• How Will We Know When We Have Lost Our Democracy?

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    How will Americans know when we have lost our democracy?

    Authoritarianism is harder to recognize than it used to be. Most
    21st-century autocrats are elected. Rather than violently suppress
    opposition like Castro or Pinochet, todayrCOs autocrats convert public institutions into political weapons, using law enforcement, tax and
    regulatory agencies to punish opponents and bully the media and civil
    society onto the sidelines. We call this competitive authoritarianism rCo
    a system in which parties compete in elections but the systematic abuse
    of an incumbentrCOs power tilts the playing field against the opposition.
    It is how autocrats rule in contemporary Hungary, India, Serbia and
    Turkey and how Hugo Ch|ivez ruled in Venezuela.

    The descent into competitive authoritarianism doesnrCOt always set off
    alarms. Because governments attack their rivals through nominally legal
    means like defamation suits, tax audits and politically targeted investigations, citizens are often slow to realize they are succumbing
    to authoritarian rule.

    How, then, can we tell whether America has crossed the line into authoritarianism? We propose a simple metric: the cost of opposing the government. In democracies, citizens are not punished for peacefully
    opposing those in power. They need not worry about publishing critical opinions, supporting opposition candidates or engaging in peaceful
    protest because they know they will not suffer retribution from the government. In fact, the idea of legitimate opposition rCo that all
    citizens have a right to criticize, organize opposition to and seek to
    remove the government through elections rCo is a foundational principle of democracy.

    Under authoritarianism, by contrast, opposition comes with a price.

    When citizens must think twice about criticizing or opposing the
    government because they could credibly face government retribution, they
    no longer live in a full democracy.

    By that measure, America has crossed the line into competitive authoritarianism. The Trump administrationrCOs weaponization of government agencies and flurry of punitive actions against critics has raised the
    cost of opposition for a wide range of Americans.

    The Trump administration has taken (or credibly threatened) punitive
    action against a strikingly large number of individuals and
    organizations that it considers its opponents.

    It has, for example, selectively deployed law enforcement agencies
    against critics. President Trump directed the Department of Justice to
    open investigations into Christopher Krebs (who as the head of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency publicly contradicted
    Mr. TrumprCOs false claims of election fraud in 2020) and Miles Taylor
    (who, when he was a Department of Homeland Security official,
    anonymously wrote an opinion piece criticizing the president in 2018).
    The administration has also opened a criminal investigation into Letitia James, the attorney general of New York, who filed a lawsuit against Mr.
    Trump in 2022.

    The administration has targeted major law firms for retribution. It effectively prohibited the federal government from hiring Perkins Coie;
    Paul, Weiss; and other leading law firms it perceived as friendly to the Democratic Party. It also threatened to cancel their clientsrCO government contracts and suspended their employeesrCO security clearances, preventing them from working on many cases related to the government.

    Donors to the Democratic Party and other progressive causes also face political retribution. In April, Mr. Trump directed the attorney general
    to investigate the fund-raising practices of ActBlue, the Democratic
    PartyrCOs main donor platform, in an apparent effort to weaken his rivalsrCO fund-raising infrastructure. Major Democratic donors now fear
    retribution in the form of tax and other investigations. Some have hired additional legal counsel to prepare for tax audits, congressional investigations or lawsuits. Others have moved assets abroad.

    Like many autocratic governments, the Trump administration has targeted
    the media. Mr. Trump has sued ABC News, CBS News, Meta, Simon & Schuster
    and The Des Moines Register. The lawsuits appear to have weak legal
    bases, but because media outlets like ABC and CBS are owned by
    conglomerates with other interests affected by federal government
    decisions, a prolonged legal battle against a sitting president could be costly.

    At the same time, the administration has politicized the Federal Communications Commission and deployed it against independent media. It
    opened an investigation of fund-raising practices by PBS and NPR,
    potentially as a prelude to funding cuts. It also reinstated complaints against ABC, CBS and NBC for anti-Trump bias while opting not to
    reinstate a complaint against Fox News for promoting lies about the 2020 election.

    Remarkably, these attacks against opponents and the media have occurred
    with even greater speed and force than equivalent actions taken by
    elected autocrats in Hungary, India, Turkey or Venezuela during their
    first years in office.

    Mr. Trump has also followed other autocrats in assaulting universities.

    The Department of Education opened investigations into at least 52 universities for their participation in diversity, equity and inclusion programs, and it has placed some 60 universities under investigation for antisemitism, threatening them with severe penalties. The administration illegally suspended hundreds of millions of dollars in approved funding
    to leading schools such as Brown, Columbia, Princeton and the University
    of Pennsylvania. It has frozen $2.2 billion in government grants to
    Harvard, asked the I.R.S. to revoke the universityrCOs tax-exempt status
    and threatened to revoke its eligibility to host foreign students.

    Finally, Republican politicians face threats of violence if they oppose
    Mr. Trump. Fear of violence from his supporters reportedly dissuaded
    some Republican lawmakers from voting for his impeachment and conviction
    after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack. Republican senators were also threatened during confirmation hearings in early 2025. Senator Thom Tillis,
    Republican of North Carolina, reported that the F.B.I. warned him of rCLcredible death threatsrCY while he was considering opposing Pete HegsethrCOs nomination as secretary of defense.

    For many American citizens and organizations, then, the cost of
    opposition has risen markedly. Although these costs are not as high as
    in dictatorships like Russia rCo where critics are routinely imprisoned, exiled or killed rCo America has, with stunning speed, descended into a
    world in which opponents of the government fear criminal investigations, lawsuits, tax audits and other punitive measures and even Republican politicians are, as one former Trump administration official put it, rCLscaredrCY out of their minds rCLabout death threats.rCY

    This is not the first time that critics of the U.S. government have been harassed, threatened or punished: Dissidents were targeted during the
    Red Scares of 1919 and rCO20 and the McCarthy era, the F.B.I. harassed
    civil rights leaders and left-leaning activists for decades, and the
    Nixon administration attempted to use the I.R.S. and other agencies to
    attack his rivals. These measures were clearly undemocratic, but they
    were more limited in scope than those occurring today. And Mr. NixonrCOs efforts to politicize the government triggered his resignation, in part,
    and a set of reforms that helped curtail such abuse after 1974.

    The administrationrCOs authoritarian offensive has had a clear impact. It
    has changed how Americans behave, forcing them to think twice about
    engaging in what should be constitutionally protected opposition. Consequently, many of the politicians and societal organizations that
    should serve as watchdogs and checks on the executive are silencing
    themselves or retreating to the sidelines.

    For example, fear of retribution has had a chilling effect on donations
    to Democrats and progressive civic organizations, forcing several of
    them to scale back operations and lay off employees. In the wake of Mr. TrumprCOs attacks on leading law firms, opponents of the administration
    are struggling to find legal representation, as deep-pocketed and
    reputable firms that once readily engaged in legal battles with the
    government are lying low to avoid his wrath. Columbia University ceded
    to the administrationrCOs extortionary demands for greater restrictions on student expression.

    There are troubling signs of media self-censorship.

    And crucially, Republican lawmakers have abdicated their role as checks
    on executive power. As Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican of Alaska, put
    it, rCLWe are all afraid. ItrCOs quite a statement. But we are in a time and
    a place where I certainly have not been here before. And IrCOll tell you, IrCOm oftentimes very anxious myself about using my voice, because
    retaliation is real. And thatrCOs not right.rCY

    Americans are living under a new regime. The question now is whether we
    will allow it to take root.

    So far, American societyrCOs response to this authoritarian offensive has
    been underwhelming rCo alarmingly so.

    Civil society leaders seek to protect their organizations from
    government attacks: Chief executives need to protect shareholders and
    future business opportunities, media owners must avoid costly defamation
    suits and adverse regulatory rulings, and university presidents seek to
    avoid devastating funding cuts. For any individual leader, then, the
    price of defiance can often appear unbearably steep.

    Strategies of self-preservation have led too many civil society leaders
    to retreat into silence or acquiesce to authoritarian bullying. Small
    acts of acquiescence, framed as necessary defensive measures, feel like
    the only reasonable course. But this is the fatal logic of appeasement:
    the belief that quietly yielding in small, seemingly temporary ways will mitigate long-term harm.

    Appeasement, as Churchill warned, is like feeding a crocodile and hoping
    to be the last one eaten.

    The costs of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the descent
    into authoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have
    successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in recent years in Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.

    AmericarCOs courts remain independent and will almost certainly block some
    of the administrationrCOs most abusive measures. But judges rCo themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and even arrest rCo
    cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal opposition is
    essential.

    American civil society has the financial and organizational muscle to
    resist Mr. TrumprCOs authoritarian offensive.

    The costs of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the descent
    into authoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have
    successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in recent years in Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.

    AmericarCOs courts remain independent and will almost certainly block some
    of the administrationrCOs most abusive measures. But judges rCo themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and even arrest rCo
    cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal opposition is
    essential.

    American civil society has the financial and organizational muscle to
    resist Mr. TrumprCOs authoritarian offensive.

    But civil society must act collectively. Chief executives, law firms, universities, media outlets and Democratic politicians, as well as more traditional Republicans, have a common interest in preserving our constitutional democracy. When organizations work together and commit to
    a collective defense of democratic principles, they share the costs of defiance. The government cannot attack everyone all at once.

    So far, the most energetic opposition has come not from civic leaders
    but from everyday citizens, showing up at congressional town hall
    meetings or participating in Hands Off rallies across the country. Our
    leaders must follow their example.

    There are signs of an awakening. Harvard has refused to acquiesce to administration demands that would undermine academic freedom, Microsoft dropped a law firm that settled with the administration and hired one
    that defied it, and a new law firm based in Washington, D.C., announced
    plans to represent those wrongfully targeted by the government. When the
    most influential members of civil society fight back, it provides
    political cover for others. It also galvanizes ordinary citizens to join
    the fight.

    AmericarCOs slide into authoritarianism is reversible. But no one has ever defeated autocracy from the sidelines.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/opinion/trump-authoritarianism-democracy.html

    Slightly shortened. Read the original, if you must.
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  • From jdeluise@jdeluise@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Aug 25 20:34:25 2025
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    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:

    How will Americans know when we have lost our democracy?

    Authoritarianism is harder to recognize than it used to be. Most
    21st-century autocrats are elected. Rather than violently
    suppress
    opposition like Castro or Pinochet, todayrCOs autocrats convert
    public
    institutions into political weapons, using law enforcement, tax
    and
    regulatory agencies to punish opponents and bully the media and
    civil
    society onto the sidelines. We call this competitive
    authoritarianism
    rCo a system in which parties compete in elections but the
    systematic
    abuse of an incumbentrCOs power tilts the playing field against
    the
    opposition. It is how autocrats rule in contemporary Hungary,
    India,
    Serbia and Turkey and how Hugo Ch|ivez ruled in Venezuela.

    The descent into competitive authoritarianism doesnrCOt always set
    off
    alarms. Because governments attack their rivals through
    nominally
    legal means like defamation suits, tax audits and politically
    targeted
    investigations, citizens are often slow to realize they are
    succumbing
    to authoritarian rule.

    How, then, can we tell whether America has crossed the line into authoritarianism? We propose a simple metric: the cost of
    opposing the
    government. In democracies, citizens are not punished for
    peacefully
    opposing those in power. They need not worry about publishing
    critical
    opinions, supporting opposition candidates or engaging in
    peaceful
    protest because they know they will not suffer retribution from
    the
    government. In fact, the idea of legitimate opposition rCo that
    all
    citizens have a right to criticize, organize opposition to and
    seek to
    remove the government through elections rCo is a foundational
    principle
    of democracy.

    Under authoritarianism, by contrast, opposition comes with a
    price.

    When citizens must think twice about criticizing or opposing the
    government because they could credibly face government
    retribution,
    they no longer live in a full democracy.

    By that measure, America has crossed the line into competitive authoritarianism. The Trump administrationrCOs weaponization of
    government agencies and flurry of punitive actions against
    critics has
    raised the cost of opposition for a wide range of Americans.

    The Trump administration has taken (or credibly threatened)
    punitive
    action against a strikingly large number of individuals and
    organizations that it considers its opponents.

    It has, for example, selectively deployed law enforcement
    agencies
    against critics. President Trump directed the Department of
    Justice to
    open investigations into Christopher Krebs (who as the head of
    the
    Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency publicly
    contradicted
    Mr. TrumprCOs false claims of election fraud in 2020) and Miles
    Taylor
    (who, when he was a Department of Homeland Security official,
    anonymously wrote an opinion piece criticizing the president in
    2018). The administration has also opened a criminal
    investigation
    into Letitia James, the attorney general of New York, who filed
    a
    lawsuit against Mr. Trump in 2022.

    The administration has targeted major law firms for
    retribution. It
    effectively prohibited the federal government from hiring
    Perkins
    Coie; Paul, Weiss; and other leading law firms it perceived as
    friendly to the Democratic Party. It also threatened to cancel
    their
    clientsrCO government contracts and suspended their employeesrCO
    security
    clearances, preventing them from working on many cases related
    to the
    government.

    Donors to the Democratic Party and other progressive causes also
    face
    political retribution. In April, Mr. Trump directed the attorney
    general to investigate the fund-raising practices of ActBlue,
    the
    Democratic PartyrCOs main donor platform, in an apparent effort to
    weaken his rivalsrCO fund-raising infrastructure. Major Democratic
    donors now fear retribution in the form of tax and other
    investigations. Some have hired additional legal counsel to
    prepare
    for tax audits, congressional investigations or lawsuits. Others
    have
    moved assets abroad.

    Like many autocratic governments, the Trump administration has
    targeted the media. Mr. Trump has sued ABC News, CBS News, Meta,
    Simon
    & Schuster and The Des Moines Register. The lawsuits appear to
    have
    weak legal bases, but because media outlets like ABC and CBS are
    owned
    by conglomerates with other interests affected by federal
    government
    decisions, a prolonged legal battle against a sitting president
    could
    be costly.

    At the same time, the administration has politicized the Federal Communications Commission and deployed it against independent
    media. It opened an investigation of fund-raising practices by
    PBS and
    NPR, potentially as a prelude to funding cuts. It also
    reinstated
    complaints against ABC, CBS and NBC for anti-Trump bias while
    opting
    not to reinstate a complaint against Fox News for promoting lies
    about
    the 2020 election.

    Remarkably, these attacks against opponents and the media have
    occurred with even greater speed and force than equivalent
    actions
    taken by elected autocrats in Hungary, India, Turkey or
    Venezuela
    during their first years in office.

    Mr. Trump has also followed other autocrats in assaulting
    universities.

    The Department of Education opened investigations into at least
    52
    universities for their participation in diversity, equity and
    inclusion programs, and it has placed some 60 universities under investigation for antisemitism, threatening them with severe
    penalties. The administration illegally suspended hundreds of
    millions
    of dollars in approved funding to leading schools such as Brown,
    Columbia, Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania. It has
    frozen
    $2.2 billion in government grants to Harvard, asked the
    I.R.S. to
    revoke the universityrCOs tax-exempt status and threatened to
    revoke its
    eligibility to host foreign students.

    Finally, Republican politicians face threats of violence if they
    oppose Mr. Trump. Fear of violence from his supporters
    reportedly
    dissuaded some Republican lawmakers from voting for his
    impeachment
    and conviction after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack. Republican
    senators
    were also threatened during confirmation hearings in early
    2025. Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina,
    reported that
    the F.B.I. warned him of rCLcredible death threatsrCY while he was considering opposing Pete HegsethrCOs nomination as secretary of
    defense.

    For many American citizens and organizations, then, the cost of
    opposition has risen markedly. Although these costs are not as
    high as
    in dictatorships like Russia rCo where critics are routinely
    imprisoned,
    exiled or killed rCo America has, with stunning speed, descended
    into a
    world in which opponents of the government fear criminal
    investigations, lawsuits, tax audits and other punitive measures
    and
    even Republican politicians are, as one former Trump
    administration
    official put it, rCLscaredrCY out of their minds rCLabout death
    threats.rCY

    This is not the first time that critics of the U.S. government
    have
    been harassed, threatened or punished: Dissidents were targeted
    during
    the Red Scares of 1919 and rCO20 and the McCarthy era, the
    F.B.I. harassed civil rights leaders and left-leaning activists
    for
    decades, and the Nixon administration attempted to use the
    I.R.S. and
    other agencies to attack his rivals. These measures were clearly undemocratic, but they were more limited in scope than those
    occurring
    today. And Mr. NixonrCOs efforts to politicize the government
    triggered
    his resignation, in part, and a set of reforms that helped
    curtail
    such abuse after 1974.

    The administrationrCOs authoritarian offensive has had a clear
    impact. It has changed how Americans behave, forcing them to
    think
    twice about engaging in what should be constitutionally
    protected
    opposition. Consequently, many of the politicians and societal
    organizations that should serve as watchdogs and checks on the
    executive are silencing themselves or retreating to the
    sidelines.

    For example, fear of retribution has had a chilling effect on
    donations to Democrats and progressive civic organizations,
    forcing
    several of them to scale back operations and lay off
    employees. In the
    wake of Mr. TrumprCOs attacks on leading law firms, opponents of
    the
    administration are struggling to find legal representation, as
    deep-pocketed and reputable firms that once readily engaged in
    legal
    battles with the government are lying low to avoid his
    wrath. Columbia
    University ceded to the administrationrCOs extortionary demands
    for
    greater restrictions on student expression.

    There are troubling signs of media self-censorship.

    And crucially, Republican lawmakers have abdicated their role as
    checks on executive power. As Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican
    of
    Alaska, put it, rCLWe are all afraid. ItrCOs quite a statement. But
    we are
    in a time and a place where I certainly have not been here
    before. And
    IrCOll tell you, IrCOm oftentimes very anxious myself about using my
    voice, because retaliation is real. And thatrCOs not right.rCY

    Americans are living under a new regime. The question now is
    whether
    we will allow it to take root.

    So far, American societyrCOs response to this authoritarian
    offensive
    has been underwhelming rCo alarmingly so.

    Civil society leaders seek to protect their organizations from
    government attacks: Chief executives need to protect
    shareholders and
    future business opportunities, media owners must avoid costly
    defamation suits and adverse regulatory rulings, and university
    presidents seek to avoid devastating funding cuts. For any
    individual
    leader, then, the price of defiance can often appear unbearably
    steep.

    Strategies of self-preservation have led too many civil society
    leaders to retreat into silence or acquiesce to authoritarian
    bullying. Small acts of acquiescence, framed as necessary
    defensive
    measures, feel like the only reasonable course. But this is the
    fatal
    logic of appeasement: the belief that quietly yielding in small,
    seemingly temporary ways will mitigate long-term harm.

    Appeasement, as Churchill warned, is like feeding a crocodile
    and
    hoping to be the last one eaten.

    The costs of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the
    descent
    into authoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have
    successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in recent years in
    Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.

    AmericarCOs courts remain independent and will almost certainly
    block
    some of the administrationrCOs most abusive measures. But judges rCo themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and
    even
    arrest rCo cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal
    opposition is essential.

    American civil society has the financial and organizational
    muscle to
    resist Mr. TrumprCOs authoritarian offensive.

    The costs of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the
    descent
    into authoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have
    successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in recent years in
    Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.

    AmericarCOs courts remain independent and will almost certainly
    block
    some of the administrationrCOs most abusive measures. But judges rCo themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and
    even
    arrest rCo cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal
    opposition is essential.

    American civil society has the financial and organizational
    muscle to
    resist Mr. TrumprCOs authoritarian offensive.

    But civil society must act collectively. Chief executives, law
    firms,
    universities, media outlets and Democratic politicians, as well
    as
    more traditional Republicans, have a common interest in
    preserving our
    constitutional democracy. When organizations work together and
    commit
    to a collective defense of democratic principles, they share the
    costs
    of defiance. The government cannot attack everyone all at once.

    So far, the most energetic opposition has come not from civic
    leaders
    but from everyday citizens, showing up at congressional town
    hall
    meetings or participating in Hands Off rallies across the
    country. Our
    leaders must follow their example.

    There are signs of an awakening. Harvard has refused to
    acquiesce to
    administration demands that would undermine academic freedom,
    Microsoft dropped a law firm that settled with the
    administration and
    hired one that defied it, and a new law firm based in
    Washington,
    D.C., announced plans to represent those wrongfully targeted by
    the
    government. When the most influential members of civil society
    fight
    back, it provides political cover for others. It also galvanizes
    ordinary citizens to join the fight.

    AmericarCOs slide into authoritarianism is reversible. But no one
    has
    ever defeated autocracy from the sidelines.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/opinion/trump-authoritarianism-democracy.html

    Slightly shortened. Read the original, if you must.

    On the bright side, Trump is also very old, probably too old to
    bring about his full authoritarian vision. And, he's really been
    slipping badly of late, both physically and cognitively. My
    question is whether Republicans can maintain their pace of change
    without Trump? Or is he holding it all together? I think the
    latter.

    My impression is that J.D. Vance isn't all that compelling to
    MAGA. His authenticity was fatally tarnished, I think, during the
    campaign. And he'd likely have to spend the rest of the term
    fighting internal power struggles. I could see a Republican "civil
    war" between more conventional Republicans and the newer
    spend-thrift fascist types. What Republican voice could unify the
    party AND successfully realize Trump's authoritarian vision?
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    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Pelle Svansl=C3=B6s <pelle@svans.los> writes:> How will Americans know wh=
    en we have lost our democracy?>> Authoritarianism is harder to recognize th=
    an it used to be. Most> 21st-century autocrats are elected. Rather than vio= lently > suppress> opposition like Castro or Pinochet, today=E2=80=99s auto= crats convert > public> institutions into political weapons, using law enfo= rcement, tax > and> regulatory agencies to punish opponents and bully the m= edia and > civil> society onto the sidelines. We call this competitive > au= thoritarianism> =E2=80=94 a system in which parties compete in elections bu=
    t the > systematic> abuse of an incumbent=E2=80=99s power tilts the playing=
    field against > the> opposition. It is how autocrats rule in contemporary = Hungary, > India,> Serbia and Turkey and how Hugo Ch=C3=A1vez ruled in Vene= zuela.>> The descent into competitive authoritarianism doesn=E2=80=99t alwa=
    ys set > off> alarms. Because governments attack their rivals through > nom= inally> legal means like defamation suits, tax audits and politically > tar= geted> investigations, citizens are often slow to realize they are > succum= bing> to authoritarian rule.>> How, then, can we tell whether America has c= rossed the line into> authoritarianism? We propose a simple metric: the cos=
    t of > opposing the> government. In democracies, citizens are not punished = for > peacefully> opposing those in power. They need not worry about publis= hing > critical> opinions, supporting opposition candidates or engaging in =
    peaceful> protest because they know they will not suffer retribution from=
    government. In fact, the idea of legitimate opposition =E2=80=94 th=
    at > all> citizens have a right to criticize, organize opposition to and > = seek to> remove the government through elections =E2=80=94 is a foundationa=
    l > principle> of democracy.>> Under authoritarianism, by contrast, opposit= ion comes with a > price.>> When citizens must think twice about criticizin=
    g or opposing the> government because they could credibly face government >=
    retribution,> they no longer live in a full democracy.>> By that measure, = America has crossed the line into competitive> authoritarianism. The Trump = administration=E2=80=99s weaponization of> government agencies and flurry o=
    f punitive actions against > critics has> raised the cost of opposition for=
    a wide range of Americans.>> The Trump administration has taken (or credib=
    ly threatened) > punitive> action against a strikingly large number of indi= viduals and> organizations that it considers its opponents.>> It has, for e= xample, selectively deployed law enforcement > agencies> against critics. P= resident Trump directed the Department of > Justice to> open investigations=
    into Christopher Krebs (who as the head of > the> Cybersecurity and Infras= tructure Security Agency publicly > contradicted> Mr. Trump=E2=80=99s false=
    claims of election fraud in 2020) and Miles > Taylor> (who, when he was a = Department of Homeland Security official,> anonymously wrote an opinion pie=
    ce criticizing the president in> 2018). The administration has also opened =
    a criminal > investigation> into Letitia James, the attorney general of New=
    York, who filed > a> lawsuit against Mr. Trump in 2022.>> The administrati=
    on has targeted major law firms for > retribution. It> effectively prohibit=
    ed the federal government from hiring > Perkins> Coie; Paul, Weiss; and oth=
    er leading law firms it perceived as> friendly to the Democratic Party. It = also threatened to cancel > their> clients=E2=80=99 government contracts an=
    d suspended their employees=E2=80=99 > security> clearances, preventing the=
    m from working on many cases related > to the> government.>> Donors to the = Democratic Party and other progressive causes also > face> political retrib= ution. In April, Mr. Trump directed the attorney> general to investigate th=
    e fund-raising practices of ActBlue, > the> Democratic Party=E2=80=99s main=
    donor platform, in an apparent effort to> weaken his rivals=E2=80=99 fund-= raising infrastructure. Major Democratic> donors now fear retribution in th=
    e form of tax and other> investigations. Some have hired additional legal c= ounsel to > prepare> for tax audits, congressional investigations or lawsui= ts. Others > have> moved assets abroad.>> Like many autocratic governments,=
    the Trump administration has> targeted the media. Mr. Trump has sued ABC N= ews, CBS News, Meta, > Simon> & Schuster and The Des Moines Register. The l= awsuits appear to > have> weak legal bases, but because media outlets like = ABC and CBS are > owned> by conglomerates with other interests affected by = federal > government> decisions, a prolonged legal battle against a sitting=
    president > could> be costly.>> At the same time, the administration has p= oliticized the Federal> Communications Commission and deployed it against i= ndependent> media. It opened an investigation of fund-raising practices by =
    PBS and> NPR, potentially as a prelude to funding cuts. It also > reinsta=
    complaints against ABC, CBS and NBC for anti-Trump bias while > opting=
    not to reinstate a complaint against Fox News for promoting lies > about>=
    the 2020 election.>> Remarkably, these attacks against opponents and the m= edia have> occurred with even greater speed and force than equivalent > act= ions> taken by elected autocrats in Hungary, India, Turkey or > Venezuela> = during their first years in office.>> Mr. Trump has also followed other aut= ocrats in assaulting > universities.>> The Department of Education opened i= nvestigations into at least > 52> universities for their participation in d= iversity, equity and> inclusion programs, and it has placed some 60 univers= ities under> investigation for antisemitism, threatening them with severe> = penalties. The administration illegally suspended hundreds of > millions> o=
    f dollars in approved funding to leading schools such as Brown,> Columbia, = Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania. It has > frozen> $2.2 billion=
    in government grants to Harvard, asked the > I.R.S. to> revoke the univers= ity=E2=80=99s tax-exempt status and threatened to > revoke its> eligibility=
    to host foreign students.>> Finally, Republican politicians face threats o=
    f violence if they> oppose Mr. Trump. Fear of violence from his supporters =
    reportedly> dissuaded some Republican lawmakers from voting for his > imp=
    eachment> and conviction after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack. Republican > senat=
    were also threatened during confirmation hearings in early> 2025. Sena=
    tor Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, > reported that> the F.B.I. = warned him of =E2=80=9Ccredible death threats=E2=80=9D while he was> consid= ering opposing Pete Hegseth=E2=80=99s nomination as secretary of> defense.>=
    For many American citizens and organizations, then, the cost of> oppositi=
    on has risen markedly. Although these costs are not as > high as> in dictat= orships like Russia =E2=80=94 where critics are routinely > imprisoned,> ex= iled or killed =E2=80=94 America has, with stunning speed, descended > into=
    world in which opponents of the government fear criminal> investigation=
    s, lawsuits, tax audits and other punitive measures > and> even Republican = politicians are, as one former Trump > administration> official put it, =E2= =80=9Cscared=E2=80=9D out of their minds =E2=80=9Cabout death > threats.=E2= =80=9D>> This is not the first time that critics of the U.S. government > h=
    been harassed, threatened or punished: Dissidents were targeted > duri=
    the Red Scares of 1919 and =E2=80=9920 and the McCarthy era, the> F.B.I=
    . harassed civil rights leaders and left-leaning activists > for> decades, = and the Nixon administration attempted to use the > I.R.S. and> other agenc= ies to attack his rivals. These measures were clearly> undemocratic, but th=
    ey were more limited in scope than those > occurring> today. And Mr. Nixon= =E2=80=99s efforts to politicize the government > triggered> his resignatio=
    n, in part, and a set of reforms that helped > curtail> such abuse after 19= 74.>> The administration=E2=80=99s authoritarian offensive has had a clear>=
    impact. It has changed how Americans behave, forcing them to > think> twic=
    e about engaging in what should be constitutionally > protected> opposition=
    . Consequently, many of the politicians and societal> organizations that sh= ould serve as watchdogs and checks on the> executive are silencing themselv=
    es or retreating to the > sidelines.>> For example, fear of retribution has=
    had a chilling effect on> donations to Democrats and progressive civic org= anizations, > forcing> several of them to scale back operations and lay off=
    employees. In the> wake of Mr. Trump=E2=80=99s attacks on leading law fi=
    rms, opponents of > the> administration are struggling to find legal repres= entation, as> deep-pocketed and reputable firms that once readily engaged i=
    n > legal> battles with the government are lying low to avoid his > wrath. = Columbia> University ceded to the administration=E2=80=99s extortionary dem= ands > for> greater restrictions on student expression.>> There are troubli=
    ng signs of media self-censorship.>> And crucially, Republican lawmakers ha=
    ve abdicated their role as> checks on executive power. As Senator Lisa Murk= owski, Republican > of> Alaska, put it, =E2=80=9CWe are all afraid. It=E2= =80=99s quite a statement. But > we are> in a time and a place where I cert= ainly have not been here > before. And> I=E2=80=99ll tell you, I=E2=80=99m = oftentimes very anxious myself about using my> voice, because retaliation i=
    s real. And that=E2=80=99s not right.=E2=80=9D>> Americans are living under=
    a new regime. The question now is > whether> we will allow it to take root= .>> So far, American society=E2=80=99s response to this authoritarian > off= ensive> has been underwhelming =E2=80=94 alarmingly so.>> Civil society lea= ders seek to protect their organizations from> government attacks: Chief ex= ecutives need to protect > shareholders and> future business opportunities,=
    media owners must avoid costly> defamation suits and adverse regulatory ru= lings, and university> presidents seek to avoid devastating funding cuts. F=
    or any > individual> leader, then, the price of defiance can often appear u= nbearably > steep.>> Strategies of self-preservation have led too many civi=
    l society> leaders to retreat into silence or acquiesce to authoritarian> b= ullying. Small acts of acquiescence, framed as necessary > defensive> measu= res, feel like the only reasonable course. But this is the > fatal> logic o=
    f appeasement: the belief that quietly yielding in small,> seemingly tempor= ary ways will mitigate long-term harm.>> Appeasement, as Churchill warned, =
    is like feeding a crocodile > and> hoping to be the last one eaten.>> The c= osts of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the > descent> into a= uthoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have> successfully resi= sted or reversed backsliding in recent years in> Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, = South Korea and elsewhere.>> America=E2=80=99s courts remain independent an=
    d will almost certainly > block> some of the administration=E2=80=99s most = abusive measures. But judges =E2=80=94> themselves targets of violent threa= ts, government harassment and > even> arrest =E2=80=94 cannot save democrac=
    y on their own. Broader societal> opposition is essential.>> American civil=
    society has the financial and organizational > muscle to> resist Mr. Trump= =E2=80=99s authoritarian offensive.>> The costs of opposition are surmounta= ble. And importantly, the > descent> into authoritarianism is reversible. P= ro-democracy forces have> successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in = recent years in> Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.>> Ame= rica=E2=80=99s courts remain independent and will almost certainly > block>=
    some of the administration=E2=80=99s most abusive measures. But judges =E2= =80=94> themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and > = even> arrest =E2=80=94 cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal=
    opposition is essential.>> American civil society has the financial and o=
    rganizational > muscle to> resist Mr. Trump=E2=80=99s authoritarian offensi= ve.>> But civil society must act collectively. Chief executives, law > firm=
    universities, media outlets and Democratic politicians, as well > as> m=
    ore traditional Republicans, have a common interest in > preserving our> co= nstitutional democracy. When organizations work together and > commit> to a=
    collective defense of democratic principles, they share the > costs> of de= fiance. The government cannot attack everyone all at once.>> So far, the mo=
    st energetic opposition has come not from civic > leaders> but from everyda=
    y citizens, showing up at congressional town > hall> meetings or participat= ing in Hands Off rallies across the > country. Our> leaders must follow the=
    ir example.>> There are signs of an awakening. Harvard has refused to > acq= uiesce to> administration demands that would undermine academic freedom,> M= icrosoft dropped a law firm that settled with the > administration and> hir=
    ed one that defied it, and a new law firm based in > Washington,> D.C., ann= ounced plans to represent those wrongfully targeted by > the> government. W= hen the most influential members of civil society > fight> back, it provide=
    s political cover for others. It also galvanizes> ordinary citizens to join=
    the fight.>> America=E2=80=99s slide into authoritarianism is reversible. = But no one > has> ever defeated autocracy from the sidelines.>> https://www= .nytimes.com/2025/05/08/opinion/trump-authoritarianism-democracy.html>> Sli= ghtly shortened. Read the original, if you must.On the bright side, Trump i=
    s also very old, probably too old to bring about his full authoritarian vis= ion. And, he's really been slipping badly of late, both physically and cog= nitively. My question is whether Republicans can maintain their pace of ch= ange without Trump? Or is he holding it all together? I think the latter.=
    My impression is that J.D. Vance isn't all that compelling to MAGA. His au= thenticity was fatally tarnished, I think, during the campaign. And he'd l= ikely have to spend the rest of the term fighting internal power struggles.=
    I could see a Republican "civil war" between more conventional Republicans=
    and the newer spend-thrift fascist types. What Republican voice could uni=
    fy the party AND successfully realize Trump's authoritarian vision?



    What's so wrong with fascism if people are happier with government doing st= uff which makes people happy?


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    What's so wrong with fascism if people are happier with
    government doing stuff which makes people happy?

    That's a big IF!
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    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:>>> What's so wrong with fascism if people are happier with > government doing stuff which makes people happy?That's a big IF!



    Don't you find Jewish hypocrisy in this article hilarious? Or you don't call out Jewish hypocrisy, like you, a hypocrite buster, would normally do to others?
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Tue Aug 26 08:55:25 2025
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    On 8/26/25 1:32 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:> How will Americans know when we have lost our democracy?>> Authoritarianism is harder to recognize than it used to be. Most> 21st-century autocrats are elected. Rather than violently > suppress> opposition like Castro or Pinochet, todayrCOs autocrats convert > public> institutions into political weapons, using law enforcement, tax > and> regulatory agencies to punish opponents and bully the media and > civil> society onto the sidelines. We call this competitive > authoritarianism> rCo a system in which parties compete in elections but the > systematic> abuse of an incumbentrCOs power tilts the playing field against > the> opposition. It is how autocrats rule in contemporary Hungary, > India,> Serbia and Turkey and how Hugo Ch|ivez ruled in Venezuela.>> The descent into competitive authoritarianism doesnrCOt always set > off> alarms. Because governments attack their rivals through > nominally> legal means like defamation suits, tax audits and politically > targeted> investigations, citizens are often slow to realize they are > succumbing> to authoritarian rule.>> How, then, can we tell whether America has crossed the line into> authoritarianism? We propose a simple metric: the cost of > opposing the> government. In democracies, citizens are not punished for > peacefully> opposing those in power. They need not worry about publishing > critical> opinions, supporting opposition candidates or engaging in > peaceful> protest because they know they will not suffer retribution from > the> government. In fact, the idea of legitimate opposition rCo that > all> citizens have a right to criticize, organize opposition to and > seek to> remove the government through elections rCo is a foundational > principle> of democracy.>> Under authoritarianism, by contrast, opposition comes with a > price.>> When citizens must think twice about criticizing or opposing the> government because they could credibly face government > retribution,> they no longer live in a full democracy.>> By that measure, America has crossed the line into competitive> authoritarianism. The Trump administrationrCOs weaponization of> government agencies and flurry of punitive actions against > critics has> raised the cost of opposition for a wide range of Americans.>> The Trump administration has taken (or credibly threatened) > punitive> action against a strikingly large number of individuals and> organizations that it considers its opponents.>> It has, for example, selectively deployed law enforcement > agencies> against critics. President Trump directed the Department of > Justice to> open investigations into Christopher Krebs (who as the head of > the> Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency publicly > contradicted> Mr. TrumprCOs false claims of election fraud in 2020) and Miles > Taylor> (who, when he was a Department of Homeland Security official,> anonymously wrote an opinion piece criticizing the president in> 2018). The administration has also opened a criminal > investigation> into Letitia James, the attorney general of New York, who filed > a> lawsuit against Mr. Trump in 2022.>> The administration has targeted major law firms for > retribution. It> effectively prohibited the federal government from hiring > Perkins> Coie; Paul, Weiss; and other leading law firms it perceived as> friendly to the Democratic Party. It also threatened to cancel > their> clientsrCO government contracts and suspended their employeesrCO > security> clearances, preventing them from working on many cases related > to the> government.>> Donors to the Democratic Party and other progressive causes also > face> political retribution. In April, Mr. Trump directed the attorney> general to investigate the fund-raising practices of ActBlue, > the> Democratic PartyrCOs main donor platform, in an apparent effort to> weaken his rivalsrCO fund-raising infrastructure. Major Democratic> donors now fear retribution in the form of tax and other> investigations. Some have hired additional legal counsel to > prepare> for tax audits, congressional investigations or lawsuits. Others > have> moved assets abroad.>> Like many autocratic governments, the Trump administration has> targeted the media. Mr. Trump has sued ABC News, CBS News, Meta, > Simon> & Schuster and The Des Moines Register. The lawsuits appear to > have> weak legal bases, but because media outlets like ABC and CBS are > owned> by conglomerates with other interests affected by federal > government> decisions, a prolonged legal battle against a sitting president > could> be costly.>> At the same time, the administration has politicized the Federal> Communications Commission and deployed it against independent> media. It opened an investigation of fund-raising practices by > PBS and> NPR, potentially as a prelude to funding cuts. It also > reinstated> complaints against ABC, CBS and NBC for anti-Trump bias while > opting> not to reinstate a complaint against Fox News for promoting lies > about> the 2020 election.>> Remarkably, these attacks against opponents and the media have> occurred with even greater speed and force than equivalent > actions> taken by elected autocrats in Hungary, India, Turkey or > Venezuela> during their first years in office.>> Mr. Trump has also followed other autocrats in assaulting > universities.>> The Department of Education opened investigations into at least > 52> universities for their participation in diversity, equity and> inclusion programs, and it has placed some 60 universities under> investigation for antisemitism, threatening them with severe> penalties. The administration illegally suspended hundreds of > millions> of dollars in approved funding to leading schools such as Brown,> Columbia, Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania. It has > frozen> $2.2 billion in government grants to Harvard, asked the > I.R.S. to> revoke the universityrCOs tax-exempt status and threatened to > revoke its> eligibility to host foreign students.>> Finally, Republican politicians face threats of violence if they> oppose Mr. Trump. Fear of violence from his supporters > reportedly> dissuaded some Republican lawmakers from voting for his > impeachment> and conviction after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack. Republican > senators> were also threatened during confirmation hearings in early> 2025. Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, > reported that> the F.B.I. warned him of rCLcredible death threatsrCY while he was> considering opposing Pete HegsethrCOs nomination as secretary of> defense.>> For many American citizens and organizations, then, the cost of> opposition has risen markedly. Although these costs are not as > high as> in dictatorships like Russia rCo where critics are routinely > imprisoned,> exiled or killed rCo America has, with stunning speed, descended > into a> world in which opponents of the government fear criminal> investigations, lawsuits, tax audits and other punitive measures > and> even Republican politicians are, as one former Trump > administration> official put it, rCLscaredrCY out of their minds rCLabout death > threats.rCY>> This is not the first time that critics of the U.S. government > have> been harassed, threatened or punished: Dissidents were targeted > during> the Red Scares of 1919 and rCO20 and the McCarthy era, the> F.B.I. harassed civil rights leaders and left-leaning activists > for> decades, and the Nixon administration attempted to use the > I.R.S. and> other agencies to attack his rivals. These measures were clearly> undemocratic, but they were more limited in scope than those > occurring> today. And Mr. NixonrCOs efforts to politicize the government > triggered> his resignation, in part, and a set of reforms that helped > curtail> such abuse after 1974.>> The administrationrCOs authoritarian offensive has had a clear> impact. It has changed how Americans behave, forcing them to > think> twice about engaging in what should be constitutionally > protected> opposition. Consequently, many of the politicians and societal> organizations that should serve as watchdogs and checks on the> executive are silencing themselves or retreating to the > sidelines.>> For example, fear of retribution has had a chilling effect on> donations to Democrats and progressive civic organizations, > forcing> several of them to scale back operations and lay off > employees. In the> wake of Mr. TrumprCOs attacks on leading law firms, opponents of > the> administration are struggling to find legal representation, as> deep-pocketed and reputable firms that once readily engaged in > legal> battles with the government are lying low to avoid his > wrath. Columbia> University ceded to the administrationrCOs extortionary demands > for> greater restrictions on student expression.>> There are troubling signs of media self-censorship.>> And crucially, Republican lawmakers have abdicated their role as> checks on executive power. As Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican > of> Alaska, put it, rCLWe are all afraid. ItrCOs quite a statement. But > we are> in a time and a place where I certainly have not been here > before. And> IrCOll tell you, IrCOm oftentimes very anxious myself about using my> voice, because retaliation is real. And thatrCOs not right.rCY>> Americans are living under a new regime. The question now is > whether> we will allow it to take root.>> So far, American societyrCOs response to this authoritarian > offensive> has been underwhelming rCo alarmingly so.>> Civil society leaders seek to protect their organizations from> government attacks: Chief executives need to protect > shareholders and> future business opportunities, media owners must avoid costly> defamation suits and adverse regulatory rulings, and university> presidents seek to avoid devastating funding cuts. For any > individual> leader, then, the price of defiance can often appear unbearably > steep.>> Strategies of self-preservation have led too many civil society> leaders to retreat into silence or acquiesce to authoritarian> bullying. Small acts of acquiescence, framed as necessary > defensive> measures, feel like the only reasonable course. But this is the > fatal> logic of appeasement: the belief that quietly yielding in small,> seemingly temporary ways will mitigate long-term harm.>> Appeasement, as Churchill warned, is like feeding a crocodile > and> hoping to be the last one eaten.>> The costs of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the > descent> into authoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have> successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in recent years in> Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.>> AmericarCOs courts remain independent and will almost certainly > block> some of the administrationrCOs most abusive measures. But judges rCo> themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and > even> arrest rCo cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal> opposition is essential.>> American civil society has the financial and organizational > muscle to> resist Mr. TrumprCOs authoritarian offensive.>> The costs of opposition are surmountable. And importantly, the > descent> into authoritarianism is reversible. Pro-democracy forces have> successfully resisted or reversed backsliding in recent years in> Brazil, Poland, Slovakia, South Korea and elsewhere.>> AmericarCOs courts remain independent and will almost certainly > block> some of the administrationrCOs most abusive measures. But judges rCo> themselves targets of violent threats, government harassment and > even> arrest rCo cannot save democracy on their own. Broader societal> opposition is essential.>> American civil society has the financial and organizational > muscle to> resist Mr. TrumprCOs authoritarian offensive.>> But civil society must act collectively. Chief executives, law > firms,> universities, media outlets and Democratic politicians, as well > as> more traditional Republicans, have a common interest in > preserving our> constitutional democracy. When organizations work together and > commit> to a collective defense of democratic principles, they share the > costs> of defiance. The government cannot attack everyone all at once.>> So far, the most energetic opposition has come not from civic > leaders> but from everyday citizens, showing up at congressional town > hall> meetings or participating in Hands Off rallies across the > country. Our> leaders must follow their example.>> There are signs of an awakening. Harvard has refused to > acquiesce to> administration demands that would undermine academic freedom,> Microsoft dropped a law firm that settled with the > administration and> hired one that defied it, and a new law firm based in > Washington,> D.C., announced plans to represent those wrongfully targeted by > the> government. When the most influential members of civil society > fight> back, it provides political cover for others. It also galvanizes> ordinary citizens to join the fight.>> AmericarCOs slide into authoritarianism is reversible. But no one > has> ever defeated autocracy from the sidelines.>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/opinion/trump-authoritarianism-democracy.html>> Slightly shortened. Read the original, if you must.On the bright side, Trump is also very old, probably too old to bring about his full authoritarian vision. And, he's really been slipping badly of late, both physically and cognitively. My question is whether Republicans can maintain their pace of change without Trump? Or is he holding it all together? I think the latter.My impression is that J.D. Vance isn't all that compelling to MAGA. His authenticity was fatally tarnished, I think, during the campaign. And he'd likely have to spend the rest of the term fighting internal power struggles. I could see a Republican "civil war" between more conventional Republicans and the newer spend-thrift fascist types. What Republican voice could unify the party AND successfully realize Trump's authoritarian vision?



    What's so wrong with fascism if people are happier with government doing stuff which makes people happy?



    Nothing intrinsically, so far as I can see. It appears to be a linear descendant of the chief/priest form of governance. It is not possible to
    have a multi-cultural fascist state that is even semi-stable, though.
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  • From jdeluise@jdeluise@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Tue Aug 26 18:12:11 2025
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    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:>>> What's so wrong
    with fascism if people are happier with > government doing
    stuff which makes people happy?That's a big IF!



    Don't you find Jewish hypocrisy in this article hilarious? Or
    you don't call out Jewish hypocrisy, like you, a hypocrite
    buster, would normally do to others?

    Sounds like you need a Gavin bible.
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