• My first Kobo Touch reader died

    From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 13:26:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qWR1kVNFjcqDP8WT7

    The battery, which is not the original, but a replacement bought from
    China, is bulging, and made the case to open.

    There was no exact replacement. I had to desolder a chip from the
    original battery and solder it to the replacement. Not shown well in the photo, it is at the other end. I added a close up photo of the chip.

    The original battery was LP404252ARU, with three wires. One
    for some sort of sensor. Device does not power up with two wire
    batteries. On Aliexpres on 2020 I found a "404252 3,7 V 1200mAh
    bater|!a recargable de pol|!mero de litio para Kobo Touch E-book
    MP3 MP4 Lampe altavoz juguetes banco de energ|!a m||vil 404050".
    The links from back then are dead now.

    I have not searched yet.


    I bought another reader a year ago, in May. A Kobo Libra Colour. This
    one the company said they would process repairs. Perhaps means spares
    will be provided.


    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a
    factory reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from it
    (you can only have six on Adobe Digital Editions)


    (I don't see a group on epub or ebook readers)
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Don Y@blockedofcourse@foo.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 23:51:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/30/2025 4:26 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qWR1kVNFjcqDP8WT7

    The battery, which is not the original, but a replacement bought from China, is
    bulging, and made the case to open.

    Have you looked at the third (white?) wire to see what it may be "saying"? (i.e., if it is saying ANYTHING)

    You could also monitor what happens when you impress a fake battery voltage
    on the B+/- terminals.

    [Battery powered devices SUCK!]

    There was no exact replacement. I had to desolder a chip from the original battery and solder it to the replacement. Not shown well in the photo, it is at
    the other end. I added a close up photo of the chip.

    -a-a The original battery was LP404252ARU, with three wires. One
    -a-a for some sort of sensor. Device does not power up with two wire
    -a-a batteries. On Aliexpres on 2020 I found a "404252 3,7 V 1200mAh
    -a-a bater|!a recargable de pol|!mero de litio para Kobo Touch E-book
    -a-a MP3 MP4 Lampe altavoz juguetes banco de energ|!a m||vil 404050".
    -a-a The links from back then are dead now.

    -a-a I have not searched yet.


    I bought another reader a year ago, in May. A Kobo Libra Colour. This one the
    company said they would process repairs. Perhaps means spares will be provided.

    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a factory reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from it (you can only have six on Adobe Digital Editions)

    *What* will know if you have more?

    (I don't see a group on epub or ebook readers)


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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 22:52:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2025-08-31 08:51, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/30/2025 4:26 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qWR1kVNFjcqDP8WT7

    The battery, which is not the original, but a replacement bought from
    China, is bulging, and made the case to open.

    Have you looked at the third (white?) wire to see what it may be "saying"? (i.e., if it is saying ANYTHING)

    No, I cut the cables and removed the bulging battery. But I read
    somewhere it is a temperature sensor.


    You could also monitor what happens when you impress a fake battery voltage on the B+/- terminals.

    I'll probably do that.


    [Battery powered devices SUCK!]

    For a book reader, it is a must. But I'd prefer standard AAA batteries
    or rechargeable equivalent.


    There was no exact replacement. I had to desolder a chip from the
    original battery and solder it to the replacement. Not shown well in
    the photo, it is at the other end. I added a close up photo of the chip.

    -a-a-a The original battery was LP404252ARU, with three wires. One
    -a-a-a for some sort of sensor. Device does not power up with two wire
    -a-a-a batteries. On Aliexpres on 2020 I found a "404252 3,7 V 1200mAh
    -a-a-a bater|!a recargable de pol|!mero de litio para Kobo Touch E-book
    -a-a-a MP3 MP4 Lampe altavoz juguetes banco de energ|!a m||vil 404050".
    -a-a-a The links from back then are dead now.

    -a-a-a I have not searched yet.


    I bought another reader a year ago, in May. A Kobo Libra Colour. This
    one the company said they would process repairs. Perhaps means spares
    will be provided.

    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a
    factory reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from it
    (you can only have six on Adobe Digital Editions)

    *What* will know if you have more?

    Stops working. The seventh device is refused.
    These things phone home before they authorize a device to read books.
    (I don't see a group on epub or ebook readers)
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Don Y@blockedofcourse@foo.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 16:20:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/31/2025 1:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-31 08:51, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/30/2025 4:26 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qWR1kVNFjcqDP8WT7

    The battery, which is not the original, but a replacement bought from China,
    is bulging, and made the case to open.

    Have you looked at the third (white?) wire to see what it may be "saying"? >> (i.e., if it is saying ANYTHING)

    No, I cut the cables and removed the bulging battery. But I read somewhere it
    is a temperature sensor.

    Photos look like something more than just temperature.
    [Battery powered devices SUCK!]

    For a book reader, it is a must. But I'd prefer standard AAA batteries or rechargeable equivalent.

    I was bedridden from an injury, many years ago. Closest thing I had to a general purpose *big* eReader was a 12" tabletPC. As *I* wasn't moving, it
    was quite acceptable for it to be tethered to the mains.

    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a factory >>> reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from it (you can only
    have six on Adobe Digital Editions)

    *What* will know if you have more?

    Stops working. The seventh device is refused.
    These things phone home before they authorize a device to read books.

    Ah. My devices just read what's in front of them (also Adobe Digital Editions). But, I'm not sure how much of my content is protected by DRM.
    The "powered up" device, above, would then have to work well enough
    to unregister itself?

    On my ToDo list is a large (~14-15") tablet so I can read letter-sized documents "full size" as my library is increasingly "stored charge"
    instead of "dead trees" (and, anything that I've scanned is, of course,
    not DRM protected).

    IMO, the biggest problem with eReaders is library organization. You
    can't practically manage 1000 titles with their existing "book store"
    software. "Tell me which book/technical paper discusses 'foobar'..."

    (I don't see a group on epub or ebook readers)


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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 02:54:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2025-09-01 01:20, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/31/2025 1:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-31 08:51, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/30/2025 4:26 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qWR1kVNFjcqDP8WT7

    The battery, which is not the original, but a replacement bought
    from China, is bulging, and made the case to open.

    Have you looked at the third (white?) wire to see what it may be
    "saying"?
    (i.e., if it is saying ANYTHING)

    No, I cut the cables and removed the bulging battery. But I read
    somewhere it is a temperature sensor.

    Photos look like something more than just temperature.

    There is a chip with six legs, and another with also 6 legs, different
    form factor. The rest, no idea.

    [Battery powered devices SUCK!]

    For a book reader, it is a must. But I'd prefer standard AAA batteries
    or rechargeable equivalent.

    I was bedridden from an injury, many years ago.-a Closest thing I had to a general purpose *big* eReader was a 12" tabletPC.-a As *I* wasn't moving, it was quite acceptable for it to be tethered to the mains.

    I read in bed, before sleep, and the usb cable on that thing is a
    nuisance while charging and reading.


    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a
    factory reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from
    it (you can only have six on Adobe Digital Editions)

    *What* will know if you have more?

    Stops working. The seventh device is refused.
    These things phone home before they authorize a device to read books.

    Ah.-a My devices just read what's in front of them (also Adobe Digital Editions).-a But, I'm not sure how much of my content is protected by DRM. The "powered up" device, above, would then have to work well enough
    to unregister itself?

    Yes.

    On my ToDo list is a large (~14-15")-a tablet so I can read letter-sized documents "full size" as my library is increasingly "stored charge"
    instead of "dead trees" (and, anything that I've scanned is, of course,
    not DRM protected).

    IMO, the biggest problem with eReaders is library organization.-a You
    can't practically manage 1000 titles with their existing "book store" software.-a "Tell me which book/technical paper discusses 'foobar'..."

    Huh.

    Once I organized my ebooks with tags for theme, and then came an update
    and killed all my data. Even what books I had already read. All appeared
    as "new, unread".

    You can search for a word (or string) on all your books. At least there
    is search, while there is nothing on paper books unless you write it
    down and organize it yourself, externally. Librarians know all about
    that. :-)



    (I don't see a group on epub or ebook readers)


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Don Y@blockedofcourse@foo.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 18:12:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/31/2025 5:54 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    No, I cut the cables and removed the bulging battery. But I read somewhere >>> it is a temperature sensor.

    Photos look like something more than just temperature.

    There is a chip with six legs, and another with also 6 legs, different form factor. The rest, no idea.

    Either one could be an MCU. Or, some I2C device.

    [Battery powered devices SUCK!]

    For a book reader, it is a must. But I'd prefer standard AAA batteries or >>> rechargeable equivalent.

    I was bedridden from an injury, many years ago.-a Closest thing I had to a >> general purpose *big* eReader was a 12" tabletPC.-a As *I* wasn't moving, it >> was quite acceptable for it to be tethered to the mains.

    I read in bed, before sleep, and the usb cable on that thing is a nuisance while charging and reading.

    Ah. I either read "on the throne" or while waiting for appointments
    (away from home). SWMBO has permanently "borrowed" one of my Nook HD+'s
    OK, I actually prefer the Nook Color as it more closely resembles the "paperback" form factor.

    But, none are acceptable for research papers and things that aren't
    true pdf's. Hence the need for a 14-15" tablet. But, at that size,
    it really needs to be lightweight (the 12 tablet PC that I previously
    used was very heavy)

    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a factory
    reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from it (you can >>>>> only have six on Adobe Digital Editions)

    *What* will know if you have more?

    Stops working. The seventh device is refused.
    These things phone home before they authorize a device to read books.

    Ah.-a My devices just read what's in front of them (also Adobe Digital
    Editions).-a But, I'm not sure how much of my content is protected by DRM. >> The "powered up" device, above, would then have to work well enough
    to unregister itself?

    Yes.

    So, just impressing a battery voltage on the battery terminals may suffice.

    On my ToDo list is a large (~14-15")-a tablet so I can read letter-sized
    documents "full size" as my library is increasingly "stored charge"
    instead of "dead trees" (and, anything that I've scanned is, of course,
    not DRM protected).

    IMO, the biggest problem with eReaders is library organization.-a You
    can't practically manage 1000 titles with their existing "book store"
    software.-a "Tell me which book/technical paper discusses 'foobar'..."

    Huh.

    Once I organized my ebooks with tags for theme, and then came an update and killed all my data. Even what books I had already read. All appeared as "new,
    unread".

    It's just hard to browse for titles, group them in meaningful ways, etc.
    These devices seem to be intended for someone who is reading one or
    two books (novels) at a time, not as a "library replacement".

    You can search for a word-a (or string) on all your books. At least there is search, while there is nothing on paper books unless you write it down and organize it yourself, externally. Librarians know all about that. :-)

    Yes. But, only applies to documents that are composed of actual text.
    I often receive research papers that have been scanned and faxed. Even
    if I OCR them, you lose access to annotations on figures, etc.

    The world would be a better place if everything was created and distributed
    as searchable text.

    [OTOH, I deliberately remove the electronic versions of the data that I
    type into fillable forms to force folks to OCR them *or* manually enter what I've TYPED into them! (Why the need for the electronic form if YOU
    have specified the typeface to be used in your electronic document?!)
    If the electronic encoding and the grapheme forms differ, which does the
    LAW recognize??]

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 12:25:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2025-09-01 03:12, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/31/2025 5:54 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    No, I cut the cables and removed the bulging battery. But I read
    somewhere it is a temperature sensor.

    Photos look like something more than just temperature.

    There is a chip with six legs, and another with also 6 legs, different
    form factor. The rest, no idea.

    Either one could be an MCU.-a Or, some I2C device.

    [Battery powered devices SUCK!]

    For a book reader, it is a must. But I'd prefer standard AAA
    batteries or rechargeable equivalent.

    I was bedridden from an injury, many years ago.-a Closest thing I had
    to a
    general purpose *big* eReader was a 12" tabletPC.-a As *I* wasn't
    moving, it
    was quite acceptable for it to be tethered to the mains.

    I read in bed, before sleep, and the usb cable on that thing is a
    nuisance while charging and reading.

    Ah.-a I either read "on the throne" or while waiting for appointments
    (away from home).-a SWMBO has permanently "borrowed" one of my Nook HD+'s
    OK, I actually prefer the Nook Color as it more closely resembles the "paperback" form factor.

    Waiting for appointments I usually take the ieee magazine, in paper :-)


    But, none are acceptable for research papers and things that aren't
    true pdf's.-a Hence the need for a 14-15" tablet.-a But, at that size,
    it really needs to be lightweight (the 12 tablet PC that I previously
    used was very heavy)

    And for reading comics.

    The advantage of ebooks, is that the battery lasts weeks, and that you
    can read out in the sun. There is no brilliance from the screen at
    night, important when reading just before sleep.

    My current one does colour, but akin to water colours. A bit faded, not solid.

    I wouldn't care if it used AAA batteries.


    Perhaps I should do something to power up the old reader and do a >>>>>> factory reset, or something, in order to remove the DRM thing from >>>>>> it (you can only have six on Adobe Digital Editions)

    *What* will know if you have more?

    Stops working. The seventh device is refused.
    These things phone home before they authorize a device to read books.

    Ah.-a My devices just read what's in front of them (also Adobe Digital
    Editions).-a But, I'm not sure how much of my content is protected by
    DRM.
    The "powered up" device, above, would then have to work well enough
    to unregister itself?

    Yes.

    So, just impressing a battery voltage on the battery terminals may suffice.

    Maybe I'll try that.



    On my ToDo list is a large (~14-15")-a tablet so I can read letter-sized >>> documents "full size" as my library is increasingly "stored charge"
    instead of "dead trees" (and, anything that I've scanned is, of course,
    not DRM protected).

    IMO, the biggest problem with eReaders is library organization.-a You
    can't practically manage 1000 titles with their existing "book store"
    software.-a "Tell me which book/technical paper discusses 'foobar'..."

    Huh.

    Once I organized my ebooks with tags for theme, and then came an
    update and killed all my data. Even what books I had already read. All
    appeared as "new, unread".

    It's just hard to browse for titles, group them in meaningful ways, etc. These devices seem to be intended for someone who is reading one or
    two books (novels) at a time, not as a "library replacement".

    Yes, absolutely.


    You can search for a word-a (or string) on all your books. At least
    there is search, while there is nothing on paper books unless you
    write it down and organize it yourself, externally. Librarians know
    all about that. :-)

    Yes.-a But, only applies to documents that are composed of actual text.
    I often receive research papers that have been scanned and faxed.-a Even
    if I OCR them, you lose access to annotations on figures, etc.

    Yes, epubs are text. I would hate PDFs that don't contain actual text.
    Not searchable. And epub can reflow, adjust to your font choices of kind
    and size.

    The world would be a better place if everything was created and distributed as searchable text.

    Absolutely.

    [OTOH, I deliberately remove the electronic versions of the data that I
    type into fillable forms to force folks to OCR them *or* manually enter
    what
    I've TYPED into them!-a (Why the need for the electronic form if YOU
    have specified the typeface to be used in your electronic document?!)
    If the electronic encoding and the grapheme forms differ, which does the
    LAW recognize??]


    Hum.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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