• Djokovic says age matters

    From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 15:12:20 2025
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    It's just age, the wear and tear of the body, as much as I'm
    taking care of it.

    And, the reality hits me, you know, right now, Last year and a
    half, like never before, to be honest.

    The longer the tournament goes, The worse the condition gets, and
    I'm just not able to

    I reached, you know, the final stages, I reached semis of every
    Slam this year, but, you know, I have to play Sinner or Alcaraz,
    you know, and these guys are fit, young, you know, sharp, and I
    feel like I'm going into the match with tank half empty, and it's
    just not possible to win the match like that.
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  • From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 19:55:01 2025
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    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
    It's just age, the wear and tear of the body, as much as I'm
    taking care of it.

    And, the reality hits me, you know, right now, Last year and a
    half, like never before, to be honest.

    The longer the tournament goes, The worse the condition gets, and
    I'm just not able to

    I reached, you know, the final stages, I reached semis of every
    Slam this year, but, you know, I have to play Sinner or Alcaraz,
    you know, and these guys are fit, young, you know, sharp, and I
    feel like I'm going into the match with tank half empty, and it's
    just not possible to win the match like that.

    Exactly. I have to appreciate Djoker's honesty.

    He did not say it aloud, but it is clear to me that he is never
    going to win a Grand Slam singles title again.

    If he played doubles with a good partner, he could win GS several
    times, but I guess he only cares about singles.

    br,
    KK
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  • From Scall5@nospam@home.net to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 19:05:29 2025
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    On 7/11/2025 2:55 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
    It's just age, the wear and tear of the body, as much as I'm
    taking care of it.

    And, the reality hits me, you know, right now, Last year and a
    half, like never before, to be honest.

    The longer the tournament goes, The worse the condition gets, and
    I'm just not able to

    I reached, you know, the final stages, I reached semis of every
    Slam this year, but, you know, I have to play Sinner or Alcaraz,
    you know, and these guys are fit, young, you know, sharp, and I
    feel like I'm going into the match with tank half empty, and it's
    just not possible to win the match like that.

    Exactly. I have to appreciate Djoker's honesty.

    He did not say it aloud, but it is clear to me that he is never
    going to win a Grand Slam singles title again.

    If he played doubles with a good partner, he could win GS several
    times, but I guess he only cares about singles.

    br,
    KK

    I wonder if Djokovic is the last of the older players that consistently
    won slams? If so, it would be the end of an unique era.
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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 17:59:24 2025
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    On 12/07/2025 5:12 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:

    It's just age, the wear and tear of the body, as much as I'm
    taking care of it.

    And, the reality hits me, you know, right now, Last year and a
    half, like never before, to be honest.

    The longer the tournament goes, The worse the condition gets, and
    I'm just not able to

    I reached, you know, the final stages, I reached semis of every
    Slam this year, but, you know, I have to play Sinner or Alcaraz,
    you know, and these guys are fit, young, you know, sharp, and I
    feel like I'm going into the match with tank half empty, and it's
    just not possible to win the match like that.


    Well he is 38, and let's face it he very nearly would have won this
    Wimbledon.

    What do you think happens if Dimitrov didn't withdraw and Fritz took 1
    of those set points to force a 5th set? Sure Charlie may have won
    anyway, but Fritz's serve on grass means 1 fluke break and he wins.
    Novak would not lose to an over the hill Dimitrov in semis and has never
    lost to Fritz. No.25 on the plate.

    Novak knows he has 1 more in him with a couple lucky breaks, makes it
    hard to walk away at this stage when he's so close to ultimate tennis
    glory. He has made semis of all 3 slams this year, even beat Alcaraz at
    AO in 4 sets after dropping 1st set. It seems anything is still
    possible with Novak.


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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 18:01:14 2025
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    On 12/07/2025 5:55 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:
    It's just age, the wear and tear of the body, as much as I'm
    taking care of it.

    And, the reality hits me, you know, right now, Last year and a
    half, like never before, to be honest.

    The longer the tournament goes, The worse the condition gets, and
    I'm just not able to

    I reached, you know, the final stages, I reached semis of every
    Slam this year, but, you know, I have to play Sinner or Alcaraz,
    you know, and these guys are fit, young, you know, sharp, and I
    feel like I'm going into the match with tank half empty, and it's
    just not possible to win the match like that.

    Exactly. I have to appreciate Djoker's honesty.

    He did not say it aloud, but it is clear to me that he is never
    going to win a Grand Slam singles title again.



    That's not what the evidence shows. Who can beat Novak aside from
    Sinner and Carlos? Nobody. Fritz has never beaten Novak.

    When Novak starts losing 3rd, 4th rd maybe.
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  • From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 12:28:51 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
    That's not what the evidence shows. Who can beat Novak aside from
    Sinner and Carlos? Nobody. Fritz has never beaten Novak.

    Zverev can certainly beat him. I am 100% sure Djoker will
    never win a GS singles title ever again. He is too old
    and tired.

    br,
    KK
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 10:38:19 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 12/07/2025 5:55 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>> It'

    Again you are failing miserably to understand anything. Federer
    reached the QF in his last Wimbledon playing without
    knees.
    When you get older, the tank runs out as you advance in the
    tournament, until you face the better players in late rounds and
    when these better players happen to be younger and great, age
    becomes great factor in deciding results.
    Novak just realized this and shared this fact but you don't
    believe it's true.
    The speed difference, recovery from hitting position to run to
    another, the acceleration were very evident yesterday.

    He didn't win a set from Sinner in the last three matches.

    Keep this going for another 2-3 years and then come discuss the
    h2h ugliness of Novak
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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Jul 13 01:20:23 2025
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    On 13/07/2025 12:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 12/07/2025 5:55 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>> It'

    Again you are failing miserably to understand anything. Federer
    reached the QF in his last Wimbledon playing without
    knees.


    Federer is not Djokovic. Completely different people and players.


    When you get older, the tank runs out as you advance in the
    tournament, until you face the better players in late rounds and
    when these better players happen to be younger and great, age
    becomes great factor in deciding results.


    Novak beat Carlos AO q/f in 4 sets.


    Novak just realized this and shared this fact but you don't
    believe it's true.


    Of course it's true, but you guys are saying he's done winning slams.
    Complete nonsense. If he was he would have quit ages ago.


    The speed difference, recovery from hitting position to run to
    another, the acceleration were very evident yesterday.



    There are many different ways to win tennis matches. You should know
    that being a Fed fan.



    He didn't win a set from Sinner in the last three matches.


    And Federer had a woeful h2h v Nadal and Novak, didn't stop him from
    winning a few slams did it?


    Keep this going for another 2-3 years and then come discuss the
    h2h ugliness of Novak



    I think Novak would have won this Wimbledon if Dimitrov didn't get
    injured and Fritz beat Carlos in 5. Novak is not losing to those 2 guys
    even if half tanked.



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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Jul 13 01:14:09 2025
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    On 12/07/2025 10:28 pm, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
    That's not what the evidence shows. Who can beat Novak aside from
    Sinner and Carlos? Nobody. Fritz has never beaten Novak.

    Zverev can certainly beat him. I am 100% sure Djoker will
    never win a GS singles title ever again. He is too old
    and tired.

    br,
    KK


    No idea what you're talking about. He cruised into the semis no sweat.

    A guy makes semis of 1st 3 slams of the year and is given 0 chance of
    winning a slam by rst. Embarrassing.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 12:43:17 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 13/07/2025 12:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>>

    Would should on full display again.
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  • From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 17:12:06 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
    No idea what you're talking about. He cruised into the semis no sweat.

    Never heard of Zverev? Rune has also beaten Djoker. So has
    Medvedev. I am sure Jack Draper can do it too.

    A guy makes semis of 1st 3 slams of the year and is given 0 chance of winning a slam by rst. Embarrassing.

    Djoker *himself* said he is too old and tired and
    cannot win.

    The top 200 is so good nowadays that even the early
    rounds drain lots of Djoker's energy. By the time he is in
    the semis, his machine is suffering big time and he is
    unable to win.

    No way this dude is going to win GS ever again. Hahah!

    br,
    KK
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 14:53:28 2025
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    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> wrote:> No idea what you're talking about. He cruised into the s

    Novak is a hell of a player and he can win another one if he
    doesn't get a player that is so good and young in later rounds.
    Every year it becomes more difficult for sure. People don't
    understand the difference between steady speed and being
    explosive on court.
    I believe Shelton would be able to beat Djokovic next year in
    Wimbledon if they have to play each other. Again, looking at who
    is out there that can be a problem for Novak, the list would be
    Sinner, Alcaraz, maybe Shelton & Rune next year. Who else?


    Of course the bad days will happen more and more that will result
    in upsets against any opponents.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Jul 12 16:18:45 2025
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    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    It's just age, the wear and tear of the body, as much as I'm taking care of it.And, the reality hi

    He just realized, lol

    https://www.tiktok.com/@teledeportertve/video/7526155404548541718
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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Jul 13 20:48:45 2025
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    On 13/07/2025 4:53 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> wrote:> No idea what you're talking about. He cruised into the s

    Novak is a hell of a player and he can win another one if he
    doesn't get a player that is so good and young in later rounds.
    Every year it becomes more difficult for sure. People don't
    understand the difference between steady speed and being
    explosive on court.
    I believe Shelton would be able to beat Djokovic next year in
    Wimbledon if they have to play each other. Again, looking at who
    is out there that can be a problem for Novak, the list would be
    Sinner, Alcaraz, maybe Shelton & Rune next year. Who else?


    Of course the bad days will happen more and more that will result
    in upsets against any opponents.




    Logically yes, but Novak seems to be very unique. So far it's only
    Carlos and Sinner, and even there Novak beat Carlos at AO this yr and
    Olympics final. We'll just have to wait to see when he actually starts
    losing to Shelton/Fritz types, might be when he's 40?
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Jul 13 11:17:30 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 13/07/2025 4:53 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messag

    He is actually more impacted by his age than Federer was. Remember
    Wimbledon 2019?
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