• The Square Root of Wonderful

    From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Tue Aug 12 10:23:16 2025
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    From Martin Gardner's book 'Sphere Packing, Lewis Carroll, and Reversi'.

    The Square Root of Wonderful was the name of a recent play on Broadway.
    If each letter in WONDERFUL stands for a different digit (zero excluded)
    and if OODDF, using the same code, represents the square root, then what
    is the square root of wonderful?

    Of this problem Gardner says (paraphrased by me, as the original
    referred to two problems): "This problem seems to call for a digital
    computer so that hundreds of combinations of digits can be tested in a reasonable length of time. However, if approached properly and with the
    aid of a clever dodge or two, the problem can be solved with very little pencil and paper work".

    Feel free to say which method you employed.
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  • From James Dow Allen@user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Tue Aug 12 11:22:47 2025
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    From Martin Gardner's book 'Sphere Packing, Lewis Carroll, and Reversi'.

    The Square Root of Wonderful was the name of a recent play on Broadway.
    If each letter in WONDERFUL stands for a different digit (zero excluded)
    and if OODDF, using the same code, represents the square root, then what
    is the square root of wonderful?
    . . .
    Feel free to say which method you employed.

    I solved it by hand. OO+ x OO+ = WOx+ has only one solution, and there
    are then only two choices for D. The fact that FxF rea F and FxF rea xF reduces us to only four cases, which I checked individually.

    Cheers,
    James
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.puzzles on Thu Sep 18 16:40:31 2025
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    James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:
    From Martin Gardner's book 'Sphere Packing, Lewis Carroll, and Reversi'.

    The Square Root of Wonderful was the name of a recent play on Broadway.
    If each letter in WONDERFUL stands for a different digit (zero excluded)
    and if OODDF, using the same code, represents the square root, then what
    is the square root of wonderful?
    . . .
    Feel free to say which method you employed.

    I solved it by hand. OO+ x OO+ = WOx+ has only one solution, and there
    are then only two choices for D. The fact that FxF rea F and FxF rea xF reduces us to only four cases, which I checked individually.

    Pretty similar, but in my head I only managed to restrict it to five cases:

    phil@dovespaz:/tmp$ for i in 3 4 7 9; do echo $i $(((22880+$i)**2)); done | grep ^.....8
    7 523814769

    phil@dovespaz:/tmp$ for i in 4; do echo $i $(((22990+$i)**2)); done | grep ^.....9

    Which one was I failing to reject?

    ObPuzzle:
    Solve whichever one of these is verbally more appealing (they're the
    same puzzle):
    ARCHDUKES = DUDES^2
    INCUBATES = BABES^2
    And there's plenty more where that came from...

    Phil
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to rec.puzzles on Thu Sep 18 14:05:32 2025
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    In article <87plbnswts.fsf@asdf.ee>, Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:

    If each letter in WONDERFUL stands for a different digit (zero excluded)

    phil@dovespaz:/tmp$ for i in 3 4 7 9; do echo $i $(((22880+$i)**2));
    done | grep ^.....8

    If the digits of WONDERFUL are all different, and none of them zero,
    they add up to 45 so it and its square root must be multiples of 3.

    -- Richard
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.puzzles on Fri Sep 19 00:16:09 2025
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    richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) writes:
    In article <87plbnswts.fsf@asdf.ee>, Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    If each letter in WONDERFUL stands for a different digit (zero excluded)

    phil@dovespaz:/tmp$ for i in 3 4 7 9; do echo $i $(((22880+$i)**2));
    done | grep ^.....8

    If the digits of WONDERFUL are all different, and none of them zero,
    they add up to 45 so it and its square root must be multiples of 3.

    Very smart! So only 2 cases needed full checking, both for the D=8 case,
    and none for the D=9 case!

    Cheers,
    Phil
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  • From Ammammata@ammammata@tiscali.it to rec.puzzles on Fri Sep 19 10:24:27 2025
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    It happens that David Entwistle formulated :
    From Martin Gardner's book 'Sphere Packing, Lewis Carroll, and Reversi'.

    The Square Root of Wonderful was the name of a recent play on Broadway. If each letter in WONDERFUL stands for a different digit (zero excluded) and if OODDF, using the same code, represents the square root, then what is the square root of wonderful?

    I remember several of these games on the magazine "Sapere" (Knowledge), published in Italy in the 50-60 of past millennium, collected by my
    father.
    Unfortunately he dismissed all the boxes where he kept them for fifty
    years, including several publications of "Selection from Reader's
    Digest"... :'(

    what a pity... if only he told me about this, I have enough room at
    home to preserve those publications.
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Fri Sep 19 16:24:02 2025
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    On 19/09/2025 09:24, Ammammata wrote:
    I remember several of these games on the magazine "Sapere" (Knowledge), published in Italy in the 50-60 of past millennium, collected by my father. Unfortunately he dismissed all the boxes where he kept them for fifty
    years, including several publications of "Selection from Reader's
    Digest"... :'(

    what a pity... if only he told me about this, I have enough room at home
    to preserve those publications.

    That is a pity. There are some copies of this publication available on-line.

    https://archive.org/details/Sapere

    I'll post a question from Issue 64 which concentrates on the work of
    Marconi.
    --
    David Entwistle
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