• Re: OT: "We Got Him!"

    From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Sep 26 02:16:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 26/09/2025 12:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:46:48 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 25/09/2025 3:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 18:25:39 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 24/09/2025 4:36 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>
    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>


    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual >>>>>> suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how >>>>>> wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all >>>>>> like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where >>>>>> there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many >>>>>> erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were >>>>>> written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much >>>>>> nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or >>>>>> quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the >>>>>> Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's >>>>>> what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on
    lately.

    Donald Trump is a singularly unpleasant character. He appeals to his
    followers because they are heartily sick of people like Donald Trump
    ripping them off, and silly enough to believe his lying claims that he >>>> is going to reform the system.

    His vengeful habits and his tendency to persecute people who don't give >>>> him the flattery he thinks he deserves do generate increasingly nasty - >>>> if perfectly justifiable - comment. Get used to it. It isn't going to
    stop until he is impeached. Assassinating him wouldn't help - he'd just >>>> be replaced by somebody even more unpleasant. He needs to be rejected in >>>> disgrace.

    Gosh, what a nasty person you are.

    Nowhere near as nasty as you are. You do share his enthusiasm for
    abusing people who don't give you the flattery you feel you deserve.

    Did you ever get an oscilloscope?

    The last time I needed one a friend in Scotland (not John May) sent me a
    small Windows program that used the audio jack on my computer to
    digitise incoming signals, store them, and display them on the computer
    screen. It wasn't anywhere near as good as a Tek 2335, but it did what I
    needed at the time.

    If I saw any prospect of making money out of electronics, I would buy
    something (I've got a fairly slow computer plugin around somewhere, but
    it is old, very slow and only 12-bit and probably not good enough for
    anything that might make money today).

    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Me too, though I'm more interested in collaborating with interesting
    people to put together stuff that is useful in the real world.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    Doing good electronics means spending appreciable amounts of money. If
    the electronics that gets put together can do useful stuff it can earn
    quite a bit more than it costs to put together. Finding the applications
    that can earn useful amounts of money is crucial and I'm totally crap at
    that.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Thu Sep 25 18:00:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    [...]
    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    I do it for fun too - but the side effect is usually a loss of money.
    What am I doing wrong?
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Sep 25 10:09:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 02:16:13 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 26/09/2025 12:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:46:48 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 25/09/2025 3:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 18:25:39 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 24/09/2025 4:36 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>


    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual >>>>>>> suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how
    wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all >>>>>>> like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where >>>>>>> there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many
    erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were >>>>>>> written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much >>>>>>> nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or >>>>>>> quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the >>>>>>> Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's >>>>>>> what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on
    lately.

    Donald Trump is a singularly unpleasant character. He appeals to his >>>>> followers because they are heartily sick of people like Donald Trump >>>>> ripping them off, and silly enough to believe his lying claims that he >>>>> is going to reform the system.

    His vengeful habits and his tendency to persecute people who don't give >>>>> him the flattery he thinks he deserves do generate increasingly nasty - >>>>> if perfectly justifiable - comment. Get used to it. It isn't going to >>>>> stop until he is impeached. Assassinating him wouldn't help - he'd just >>>>> be replaced by somebody even more unpleasant. He needs to be rejected in >>>>> disgrace.

    Gosh, what a nasty person you are.

    Nowhere near as nasty as you are. You do share his enthusiasm for
    abusing people who don't give you the flattery you feel you deserve.

    Did you ever get an oscilloscope?

    The last time I needed one a friend in Scotland (not John May) sent me a >>> small Windows program that used the audio jack on my computer to
    digitise incoming signals, store them, and display them on the computer
    screen. It wasn't anywhere near as good as a Tek 2335, but it did what I >>> needed at the time.

    If I saw any prospect of making money out of electronics, I would buy
    something (I've got a fairly slow computer plugin around somewhere, but
    it is old, very slow and only 12-bit and probably not good enough for
    anything that might make money today).

    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Me too, though I'm more interested in collaborating with interesting
    people to put together stuff that is useful in the real world.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    Doing good electronics means spending appreciable amounts of money. If
    the electronics that gets put together can do useful stuff it can earn
    quite a bit more than it costs to put together. Finding the applications >that can earn useful amounts of money is crucial and I'm totally crap at >that.

    It's crazy how cheap parts and test equipment are now. A 15 MHz scope
    used to cost more than a Chevrolet; now a 100M scope costs lunch
    money.

    If I didn't have a job, I'd be researching industries that need
    electronics, visit some, learn about them, and offer to design stuff
    for free. Then I'd have a base for expansion.

    I'd expect that the combination of physical chemistry and electronic
    design could seem useful.

    But you'd have to be friendly and helpful for that to work.

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Sep 25 11:42:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:00:27 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    [...]
    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    I do it for fun too - but the side effect is usually a loss of money.
    What am I doing wrong?

    One idea is to avoid competition. And it's fun to do stuff that not
    many people have done so far, or done badly.

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Sep 25 18:02:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/23/2025 2:36 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Okay, let's call them the 'Rabid Left' then. I'm talking of the
    creatures who inhabit the Bluesky platform and were not only overcome
    with unbridled joy at Charlie's murder, but were calling for it to be
    the starting gun for a new murderous purge of anyone not sharing their >>>> bizarre and toxic delusions. The fact that they exist but you cannot
    admit that undeniable fact speaks volumes about your fundamental
    honesty (or lack thereof).


    The killer of Charles Kirk is a very intelligent young lad, with
    hardly an interest in politics. Apparently he was struck by the
    absolute hateful and negative influence Kirk had and he decided
    to do something about it.
    Fortunately (?) his upbringing in a gun-loving family gave him the
    means and training to take Kirk out.
    The marxist view is that those type of killings mostly backfire,
    it gives the opponent a claim they are right and escalate to
    more violence.

    In this case at least a positive effect is that everybody thinks that
    Israel was to blame (and maybe it is after all).

    Groetjes Albert

    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual
    suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how
    wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all
    like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where
    there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many
    erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were
    written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much
    nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or
    quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the
    Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's
    what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on
    lately.

    They don't show much footage of him or quote him at his own memorial.
    I think he was almost always too repulsive and barbaric to quote, e.g.
    there should be public executions and children should watch them:

    <https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073>

    Public executions for children to watch? Is this the "Western
    Civilization" I've heard about? It doesn't seem worth defending if so.


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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Sep 26 16:41:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 26/09/2025 3:09 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 02:16:13 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 26/09/2025 12:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:46:48 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 25/09/2025 3:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 18:25:39 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 24/09/2025 4:36 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>


    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual >>>>>>>> suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how
    wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all
    like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where >>>>>>>> there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many
    erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were >>>>>>>> written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much
    nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or >>>>>>>> quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the >>>>>>>> Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's
    what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on
    lately.

    Donald Trump is a singularly unpleasant character. He appeals to his >>>>>> followers because they are heartily sick of people like Donald Trump >>>>>> ripping them off, and silly enough to believe his lying claims that he >>>>>> is going to reform the system.

    His vengeful habits and his tendency to persecute people who don't give >>>>>> him the flattery he thinks he deserves do generate increasingly nasty - >>>>>> if perfectly justifiable - comment. Get used to it. It isn't going to >>>>>> stop until he is impeached. Assassinating him wouldn't help - he'd just >>>>>> be replaced by somebody even more unpleasant. He needs to be rejected in >>>>>> disgrace.

    Gosh, what a nasty person you are.

    Nowhere near as nasty as you are. You do share his enthusiasm for
    abusing people who don't give you the flattery you feel you deserve.

    Did you ever get an oscilloscope?

    The last time I needed one a friend in Scotland (not John May) sent me a >>>> small Windows program that used the audio jack on my computer to
    digitise incoming signals, store them, and display them on the computer >>>> screen. It wasn't anywhere near as good as a Tek 2335, but it did what I >>>> needed at the time.

    If I saw any prospect of making money out of electronics, I would buy
    something (I've got a fairly slow computer plugin around somewhere, but >>>> it is old, very slow and only 12-bit and probably not good enough for
    anything that might make money today).

    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Me too, though I'm more interested in collaborating with interesting
    people to put together stuff that is useful in the real world.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    Doing good electronics means spending appreciable amounts of money. If
    the electronics that gets put together can do useful stuff it can earn
    quite a bit more than it costs to put together. Finding the applications
    that can earn useful amounts of money is crucial and I'm totally crap at
    that.

    It's crazy how cheap parts and test equipment are now. A 15 MHz scope
    used to cost more than a Chevrolet; now a 100M scope costs lunch
    money.

    If I didn't have a job, I'd be researching industries that need
    electronics, visit some, learn about them, and offer to design stuff
    for free. Then I'd have a base for expansion.

    Why bother? Industries that need that kind of help advertise for
    electronic engineers, Sadly, most of them filter the responses they get through a personnel department or a hiring agencies which knows nothing
    about electronic engineering.

    Visiting the industries would take more effort - you've got to get
    through the equivalent of a personnel department before you can talk to anybody who might be interested (who have better things to do with their
    time than talking to random strangers).

    I'd expect that the combination of physical chemistry and electronic
    design could seem useful.

    But being aged 82 devalues that.

    But you'd have to be friendly and helpful for that to work.

    I can manage that, except when dealing with people with inflated ideas
    of their own competence. They don't want to be helped because they are convinced that they know it all already, and expect the help to
    implement their brilliant ideas, rather than point that there may be a
    better way.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Fri Sep 26 09:07:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:00:27 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    [...]
    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    I do it for fun too - but the side effect is usually a loss of money.
    What am I doing wrong?

    One idea is to avoid competition. And it's fun to do stuff that not
    many people have done so far, or done badly.

    Done that - but the reason not many people have done it is usually
    because not many people want the result. Also, if it has been done
    badly in the past, there is a perception that that is the only way it
    can be done, so people just dismiss your claim to hace done it better.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Sep 26 07:45:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 16:41:26 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 26/09/2025 3:09 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 02:16:13 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 26/09/2025 12:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:46:48 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 25/09/2025 3:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 18:25:39 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 24/09/2025 4:36 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>


    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual >>>>>>>>> suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how
    wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all
    like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where >>>>>>>>> there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many
    erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were >>>>>>>>> written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much
    nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or >>>>>>>>> quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the
    Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's
    what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on >>>>>>>> lately.

    Donald Trump is a singularly unpleasant character. He appeals to his >>>>>>> followers because they are heartily sick of people like Donald Trump >>>>>>> ripping them off, and silly enough to believe his lying claims that he >>>>>>> is going to reform the system.

    His vengeful habits and his tendency to persecute people who don't give >>>>>>> him the flattery he thinks he deserves do generate increasingly nasty - >>>>>>> if perfectly justifiable - comment. Get used to it. It isn't going to >>>>>>> stop until he is impeached. Assassinating him wouldn't help - he'd just >>>>>>> be replaced by somebody even more unpleasant. He needs to be rejected in
    disgrace.

    Gosh, what a nasty person you are.

    Nowhere near as nasty as you are. You do share his enthusiasm for
    abusing people who don't give you the flattery you feel you deserve. >>>>>
    Did you ever get an oscilloscope?

    The last time I needed one a friend in Scotland (not John May) sent me a >>>>> small Windows program that used the audio jack on my computer to
    digitise incoming signals, store them, and display them on the computer >>>>> screen. It wasn't anywhere near as good as a Tek 2335, but it did what I >>>>> needed at the time.

    If I saw any prospect of making money out of electronics, I would buy >>>>> something (I've got a fairly slow computer plugin around somewhere, but >>>>> it is old, very slow and only 12-bit and probably not good enough for >>>>> anything that might make money today).

    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Me too, though I'm more interested in collaborating with interesting
    people to put together stuff that is useful in the real world.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    Doing good electronics means spending appreciable amounts of money. If
    the electronics that gets put together can do useful stuff it can earn
    quite a bit more than it costs to put together. Finding the applications >>> that can earn useful amounts of money is crucial and I'm totally crap at >>> that.

    It's crazy how cheap parts and test equipment are now. A 15 MHz scope
    used to cost more than a Chevrolet; now a 100M scope costs lunch
    money.

    If I didn't have a job, I'd be researching industries that need
    electronics, visit some, learn about them, and offer to design stuff
    for free. Then I'd have a base for expansion.

    Why bother? Industries that need that kind of help advertise for
    electronic engineers, Sadly, most of them filter the responses they get >through a personnel department or a hiring agencies which knows nothing >about electronic engineering.

    Visiting the industries would take more effort - you've got to get
    through the equivalent of a personnel department before you can talk to >anybody who might be interested (who have better things to do with their >time than talking to random strangers).

    I'd expect that the combination of physical chemistry and electronic
    design could seem useful.

    But being aged 82 devalues that.

    But you'd have to be friendly and helpful for that to work.

    I can manage that, except when dealing with people with inflated ideas
    of their own competence. They don't want to be helped because they are >convinced that they know it all already, and expect the help to
    implement their brilliant ideas, rather than point that there may be a >better way.

    OK, specialize in pickleball or bingo or something.

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Sep 28 15:55:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 27/09/2025 12:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 16:41:26 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 26/09/2025 3:09 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 02:16:13 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 26/09/2025 12:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:46:48 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 25/09/2025 3:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 18:25:39 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 24/09/2025 4:36 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>


    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual >>>>>>>>>> suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how
    wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all
    like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where
    there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many
    erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were
    written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much
    nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or >>>>>>>>>> quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the
    Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's
    what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on >>>>>>>>> lately.

    Donald Trump is a singularly unpleasant character. He appeals to his >>>>>>>> followers because they are heartily sick of people like Donald Trump >>>>>>>> ripping them off, and silly enough to believe his lying claims that he >>>>>>>> is going to reform the system.

    His vengeful habits and his tendency to persecute people who don't give
    him the flattery he thinks he deserves do generate increasingly nasty -
    if perfectly justifiable - comment. Get used to it. It isn't going to >>>>>>>> stop until he is impeached. Assassinating him wouldn't help - he'd just
    be replaced by somebody even more unpleasant. He needs to be rejected in
    disgrace.

    Gosh, what a nasty person you are.

    Nowhere near as nasty as you are. You do share his enthusiasm for
    abusing people who don't give you the flattery you feel you deserve. >>>>>>
    Did you ever get an oscilloscope?

    The last time I needed one a friend in Scotland (not John May) sent me a >>>>>> small Windows program that used the audio jack on my computer to
    digitise incoming signals, store them, and display them on the computer >>>>>> screen. It wasn't anywhere near as good as a Tek 2335, but it did what I >>>>>> needed at the time.

    If I saw any prospect of making money out of electronics, I would buy >>>>>> something (I've got a fairly slow computer plugin around somewhere, but >>>>>> it is old, very slow and only 12-bit and probably not good enough for >>>>>> anything that might make money today).

    I don't do electronics for money. I do it for fun.

    Me too, though I'm more interested in collaborating with interesting
    people to put together stuff that is useful in the real world.

    Money is sometimes a side effect. That's OK.

    Doing good electronics means spending appreciable amounts of money. If >>>> the electronics that gets put together can do useful stuff it can earn >>>> quite a bit more than it costs to put together. Finding the applications >>>> that can earn useful amounts of money is crucial and I'm totally crap at >>>> that.

    It's crazy how cheap parts and test equipment are now. A 15 MHz scope
    used to cost more than a Chevrolet; now a 100M scope costs lunch
    money.

    If I didn't have a job, I'd be researching industries that need
    electronics, visit some, learn about them, and offer to design stuff
    for free. Then I'd have a base for expansion.

    Why bother? Industries that need that kind of help advertise for
    electronic engineers, Sadly, most of them filter the responses they get
    through a personnel department or a hiring agencies which knows nothing
    about electronic engineering.

    Visiting the industries would take more effort - you've got to get
    through the equivalent of a personnel department before you can talk to
    anybody who might be interested (who have better things to do with their
    time than talking to random strangers).

    I'd expect that the combination of physical chemistry and electronic
    design could seem useful.

    But being aged 82 devalues that.

    But you'd have to be friendly and helpful for that to work.

    I can manage that, except when dealing with people with inflated ideas
    of their own competence. They don't want to be helped because they are
    convinced that they know it all already, and expect the help to
    implement their brilliant ideas, rather than point that there may be a
    better way.

    OK, specialize in pickleball or bingo or something.

    There is objective evidence that I used to be good at electronics.
    I don't even know what pickleball is, and I've never shown any talent
    for bingo or taken part in it.

    Your own capacity for being friendly and helpful isn't impressive.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Sep 28 09:25:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:02:42 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/23/2025 2:36 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Okay, let's call them the 'Rabid Left' then. I'm talking of the
    creatures who inhabit the Bluesky platform and were not only overcome >>>>> with unbridled joy at Charlie's murder, but were calling for it to be >>>>> the starting gun for a new murderous purge of anyone not sharing their >>>>> bizarre and toxic delusions. The fact that they exist but you cannot >>>>> admit that undeniable fact speaks volumes about your fundamental
    honesty (or lack thereof).


    The killer of Charles Kirk is a very intelligent young lad, with
    hardly an interest in politics. Apparently he was struck by the
    absolute hateful and negative influence Kirk had and he decided
    to do something about it.
    Fortunately (?) his upbringing in a gun-loving family gave him the
    means and training to take Kirk out.
    The marxist view is that those type of killings mostly backfire,
    it gives the opponent a claim they are right and escalate to
    more violence.

    In this case at least a positive effect is that everybody thinks that
    Israel was to blame (and maybe it is after all).

    Groetjes Albert

    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual
    suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how >>> wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all
    like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where
    there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many >>> erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were
    written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much
    nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or
    quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the
    Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's
    what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on
    lately.

    They don't show much footage of him or quote him at his own memorial.
    I think he was almost always too repulsive and barbaric to quote, e.g.
    there should be public executions and children should watch them:

    <https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073>

    Public executions for children to watch? Is this the "Western
    Civilization" I've heard about? It doesn't seem worth defending if so.

    I prefer to hear what someone has to say for myself, rather than read
    some third-hand, third-rate 'report' from an obviously biased source
    such as Newsweek.
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Sep 28 20:17:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 28/09/2025 6:25 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:02:42 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/23/2025 2:36 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:52:32 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 9/21/2025 7:56 AM, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
    In article <09tackhdiqhbgebhfhm7k7vu0goakcg3t3@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Okay, let's call them the 'Rabid Left' then. I'm talking of the
    creatures who inhabit the Bluesky platform and were not only overcome >>>>>> with unbridled joy at Charlie's murder, but were calling for it to be >>>>>> the starting gun for a new murderous purge of anyone not sharing their >>>>>> bizarre and toxic delusions. The fact that they exist but you cannot >>>>>> admit that undeniable fact speaks volumes about your fundamental
    honesty (or lack thereof).


    The killer of Charles Kirk is a very intelligent young lad, with
    hardly an interest in politics. Apparently he was struck by the
    absolute hateful and negative influence Kirk had and he decided
    to do something about it.
    Fortunately (?) his upbringing in a gun-loving family gave him the
    means and training to take Kirk out.
    The marxist view is that those type of killings mostly backfire,
    it gives the opponent a claim they are right and escalate to
    more violence.

    In this case at least a positive effect is that everybody thinks that >>>>> Israel was to blame (and maybe it is after all).

    Groetjes Albert

    Charlie Kirk is strikingly absent from his own memorial. The usual
    suspects can prance around comparing him to Christ and talking about how >>>> wonderful he was and how good friends they all were but it's not at all >>>> like the memorial of someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or JFK where
    there'd be hours of televised footage of the deceased speaking, and many >>>> erudite sayings posted everywhere "and the words of the prophets were
    written on the subway walls.."

    Mainly because CK was a consistently spiteful bigot who rarely had much >>>> nice to say, and so there's very little footage of him speaking or
    quotes available that presents him as the Christ-like figure (lol) the >>>> Republicans want to present.

    He was a good friend of Don Trump and would do anything for him, that's >>>> what can be said. But he ain't no good to him no more.

    Gosh, what nasty people you are. There's a lot of that going on
    lately.

    They don't show much footage of him or quote him at his own memorial.
    I think he was almost always too repulsive and barbaric to quote, e.g.
    there should be public executions and children should watch them:

    <https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073>

    Public executions for children to watch? Is this the "Western
    Civilization" I've heard about? It doesn't seem worth defending if so.

    I prefer to hear what someone has to say for myself, rather than read
    some third-hand, third-rate 'report' from an obviously biased source
    such as Newsweek.

    Newsweek clearly didn't think well of Charlie Kirk, but the bias that
    this exhibits is toward sane and rational opinions.

    It doesn't strike me as "third rate" but if we rephrase the sentiment as Cursitor Doom only wanting to read opinions as biased and third rate as
    his own it does make more sense - or at least as close to sensible as
    Cursitor Dooom ever gets.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From chrisq@syseng@gfsys.co.uk to sci.electronics.design on Mon Oct 6 00:36:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/17/25 08:35, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 17/09/2025 12:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:25:27 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 16/09/2025 3:38 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 22:18:05 -0700, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-09-15 10:02 a.m., john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:22:02 +1000, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 13/09/2025 8:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:05:08 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--
    canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 19:08:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom
    <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Firing squad in Utah, IIRC. How fitting - and fully deserved >>>>>>>>>> for this
    hard Left, skinny, hate-filled punk.


    Are people getting crazier lately?

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    For a bit of objectivity, I asked AI and it's no misperception. I >>>>>>>> don't know how old you are, but I remember there was a string of >>>>>>>> political assassinations in the US during the 60s. However, by the >>>>>>>> early 70s, we seemed to have left that all behind, thankfully, >>>>>>>> for the
    next 40+ years (barring that one attempt on the Gipper in about >>>>>>>> '81).
    But now it seems it's back. The atmosphere is febrile and it's not >>>>>>>> just in America.
    We need to remember that open debate is the only way to move
    forward
    constructively. Have a civilized argument and don't get mad if you >>>>>>>> come off worse 'cos it's probable your ideas just don't stand up to >>>>>>>> scrutiny. Otherwise we risk becoming a banana republic like you >>>>>>>> see in
    places like Africa and S. America.

    And the USA. At least in Brazil they put Bolsonaro in prison for 27 >>>>>>> years for plotting a coup after he'd lost an election.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c147n38k800o

    Trump hasn't been prosecuted for trying to pull much the same
    stunt in
    January 2020, and - now that he is back in power - he is going
    after the
    people who were putting together a case against him for the
    damage he
    did back in 2020.

    Banana republics got that title because US fruit importers would use >>>>>>> their political influence to get the US to endorse military coups >>>>>>> that
    put regimes in power that would discourage banana growers from
    protesting about US exploitation.

    When Cuba was being exploited by greedy american corporations is was >>>>>> the wealthist country in Latin America. Since Castro liberated it, >>>>>> it's about the poorest.

    Now Cuba imports sugar.

    The US blockaded Cuba...read your history.

    The blockade lasted 13 days in 1962, to keep Soviet nukes out of Cuba. >>>>
    Cuba is free to trade with the entire rest of the world, but they
    still can't keep the lights on.

    That wasn't the only kind of blockade imposed. Cuba isn't remotely free
    to trade with the rest of the world.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68935247

    My Cajun daddy-in-law was a sugar cane farmer in Louisiana and owned a
    share in a local co-op sugar mill. That was interesting. We could fill
    up buckets with turbinado sugar, the amber-colored first-press
    unprocessed stuff. It was great. I still cook with turbo and it's
    great in coffee.

    He had a self-propelled cane cutter machine that was a fast as 50 guys
    with machetes. The only time they would cut by hand was if a hurricane
    had tangled the cane too much for the cutter to work right.

    I suppose that Cubans can't set up co-op mills. The Party owns
    everything, and that's all rotting.

    The point of the BBC story was that 24 mills were still working, even if
    29 weren't. The party and the workers can't conjure replacement parts
    out of thin air. They could get enough replacement parts to keep 24
    mills working, but the trade embargo was tight enough that that was all
    that they could manage.



    Speaking from England:

    Firstly, if you believe everything you hear from the BBC, then I have
    several bridges to sell you. Propaganda central, patronising,
    gaslighting and suppressing dissent, is their stock in trade. You need
    to get out a bit more.

    Second, if they can't get spare parts, why don't they just copy and make
    them themselves. Are they helpless, or what ?. Perhaps good old mother
    Russia will help them.

    Chris



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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Mon Oct 6 00:54:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/5/2025 7:36 PM, chrisq wrote:

    Speaking from England:

    Firstly, if you believe everything you hear from the BBC, then I have
    several bridges to sell you. Propaganda central, patronising,
    gaslighting and suppressing dissent, is their stock in trade. You need
    to get out a bit more.

    Second, if they can't get spare parts, why don't they just copy and make
    them themselves. Are they helpless, or what ?. Perhaps good old mother
    Russia will help them.

    Chris

    Man on train : Don't take that tone with me, young man. I fought the war
    for your sort!

    Ringo : I bet you're sorry you won..
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Mon Oct 6 07:26:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 00:36:45 +0100, chrisq <syseng@gfsys.co.uk> wrote:

    On 9/17/25 08:35, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 17/09/2025 12:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:25:27 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 16/09/2025 3:38 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 22:18:05 -0700, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 2025-09-15 10:02 a.m., john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:22:02 +1000, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 13/09/2025 8:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:05:08 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--
    canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 19:08:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom
    <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Firing squad in Utah, IIRC. How fitting - and fully deserved >>>>>>>>>>> for this
    hard Left, skinny, hate-filled punk.


    Are people getting crazier lately?

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    For a bit of objectivity, I asked AI and it's no misperception. I >>>>>>>>> don't know how old you are, but I remember there was a string of >>>>>>>>> political assassinations in the US during the 60s. However, by the >>>>>>>>> early 70s, we seemed to have left that all behind, thankfully, >>>>>>>>> for the
    next 40+ years (barring that one attempt on the Gipper in about >>>>>>>>> '81).
    But now it seems it's back. The atmosphere is febrile and it's not >>>>>>>>> just in America.
    We need to remember that open debate is the only way to move >>>>>>>>> forward
    constructively. Have a civilized argument and don't get mad if you >>>>>>>>> come off worse 'cos it's probable your ideas just don't stand up to >>>>>>>>> scrutiny. Otherwise we risk becoming a banana republic like you >>>>>>>>> see in
    places like Africa and S. America.

    And the USA. At least in Brazil they put Bolsonaro in prison for 27 >>>>>>>> years for plotting a coup after he'd lost an election.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c147n38k800o

    Trump hasn't been prosecuted for trying to pull much the same >>>>>>>> stunt in
    January 2020, and - now that he is back in power - he is going >>>>>>>> after the
    people who were putting together a case against him for the
    damage he
    did back in 2020.

    Banana republics got that title because US fruit importers would use >>>>>>>> their political influence to get the US to endorse military coups >>>>>>>> that
    put regimes in power that would discourage banana growers from >>>>>>>> protesting about US exploitation.

    When Cuba was being exploited by greedy american corporations is was >>>>>>> the wealthist country in Latin America. Since Castro liberated it, >>>>>>> it's about the poorest.

    Now Cuba imports sugar.

    The US blockaded Cuba...read your history.

    The blockade lasted 13 days in 1962, to keep Soviet nukes out of Cuba. >>>>>
    Cuba is free to trade with the entire rest of the world, but they
    still can't keep the lights on.

    That wasn't the only kind of blockade imposed. Cuba isn't remotely free >>>> to trade with the rest of the world.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68935247

    My Cajun daddy-in-law was a sugar cane farmer in Louisiana and owned a
    share in a local co-op sugar mill. That was interesting. We could fill
    up buckets with turbinado sugar, the amber-colored first-press
    unprocessed stuff. It was great. I still cook with turbo and it's
    great in coffee.

    He had a self-propelled cane cutter machine that was a fast as 50 guys
    with machetes. The only time they would cut by hand was if a hurricane
    had tangled the cane too much for the cutter to work right.

    I suppose that Cubans can't set up co-op mills. The Party owns
    everything, and that's all rotting.

    The point of the BBC story was that 24 mills were still working, even if
    29 weren't. The party and the workers can't conjure replacement parts
    out of thin air. They could get enough replacement parts to keep 24
    mills working, but the trade embargo was tight enough that that was all
    that they could manage.



    Speaking from England:

    Firstly, if you believe everything you hear from the BBC, then I have
    several bridges to sell you. Propaganda central, patronising,
    gaslighting and suppressing dissent, is their stock in trade.

    Amateurs. The New York Times does all that far better.

    You need
    to get out a bit more.

    Second, if they can't get spare parts, why don't they just copy and make
    them themselves. Are they helpless, or what ?. Perhaps good old mother
    Russia will help them.

    The world is full of machine shops. Especially China. I must get a
    bad-english email a day from a chinese shop of some sort.

    I suppose Cuba once had machine shops.

    Communists are people-people, social critters, and don't understand
    physical things, like cane mills. Or machine shops. They Seize The
    Means Of Production and let it rust.

    Cuba imports sugar now. And exports talent.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Mon Oct 6 22:52:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2025-10-06 01:36, chrisq wrote:
    On 9/17/25 08:35, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 17/09/2025 12:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:25:27 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 16/09/2025 3:38 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 22:18:05 -0700, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 2025-09-15 10:02 a.m., john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:22:02 +1000, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 13/09/2025 8:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:05:08 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--
    canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 19:08:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom
    <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Firing squad in Utah, IIRC. How fitting - and fully deserved >>>>>>>>>>> for this
    hard Left, skinny, hate-filled punk.


    Are people getting crazier lately?

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    For a bit of objectivity, I asked AI and it's no misperception. I >>>>>>>>> don't know how old you are, but I remember there was a string of >>>>>>>>> political assassinations in the US during the 60s. However, by the >>>>>>>>> early 70s, we seemed to have left that all behind, thankfully, >>>>>>>>> for the
    next 40+ years (barring that one attempt on the Gipper in about >>>>>>>>> '81).
    But now it seems it's back. The atmosphere is febrile and it's not >>>>>>>>> just in America.
    We need to remember that open debate is the only way to move >>>>>>>>> forward
    constructively. Have a civilized argument and don't get mad if you >>>>>>>>> come off worse 'cos it's probable your ideas just don't stand >>>>>>>>> up to
    scrutiny. Otherwise we risk becoming a banana republic like you >>>>>>>>> see in
    places like Africa and S. America.

    And the USA. At least in Brazil they put Bolsonaro in prison for 27 >>>>>>>> years for plotting a coup after he'd lost an election.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c147n38k800o

    Trump hasn't been prosecuted for trying to pull much the same >>>>>>>> stunt in
    January 2020, and - now that he is back in power - he is going >>>>>>>> after the
    people who were putting together a case against him for the
    damage he
    did back in 2020.

    Banana republics got that title because US fruit importers would >>>>>>>> use
    their political influence to get the US to endorse military
    coups that
    put regimes in power that would discourage banana growers from >>>>>>>> protesting about US exploitation.

    When Cuba was being exploited by greedy american corporations is was >>>>>>> the wealthist country in Latin America. Since Castro liberated it, >>>>>>> it's about the poorest.

    Now Cuba imports sugar.

    The US blockaded Cuba...read your history.

    The blockade lasted 13 days in 1962, to keep Soviet nukes out of Cuba. >>>>>
    Cuba is free to trade with the entire rest of the world, but they
    still can't keep the lights on.

    That wasn't the only kind of blockade imposed. Cuba isn't remotely free >>>> to trade with the rest of the world.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68935247

    My Cajun daddy-in-law was a sugar cane farmer in Louisiana and owned a
    share in a local co-op sugar mill. That was interesting. We could fill
    up buckets with turbinado sugar, the amber-colored first-press
    unprocessed stuff. It was great. I still cook with turbo and it's
    great in coffee.

    He had a self-propelled cane cutter machine that was a fast as 50 guys
    with machetes. The only time they would cut by hand was if a hurricane
    had tangled the cane too much for the cutter to work right.

    I suppose that Cubans can't set up co-op mills. The Party owns
    everything, and that's all rotting.

    The point of the BBC story was that 24 mills were still working, even
    if 29 weren't. The party and the workers can't conjure replacement
    parts out of thin air. They could get enough replacement parts to keep
    24 mills working, but the trade embargo was tight enough that that was
    all that they could manage.



    Speaking from England:

    Firstly, if you believe everything you hear from the BBC, then I have
    several bridges to sell you. Propaganda central, patronising,
    gaslighting and suppressing dissent, is their stock in trade. You need
    to get out a bit more.

    Second, if they can't get spare parts, why don't they just copy and make
    them themselves. Are they helpless, or what ?. Perhaps good old mother
    Russia will help them.

    Cubans are very good at maintaining cars without having original spares.
    The cars they run are very old and amazing. Any tourist visiting there
    can see this. If they don't repair other machines it is because they
    really can't.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Mon Oct 6 15:23:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 22:52:24 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
    <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-10-06 01:36, chrisq wrote:
    On 9/17/25 08:35, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 17/09/2025 12:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:25:27 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 16/09/2025 3:38 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 22:18:05 -0700, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 2025-09-15 10:02 a.m., john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:22:02 +1000, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 13/09/2025 8:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:05:08 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen-- >>>>>>>>>> canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 19:08:38 +0100, Cursitor Doom
    <cd6699@notformail.com> wrote:

    Firing squad in Utah, IIRC. How fitting - and fully deserved >>>>>>>>>>>> for this
    hard Left, skinny, hate-filled punk.


    Are people getting crazier lately?

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    For a bit of objectivity, I asked AI and it's no misperception. I >>>>>>>>>> don't know how old you are, but I remember there was a string of >>>>>>>>>> political assassinations in the US during the 60s. However, by the >>>>>>>>>> early 70s, we seemed to have left that all behind, thankfully, >>>>>>>>>> for the
    next 40+ years (barring that one attempt on the Gipper in about >>>>>>>>>> '81).
    But now it seems it's back. The atmosphere is febrile and it's not >>>>>>>>>> just in America.
    We need to remember that open debate is the only way to move >>>>>>>>>> forward
    constructively. Have a civilized argument and don't get mad if you >>>>>>>>>> come off worse 'cos it's probable your ideas just don't stand >>>>>>>>>> up to
    scrutiny. Otherwise we risk becoming a banana republic like you >>>>>>>>>> see in
    places like Africa and S. America.

    And the USA. At least in Brazil they put Bolsonaro in prison for 27 >>>>>>>>> years for plotting a coup after he'd lost an election.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c147n38k800o

    Trump hasn't been prosecuted for trying to pull much the same >>>>>>>>> stunt in
    January 2020, and - now that he is back in power - he is going >>>>>>>>> after the
    people who were putting together a case against him for the >>>>>>>>> damage he
    did back in 2020.

    Banana republics got that title because US fruit importers would >>>>>>>>> use
    their political influence to get the US to endorse military >>>>>>>>> coups that
    put regimes in power that would discourage banana growers from >>>>>>>>> protesting about US exploitation.

    When Cuba was being exploited by greedy american corporations is was >>>>>>>> the wealthist country in Latin America. Since Castro liberated it, >>>>>>>> it's about the poorest.

    Now Cuba imports sugar.

    The US blockaded Cuba...read your history.

    The blockade lasted 13 days in 1962, to keep Soviet nukes out of Cuba. >>>>>>
    Cuba is free to trade with the entire rest of the world, but they
    still can't keep the lights on.

    That wasn't the only kind of blockade imposed. Cuba isn't remotely free >>>>> to trade with the rest of the world.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68935247

    My Cajun daddy-in-law was a sugar cane farmer in Louisiana and owned a >>>> share in a local co-op sugar mill. That was interesting. We could fill >>>> up buckets with turbinado sugar, the amber-colored first-press
    unprocessed stuff. It was great. I still cook with turbo and it's
    great in coffee.

    He had a self-propelled cane cutter machine that was a fast as 50 guys >>>> with machetes. The only time they would cut by hand was if a hurricane >>>> had tangled the cane too much for the cutter to work right.

    I suppose that Cubans can't set up co-op mills. The Party owns
    everything, and that's all rotting.

    The point of the BBC story was that 24 mills were still working, even
    if 29 weren't. The party and the workers can't conjure replacement
    parts out of thin air. They could get enough replacement parts to keep
    24 mills working, but the trade embargo was tight enough that that was
    all that they could manage.



    Speaking from England:

    Firstly, if you believe everything you hear from the BBC, then I have
    several bridges to sell you. Propaganda central, patronising,
    gaslighting and suppressing dissent, is their stock in trade. You need
    to get out a bit more.

    Second, if they can't get spare parts, why don't they just copy and make
    them themselves. Are they helpless, or what ?. Perhaps good old mother
    Russia will help them.

    Cubans are very good at maintaining cars without having original spares.
    The cars they run are very old and amazing. Any tourist visiting there
    can see this. If they don't repair other machines it is because they
    really can't.

    The people who maintain the cars are individuals trying to make a
    dollar from tourists.

    The decaying sugar mills are owned by The Party.

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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