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I like to try to mention things that are good. Not just whine about
things that aren't, but as I pointed out before it seems like the moment
I praise something it goes south.

I've used a lot of welding gloves over the years. The biggest issue is
my fault of course. I cook off the fingers. By the time I realize my
hand is getting hot the fingers are cooked into hard shrunken
caricatures of their former selves. Most welding gloves are also stiff,
and the softer "TIG" gloves cook off easier than other welding gloves.

I've been using a pair of Vulcan Defender (Harbor Freight) welding
gloves for the last year or a little better, and I've been doing more
welding in the last couple years than I have in the past. Just
yesterday I was thinking, "The gloves still haven't cooked of, and they
are much more flexible (for a welding glove) than others I have used.
While they aren't the perfect welding glove they might be the best one I
have used." I was in the process of taking them off to walk inside and
post about them here on this very newsgroup, when the lining of the
right glove came out with my hand.

No, its not quite as comical as the mental image that might conjure up
for you. The liner fingers came out of the leather fingers and part way
up the cuff of the glove. I wasn't able to just push my fingers back
into to get it situated either. I had to pull the liner most of the
rest of the way out of the glove, and one finger at a time poke a finger
into the liner to straighten it out. Then I was able to one at a time
fit my fingers into the liner and push the liner back into the glove.
The glove is saved, but its going to be a pain in the wazoo to use from
now one. I'll have to grab the finger tip of each finger and pinch the
liner in place as I extract my hand every single time I use it from now
on.

Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It
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On 8/10/2025 3:51 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

I like to try to mention things that are good.-a Not just whine about
things that aren't, but as I pointed out before it seems like the moment
I praise something it goes south.

I've used a lot of welding gloves over the years.-a The biggest issue is
my fault of course.-a I cook off the fingers.-a By the time I realize my hand is getting hot the fingers are cooked into hard shrunken
caricatures of their former selves.-a Most welding gloves are also stiff, and the softer "TIG" gloves cook off easier than other welding gloves.

I've been using a pair of Vulcan Defender (Harbor Freight) welding
gloves for the last year or a little better, and I've been doing more welding in the last couple years than I have in the past.-a Just
yesterday I was thinking, "The gloves still haven't cooked of, and they
are much more flexible (for a welding glove) than others I have used.
While they aren't the perfect welding glove they might be the best one I have used."-a I was in the process of taking them off to walk inside and post about them here on this very newsgroup, when the lining of the
right glove came out with my hand.

No, its not quite as comical as the mental image that might conjure up
for you.-a The liner fingers came out of the leather fingers and part way
up the cuff of the glove.-a I wasn't able to just push my fingers back
into to get it situated either.-a I had to pull the liner most of the
rest of the way out of the glove, and one finger at a time poke a finger into the liner to straighten it out.-a Then I was able to one at a time
fit my fingers into the liner and push the liner back into the glove.
The glove is saved, but its going to be a pain in the wazoo to use from
now one.-a I'll have to grab the finger tip of each finger and pinch the liner in place as I extract my hand every single time I use it from now on.

Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It

I've been using the HF 3 pairs for 20 bucks (might be more now)
welding gloves for several years now . They're cheap enough I don't
freak when I fry one . They work pretty well for casting aluminum and
brass too . I'm more careful with the Tillman TIG gloves .
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:107b0pa$24pam$1@dont-email.me...

I like to try to mention things that are good. Not just whine about
things that aren't, but as I pointed out before it seems like the moment
I praise something it goes south.
...
Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It
Bob La Londe
---------------------------------------

As a trained scientist I believe the laws of Physics and Chemistry
accurately describe the actions of nature, yet I've experienced quite a bit that suggests otherwise, such as the nearly to-the-minute accuracy of my biological clock for waking up and turning on TV weather forecasts. It even works to get up early for fishing trips.

This afternoon I was trading stories of the unexplained with a girl selling witchy things at a faire booth. Mine was of exploring an undeveloped area
for hunting and finding the foundation of a vanished barn. There seemed to
be a lonely youthful presence who wanted to show me around. I went (or was guided) to the boulder the kids climbed on and saw where their dirty bare
feet had worn steps, and then through woods to the far side of a patch of dense brush, nearly tripping on the rough granite step where the door to the farmhouse had been, then I realized that the brush patch was its shrubbery
and I'd found (or been directed to) the only entrance. A few hand-forged wrought iron door corner braces remained on the granite. I think I learned more but didn't find a town record of a family there for confirmation. The next time I passed through I was carrying a shotgun and felt nothing, or perhaps disappointment.

Another was of dirt-biking and exploring in a flood control area where the houses had been removed. At the end of the driveway of the only right-angled corner lot I felt the funny cold feeling. Later at a theatre group party I asked an older friend about that area, and she told me she knew the spot,
had been to a party at that house and felt the creepy chill when she went upstairs for her coat, on the bed in the room where they told her a child
had died.

When house-hunting we found a very reasonably priced older house that I checked thoroughly for repair needs. The story was that it was being sold to settle an estate, which made me think of my grandmother in a nursing home. Everything looked fine until my wife entered and immediately backed out of
an upstairs bedroom. I went in and suddenly realized that the elderly woman had fallen and slowly died of thirst on the floor there, not in a nursing home. I told the real estate lady (who must have known at least some part) that we couldn't move in until the previous owner left, and she turned pale and speechless.

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/NSA-RDP96X00790R000100010041-2.pdf
The Soviets boasted that they had developed a psychotronic machine that
could tap into whatever it is for espionage. I've been near very strong magnetic fields and most of the radio spectrum and never noticed any effect beyond what my instruments could measure, though some claim to be able to detect them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity
It's possible that dental metal might create Schottky diodes that rectify RF into physically detectable DC or audio.

The only coded messages I ever received from deep in space are ones I had previously transmitted as a test.

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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:107bksl$29fit$1@dont-email.me...

There seemed to be a lonely youthful presence who wanted to show me
around.

Perhaps even stranger, a yearling deer staring at me from behind at the club range prompted me to look around for who was watching. I unloaded the rifle, took off the ear muffs and checked the trails but saw no kids. When I
finally turned completely around the deer was behaving like a playful dog, nipping at weed stems and turning to run while watching for me to follow.
Only when I stood up did it realize what I was and run away.

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:107b0pa$24pam$1@dont-email.me...
...
The liner fingers came out of the leather fingers and part way
up the cuff of the glove. I wasn't able to just push my fingers back
into to get it situated either. I had to pull the liner most of the
rest of the way out of the glove, and one finger at a time poke a finger
into the liner to straighten it out. Then I was able to one at a time
fit my fingers into the liner and push the liner back into the glove.
The glove is saved, but its going to be a pain in the wazoo to use from
now one. I'll have to grab the finger tip of each finger and pinch the
liner in place as I extract my hand every single time I use it from now
on.

Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It
Bob La Londe
----------------------------------

If you find or make a hole in the back of hand side of the liner you could poke the finger tips through it to apply some glue to their shell side. I've had good results fixing delaminated shoe soles etc with Shoe Goo.

After use I grease the cap threads and put a piece of aluminized snack bar wrapper over the tube end to slow evaporation. When it gets thick anyway I unroll the crimped bottom and add some paint thinner. When a glue tube cap cracked I patched it enough to tighten by pressing on a washer bored on the lathe to fit. The plastic film over the spout end seals it. Sometimes petroleum jelly on the threads is enough.

A small all-polyethylene dropper bottle of acetone is also handy for maintenance, like rinsing out spray can nozzles. The droppers with rubber bulbs haven't held up as well to solvents etc.

The other day I used the acetone bottle to show a neighbor which pens of his had insoluble gel ink and are safe to write unalterable checks with. In
return for that and several easy (for me) no-tool repairs he gave me a thin dark blue sweatshirt that had come as bait with a mailed donation request. I'll use it as a cool weather work shirt that doesn't show dark car grease
or wood stove soot stains.

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On 8/10/2025 3:33 PM, Snag wrote:

On 8/10/2025 3:51 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

I like to try to mention things that are good.-a Not just whine about
things that aren't, but as I pointed out before it seems like the
moment I praise something it goes south.

I've used a lot of welding gloves over the years.-a The biggest issue
is my fault of course.-a I cook off the fingers.-a By the time I realize
my hand is getting hot the fingers are cooked into hard shrunken
caricatures of their former selves.-a Most welding gloves are also
stiff, and the softer "TIG" gloves cook off easier than other welding
gloves.

I've been using a pair of Vulcan Defender (Harbor Freight) welding
gloves for the last year or a little better, and I've been doing more
welding in the last couple years than I have in the past.-a Just
yesterday I was thinking, "The gloves still haven't cooked of, and
they are much more flexible (for a welding glove) than others I have
used. While they aren't the perfect welding glove they might be the
best one I have used."-a I was in the process of taking them off to
walk inside and post about them here on this very newsgroup, when the
lining of the right glove came out with my hand.

No, its not quite as comical as the mental image that might conjure up
for you.-a The liner fingers came out of the leather fingers and part
way up the cuff of the glove.-a I wasn't able to just push my fingers
back into to get it situated either.-a I had to pull the liner most of
the rest of the way out of the glove, and one finger at a time poke a
finger into the liner to straighten it out.-a Then I was able to one at
a time fit my fingers into the liner and push the liner back into the
glove. The glove is saved, but its going to be a pain in the wazoo to
use from now one.-a I'll have to grab the finger tip of each finger and
pinch the liner in place as I extract my hand every single time I use
it from now on.

Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It

-a I've been using the HF 3 pairs for 20 bucks (might be more now)
welding gloves for several years now . They're cheap enough I don't
freak when I fry one . They work pretty well for casting aluminum and
brass too . I'm more careful with the Tillman TIG gloves .

I just looked on the website and didn't find a deal like that. I'm not
a fan of the cheap split leather welding gloves, but if they were that
cheap I might learn to live with it.

That being said, my second favorite pair of welding gloves is a long
cuff split leather Tillman. The cuff goes part way up my bicep which
means I could properly protect my arms with out changing shirts or
putting on some welding sleeves. I have two pair, and both pairs have
cooked fingers. LOL.
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CNC Molds N Stuff

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From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

On 8/11/2025 11:39 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:

On 8/10/2025 3:33 PM, Snag wrote:

On 8/10/2025 3:51 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

I like to try to mention things that are good.-a Not just whine about
things that aren't, but as I pointed out before it seems like the
moment I praise something it goes south.

I've used a lot of welding gloves over the years.-a The biggest issue
is my fault of course.-a I cook off the fingers.-a By the time I
realize my hand is getting hot the fingers are cooked into hard
shrunken caricatures of their former selves.-a Most welding gloves are
also stiff, and the softer "TIG" gloves cook off easier than other
welding gloves.

I've been using a pair of Vulcan Defender (Harbor Freight) welding
gloves for the last year or a little better, and I've been doing more
welding in the last couple years than I have in the past.-a Just
yesterday I was thinking, "The gloves still haven't cooked of, and
they are much more flexible (for a welding glove) than others I have
used. While they aren't the perfect welding glove they might be the
best one I have used."-a I was in the process of taking them off to
walk inside and post about them here on this very newsgroup, when the
lining of the right glove came out with my hand.

No, its not quite as comical as the mental image that might conjure
up for you.-a The liner fingers came out of the leather fingers and
part way up the cuff of the glove.-a I wasn't able to just push my
fingers back into to get it situated either.-a I had to pull the liner
most of the rest of the way out of the glove, and one finger at a
time poke a finger into the liner to straighten it out.-a Then I was
able to one at a time fit my fingers into the liner and push the
liner back into the glove. The glove is saved, but its going to be a
pain in the wazoo to use from now one.-a I'll have to grab the finger
tip of each finger and pinch the liner in place as I extract my hand
every single time I use it from now on.

Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It

-a-a I've been using the HF 3 pairs for 20 bucks (might be more now)
welding gloves for several years now . They're cheap enough I don't
freak when I fry one . They work pretty well for casting aluminum and
brass too . I'm more careful with the Tillman TIG gloves .

I just looked on the website and didn't find a deal like that.-a I'm not
a fan of the cheap split leather welding gloves, but if they were that
cheap I might learn to live with it.

That being said, my second favorite pair of welding gloves is a long
cuff split leather Tillman.-a The cuff goes part way up my bicep which
means I could properly protect my arms with out changing shirts or
putting on some welding sleeves.-a I have two pair, and both pairs have cooked fingers.-a LOL.

Found this right off ... on clearance in store only .

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-pair-14-inch-split-cowhide-welding-gloves-488.html
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From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

On 8/11/2025 9:52 AM, Snag wrote:

On 8/11/2025 11:39 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:

On 8/10/2025 3:33 PM, Snag wrote:

On 8/10/2025 3:51 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

I like to try to mention things that are good.-a Not just whine about >>>> things that aren't, but as I pointed out before it seems like the
moment I praise something it goes south.

I've used a lot of welding gloves over the years.-a The biggest issue >>>> is my fault of course.-a I cook off the fingers.-a By the time I
realize my hand is getting hot the fingers are cooked into hard
shrunken caricatures of their former selves.-a Most welding gloves
are also stiff, and the softer "TIG" gloves cook off easier than
other welding gloves.

I've been using a pair of Vulcan Defender (Harbor Freight) welding
gloves for the last year or a little better, and I've been doing
more welding in the last couple years than I have in the past.-a Just >>>> yesterday I was thinking, "The gloves still haven't cooked of, and
they are much more flexible (for a welding glove) than others I have
used. While they aren't the perfect welding glove they might be the
best one I have used."-a I was in the process of taking them off to
walk inside and post about them here on this very newsgroup, when
the lining of the right glove came out with my hand.

No, its not quite as comical as the mental image that might conjure
up for you.-a The liner fingers came out of the leather fingers and
part way up the cuff of the glove.-a I wasn't able to just push my
fingers back into to get it situated either.-a I had to pull the
liner most of the rest of the way out of the glove, and one finger
at a time poke a finger into the liner to straighten it out.-a Then I >>>> was able to one at a time fit my fingers into the liner and push the
liner back into the glove. The glove is saved, but its going to be a
pain in the wazoo to use from now one.-a I'll have to grab the finger >>>> tip of each finger and pinch the liner in place as I extract my hand
every single time I use it from now on.

Yes Jim, You Only Have To Think About It

-a-a I've been using the HF 3 pairs for 20 bucks (might be more now)
welding gloves for several years now . They're cheap enough I don't
freak when I fry one . They work pretty well for casting aluminum and
brass too . I'm more careful with the Tillman TIG gloves .

I just looked on the website and didn't find a deal like that.-a I'm
not a fan of the cheap split leather welding gloves, but if they were
that cheap I might learn to live with it.

That being said, my second favorite pair of welding gloves is a long
cuff split leather Tillman.-a The cuff goes part way up my bicep which
means I could properly protect my arms with out changing shirts or
putting on some welding sleeves.-a I have two pair, and both pairs have
cooked fingers.-a LOL.

-a Found this right off ... on clearance in store only .

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-pair-14-inch-split-cowhide-welding- gloves-488.html

Must be a catered result. Your link says unavailable in Yuma.

Just out of curiosity I took a look at MSC and they show some
"inexpensive" leather welding gloves for 5 bucks a pair. Limited
supply. Only 196 left. LOL.
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