally, found something that does ship, although not >>>from Amazon:
<https://www.amazon.es/Ewent-EW5617-Pulverizador-Limpieza-Transparente/dp/B07FYT8CF4>
Gosh, handling and shipping is more expensive than the product itself.
I'll keep seeking.
Try again using the first search I listed above:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2> >> <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer> >> I like to search by photos first because I usually recognize some of
the common products and can read the labels on the bottle or can.
Besides restorer, also try rejuvenator, renewer, revitalizer, cleaner
and softener.
Rubber Renue by MG Chemicals: >https://mgchemicals.com/products/electronics-maintenance/specialized-cleaners/rubber-renue/
Wintergreen Oil is the same thing, just not so easily found.
John :-#)#--
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 01:38:50 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-04-19 23:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:11:20 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No
disassembly required.
No. Not alcohol. What makes rubber useful is that it is ductile
(easily stretched without breaking or lowering in material strength).
If you "wash" rubber with alcohol, the oils that give rubber its
ductile nature will evaporate, cause the rubber to dry out, and
eventually make it hard as a rock. Gasoline does the same thing to
fuel lines but takes years for the rubber to harden.
If you want to use chemistry instead of just replacing the part, I
suggest some made for the purpose:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2>
For example:
<https://www.precisionroller.com/category/rubber-rejuvenators.htm>
I stuff I use is ancient and no longer sold. It's 70% xylene (banned
in California) and 30% wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate). The
xylene causes the pores in the rubber to enlarge. The oil fills the
pores. The xylene evaporates at a moderately fast rate, leaving the
oil behind inside the rubber roller. As long as the rubber isn't
damaged or polished smooth, the rejuvenated rubber should last a few
years (not as long as new rubber).
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the
car instead.
[...]
Got one, but it is "not available".
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0BL85QPZC>. It is the only one Google finds.
Got another, from the first link you posted, also not available:
<https://www.amazon.es/dp/B001AYVSCO>
Searching for the translated term in google instead "limpiador rodillo
de impresora"... finally, found something that does ship, although not >>from Amazon:
<https://www.amazon.es/Ewent-EW5617-Pulverizador-Limpieza-Transparente/dp/B07FYT8CF4>
Gosh, handling and shipping is more expensive than the product itself.
I'll keep seeking.
Try again using the first search I listed above:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2> <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer>
I like to search by photos first because I usually recognize some of
the common products and can read the labels on the bottle or can.
Besides restorer, also try rejuvenator, renewer, revitalizer, cleaner
and softener.
On 2025-04-20 02:52, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 01:38:50 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the
car instead.
Try again using the first search I listed above:
I did that. But nothing this side of the pond. One of them I found
adverts in my country. I have to investigate those.
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 21:00:07 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-04-20 02:52, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 01:38:50 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the >>>> car instead.
If it's listed for use on automotive rubber parts, it will probably
also work on rubber printer rollers.
Try again using the first search I listed above:
I did that. But nothing this side of the pond. One of them I found
adverts in my country. I have to investigate those.
I find it difficult to believe that there is no rubber restorer
available in Spain. Farnell sells in Spain: <https://es.farnell.com/en-ES/electrolube/rrr250/cleaner-roller-restorer-250ml/dp/1841557>
Also, try asking people who might be using Wintergreen Oil such as practitioners of aroma therapy, beauty parlors, alternative medicine,
etc.
One possible reason for the lack of availability might be that there
are shipping or mailing restrictions or regulations. Wintergreen Oil
is somewhat toxic:
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2859737/>--
"Methyl salicylate (oil of wintergreen) contains more salicylate than
other salicylates; 5 ml methyl salicylate is equivalent to five
aspirin tablets (325 mg each)."
If you have a local automotive body shop, they probably use some kind
of rubber restorer to repair UL hardened rubbers, such as the trim
around windows. Maybe they have a clue.
On 2025-04-19 23:29, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:11:20 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
You could try that tonerbuzz tip of soaking the centre of a sheet of
paper with alcohol and running it a few times through the printer. No
disassembly required.
No.-a Not alcohol.-a What makes rubber useful is that it is ductile
(easily stretched without breaking or lowering in material strength).
If you "wash" rubber with alcohol, the oils that give rubber its
ductile nature will evaporate, cause the rubber to dry out, and
eventually make it hard as a rock.-a Gasoline does the same thing to
fuel lines but takes years for the rubber to harden.
If you want to use chemistry instead of just replacing the part, I
suggest some made for the purpose:
<https://www.google.com/search?
q=printer%20rubber%20roller%20restorer&udm=2>
For example:
<https://www.precisionroller.com/category/rubber-rejuvenators.htm>
I stuff I use is ancient and no longer sold.-a It's 70% xylene (banned
in California) and 30% wintergreen oil (methyl salicylate).-a The
xylene causes the pores in the rubber to enlarge.-a The oil fills the
pores.-a The xylene evaporates at a moderately fast rate, leaving the
oil behind inside the rubber roller.-a As long as the rubber isn't
damaged or polished smooth, the rejuvenated rubber should last a few
years (not as long as new rubber).
If I search "Rubber Rejuvenators" in Amazon.es, I get products for the
car instead.
[...]
Got one, but it is "not available". <https://www.amazon.es/dp/
B0BL85QPZC>. It is the only one Google finds.
Got another, from the first link you posted, also not available: <https://www.amazon.es/dp/B001AYVSCO>
Searching for the translated term in google instead "limpiador rodillo
de impresora"... finally, found something that does ship, although not
from Amazon:
<https://www.amazon.es/Ewent-EW5617-Pulverizador-Limpieza-Transparente/ dp/B07FYT8CF4>
Gosh, handling and shipping is more expensive than the product itself.
I'll keep seeking.