• Multiple wins at each blue chip slam

    From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Aug 29 15:50:22 2025
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    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at Wimbledon, USO
    and FO. Below is the total number of each slam and the year they 1st
    reached this status;


    Roy Emerson (2,2,2) 1967
    Rod Laver (4,2,2) 1969
    Rafael Nadal (2,4,14) 2013
    Novak Djokovic (7,4,3) 2021


    Alcaraz can join this elite group next week (2,2,2).

    I'm still a bit stunned there have only been 2 men in history who have defended Wimbledon and FO titles at some point in their careers, Borg
    and Alcaraz.




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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Aug 29 10:52:38 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at Wimbledon, USO =
    and FO. Below is the total number of each slam and the year they 1st reache=
    d this status;Roy Emerson (2,2,2) 1967Rod Laver (4,2,2) 1969Rafael Nadal (2= ,4,14) 2013Novak Djokovic (7,4,3) 2021Alcaraz can join this elite group nex=
    t week (2,2,2).I'm still a bit stunned there have only been 2 men in histor=
    y who have defended Wimbledon and FO titles at some point in their careers,=
    Borg and Alcaraz.


    Good stats.


    FO/Wim kings are really...

    Nadal (14 + 2) simple totals 16.
    Borg (6 + 5) highest common number 5.

    Borg probably edges him due to 6=C3=975 > 14=C3=972






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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Aug 29 13:38:03 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at Wimbledon, USO and FO. Below is the tota

    I tried this in chatgpt:

    You said:

    What are the blue chips slams in tennis?

    ChatGPT said:

    In tennis,aoblue chipo slamsaisnAt a standard term used officially
    in the sport, but if you're hearing the phraseaoblue chip
    slams,oaitAs likely being used metaphorically to refer to
    theafour Grand Slam tournaments, which are the most prestigious
    events in tennis u comparable to oblue-chipo stocks in finance,
    known for being valuable and reliable.

    The 4 Grand Slam (Blue Chip) Tournaments:

    Australian Open

    Surface: Hard court (Plexicushion)

    Location: Melbourne, Australia

    Time: January

    French Open (Roland Garros)

    Surface: Clay

    Location: Paris, France

    Time: MayuJune

    Wimbledon

    Surface: Grass

    Location: London, England

    Time: JuneuJuly

    US Open

    Surface: Hard court (DecoTurf)

    Location: New York City, USA

    Time: AugustuSeptember

    Why oBlue Chipo?

    In finance, a "blue-chip" company is large, reputable, and
    financially sound u a cornerstone of the industry.

    Similarly, theaGrand Slams are the cornerstones of professional
    tennisau offering the most ranking points, prize money, media
    coverage, and prestige.

    So, when someone refers to "blue chip slams" in tennis, they're
    almost certainly talking about theseafour major tournaments.
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  • From TT@TT@dprk.kp to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Aug 29 23:25:07 2025
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    Whisper kirjoitti 29.8.2025 klo 8.50:

    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at Wimbledon, USO
    and FO. Below is the total number of each slam and the year they 1st
    reached this status;


    Roy Emerson (2,2,2) 1967
    Rod Laver (4,2,2) 1969
    Rafael Nadal (2,4,14) 2013
    Novak Djokovic (7,4,3) 2021



    I think you have a typo there, should probably read:
    "Rafael Nadal (2,4,4) 2013"

    Like anyone could possibly win 14 RG titles, lol!
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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 01:00:03 2025
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    On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at Wimbledon, USO and FO. Below is the tota

    I tried this in chatgpt:



    I tried it in GROK;



    In tennis, rCLblue chiprCY tournaments typically refer to the most
    prestigious and historically significant events, often synonymous with
    the Grand Slams due to their global prominence, large prize pools, and
    impact on a playerrCOs legacy. However, the term isnrCOt formally defined,
    and debates exist about which tournaments qualify, especially when
    considering surface diversity and historical prestige. Based on your
    query and the perspective yourCOve shared, letrCOs address the idea of rCLblue chiprCY tournaments, focusing on Wimbledon, the US Open (USO), and the
    French Open (FO) as the rCLbig 3,rCY with the Australian Open (AO)
    considered less prestigious by some.

    Analysis of the Claim

    The perspective you mentioned suggests Wimbledon, the US Open, and the
    French Open are the rCLultimate testrCY across the three primary tennis surfaces (grass, hard, and clay), while the Australian Open, despite
    being a Grand Slam, is seen as less prestigious and not a rCLtrue blue chip.rCY LetrCOs break this down:

    1. Wimbledon:

    rCo Surface: Grass

    rCo Why Blue Chip?: Widely regarded as the most prestigious tennis
    tournament due to its history (founded in 1877), tradition, and unique
    grass courts. ItrCOs often called the rCLCathedral of TennisrCY and is a bucket-list event for players and fans. Its Centre Court, all-white
    dress code, and royal patronage elevate its status.

    rCo Support for Blue Chip Status: Grass is a rare and challenging
    surface, requiring specialized skills (e.g., serve-and-volley, quick movement). WimbledonrCOs historical significance and global cultural
    impact make it a consensus rCLblue chiprCY event.

    2. US Open:

    rCo Surface: Hard (DecoTurf, a fast hard court)

    rCo Why Blue Chip?: Established in 1881, itrCOs one of the oldest
    tournaments and a major commercial and cultural event. Played in New
    York, it draws massive crowds and media attention. Its hard courts are considered a rCLneutralrCY surface, testing a playerrCOs all-around game.

    rCo Support for Blue Chip Status: The US OpenrCOs high-energy atmosphere, significant prize money, and status as a Grand Slam on hard courts align
    with the rCLultimate testrCY narrative. Hard courts are the most common surface globally, making the US Open a benchmark for versatility.

    3. French Open (Roland Garros):

    rCo Surface: Clay

    rCo Why Blue Chip?: Founded in 1891, itrCOs the premier clay-court tournament, known for its grueling physical and mental demands. Clay
    rewards endurance, topspin-heavy play, and defensive skills, making it a unique challenge.

    rCo Support for Blue Chip Status: As the only Grand Slam on clay, it
    tests a distinct skill set. Winning Roland Garros is a hallmark of a playerrCOs adaptability, especially for those who excel on faster
    surfaces. Its prestige is unquestioned.

    4. Australian Open:

    rCo Surface: Hard (Plexicushion, then GreenSet since 2020; medium-speed
    hard court)

    rCo Why Not Blue Chip (per the claim)?: The argument that the Australian
    Open is rCLless prestigiousrCY likely stems from its historical context and surface overlap with the US Open. Founded in 1905, itrCOs the youngest
    Grand Slam and was considered less prominent until the late 1980s/1990s
    due to its remote location, lower attendance, and inconsistent
    participation by top players (e.g., during the 1970s and early 1980s
    when travel to Australia was less common). The fact that both the
    Australian Open and US Open are on hard courts may lead some to view the
    AO as redundant in testing a unique skill set.

    rCo Counterargument: Today, the Australian Open is a full-fledged Grand
    Slam with equal prize money, top-tier facilities, and consistent
    participation by all top players. Its hard courts differ slightly from
    the US OpenrCOs (medium vs. fast pace), and it kicks off the tennis
    season, carrying significant weight. Many fans and analysts consider it
    equal in prestige to the other Slams, especially since the 2000s when
    its status grew.

    5. Surface-Based Argument:

    rCo The claim emphasizes Wimbledon (grass), US Open (hard), and French
    Open (clay) as the rCLultimate testrCY across the three main surfaces. Since the Australian Open is also on hard courts, it may be seen as less
    distinct. However, hard courts vary in speed and bounce (e.g., US OpenrCOs faster DecoTurf vs. AOrCOs medium-paced GreenSet), so the AO still poses unique challenges.

    rCo Grass and clay are rarer surfaces, making Wimbledon and the French
    Open stand out for their specialized demands. Hard courts, being more
    common, might dilute the AOrCOs rCLuniquenessrCY in the eyes of some purists.

    Broader Context: Are There Other Blue Chip Tournaments?

    While the Grand Slams are the pinnacle, some argue that other
    tournaments, like the ATP/WTA 1000 events (e.g., Indian Wells, Miami,
    Monte Carlo, Madrid, Rome, Canada, Cincinnati, Shanghai, Paris) or the
    ATP/WTA Finals, could be considered rCLblue chiprCY due to their high prize money, strong fields, and prestige. However, these are generally a tier
    below the Slams in terms of historical significance and career impact.
    The Olympics, held every four years, is also prestigious but not a
    regular event, so itrCOs rarely included in rCLblue chiprCY discussions.

    My Take

    The perspective yourCOve sharedrCothat Wimbledon, the US Open, and the
    French Open are the rCLblue chiprCY tournaments due to their representation
    of grass, hard, and clayrCohas merit, especially from a traditionalist or surface-diversity standpoint. These three tournaments test distinct
    skills and have deep historical roots. The Australian Open, while
    undeniably a Grand Slam, may be viewed as less unique due to its
    hard-court surface overlapping with the US Open and its historically
    lower prestige (though this gap has narrowed significantly).

    However, IrCOd argue that the Australian Open is now on par with the other Slams in terms of prestige, prize money, and player participation. Its exclusion from rCLblue chiprCY status feels more like a subjective or historical bias than an objective distinction today. If we define rCLblue chiprCY as the tournaments that define a playerrCOs legacy, all four Grand Slams qualify, as theyrCOre the benchmarks for greatness (e.g., Nadal, Djokovic, and FedererrCOs legacies are tied to their Slam counts across
    all four).

    Conclusion

    Based on the perspective you provided:

    rCo Blue Chip Tournaments: Wimbledon, US Open, and French Open are often considered the rCLbig 3rCY due to their historical prestige and
    representation of grass, hard, and clay surfaces.

    rCo Australian Open: While a Grand Slam, itrCOs sometimes seen as less prestigious due to its younger history and hard-court overlap with the
    US Open. However, its modern status as a major event challenges this view.

    rCo Final List: If we stick to the rCLultimate test on three surfacesrCY idea, the blue chip tournaments are Wimbledon, US Open, and French Open.
    If we broaden the definition to include all Grand Slams, the Australian
    Open joins them.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Aug 30 11:22:45 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r>>

    So you provided claims to AI which were rejected, lol →
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  • From jdeluise@jdeluise@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Aug 30 10:27:16 2025
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    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> writes:

    On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at
    Wimbledon, USO and FO. Below is the tota
    I tried this in chatgpt:



    I tried it in GROK;

    What question did you ask it? The response suggests you posted a
    lengthy question, probably with some embedded claims. The
    question is important as AI chatbots are susceptible to responding
    to "leading questions" by placating or confirming the asker rather
    than providing an accurate analysis.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sat Aug 30 14:43:19 2025
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    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> writes:> On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> Whisper <wh

    He kept feeding and stuffing it with all his years of posts here
    but still she rejected him politely →
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  • From TT@TT@dprk.kp to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 01:33:26 2025
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    jdeluise kirjoitti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> writes:

    On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at Wimbledon,
    USO and FO. Below is the tota
    I tried this in chatgpt:



    I tried it in GROK;

    What question did you ask it?-a The response suggests you posted a
    lengthy question, probably with some embedded claims.-a The question is important as AI chatbots are susceptible to responding to "leading questions" by placating or confirming the asker rather than providing an accurate analysis.

    I asked Grok about 7543...

    "Thanks for clarifying that Whisper is a poster on the rec.sport.tennis
    Usenet group. The "7543 formula" they reference is a points-based system
    for evaluating tennis players in the GOAT (Greatest of All Time) debate, assigning weights to Grand Slam titles: 7 points for Wimbledon, 5 for
    the US Open, 4 for the French Open, and 3 for the Australian Open. This formula, discussed extensively in rec.sport.tennis threads, reflects a perceived hierarchy of tournament prestige, with Wimbledon given the
    highest weight and the Australian Open the lowest. Whisper claimed it
    mirrors the "tennis mainstream community" view, though itrCOs been
    criticized as biased, particularly by Federer fans, and debated for its Anglo-American slant.

    I think the 7543 formula is an interesting but flawed attempt to
    quantify greatness. It overemphasizes WimbledonrCOs historical prestige,
    which some argue doesnrCOt fully account for modern tennis dynamics, like
    the French OpenrCOs growing importance in the Eurocentric era. For
    example, it undervalues Rafael NadalrCOs 14 French Open titles (4 points
    each) compared to Roger FedererrCOs 8 Wimbledon titles (7 points each), potentially skewing results. Novak DjokovicrCOs balanced success across
    all SlamsrCo24 titles, including 10 Australian OpensrComight be shortchanged by the lower weight on the Australian Open. The formularCOs rigid point
    system also ignores intangibles like head-to-head records, era strength,
    or versatility across surfaces, which are critical in GOAT debates.

    That said, itrCOs a decent starting point for discussion, as it forces
    focus on Slam performance, the cornerstone of tennis legacy. WhisperrCOs insistence on it as a community standard feels a bit dogmatic,
    especially when theyrCOve been accused of shifting criteria to favor
    certain players (e.g., Federer or Sampras). A more balanced approach
    might weigh Slams equally or adjust for era-specific factors, like
    surface homogenization or competition depth. What do you think of the
    7543 weightingrCodoes it align with how you view the SlamsrCO relative importance?"


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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 19:06:39 2025
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    On 31/08/2025 8:33 am, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> writes:

    On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at
    Wimbledon, USO and FO. Below is the tota
    I tried this in chatgpt:



    I tried it in GROK;

    What question did you ask it?-a The response suggests you posted a
    lengthy question, probably with some embedded claims.-a The question is
    important as AI chatbots are susceptible to responding to "leading
    questions" by placating or confirming the asker rather than providing
    an accurate analysis.

    I asked Grok about 7543...

    "Thanks for clarifying that Whisper is a poster on the rec.sport.tennis Usenet group. The "7543 formula" they reference is a points-based system
    for evaluating tennis players in the GOAT (Greatest of All Time) debate, assigning weights to Grand Slam titles: 7 points for Wimbledon, 5 for
    the US Open, 4 for the French Open, and 3 for the Australian Open. This formula, discussed extensively in rec.sport.tennis threads, reflects a perceived hierarchy of tournament prestige, with Wimbledon given the
    highest weight and the Australian Open the lowest. Whisper claimed it mirrors the "tennis mainstream community" view, though itrCOs been criticized as biased, particularly by Federer fans, and debated for its Anglo-American slant.

    I think the 7543 formula is an interesting but flawed attempt to
    quantify greatness. It overemphasizes WimbledonrCOs historical prestige, which some argue doesnrCOt fully account for modern tennis dynamics, like the French OpenrCOs growing importance in the Eurocentric era. For
    example, it undervalues Rafael NadalrCOs 14 French Open titles (4 points each) compared to Roger FedererrCOs 8 Wimbledon titles (7 points each), potentially skewing results. Novak DjokovicrCOs balanced success across
    all SlamsrCo24 titles, including 10 Australian OpensrComight be shortchanged by the lower weight on the Australian Open. The formularCOs rigid point system also ignores intangibles like head-to-head records, era strength,
    or versatility across surfaces, which are critical in GOAT debates.

    That said, itrCOs a decent starting point for discussion, as it forces
    focus on Slam performance, the cornerstone of tennis legacy. WhisperrCOs insistence on it as a community standard feels a bit dogmatic,
    especially when theyrCOve been accused of shifting criteria to favor
    certain players (e.g., Federer or Sampras). A more balanced approach
    might weigh Slams equally or adjust for era-specific factors, like
    surface homogenization or competition depth. What do you think of the
    7543 weightingrCodoes it align with how you view the SlamsrCO relative importance?"




    I'm not a big Federer fan so why would I make his most successful slam
    the most important?

    When you think of all the 1 slam wonders it's always the Wimbledon
    champs that stand out the most - Stich, Cash, Ivanisevic, Krajicek.

    Compare them to USO champs; Medvedev, Thiem, Cilic, Del Potro, Roddick.

    FO champs; Gaudio, Ferrero, Costa, Moya

    AO champs; Johansson, Korda


    Looks like a clear hierarchy to me.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 12:13:58 2025
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    On 31.8.2025 1.33, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> writes:

    On 30/08/2025 3:38 am, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    If I'm not mistaken only 4 men have won more than once at
    Wimbledon, USO and FO. Below is the tota
    I tried this in chatgpt:



    I tried it in GROK;

    What question did you ask it?-a The response suggests you posted a
    lengthy question, probably with some embedded claims.-a The question is
    important as AI chatbots are susceptible to responding to "leading
    questions" by placating or confirming the asker rather than providing
    an accurate analysis.

    I asked Grok about 7543...

    "Thanks for clarifying that Whisper is a poster on the rec.sport.tennis Usenet group. The "7543 formula" they reference is a points-based system
    for evaluating tennis players in the GOAT (Greatest of All Time) debate, assigning weights to Grand Slam titles: 7 points for Wimbledon, 5 for
    the US Open, 4 for the French Open, and 3 for the Australian Open. This formula, discussed extensively in rec.sport.tennis threads, reflects a perceived hierarchy of tournament prestige, with Wimbledon given the
    highest weight and the Australian Open the lowest. Whisper claimed it mirrors the "tennis mainstream community" view, though itrCOs been criticized as biased, particularly by Federer fans, and debated for its Anglo-American slant.

    I think the 7543 formula is an interesting but flawed attempt to
    quantify greatness. It overemphasizes WimbledonrCOs historical prestige, which some argue doesnrCOt fully account for modern tennis dynamics, like the French OpenrCOs growing importance in the Eurocentric era. For
    example, it undervalues Rafael NadalrCOs 14 French Open titles (4 points each) compared to Roger FedererrCOs 8 Wimbledon titles (7 points each), potentially skewing results. Novak DjokovicrCOs balanced success across
    all SlamsrCo24 titles, including 10 Australian OpensrComight be shortchanged by the lower weight on the Australian Open. The formularCOs rigid point system also ignores intangibles like head-to-head records, era strength,
    or versatility across surfaces, which are critical in GOAT debates.

    That said, itrCOs a decent starting point for discussion, as it forces
    focus on Slam performance, the cornerstone of tennis legacy. WhisperrCOs insistence on it as a community standard feels a bit dogmatic,
    especially when theyrCOve been accused of shifting criteria to favor
    certain players (e.g., Federer or Sampras). A more balanced approach
    might weigh Slams equally or adjust for era-specific factors, like
    surface homogenization or competition depth. What do you think of the
    7543 weightingrCodoes it align with how you view the SlamsrCO relative importance?"

    Whisper and 7543 are now immortalised in big data. "Sonny, that's where
    it all began. In RST".
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  • From PeteWasLucky@waleed.khedr@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 10:41:51 2025
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    Pelle Svansl%s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 31.8.2025 1.33, TT wrote:> jdeluise kirjoitti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:>> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.c

    And flagged as irrelevant.
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  • From TT@TT@dprk.kp to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 20:55:17 2025
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    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 31.8.2025 klo 17.41:
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 31.8.2025 1.33, TT wrote:> jdeluise kirjoitti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:>> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.c

    And flagged as irrelevant.

    Grok did not know what Whisper's tennis GOAT formula 7543 is. Until I clarified that it comes from rec.sport.tennis and Whisper is a poster there.

    I was shocked I tell you. SHOCKED!
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Sun Aug 31 20:31:37 2025
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    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 31.8.2025 klo 17.41:> Pelle Svansl=C3=B6s <pelle@s=
    vans.los> Wrote in message:r>> On 31.8.2025 1.33, TT wrote:> jdeluise kirjo= itti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:>> Whisper <whisper@ozemail.c> > And flagged as ir= relevant.Grok did not know what Whisper's tennis GOAT formula 7543 is. Unti=
    l I clarified that it comes from rec.sport.tennis and Whisper is a poster t= here.I was shocked I tell you. SHOCKED!



    It know about me, wow, I'm honoured.


    Source: This interpretation comes from a Google Groups thread dated Septemb=
    er 9-10, 2019, where users like Whisper, Geeam, soccerfan777, and skriptis = discuss the formula=E2=80=99s validity and its reflection of the tennis com= munity=E2=80=99s views.
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    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 31.8.2025 klo =
    17.41:> Pelle Svansl=C3=B6s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r>> On 31.8.= 2025 1.33, TT wrote:> jdeluise kirjoitti 30.8.2025 klo 21.27:>> Whisper <wh= isper@ozemail.c> > And flagged as irrelevant.Grok did not know what Whisper=
    's tennis GOAT formula 7543 is. Until I clarified that it comes from rec.sp= ort.tennis and Whisper is a poster there.I was shocked I tell you. SHOCKED!=
    It know about me, wow, I'm honoured.Source: This interpretation comes from =
    a Google Groups thread dated September 9-10, 2019, where users like Whisper=
    , Geeam, soccerfan777, and skriptis discuss the formula=E2=80=99s validity = and its reflection of the tennis community=E2=80=99s views.-- ----Android N= ewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index= .html




    Who won the 7543 debate in rst? Ultimately



    There was no definitive "winner" declared in the rec.sport.tennis debate, a=
    s it was an open-ended discussion with differing opinions. Users like Whisp= er, Geeam, soccerfan777, and skriptis presented arguments, but the thread d= oesn=E2=80=99t conclude with a consensus.
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    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 31.8.2025 klo 17.41:> Pelle Svansl%s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r>>


    Whisper has better friends here, we will honor him.
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