• Well There It Is

    From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Wed Aug 20 16:03:14 2025
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    In the same vein as You only have to think about it...

    I have a small rod bender I use in a bench vise for making core pins for
    some stock mold designs I sell regularly. If I put just under half
    circle of bend on one end with a particular bending its perfect to grab
    with a gloved forefinger to twist and pull out of the mold. I use it
    for 3/32 to 1/4 inch pull pins. For larger pins I have to use a heavier bender (I should make a press brake die for this) or more often weld on
    a t-handle.

    After all the "improvements" I've made to create a stock prep area
    outside the bender was misplaced. I was sure it was on my welding
    table, but everything that was on, in, and under the bench I moved out
    back to become the stock feed table for the chop saw was also ont he
    welding table. It definitely suffers from horizontal surface disease at
    the moment. I couldn't find the bender. I could make one, but they are cheap. Even McMaster Carr has benders for this sort of job cheap. I
    know I just ordered one. When I walked back in the shop to take one
    more look the bender I already have was right there and the end of the
    welding table.

    Well, I guess now I am going to have two benders. Lots of other tools I
    have two of because when I need them I need them. Some three or four or
    eight or nine. McMaster would take it back I am sure, and if I had
    emailed them right away I'm sure I could have canceled it before it
    shipped, but I don't mind having two, and the McMaster bender claims it
    will handle larger stock.

    McMaster Bender I Ordered:
    https://www.mcmaster.com/2460a11/

    Like I said, pretty cheap.

    Here is one like the one I already have:
    https://tinyurl.com/ImportBender

    Not sure where all the dies are. I only use two of them.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Wed Aug 20 21:40:27 2025
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    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:1085k7h$juq1$1@dont-email.me...

    In the same vein as You only have to think about it...
    ...
    When I walked back in the shop to take one
    more look the bender I already have was right there and the end of the
    welding table.
    -----------------------------------

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim%27s_Game

    You aren't alone, the game is practice at observation and remembering,
    keeping situational awareness instead of daydreaming. I need and practice it at flea markets, ham fests and militaria shows to identify the things I want when they are incomplete, half covered, repainted etc.

    My memory and observational abilities were maxed out last weekend at a tank driving demonstration at this museum.
    https://www.americanheritagemuseum.org/?
    The large main hall is crammed full of WW2 tanks, guns and aircraft, sensory overload for this history buff.

    Their machine shop was also historically authentic, a vintage South Bend
    lathe etc, apparently not for show but because CNC isn't much use to copy or refurbish worn originals that had been made on German and Russian manual machine tools. I've read that the British and Europeans expected to have to hand-fit at final assembly, which caused us problems with their loose machining tolerances when we took up mass production of their designs during WW2.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Wed Aug 20 22:02:32 2025
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    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:1085k7h$juq1$1@dont-email.me...

    Here is one like the one I already have:
    https://tinyurl.com/ImportBender
    Not sure where all the dies are. I only use two of them.
    Bob La Londe
    -----------------------------------

    I made tubing dies for mine. A half round groove is easily milled by
    rotating the die blank against an end mill.

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Aug 22 12:51:25 2025
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    On 8/20/2025 6:40 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:1085k7h$juq1$1@dont-email.me...

    In the same vein as You only have to think about it...
    ...
    When I walked back-a in the shop to take one
    more look the bender I already have was right there and the end of the welding table.
    -----------------------------------

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim%27s_Game

    You aren't alone, the game is practice at observation and remembering, keeping situational awareness instead of daydreaming. I need and
    practice it at flea markets, ham fests and militaria shows to identify
    the things I want when they are incomplete, half covered, repainted etc.

    My memory and observational abilities were maxed out last weekend at a
    tank driving demonstration at this museum. https://www.americanheritagemuseum.org/?
    The large main hall is crammed full of WW2 tanks, guns and aircraft,
    sensory overload for this history buff.

    Their machine shop was also historically authentic, a vintage South Bend lathe etc, apparently not for show but because CNC isn't much use to
    copy or refurbish worn originals that had been made on German and
    Russian manual machine tools. I've read that the British and Europeans expected to have to hand-fit at final assembly, which caused us problems with their loose machining tolerances when we took up mass production of their designs during WW2.


    Usually I can find things by using a variation of the Silva Mind Control method. It just takes a few minutes, but sometimes I begrudge those few minutes of not doing anything. I don't use it often enough to be able
    to trigger the waking mental state to do that almost instantly like he
    claimed was possible. Interesting book. I learned the method in my
    teens when I read his book. The first half of his book was quite good,
    but in the second half of his book when he was bragging about astral projection and psychic healing he totally lost me. Fortunately I
    learned the meditation, waking alpha state, etc before I red the second
    half of the book. Of course I have met people who claimed they had
    mastered astral projection, but I have met people who claimed the earth
    was flat.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Aug 22 13:16:35 2025
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    On 8/20/2025 4:03 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    In the same vein as You only have to think about it...

    I have a small rod bender I use in a bench vise for making core pins for some stock mold designs I sell regularly.-a If I put just under half
    circle of bend on one end with a particular bending its perfect to grab
    with a gloved forefinger to twist and pull out of the mold.-a I use it
    for 3/32 to 1/4 inch pull pins.-a For larger pins I have to use a heavier bender (I should make a press brake die for this) or more often weld on
    a t-handle.

    After all the "improvements" I've made to create a stock prep area
    outside the bender was misplaced.-a I was sure it was on my welding
    table, but everything that was on, in, and under the bench I moved out
    back to become the stock feed table for the chop saw was also ont he
    welding table.-a It definitely suffers from horizontal surface disease at the moment.-a I couldn't find the bender.-a I could make one, but they are cheap.-a Even McMaster Carr has benders for this sort of job cheap.-a I
    know I just ordered one.-a When I walked back-a in the shop to take one
    more look the bender I already have was right there and the end of the welding table.

    Well, I guess now I am going to have two benders.-a Lots of other tools I have two of because when I need them I need them.-a Some three or four or eight or nine.-a McMaster would take it back I am sure, and if I had
    emailed them right away I'm sure I could have canceled it before it
    shipped, but I don't mind having two, and the McMaster bender claims it
    will handle larger stock.

    McMaster Bender I Ordered:
    https://www.mcmaster.com/2460a11/

    Like I said, pretty cheap.

    Here is one like the one I already have:
    https://tinyurl.com/ImportBender

    Not sure where all the dies are.-a I only use two of them.




    I headed out yesterday afternoon to go fishing, but just before I left
    the McMaster metal bender arrived. The box was quite a bit bigger than
    I expected. When the UPS driver handed it to me I could feel it wasn't
    just a small part in a big box, and I commented, "Its bigger than I
    expected."

    Without missing a beat my driver said, "That's what she said," and I
    quipped back, "I'm going to have to report you to HR for that one."

    The look of horror that crossed his face at that moment was amusing, but
    I quickly let him know I was just busting his chops. I hope he doesn't
    start delivering my packages down the street.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Aug 24 07:11:51 2025
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    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:108dsdd$2g7cb$1@dont-email.me...

    On 8/23/2025 5:57 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

    The difference is they are also skilled at something productive.

    I am always amazed at how celebrities can have such and outsized impact
    on people's opinions. They are no better than politicians. Skilled
    liars.
    Bob La Londe

    ----------------------------------

    Entertainers fail at basic life skills like marriage and children yet "know" how the rest of us schmucks should live. They become dangerous if handed a hammer or screwdriver, tools are weapons. I've noticed that among city
    people too. I've heard a hammer called a New York screwdriver.

    At a Massachusetts job I was briefly cut off from the Internet for inquiring during lunch about parts for a chainsaw, a terror weapon to them.

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  • From Mike Spencer@mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Aug 25 02:16:35 2025
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    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    Entertainers fail at basic life skills like marriage and children
    yet "know" how the rest of us schmucks should live. They become
    dangerous if handed a hammer or screwdriver, tools are weapons. I've
    noticed that among city people too. I've heard a hammer called a New
    York screwdriver.

    At a Massachusetts job I was briefly cut off from the Internet for
    inquiring during lunch about parts for a chainsaw, a terror weapon
    to them.

    City people in general. My wife was one stopped by a Mountie when
    driving at night. I don't know if it made any difference that the
    Mountie was a woman but my wife waited for a prolonged time in the
    car. Prolonged because the Mountie had called in for backup. Because
    she spotted a machete on the back seat of our car.

    Very rural area. An axe, chainsaw, peavy, machete -- any woodsman's
    tool would be unremarkable, even in a little burb beater car. Perhaps
    not in Toronto or Montreal but in rural Nova Scotia, yes.

    Well, they move Mounties' assigments around to give them varied
    experience. This one had a lesson in Being In The Back Country. :-)
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    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Aug 25 07:36:04 2025
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    "Mike Spencer" wrote in message
    news:87wm6skmks.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere...

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
    ...
    At a Massachusetts job I was briefly cut off from the Internet for
    inquiring during lunch about parts for a chainsaw, a terror weapon
    to them.

    City people in general. My wife was one stopped by a Mountie when
    driving at night. I don't know if it made any difference that the
    Mountie was a woman but my wife waited for a prolonged time in the
    car. Prolonged because the Mountie had called in for backup. Because
    she spotted a machete on the back seat of our car.

    Very rural area. An axe, chainsaw, peavy, machete -- any woodsman's
    tool would be unremarkable, even in a little burb beater car. Perhaps
    not in Toronto or Montreal but in rural Nova Scotia, yes.

    Well, they move Mounties' assigments around to give them varied
    experience. This one had a lesson in Being In The Back Country. :-)
    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

    ----------------------------
    I'm in an area north of Boston MA where rural, suburban and urban cultures collide. Driveways may have BMWs or a pickup, 60's restoration, Harleys and
    a tractor loader. The different attitudes and experiences are visible at
    town meetings where we speak and vote on our opinions on how the town should be run, whether for the self-reliant or the co-dependent or some mutually uncomfortable compromise.

    Some friends' values and judgment (being polite here) put them nearly in the homeless category, not always for low intelligence. I've put roofs over some heads.

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Aug 25 12:23:12 2025
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    On 8/24/2025 10:16 PM, Mike Spencer wrote:
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    Entertainers fail at basic life skills like marriage and children
    yet "know" how the rest of us schmucks should live. They become
    dangerous if handed a hammer or screwdriver, tools are weapons. I've
    noticed that among city people too. I've heard a hammer called a New
    York screwdriver.

    At a Massachusetts job I was briefly cut off from the Internet for
    inquiring during lunch about parts for a chainsaw, a terror weapon
    to them.

    City people in general. My wife was one stopped by a Mountie when
    driving at night. I don't know if it made any difference that the
    Mountie was a woman but my wife waited for a prolonged time in the
    car. Prolonged because the Mountie had called in for backup. Because
    she spotted a machete on the back seat of our car.

    Very rural area. An axe, chainsaw, peavy, machete -- any woodsman's
    tool would be unremarkable, even in a little burb beater car. Perhaps
    not in Toronto or Montreal but in rural Nova Scotia, yes.

    Well, they move Mounties' assigments around to give them varied
    experience. This one had a lesson in Being In The Back Country. :-)



    One of my mail carriers pulled up with a package requiring a signature
    while I was pruning trees with a Condor parang, and with very large
    eyes, asked, "Why do you need that big knife."

    While a machete is a tool that I keep in my shop and in my boat for
    cutting brush it is very much a weapon of war. I mean actually used in organized warfare. I don't know if its still true, but when I was a kid people seemed to show more fear of knives than guns. The media has
    probably shifted that fear a little.

    I'm still deciding on what emergency gear I want to maintain in my (no
    longer new) truck. A machete may be part of that kit if I can find one
    like the OLD US Army one I bought at Popular Surplus. The Condor is not
    hard enough and way to heavy. The newer "surplus and discount store"
    machetes has a thin painful to use handle and a springy whip like blade.
    Yuck. For now a small camp axe is part of the gear bag under the
    seat, but I am thinking an upgrade to a middle weight like a boy's axe
    might be better. Even if I do add a machete.
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    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Leon Fisk@lfiskgr@gmail.invalid to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Aug 25 16:05:59 2025
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    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:23:12 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    A machete may be part of that kit if I can find one
    like the OLD US Army one I bought at Popular Surplus. The Condor is not >hard enough and way to heavy. The newer "surplus and discount store" >machetes has a thin painful to use handle and a springy whip like blade.

    I bought a Christmas Tree pruning knife many years ago. It has held up
    well enough so far. I've take 2 inch limbs off when able to get a GOOD
    swing at it. Normally I'd used the big lopers but was just carrying this
    knife while cutting back growth along sides of my trails. Blade is thin
    and flexible.

    It was a good name brand item back in the day. Handle is like the
    Zenport K888 in this search. Nice being able to get two hands on the
    handle unlike most machetes.

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=christmas+tree+knife&ref=nb_sb_noss
    --
    Leon Fisk
    Grand Rapids MI

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Aug 25 18:46:44 2025
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    "Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:108ifn7$3jhh7$1@dont-email.me...

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 12:23:12 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    A machete may be part of that kit if I can find one
    like the OLD US Army one I bought at Popular Surplus. The Condor is not
    hard enough and way to heavy. The newer "surplus and discount store" >machetes has a thin painful to use handle and a springy whip like blade.

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=christmas+tree+knife&ref=nb_sb_noss
    Leon Fisk

    ------------------------------

    I found a crosscut saw blade more useful to make structures and accessories and car mud rescue levers in the woods. I couldn't find a pocketable folding handle/sheath for a recip saw blade so I made one with an aluminum handle
    and sheath. The blade, sheath and handle have identical tapers and telescope very compactly. Sheet steel wrapped around and flattened to a snug fit on
    the blade shank thickens it to stop short in the sheath and fit the handle. The blade is held by a screw and wingnut that also serves as the finger
    guard. A less artsy one could be made from a thin aluminum rectangle folded into a U.

    I re-filed the rip teeth into crosscut, which worked well, and ground a
    knife blade edge on the back which doesn't stay sharp long when whittling.
    The teeth may have been tempered harder, though not too much to file.

    The car tool kit contains a triangular file for saw teeth and blade edges.

    EMT wrapped with cord and flattened on the blade end makes a decent handle.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue Aug 26 07:12:45 2025
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    "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:108ip51$3nalr$1@dont-email.me...

    ... I couldn't find a pocketable folding handle/sheath for a recip saw
    blade ...

    My goal was a folding wood or metal saw with the thin handle of the K55K knife. Having a bolted instead of pivoting blade allows substituting a steel cutting jigsaw blade. You're unlikely to need a saw as quickly available as
    a knife.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_K55K

    When I was designing a custom integrated circuit at the VLSI facility the workstation went down. The repairman brought a replacement power supply that wouldn't fit because its frame was too wide, and I trimmed it narrow enough with the home-made saw/knife. I used the saw to cut and notch sticks to make
    a crutch after twisting my ankle on a mountain hike. It's solved two
    problems, one very high tech and one very low.

    The hike was a Mensa event. The person who knew the location of the nearest hospital and drove me there was the head of Emergency Services at a major Boston MA hospital, but not licensed in NH. He didn't want to be associated with my primitive crutch, however the doc who saw me camped in northern
    Canada and appreciated it.

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  • From Leon Fisk@lfiskgr@gmail.invalid to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue Aug 26 17:31:54 2025
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    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:46:44 -0400
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
    I found a crosscut saw blade more useful to make structures and accessories >and car mud rescue levers in the woods. I couldn't find a pocketable folding >handle/sheath for a recip saw blade so I made one with an aluminum handle >and sheath...
    <snip>
    I've one from Stanley, Model 15-333 that Dad found somewhere a longtime
    ago. Still available it seems: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=stanley+15-333+saw&ref=nb_sb_noss
    I bought one for myself a longtime ago from Sears I think. But it
    doesn't fold. Has a small space in the handle for extra blades. One
    nice feature is locking at other angles besides straight out.
    Had it in my work toolkit, came in handy when making holes in walls for
    running cables.
    https://i.postimg.cc/Gmwg0b8S/Blade-Holder.jpg
    Your home brew would be a lot more compact for hiking and less bulky for
    tool rollsEfaiN+A
    --
    Leon Fisk
    Grand Rapids MI
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