• Do you really see the odds that high for Sinner to win?

    From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Thu Jul 10 23:36:48 2025
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    Sinner vs Djokovic: have their SF odds as -210 vs +170
    Please convert it to the probability of winning in percentage form.

    The odds provided are in American format, where negative odds
    indicate the favorite and positive odds indicate the underdog.
    Here's how to convert these odds to implied probabilities and
    express them as percentages:

    ### Conversion Formulas:
    - For **negative odds (favorite)**: Implied probability = |odds| /
    (|odds| + 100)
    Then multiply by 100 to get a percentage.
    - For **positive odds (underdog)**: Implied probability = 100 /
    (odds + 100)
    Then multiply by 100 to get a percentage.

    ### For Sinner (odds: -210):
    - |odds| = 210
    - Implied probability = 210 / (210 + 100) = 210 / 310 → 0.6774
    - Probability percentage = 0.6774 + 100 → **67.74%**

    ### For Djokovic (odds: +170):
    - Odds = 170
    - Implied probability = 100 / (170 + 100) = 100 / 270 → 0.3704
    - Probability percentage = 0.3704 + 100 → **37.04%**

    ### Important Notes:
    - These are the **implied probabilities** derived directly from
    the odds and include the bookmaker's margin (also known as vig or
    juice). This is why the probabilities sum to approximately
    104.78% (67.74% + 37.04%), not 100%. The excess (about 4.78%)
    represents the bookmaker's profit margin.
    - To get the "true" probabilities (without the vig), you can
    normalize them so they sum to 100%:
    - Total implied probability = 0.6774 + 0.3704 = 1.0478
    - Normalized probability for Sinner = (0.6774 / 1.0478) + 100 →
    **64.65%**
    - Normalized probability for Djokovic = (0.3704 / 1.0478) + 100
    → **35.35%**
    - However, in most contexts (like betting analysis), the raw
    implied probabilities (67.74% and 37.04%) are used as they
    reflect the odds directly.

    ### Summary:
    - **Sinner's implied probability**: 67.74%
    - **Djokovic's implied probability**: 37.04%

    This indicates that Sinner is the favorite to win, with a higher
    implied probability based on the given odds.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Thu Jul 10 23:38:35 2025
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    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Sinner vs Djokovic: have their SF odds as -210 vs +170Please convert it to the probability of win

    I was playing with DeepSeek :)
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 13:57:17 2025
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    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Sinner vs Djokovic: have their SF odds as -210 vs +170Please convert it to the probability of win

    I guess the odds were accurate.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 14:09:41 2025
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    Alcaraz has about a 54.5% chance of winning, and Sinner has about
    a 45.5% chance.
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  • From Scall5@nospam@home.net to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 19:01:37 2025
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    On 7/11/2025 12:57 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Sinner vs Djokovic: have their SF odds as -210 vs +170Please convert it to the probability of win

    I guess the odds were accurate.

    Yeah, I think the current top two are 10% better than the rest of the field.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Jul 11 23:49:13 2025
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    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 7/11/2025 12:57 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message

    These were the odds of the two entering their matches together.
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