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  • Why do we (and TV broadcasters) say... (when a batter grounds out) [... and there's 2 outs

    From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Fri Jul 4 17:30:30 2025
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    Why do we (and TV broadcasters) say....

    (when a batter grounds out)

    [... and there's 2 outs]


    TV broadcasters would almost never say

    [... and there're 2 outs]

    while some may say

    [... and there're now 2 outs]
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  • From Tilde@invalide@invalid.invalid to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Fri Jul 4 22:48:35 2025
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    HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    Why do we (and TV broadcasters) say....

    (when a batter grounds out)

    [... and there's 2 outs]

    Short for "there is", it seems incorrect here because
    "2 outs" is not a single thing. However, in English
    by English speakers, it's simply easier to say.

    TV broadcasters would almost never say

    [... and there're 2 outs]

    while some may say

    [... and there're now 2 outs]


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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat Jul 5 07:52:53 2025
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    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 17:30:30 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    Why do we (and TV broadcasters) say....

    (when a batter grounds out)

    [... and there's 2 outs]

    I guess they are treating "2 outs" as a single conditional-state (a gate)
    to allow double play. Not that I know anything about baseball...
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    David Entwistle
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