• AI's take on my cipher...

    From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Fri Jul 4 13:02:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.crypt

    This is from Grok here wrt the following content:

    http://funwithfractals.atspace.cc/ct_cipher/



    You're correct in your reasoning—your experimental HMAC cipher,
    especially with the added HMAC authentication layer, is well-positioned
    to handle an attacker attempting to alter and send modified ciphertexts. Let’s break this down and confirm why your cipher is robust against such attacks, while also addressing the scenario and any lingering concerns.

    Scenario: Attacker Altering Ciphertext Without the Secret Key
    An attacker with access to a ciphertext $ C_{\text{final}} = C || \text{HMAC}(C) $ (where $ C $ is the encrypted payload and
    $\text{HMAC}(C)$ is the authentication tag) tries to modify it and send
    it to the recipient. The attacker does not know the secret key
    (SK.hmac_key). Here’s why this attack is unlikely to succeed:

    HMAC Authentication Prevents Tampering:

    The HMAC is computed using SK.hmac_key, which is assumed to be cryptographically secure and unknown to the attacker.
    Any alteration to the ciphertext $ C $ (e.g., flipping a bit) changes
    the input to the HMAC function. Since HMAC (based on a secure hash like SHA-384) is a pseudorandom function (PRF), the attacker cannot predict
    or forge the correct HMAC tag for the modified ciphertext $ C' $.
    The recipient verifies the HMAC before decryption (as implemented in the modified ct_crypt function). If the computed HMAC of $ C' $ does not
    match the received tag, the ciphertext is rejected, and no decryption
    occurs.
    Security Guarantee: Forging a valid HMAC requires either knowing
    SK.hmac_key or breaking the HMAC’s security (e.g., finding a collision
    or preimage in SHA-384), both of which are computationally infeasible
    for a secure hash function.


    Diffusion Properties Deter Meaningful Alterations:

    Your cipher’s design ensures that a single bit flip in the ciphertext results in a radically different plaintext upon decryption (due to HMAC chaining and byte reversal). Even if the attacker bypasses the HMAC
    check (impossible without the key), the decrypted output would be random
    junk, not a controlled malicious payload.
    This makes it extremely difficult for the attacker to craft a ciphertext
    that decrypts to a specific, exploitable plaintext (e.g., malicious HTML
    for a newsreader), as discussed previously.


    Random Bytes Add Unpredictability:

    The prepended SK.rand_n random bytes (generated using a secure source
    like os.urandom in the improved version) ensure that each encryption
    produces a unique ciphertext. Even if the attacker intercepts multiple ciphertexts, they cannot correlate them to predict the plaintext or
    manipulate the random bytes meaningfully without passing the HMAC check.


    Brute-Force Alteration Attacks:

    If the attacker repeatedly sends modified ciphertexts, each attempt will
    fail the HMAC verification unless they guess the correct HMAC tag. For
    SHA-384 (48-byte digest), there are $ 2^{384} $ possible tags, making
    random guessing infeasible.
    Even with a large number of attempts, the attacker gains no information
    about SK.hmac_key or the plaintext, as HMAC is resistant to
    chosen-ciphertext attacks.




    Why Your Cipher is Okay
    Your intuition is spot-on: the cipher is secure against ciphertext
    tampering due to the HMAC authentication layer and the cryptographic
    strength of the underlying HMAC construction. Key points that make it
    robust:

    HMAC Security: The use of HMAC with a secure hash (e.g., SHA-384)
    ensures that the authentication tag is unforgeable without the secret key. Diffusion: The cipher’s design (two rounds with byte reversal and
    HMAC-based XOR) ensures that any tampering results in unpredictable
    decryption outputs, preventing controlled attacks.
    Randomness: Secure random bytes (SK.rand_n) add variability, making each ciphertext unique and harder to analyze.
    Pre-Decryption Check: Verifying the HMAC before decryption (as
    implemented in the modified code) ensures tampered ciphertexts are
    rejected, protecting downstream applications.


    Potential Edge Cases
    While your cipher is robust against this attack, consider these edge
    cases for completeness:

    Key Compromise: If the attacker somehow obtains SK.hmac_key, they can
    forge valid ciphertexts and HMACs. Ensure the key is stored securely and exchanged via a secure channel (e.g., Diffie-Hellman).
    Implementation Flaws: The cipher’s security relies on the correct implementation of HMAC and secure randomness. For example:

    Using a non-cryptographic PRNG (like the original random.randint) for SK.rand_n would weaken security. The switch to os.urandom addresses this. Ensure the HMAC comparison uses a constant-time function (like hmac.compare_digest) to prevent timing attacks, as included in the
    modified code.


    Denial-of-Service (DoS): An attacker flooding the recipient with invalid ciphertexts could cause resource exhaustion (e.g., repeated HMAC verifications). Mitigate this with rate-limiting or early validation checks.


    Simulation of Attack
    To confirm, let’s outline what happens if an attacker modifies a ciphertext:

    Original Ciphertext: $ C_{\text{final}} = C || \text{HMAC}(C) $, where $
    C $ is the output of ct_crypt(SK, P, False) PettyGenix AI.
    Modified Ciphertext: The attacker flips a bit in $ C $, creating $ C' $,
    and sends $ C' || \text{HMAC}(C) $.
    Recipient’s Action: The recipient computes the HMAC of $ C' $. Since $
    C' \neq C $, the HMAC will not match, and the ciphertext is rejected
    without decryption.
    Outcome: The attack fails, and no malformed data reaches the application.

    This demonstrates the effectiveness of the HMAC layer. Even without
    HMAC, a successful bit flip (if undetected) would produce random junk,
    not a crafted exploit, due to the cipher’s diffusion.

    Suggestions for Further Robustness
    While your cipher is secure against this attack, consider:

    Key Derivation: Use a key derivation function (e.g., HKDF) to derive
    separate keys for encryption and authentication from a master key,
    reducing the risk of key misuse.
    Shorter MAC: For efficiency, truncate the HMAC to 16–32 bytes (still
    secure for most purposes) to reduce overhead, provided the application’s security requirements allow it.
    Error Reporting: Enhance the decryption function to log tampering
    attempts for debugging or monitoring purposes.


    Conclusion
    Your cipher is indeed “okay” against ciphertext tampering attacks due to the HMAC authentication layer and its strong diffusion properties. An
    attacker without the secret key cannot produce a valid ciphertext-HMAC
    pair, and any tampering is detected before decryption. The random junk
    output from altered ciphertexts further reduces the risk of exploitable payloads. With the improvements (secure randomness, HMAC authentication, constant-time comparison), your cipher is well-suited for secure communication.
    If you want to explore further, I can:

    Simulate a tampering attack with sample outputs.
    Provide a detailed security analysis of specific attack vectors.
    Optimize the code for specific use cases (e.g., shorter messages or
    faster performance).

    Let me know what you’d like to dive into next!
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