• nice little FPGA

    From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Aug 29 16:40:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Klaus Kragelund@klauskvik@hotmail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 01:48:25 2025
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    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Aug 29 17:13:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@ksi@koi8.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 01:18:41 2025
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    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    And dirt cheap, will probably buy a bucketful before they are all sold...

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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@ksi@koi8.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 01:36:11 2025
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    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles)
    PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC
    without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand
    will be probably enormous...

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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 08:06:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog comparator that can directly control the PWM generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.
    Babble, no electronics.
    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?
    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !
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  • From piglet@erichpwagner@hotmail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 08:27:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    And dirt cheap, will probably buy a bucketful before they are all sold...

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    Dang, someone bought em all, only 2 in stock
    --
    piglet
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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 10:54:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801



    A lot cheaper than a 22V10!

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs
    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 13:52:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin wrote:
    Klaus Kragelund wrote:
    john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >>blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog comparator that can directly control the PWM generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.
    Babble, no electronics.
    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?
    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    AMD's chip at the topmost link intrigues me most. Its data sheet:

    <https://docs.amd.com/v/u/en-US/ds950-versal-overview>

    leads me to believe it advances accelerated applications and adaptive AI-on-a-chip at a low power. It's a fine fit for my nuanced, complex
    reality, where combinational and sequential logic seldom supply a
    satisfactory solution.

    "Some Versal adaptive SoCs have an array of signal
    processing cores that are highly optimized for functions
    in machine learning, convolutional neural networks,
    wireless radio, backhaul, cable, and radar applications.
    The array consists of a number of AI Engines, each
    comprising a 32-bit scalar RISC processor, fixed and
    floating point vector units, data memory, and interconnect.
    AI Engines can be used as a single tile, as the complete
    array, or at any granularity in between. The creation of
    custom acceleration and compute engines in the AI
    Engine array is done at a high-level through C and C++."
    --
    73, Don, KB7RPU veritas _|_
    liberabit | https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu vos |

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 07:52:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:36:11 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >will be probably enormous...

    I suppose TI made an enormous blunder in designing their PLDs and
    creating the code-free dev tools. Those Texans are all notoriously
    dumb.

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 08:12:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 08:06:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >>blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog comparator that can directly control the PWM generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.

    We're blowing up big attenuators too. We have about a square inch of
    pulse generator circuit making 8KW 10ns pulses that are hard to
    measure. I guess we'll have to design our own attenuators. We were
    thinking we could make them like business cards and give them away at
    trade shows.

    Babble, no electronics.

    Keep typing! [1]

    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?

    I am always impressed that anyone would sell a transistor in a SOT23
    package for 1 cent or a 1% resistor for half that. Why bother?


    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    Tastes better. I'm finishing a cup of Peets French Roast this instant;
    time for my refill and some bread pudding.

    The only things that you never get tired of are addictive.

    [1] I was talking to my guys about that. Why are we clicking mice all
    day instead of wearing flannel shirts and boots and chopping down
    trees and blowing up dams or something? The closest we come is making detonators.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 15:33:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin wrote:
    Klaus Kragelund wrote:
    john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >>>blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog >> comparator that can directly control the PWM generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.
    Babble, no electronics.
    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?
    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    AMD's chip at the topmost link intrigues me most. Its data sheet:

    <https://docs.amd.com/v/u/en-US/ds950-versal-overview>

    leads me to believe it advances accelerated applications and adaptive >AI-on-a-chip at a low power. It's a fine fit for my nuanced, complex
    reality, where combinational and sequential logic seldom supply a >satisfactory solution.

    Example?

    I have that datasheet overview (2022 last review).

    AI mentioned as sales booster?

    I stick with my Raspberry Pi4 8GB for now.

    The Pi5 has no 3.5 mm audio jack, so I will not buy / use it.





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  • From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 11:38:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 16:03:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 08:06:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >>>blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog comparator that can directly control the PWM
    generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.

    We're blowing up big attenuators too. We have about a square inch of
    pulse generator circuit making 8KW 10ns pulses that are hard to
    measure. I guess we'll have to design our own attenuators. We were
    thinking we could make them like business cards and give them away at
    trade shows.

    Babble, no electronics.

    Keep typing! [1]

    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?

    I am always impressed that anyone would sell a transistor in a SOT23
    package for 1 cent or a 1% resistor for half that. Why bother?


    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    Tastes better.

    Yes, addictive too, I had apple cake with cream with it, Leeuwarden.
    Lots of noise from F35s at Leeuwarden mil airport.
    Noisy piece of shit those are.
    There are now action groups opposing the use of F35 because of the noise
    So much noise you could hardly hear the local sirens from some firebrigade.

    But coffee is addictive, have stopped again.
    Now into grapes from the garden, those are getting ripe, turning from green to dark bluish.
    Neighbor came to ask if they could have some, OK, more there than I could ever eat.


    I'm finishing a cup of Peets French Roast this instant;
    time for my refill and some bread pudding.

    Just had my quattro fromage Pizza with home made dressing.


    The only things that you never get tired of are addictive.

    [1] I was talking to my guys about that. Why are we clicking mice all
    day instead of wearing flannel shirts and boots and chopping down
    trees and blowing up dams or something? The closest we come is making >detonators.

    Detonators?
    ... I wish the US war machine stopped
    Trump and his boss Nethanyahoo committing genocide killing little kids uses those!
    This morning I did read the US court found his tariffs were illegal, will he pay it all back himself?
    Been following alt.politics.trump now for a week or so.

    Destruction is easy, creating something new that works is cool and more fun.
    We still need the 'replicator' and be able to 'Beam me up Scotty'.
    At least Elon's latest starship did not explode.

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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 16:04:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL


    When clients send us stuff, we always ask for rCLone to use and two to blow up.rCL

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs
    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 16:12:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL


    When clients send us stuff, we always ask for rCLone to use and two to blow >up.rCL

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    When ordering modules from ebay I often buy 2, for the same reason,
    and having a spare if it does not blow up.

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 09:19:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 08:06:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and
    blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>>>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>>>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>>>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>>>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog comparator that can directly control the PWM
    generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.

    We're blowing up big attenuators too. We have about a square inch of
    pulse generator circuit making 8KW 10ns pulses that are hard to
    measure. I guess we'll have to design our own attenuators. We were
    thinking we could make them like business cards and give them away at
    trade shows.

    Babble, no electronics.

    Keep typing! [1]

    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?

    I am always impressed that anyone would sell a transistor in a SOT23 >>package for 1 cent or a 1% resistor for half that. Why bother?


    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    Tastes better.

    Yes, addictive too, I had apple cake with cream with it, Leeuwarden.
    Lots of noise from F35s at Leeuwarden mil airport.
    Noisy piece of shit those are.
    There are now action groups opposing the use of F35 because of the noise
    So much noise you could hardly hear the local sirens from some firebrigade.

    But coffee is addictive, have stopped again.
    Now into grapes from the garden, those are getting ripe, turning from green to dark bluish.
    Neighbor came to ask if they could have some, OK, more there than I could ever eat.


    I'm finishing a cup of Peets French Roast this instant;
    time for my refill and some bread pudding.

    Just had my quattro fromage Pizza with home made dressing.

    Mo was making oatmeal (for herself, not a horse) so I had toasted
    flatbread with honey. She said my breakfast looked like something out
    of Oliver Twist.

    "Please sir, no more!"



    The only things that you never get tired of are addictive.

    [1] I was talking to my guys about that. Why are we clicking mice all
    day instead of wearing flannel shirts and boots and chopping down
    trees and blowing up dams or something? The closest we come is making >>detonators.

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for.


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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 09:22:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:38:30 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250 >>
    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL

    It should be easy to replace with my old Radio Shack soldering iron.
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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@ksi@koi8.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 21:06:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    And dirt cheap, will probably buy a bucketful before they are all sold...

    Dang, someone bought em all, only 2 in stock

    Damn, looks like I'm late to the party...

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@llc@fonz.dk to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 23:15:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/30/25 18:04, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL


    When clients send us stuff, we always ask for rCLone to use and two to blow up.rCL


    imagine turning on a new board for the first time with something like
    this on it, https://www.digikey.dk/en/products/detail/amd/XCVP1802-2MLELSVC4072/18627088


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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Sat Aug 30 21:22:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 18:04, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL


    When clients send us stuff, we always ask for rCLone to use and two to blow >> up.rCL


    imagine turning on a new board for the first time with something like
    this on it, https://www.digikey.dk/en/products/detail/amd/XCVP1802-2MLELSVC4072/18627088




    Pretty high in onesiesrComaybe itrCOs cheaper in reels?

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs
    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 00:39:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/30/2025 10:52 AM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:36:11 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
    <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and >> blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >> PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >> UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC
    without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >> will be probably enormous...

    I suppose TI made an enormous blunder in designing their PLDs and
    creating the code-free dev tools. Those Texans are all notoriously
    dumb.


    The main application of interest is presented in the data sheet, power
    supply sequencing. Getting the main processor to sequence its own power
    from cold and dark would be a neat trick but...EDN over the years is
    full of "design ideas" i.e. "garbage hacks" for supply switching/power management that being able to roll your own into a custom IC starts to
    seem pretty nice. Glue logic eats up board area but off the shelf power management ICs all seem to be overpriced and never do exactly what you
    want, anyway.

    I don't think that device has them but if you spend a few more pennies
    you can usually find CPLDs with PMOS open drain outputs which are nice
    to have for power sequencing applications, uPs usually don't have open
    drain PMOS pins.

    Yeah everything is obsolete except for the 50 cent Cortexs according to
    people who only do software for products shipping 100,000+ units or do projects according to their own timeframes.

    But designs that meet requirements, have guaranteed supply availability
    and get prototyped/turned around the quickest are often what a client
    judges the winner and those solutions do end up in products moving
    hundreds of thousands, because in my experience when a problem is
    amenable to being solved by a CPLD or mixed-signal array, the solution
    often comes together amazingly quickly.

    Like, days or even hours, we're in the "agile electronics" era. Clickty
    click click click, there's your custom power-sequencer chip, there's the simulation output verifying performance, spin the first board revision,
    nobody got time for GCC..

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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 10:29:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for.

    US CIA makes those wars, using ByeThen as tool, and his son.
    Anything goes for the US, 'divide and rule'

    Old joke,
    2 US agents fly to some south American country
    One asks the other 'what side are you on'?
    'I am with the rebels' he answers.
    'Oh', the first one says: 'I am with the government'.
    THAT is how US weapon export plot works.
    Same in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam Korea,
    and now they control a clown as leader in ukraine
    The current US leader is an egocentric clueless nut case slave of nethanyahoo who is the leader of
    a religious fanatic genital mutilating genocide committing sect
    just making life harder for the world AND his own country.

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 21:00:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 31/08/2025 2:19 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 08:06:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 01:48:25 +0200, Klaus Kragelund
    <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 01:40, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and
    blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles)
    PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with
    UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>>>> without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand
    will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog comparator that can directly control the PWM
    generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.

    We're blowing up big attenuators too. We have about a square inch of
    pulse generator circuit making 8KW 10ns pulses that are hard to
    measure. I guess we'll have to design our own attenuators. We were
    thinking we could make them like business cards and give them away at
    trade shows.

    Babble, no electronics.

    Keep typing! [1]

    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?

    I am always impressed that anyone would sell a transistor in a SOT23
    package for 1 cent or a 1% resistor for half that. Why bother?


    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    Tastes better.

    Yes, addictive too, I had apple cake with cream with it, Leeuwarden.
    Lots of noise from F35s at Leeuwarden mil airport.
    Noisy piece of shit those are.
    There are now action groups opposing the use of F35 because of the noise
    So much noise you could hardly hear the local sirens from some firebrigade. >>
    But coffee is addictive, have stopped again.
    Now into grapes from the garden, those are getting ripe, turning from green to dark bluish.
    Neighbor came to ask if they could have some, OK, more there than I could ever eat.


    I'm finishing a cup of Peets French Roast this instant;
    time for my refill and some bread pudding.

    Just had my quattro fromage Pizza with home made dressing.

    Mo was making oatmeal (for herself, not a horse) so I had toasted
    flatbread with honey. She said my breakfast looked like something out
    of Oliver Twist.

    "Please sir, no more!"



    The only things that you never get tired of are addictive.

    [1] I was talking to my guys about that. Why are we clicking mice all
    day instead of wearing flannel shirts and boots and chopping down
    trees and blowing up dams or something? The closest we come is making
    detonators.

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish Europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for.

    The only war in Europe at the moment is Russia's invasion of the
    Ukraine. Trump doesn't to spend US money on weapons going to the Ukraine
    to fight off the Russians, so Europe has taken over paying for them.

    Trump's attitude is pretty much Chamberlain's at Munich - except that Chamberlain knew that the UK needed a year or so get their armed forces
    up to war-fighting strength, and Trump's attitude is pretty much
    dominated by his lust for photo-opportunities, ideally including being
    award the Nobel Peace Prize. Since his lunatic tariff antics have now
    been declared illegal he'll probably have to settle for the publicity associated with him being successfully impeached.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 09:41:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:04:45 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL


    When clients send us stuff, we always ask for oone to use and two to blow >up.o

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    I think that 'blower upper' was almost a designated role. Sort of a
    'trial by ignorance'.

    The Safety/Standards/ISO docs guy in the suit was my favourite choice,
    after I'd determined that everything was bullet proof. Alternatively,
    the department head, or even the owner of the company.

    RL
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 00:27:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 31/08/2025 11:41 pm, legg wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:04:45 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 16:40:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Be sure to get a spare, in case (the first) one breaks.

    RL


    When clients send us stuff, we always ask for rCLone to use and two to blow >> up.rCL

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    I think that 'blower upper' was almost a designated role. Sort of a
    'trial by ignorance'.

    The Safety/Standards/ISO docs guy in the suit was my favourite choice,
    after I'd determined that everything was bullet proof. Alternatively,
    the department head, or even the owner of the company.

    Senior management does blow up a lot of stuff. They don't know the fine detail, and don't have to clean up afterwards.

    We lost a lot of step-recovery diodes that way.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 01:52:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 31/08/2025 8:29 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for.

    US CIA makes those wars, using ByeThen as tool, and his son.
    Anything goes for the US, 'divide and rule'

    It's more complicated than that.

    The US encouraged the Shah. to stage a coup against the democratically
    elected Mosaddegh back in 1953

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Legacy

    It was done in conjunction with the British to protect the British oil interests in Iran, and American oil interests did well out of it too.

    Since the long term consequence was turn Iran into a theocratic state,
    it wasn't a great idea


    Old joke,
    2 US agents fly to some south American country
    One asks the other 'what side are you on'?
    'I am with the rebels' he answers.
    'Oh', the first one says: 'I am with the government'.
    THAT is how US weapon export plot works.

    Weapons export is rarely - if ever - the only motivation.

    Same in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam Korea,
    and now they control a clown as leader in ukraine.

    Zelensky was the star of a satirical TV series before he was elected president, but he's rather more than just a clown. Trump's own
    performance a "business man" on the TV show "The Apprentice" was closer
    to the clown model - Zelensky wrote and directed his show as well as
    acting in it. Trump was just dropped into an established role to be his egocentric self.

    The current US leader is an egocentric clueless nut case slave of nethanyahoo who is the leader of
    a religious fanatic genital mutilating genocide committing sect
    just making life harder for the world AND his own country.

    Trump isn't anybody's slave. He's clever and manipulative, but ignorant,
    and mainly interested in looking impressive to his audience. This
    doesn't lead him to make wise choices. His lunatic scheme to put tariffs
    onto imports into the US has now been declared illegal, and with any
    luck this will lead to him being impeached and ejected from the White House.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 18:37:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 31/08/2025 8:29 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for.

    US CIA makes those wars, using ByeThen as tool, and his son.
    Anything goes for the US, 'divide and rule'

    It's more complicated than that.

    The US encouraged the Shah. to stage a coup against the democratically elected Mosaddegh back in 1953

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Legacy

    It was done in conjunction with the British to protect the British oil interests in Iran, and American oil interests did well out of it too.

    Since the long term consequence was turn Iran into a theocratic state,
    it wasn't a great idea


    Old joke,
    2 US agents fly to some south American country
    One asks the other 'what side are you on'?
    'I am with the rebels' he answers.
    'Oh', the first one says: 'I am with the government'.
    THAT is how US weapon export plot works.

    Weapons export is rarely - if ever - the only motivation.

    Same in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam Korea,
    and now they control a clown as leader in ukraine.

    Zelensky was the star of a satirical TV series before he was elected president, but he's rather more than just a clown. Trump's own
    performance a "business man" on the TV show "The Apprentice" was closer
    to the clown model - Zelensky wrote and directed his show as well as
    acting in it. Trump was just dropped into an established role to be his egocentric self.

    The current US leader is an egocentric clueless nut case slave of nethanyahoo who is the leader of a religious fanatic genital mutilating genocide committing sect just making life harder for the world AND his
    own country.

    Trump isn't anybody's slave. He's clever and manipulative, but ignorant,
    and mainly interested in looking impressive to his audience. This
    doesn't lead him to make wise choices. His lunatic scheme to put tariffs
    onto imports into the US has now been declared illegal, and with any
    luck this will lead to him being impeached and ejected from the White House.

    Or declaring himself a dictator and abolishing the legal system (or at
    least, attempting to).
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 11:21:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 18:37:57 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 31/08/2025 8:29 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for.

    US CIA makes those wars, using ByeThen as tool, and his son.
    Anything goes for the US, 'divide and rule'

    It's more complicated than that.

    The US encouraged the Shah. to stage a coup against the democratically
    elected Mosaddegh back in 1953

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Legacy

    It was done in conjunction with the British to protect the British oil
    interests in Iran, and American oil interests did well out of it too.

    Since the long term consequence was turn Iran into a theocratic state,
    it wasn't a great idea


    Old joke,
    2 US agents fly to some south American country
    One asks the other 'what side are you on'?
    'I am with the rebels' he answers.
    'Oh', the first one says: 'I am with the government'.
    THAT is how US weapon export plot works.

    Weapons export is rarely - if ever - the only motivation.

    Same in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam Korea,
    and now they control a clown as leader in ukraine.

    Zelensky was the star of a satirical TV series before he was elected
    president, but he's rather more than just a clown. Trump's own
    performance a "business man" on the TV show "The Apprentice" was closer
    to the clown model - Zelensky wrote and directed his show as well as
    acting in it. Trump was just dropped into an established role to be his
    egocentric self.

    The current US leader is an egocentric clueless nut case slave of
    nethanyahoo who is the leader of a religious fanatic genital mutilating
    genocide committing sect just making life harder for the world AND his
    own country.

    Trump isn't anybody's slave. He's clever and manipulative, but ignorant,
    and mainly interested in looking impressive to his audience. This
    doesn't lead him to make wise choices. His lunatic scheme to put tariffs
    onto imports into the US has now been declared illegal, and with any
    luck this will lead to him being impeached and ejected from the White House.

    Or declaring himself a dictator and abolishing the legal system (or at
    least, attempting to).

    The US is descending into lawlessness. Trump is actually allowing
    citizens to pray in public.

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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to sci.electronics.design on Sun Aug 31 18:28:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Don wrote:
    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin wrote:
    Klaus Kragelund wrote:
    john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and
    blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>>>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>>>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>>>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>>>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog >>> comparator that can directly control the PWM generator for for example
    cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.
    Babble, no electronics.
    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?
    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    AMD's chip at the topmost link intrigues me most. Its data sheet:

    <https://docs.amd.com/v/u/en-US/ds950-versal-overview>

    leads me to believe it advances accelerated applications and adaptive >>AI-on-a-chip at a low power. It's a fine fit for my nuanced, complex
    leads me to believe it advances accelerated applications and adaptive >>AI-on-a-chip at a low power. It's a fine fit for my nuanced, complex >>reality, where combinational and sequential logic seldom supply a >>satisfactory solution.

    Example?

    I have that datasheet overview (2022 last review).

    AI mentioned as sales booster?

    I stick with my Raspberry Pi4 8GB for now.

    The Pi5 has no 3.5 mm audio jack, so I will not buy / use it.

    Promoters almost always attempt to capitalize on popluar buzzwords. It
    goes without saying and is unworthy of further comment.
    The acronym AI mostly means "Advanced Inquiry" to me these days.
    AI mitigates manifestation of marketer's HTML2 hype in my search
    results.

    You ask for an example. It's a sad commentary on contemporary
    civilization how Zone 5 Technologies and CoAspire may both blow up a
    bunch of $70,000.00 SoCs every day, either intentionally or
    accidentally, without a second thought.
    Perhaps you seek a more personal example? Bless you for asking me
    about it! For it's fun to talk about such things.
    One of my projects is to virtualize standalone lab instruments. My prototype, admittedly in the early stages, is similar to an ADALM2000.
    For the time being, LabApp lends itself as a label for my project.
    A $70,000.00 SoC's obviously overkill for LabApp. Here's a ring sensor
    for LabApp based upon DiodeGoneWild's design:

    <https://crcomp.net/labapp/ringsensor.png>

    Back in the day, some found the device characteristic tables the most
    valuable part of THE ART OF ELECTRONICS. LabApp's AI ought to be able to acquire such useful empirical data over time in order to present it in a similar manner.

    In the end, there may be a role for a cheap CPLD cluster in LabApp's
    ring sensor. As perhaps a programmatic polypropylene capacitor value
    swapper.
    --
    73, Don, KB7RPU veritas _|_
    liberabit | https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu vos |

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  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 12:12:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 30-Aug-25 7:40 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Given the number of PICs I've destroyed by programming and wiring
    mistakes, I'd be terrified to go near this thing.

    What in God's name is the use-case?

    Sylvia.
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 16:04:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/09/2025 4:21 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 18:37:57 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 31/08/2025 8:29 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

    Detonators?

    Nobody has said so, but we're pretty sure they are.

    ... I wish the US war machine stopped

    And we wish europe would stop having wars that we wind up paying for. >>>>
    US CIA makes those wars, using ByeThen as tool, and his son.
    Anything goes for the US, 'divide and rule'

    It's more complicated than that.

    The US encouraged the Shah. to stage a coup against the democratically
    elected Mosaddegh back in 1953

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Legacy

    It was done in conjunction with the British to protect the British oil
    interests in Iran, and American oil interests did well out of it too.

    Since the long term consequence was turn Iran into a theocratic state,
    it wasn't a great idea


    Old joke,
    2 US agents fly to some south American country
    One asks the other 'what side are you on'?
    'I am with the rebels' he answers.
    'Oh', the first one says: 'I am with the government'.
    THAT is how US weapon export plot works.

    Weapons export is rarely - if ever - the only motivation.

    Same in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam Korea,
    and now they control a clown as leader in ukraine.

    Zelensky was the star of a satirical TV series before he was elected
    president, but he's rather more than just a clown. Trump's own
    performance a "business man" on the TV show "The Apprentice" was closer
    to the clown model - Zelensky wrote and directed his show as well as
    acting in it. Trump was just dropped into an established role to be his
    egocentric self.

    The current US leader is an egocentric clueless nut case slave of
    nethanyahoo who is the leader of a religious fanatic genital mutilating >>>> genocide committing sect just making life harder for the world AND his >>>> own country.

    Trump isn't anybody's slave. He's clever and manipulative, but ignorant, >>> and mainly interested in looking impressive to his audience. This
    doesn't lead him to make wise choices. His lunatic scheme to put tariffs >>> onto imports into the US has now been declared illegal, and with any
    luck this will lead to him being impeached and ejected from the White House.

    Or declaring himself a dictator and abolishing the legal system (or at
    least, attempting to).

    The US is descending into lawlessness. Trump is actually allowing
    citizens to pray in public.

    The religious right has been protecting that right for decades now.
    Trump has about a much religion as an alley cat, but he does suck up to
    the religious right, and they fall for it.

    The religious right would presumably get antsy if people were praying to
    the wrong god, and Trump wouldn't have a clue about that, but praying
    itself is multi-denominational.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@jeroen@nospam.please to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 10:05:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/1/25 06:12, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 30-Aug-25 7:40 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Given the number of PICs I've destroyed by programming and wiring
    mistakes, I'd be terrified to go near this thing.

    What in God's name is the use-case?

    Sylvia.

    Probably finance, bitcoin mining and AI, all the technology
    abuses currently in vogue.

    Jeoren Belleman
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Mon Sep 1 12:11:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Don wrote:
    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
    john larkin wrote:
    Klaus Kragelund wrote:
    john larkin wrote:

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amd/XCVM1402-2MLIVSVD1760/16720250

    That's a kick ass part if I ever see one :-)

    Then TI has an OTP CPLD for 22 cents.

    https://www.ti.com/product/TPLD801

    This is definitely a killer... It can probably do something very complex and
    blindingly fast that can't be done with an expensive 50 cents (in singles) >>>>>PIC or Chinese 24MHz Cortex M0+ with 3K RAM and 20K Flash in TSSOP-20 with >>>>>UARTs, Timers, I2C, UID, SPI and other stuff in it, programmable in GCC >>>>>without any special IDEs, working from 1.7 to 5.5 Vcc... Way to go, demand >>>>>will be probably enormous...

    The 18F14K22 Microchip PICs I use have ADC, multiple analog inputs, analog >>>> comparator that can directly control the PWM generator for for example >>>> cycle by cycle current limiting.., internal reference voltage, 64 MHz clock, etc etc.
    But then I am not blowing up 'tiny attenuators' with pulses as cheap power resistors are available.
    Babble, no electronics.
    American dreaming?

    And wtf 22 cents if you only sell 10?
    Some coffee on a terras here is a multiple of that.
    !

    AMD's chip at the topmost link intrigues me most. Its data sheet:

    <https://docs.amd.com/v/u/en-US/ds950-versal-overview>

    leads me to believe it advances accelerated applications and adaptive >>>AI-on-a-chip at a low power. It's a fine fit for my nuanced, complex >>>leads me to believe it advances accelerated applications and adaptive >>>AI-on-a-chip at a low power. It's a fine fit for my nuanced, complex >>>reality, where combinational and sequential logic seldom supply a >>>satisfactory solution.

    Example?

    I have that datasheet overview (2022 last review).

    AI mentioned as sales booster?

    I stick with my Raspberry Pi4 8GB for now.

    The Pi5 has no 3.5 mm audio jack, so I will not buy / use it.

    Promoters almost always attempt to capitalize on popluar buzzwords. It
    goes without saying and is unworthy of further comment.
    The acronym AI mostly means "Advanced Inquiry" to me these days.
    AI mitigates manifestation of marketer's HTML2 hype in my search
    results.

    You ask for an example. It's a sad commentary on contemporary
    civilization how Zone 5 Technologies and CoAspire may both blow up a
    bunch of $70,000.00 SoCs every day, either intentionally or
    accidentally, without a second thought.
    Perhaps you seek a more personal example? Bless you for asking me
    about it! For it's fun to talk about such things.
    One of my projects is to virtualize standalone lab instruments. My
    prototype, admittedly in the early stages, is similar to an ADALM2000.
    For the time being, LabApp lends itself as a label for my project.
    A $70,000.00 SoC's obviously overkill for LabApp. Here's a ring sensor
    for LabApp based upon DiodeGoneWild's design:

    <https://crcomp.net/labapp/ringsensor.png>

    Back in the day, some found the device characteristic tables the most >valuable part of THE ART OF ELECTRONICS. LabApp's AI ought to be able to >acquire such useful empirical data over time in order to present it in a >similar manner.

    In the end, there may be a role for a cheap CPLD cluster in LabApp's
    ring sensor. As perhaps a programmatic polypropylene capacitor value
    swapper.

    --
    73, Don, KB7RPU veritas _|_
    liberabit |
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