• Practice Cipher...

    From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Fri Aug 15 10:39:14 2025
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    5827b072cc2p8190772g6710c83f581f2v1v3w1l758164mb197z19353f34906d581658191m02626gm375f91q4165ly471dl1551970910772g61d58191m02626g64mb197f2v1536261.0ll7p0c1709191m3v1d.
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    David Entwistle

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  • From Richard Heathfield@rjh@cpax.org.uk to rec.puzzles on Fri Aug 15 12:36:46 2025
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    On 15/08/2025 10:39, David Entwistle wrote:
    5827b072cc2p8190772g6710c83f581f2v1v3w1l758164mb197z19353f34906d581658191m02626gm375f91q4165ly471dl1551970910772g61d58191m02626g64mb197f2v1536261.0ll7p0c1709191m3v1d.

    $ rhhd otp3.key
    61 57 12 55 07 1C 17 5D 11 43 5C 1F 4C 11 4D 5F
    17 55 57 4A 16 43 59 51 17 18 5A 15 15 4C 59 03
    12 07 44 13 40 03 58 03 59 0F 32 66 5E 51 19 0A
    54 4B 17 5D 45 50 40 15 5D 09 51 58 5C 42 16 0D
    5B 18 45 5E 50 18 5C 50 5F 09 10 46 59 12 45 12
    0B 55 52 47 6C 6D 59 14 14 42 5A 5C 02 1E 47 17
    50 0A 08 11 54 47 43 56 40 43 19 5E 56 17 58 47
    13 44 50 03 50 57 44 4A 11 0B 5F 40 42 47 58 02
    3C 7B 1F 42 45 56 17 12 53 1D 54 15 52 44 5F 45
    11 4F 57 0D 05 59 03 44 43 50 17 43 5C 50 19 5E
    0B 13 02 43 0B 5B 42 66

    $ otp otp3.cip otp3.key otp3.out

    $ cat otp3.out
    To be, or not to be- that is the question:
    Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
    Or to take arms against a sea of troublEverybody thinks one-time
    pads are impossible to crack, but it turns out that they're
    really quite easy. All you need is the right key.
    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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  • From James Dow Allen@user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Sat Aug 16 06:34:56 2025
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    5827b072cc2p8190772g6710c83f581f2v1v3w1l758164mb197z19353f34906d581658191m02626gm375f91q4165ly471dl1551970910772g61d58191m02626g64mb197f2v1536261.0ll7p0c1709191m3v1d.


    2g3525


    Cheers,
    James
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat Aug 16 15:39:20 2025
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    On 16/08/2025 07:34, James Dow Allen wrote:

    2g3525

    Well done.
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  • From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Sun Aug 17 05:30:23 2025
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    5827b072cc2p8190772g6710c83f581f2v1v3w1l758164mb197z19353f34906d581658191m02626gm375f91q4165ly471dl1551970910772g61d58191m02626g64mb197f2v1536261.0ll7p0c1709191m3v1d.


    i dont get it....

    and AI can't crack it either.
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sun Aug 17 08:06:47 2025
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    On 17/08/2025 06:30, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
    5827b072cc2p8190772g6710c83f581f2v1v3w1l758164mb197z19353f34906d581658191m02626gm375f91q4165ly471dl1551970910772g61d58191m02626g64mb197f2v1536261.0ll7p0c1709191m3v1d.

    i dont get it....

    Trying is a big step. Well done for trying.

    If you have a close look at the cipher, using a pencil and paper, text
    editor, or other method, you'll see there are 166 characters formed from
    a mixture of numerical-digits, lower-case letters and a couple of
    punctuation marks. There are no upper-case letters and no spaces.

    If you count the occurrences of digits and characters, you'll find all numerical digits 0 - 9 are well represented, but only 14 letter
    characters. None of the letters most common in the English language are represented. If you know that 'E' is generally the most common letter in English, that will help.

    You may note that the sequence '581' occurs five times. If you can think
    of a common three letter word, or letter sequence, you could try
    substituting the letters of that word for the digits of '581' and see
    where that takes you.

    Details:

    Length is 166 characters.

    Character count:
    0: 11
    1: 27
    2: 12
    3: 8
    4: 5
    5: 12
    6: 13
    7: 15
    8: 8
    9: 12
    a: 0
    b: 3
    c: 4
    d: 4
    e: 0
    f: 5
    g: 4
    h: 0
    i: 0
    j: 0
    k: 0
    l: 5
    m: 6
    n: 0
    o: 0
    p: 2
    q: 1
    r: 0
    s: 0
    t: 0
    u: 0
    v: 4
    w: 1
    x: 0
    y: 1
    z: 1



    and AI can't crack it either.

    Good. Or maybe it can and just won't tell you the answer.
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    David Entwistle
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  • From Richard Heathfield@rjh@cpax.org.uk to rec.puzzles on Sun Aug 17 08:33:12 2025
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    On 15/08/2025 12:36, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 15/08/2025 10:39, David Entwistle wrote:
    5827b072cc2p8190772g6710c83f581f2v1v3w1l758164mb197z19353f34906d581658191m02626gm375f91q4165ly471dl1551970910772g61d58191m02626g64mb197f2v1536261.0ll7p0c1709191m3v1d.

    $ rhhd otp3.key
    61 57 12 55 07 1C 17 5D 11 43 5C 1F 4C 11 4D 5F
    17 55 57 4A 16 43 59 51 17 18 5A 15 15 4C 59 03
    12 07 44 13 40 03 58 03 59 0F 32 66 5E 51 19 0A
    54 4B 17 5D 45 50 40 15 5D 09 51 58 5C 42 16 0D
    5B 18 45 5E 50 18 5C 50 5F 09 10 46 59 12 45 12
    0B 55 52 47 6C 6D 59 14 14 42 5A 5C 02 1E 47 17
    50 0A 08 11 54 47 43 56 40 43 19 5E 56 17 58 47
    13 44 50 03 50 57 44 4A 11 0B 5F 40 42 47 58 02
    3C 7B 1F 42 45 56 17 12 53 1D 54 15 52 44 5F 45
    11 4F 57 0D 05 59 03 44 43 50 17 43 5C 50 19 5E
    0B 13 02 43 0B 5B 42 66

    $ otp otp3.cip otp3.key otp3.out

    $ cat otp3.out
    To be, or not to be- that is the question:
    Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
    Or to take arms against a sea of troublEverybody thinks one-time
    pads are impossible to crack, but it turns out that they're
    really quite easy. All you need is the right key.


    Of course, it isn't /necessarily/ a one-time pad. It might be a
    half-time pad:

    TIBSCIHRSINECOTEIEOESHNMESEOOORNTETEEANNMSFEUNLUELTESRASGETEEANNNMESIEOIEALPCSRRMVD
    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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