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I wish vendors told the truth.
Before the order... delivers by yesterday.
After the order... ships by yesterday.
Tracking arrives... label created.-a May ship tomorrow.
I wish vendors told the truth.
Before the order... delivers by yesterday.
After the order... ships by yesterday.
Tracking arrives... label created. May ship tomorrow.
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even
from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog understood me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.
On 8/5/2025 5:47 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even
from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog
understood me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.
One of the things I really noticed with Amazon recently is blatantly >misleading or false delivery times with a twist.
I quit buying anything important from Amazon for a few years because I >ordered some important items that had an option for a faster delivery
time. I selected the faster delivery time (a couple days), and then it
was two weeks plus for shipping from out of the country. Amazon tried
to claim that was the normal delivery time and I agreed, and showed them >their listing showing the option for faster delivery time, and my
payment for the faster delivery time, and they refused to acknowledge
the screenshots from their own website. I never got a refund for the >shipping difference, and they never acknowledge that they screwed me.
Unfortunately the world has gotten to the point where sometimes you have
no choice but deal with dishonest soulless if not outright evil
corporations like Amazon, Ford, and Alphabet, or do without. You have
to choose the one that screws you over in a way you can tolerate best.
I find myself having no choice, but order some things from Amazon. I
can find them elsewhere sometimes for a lot more money and a lot more
lead time, but in business both of those things matter.
During my recent air dryer upgrade I decided to upgrade everything. >Stainless braided outer lines for all my flex lines, assorted fittings, >bigger badder pre and post filters, and ... stuff. In order to get
several pieces in any reasonable time and price I had to order it from >Amazon. My wife gets a lot of household stuff from Amazon, so of course
we have a "Prime" account. Whatever that means. I used to have a
business account, and it didn't mean anything really. Anyway, in order
to find items that would deliver next day I selected "Prime" listings
and looked for next day (or two day) items. I did not sort by price.
There were cheaper prices on Amazon, but not with next day delivery. Of >course local industrial suppliers would say, "We can get it for you,"
and online industrial suppliers were either much more expensive or much >longer lead time or both. Anyway, I would find spec items listed as
next day delivery, add them to the cart, and then look in the cart to
see they had changed it to 2-5 days delivery. At one point I added
every single spec item, checked the cart, and deleted all those that had >changed delivery times. It was the only way to find those that actually
had next day delivery instead of the BIG FAT LIE. Since no job ever
goes to plan around here I wound up doing this three different times,
and I experienced it every single time.
In my opinion Amazon has gas lighting you deliberately BAKED IN to their >software. "Oh, no. See in your check out it said you wouldn't get it
for 2-5 days." You thought you ordered next day delivery items, BECAUSE
YOU DID, but before check out they change it.
I wish vendors told the truth.
Before the order... delivers by yesterday.
After the order... ships by yesterday.
Tracking arrives... label created.-a May ship tomorrow.
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 12:39:45 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 8/5/2025 5:47 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even
from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog
understood me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.
One of the things I really noticed with Amazon recently is blatantly
misleading or false delivery times with a twist.
I quit buying anything important from Amazon for a few years because I
ordered some important items that had an option for a faster delivery
time. I selected the faster delivery time (a couple days), and then it
was two weeks plus for shipping from out of the country. Amazon tried
to claim that was the normal delivery time and I agreed, and showed them
their listing showing the option for faster delivery time, and my
payment for the faster delivery time, and they refused to acknowledge
the screenshots from their own website. I never got a refund for the
shipping difference, and they never acknowledge that they screwed me.
Unfortunately the world has gotten to the point where sometimes you have
no choice but deal with dishonest soulless if not outright evil
corporations like Amazon, Ford, and Alphabet, or do without. You have
to choose the one that screws you over in a way you can tolerate best.
I find myself having no choice, but order some things from Amazon. I
can find them elsewhere sometimes for a lot more money and a lot more
lead time, but in business both of those things matter.
During my recent air dryer upgrade I decided to upgrade everything.
Stainless braided outer lines for all my flex lines, assorted fittings,
bigger badder pre and post filters, and ... stuff. In order to get
several pieces in any reasonable time and price I had to order it from
Amazon. My wife gets a lot of household stuff from Amazon, so of course
we have a "Prime" account. Whatever that means. I used to have a
business account, and it didn't mean anything really. Anyway, in order
to find items that would deliver next day I selected "Prime" listings
and looked for next day (or two day) items. I did not sort by price.
There were cheaper prices on Amazon, but not with next day delivery. Of
course local industrial suppliers would say, "We can get it for you,"
and online industrial suppliers were either much more expensive or much
longer lead time or both. Anyway, I would find spec items listed as
next day delivery, add them to the cart, and then look in the cart to
see they had changed it to 2-5 days delivery. At one point I added
every single spec item, checked the cart, and deleted all those that had
changed delivery times. It was the only way to find those that actually
had next day delivery instead of the BIG FAT LIE. Since no job ever
goes to plan around here I wound up doing this three different times,
and I experienced it every single time.
In my opinion Amazon has gas lighting you deliberately BAKED IN to their
software. "Oh, no. See in your check out it said you wouldn't get it
for 2-5 days." You thought you ordered next day delivery items, BECAUSE
YOU DID, but before check out they change it.
You might wish to try McMaster-Carr. Their stuff is always
satisfactory, and shipping time is correctly estimated. They do not
compete on low low price.
.<https://www.mcmaster.com/>
Joe
I wish vendors told the truth.
Before the order... delivers by yesterday.
After the order... ships by yesterday.
Tracking arrives... label created.-a May ship tomorrow.
On 05/08/2025 21:08, Bob La Londe wrote:
I wish vendors told the truth.I ordered an item from Phoenix Az late last month and got a couple of
Before the order... delivers by yesterday.
After the order... ships by yesterday.
Tracking arrives... label created.-a May ship tomorrow.
'it has been shipped' notifications from DHL but it looks like it's just
we have something to collect for you. I was pleasantly surprised by the
one on Monday 4/8/2025 that showed it had been collected and left
Phoenix Az and got to Cincinnati Oh 5/8/2025 and then got to the UK and through customs and at the Midlands DHL depot by late evening 5/8/2025. Normally I would get an email from DHL with a date and delivery time
window, not this delivery, so I missed the delivery today so have rescheduled it for tomorrow so will have to hang around till it arrives. Normally when they say they need a signature it gets left anyway or next door but this time they want my signature it seems and won't settle for less. It took a bit of time to get shipped but once collected that's
about 5.5k miles in 2 days.
On 8/5/2025 5:47 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even
from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog
understood me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.
One of the things I really noticed with Amazon recently is blatantly >misleading or false delivery times with a twist.
I quit buying anything important from Amazon for a few years because I >ordered some important items that had an option for a faster delivery
time. I selected the faster delivery time (a couple days), and then it
was two weeks plus for shipping from out of the country. Amazon tried
to claim that was the normal delivery time and I agreed, and showed them >their listing showing the option for faster delivery time, and my
payment for the faster delivery time, and they refused to acknowledge
the screenshots from their own website. I never got a refund for the >shipping difference, and they never acknowledge that they screwed me.
Unfortunately the world has gotten to the point where sometimes you have
no choice but deal with dishonest soulless if not outright evil
corporations like Amazon, Ford, and Alphabet, or do without. You have
to choose the one that screws you over in a way you can tolerate best.
I find myself having no choice, but order some things from Amazon. I
can find them elsewhere sometimes for a lot more money and a lot more
lead time, but in business both of those things matter.
During my recent air dryer upgrade I decided to upgrade everything. >Stainless braided outer lines for all my flex lines, assorted fittings, >bigger badder pre and post filters, and ... stuff. In order to get
several pieces in any reasonable time and price I had to order it from >Amazon. My wife gets a lot of household stuff from Amazon, so of course
we have a "Prime" account. Whatever that means. I used to have a
business account, and it didn't mean anything really. Anyway, in order
to find items that would deliver next day I selected "Prime" listings
and looked for next day (or two day) items. I did not sort by price.
There were cheaper prices on Amazon, but not with next day delivery. Of >course local industrial suppliers would say, "We can get it for you,"
and online industrial suppliers were either much more expensive or much >longer lead time or both. Anyway, I would find spec items listed as
next day delivery, add them to the cart, and then look in the cart to
see they had changed it to 2-5 days delivery. At one point I added
every single spec item, checked the cart, and deleted all those that had >changed delivery times. It was the only way to find those that actually
had next day delivery instead of the BIG FAT LIE. Since no job ever
goes to plan around here I wound up doing this three different times,
and I experienced it every single time.
In my opinion Amazon has gas lighting you deliberately BAKED IN to their >software. "Oh, no. See in your check out it said you wouldn't get it
for 2-5 days." You thought you ordered next day delivery items, BECAUSE
YOU DID, but before check out they change it.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 12:39:45 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 8/5/2025 5:47 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even
from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog
understood me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.
One of the things I really noticed with Amazon recently is blatantly >>misleading or false delivery times with a twist.
I quit buying anything important from Amazon for a few years because I >>ordered some important items that had an option for a faster delivery >>time. I selected the faster delivery time (a couple days), and then it >>was two weeks plus for shipping from out of the country. Amazon tried
to claim that was the normal delivery time and I agreed, and showed them >>their listing showing the option for faster delivery time, and my
payment for the faster delivery time, and they refused to acknowledge
the screenshots from their own website. I never got a refund for the >>shipping difference, and they never acknowledge that they screwed me.
Unfortunately the world has gotten to the point where sometimes you have >>no choice but deal with dishonest soulless if not outright evil >>corporations like Amazon, Ford, and Alphabet, or do without. You have
to choose the one that screws you over in a way you can tolerate best.
I find myself having no choice, but order some things from Amazon. I
can find them elsewhere sometimes for a lot more money and a lot more
lead time, but in business both of those things matter.
During my recent air dryer upgrade I decided to upgrade everything. >>Stainless braided outer lines for all my flex lines, assorted fittings, >>bigger badder pre and post filters, and ... stuff. In order to get >>several pieces in any reasonable time and price I had to order it from >>Amazon. My wife gets a lot of household stuff from Amazon, so of course >>we have a "Prime" account. Whatever that means. I used to have a >>business account, and it didn't mean anything really. Anyway, in order
to find items that would deliver next day I selected "Prime" listings
and looked for next day (or two day) items. I did not sort by price. >>There were cheaper prices on Amazon, but not with next day delivery. Of >>course local industrial suppliers would say, "We can get it for you,"
and online industrial suppliers were either much more expensive or much >>longer lead time or both. Anyway, I would find spec items listed as
next day delivery, add them to the cart, and then look in the cart to
see they had changed it to 2-5 days delivery. At one point I added
every single spec item, checked the cart, and deleted all those that had >>changed delivery times. It was the only way to find those that actually >>had next day delivery instead of the BIG FAT LIE. Since no job ever
goes to plan around here I wound up doing this three different times,
and I experienced it every single time.
In my opinion Amazon has gas lighting you deliberately BAKED IN to their >>software. "Oh, no. See in your check out it said you wouldn't get it
for 2-5 days." You thought you ordered next day delivery items, BECAUSE >>YOU DID, but before check out they change it.
You might wish to try McMaster-Carr. Their stuff is always
satisfactory, and shipping time is correctly estimated. They do not
compete on low low price.
.<https://www.mcmaster.com/>
Joe
"Jim Wilkins"-a wrote in message news:106u8mr$336sc$1@dont-email.me...
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog understood
me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning. ----------------------------------------
A recent Amazon order that has been for a week and is still being
reported as "shipped" and due tomorrow was actually delivered around
noon today. Delivery has been good except for small bagged items that
were "lost" for a few days to months, the fumble seems to be with
tracking. At their peak Amazon showed where the truck is and how soon to expect it, but that soon vanished. Perhaps porch pirates were ordering
small items to see and misuse the info.
I sometimes got a spam delivery problem call after placing an order, suggesting they had a leak.
On 8/12/2025 11:06 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Jim Wilkins"-a wrote in message news:106u8mr$336sc$1@dont-email.me...
I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even from
Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog
understood
me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.
----------------------------------------
A recent Amazon order that has been for a week and is still being
reported as "shipped" and due tomorrow was actually delivered around
noon today. Delivery has been good except for small bagged items that
were "lost" for a few days to months, the fumble seems to be with
tracking. At their peak Amazon showed where the truck is and how soon
to expect it, but that soon vanished. Perhaps porch pirates were
ordering small items to see and misuse the info.
I sometimes got a spam delivery problem call after placing an order,
suggesting they had a leak.
My original post was not about Amazon, although a later post in the
thread did rant about one of the gaslighting lies they have baked into
their system.
My original post was about an industrial supplier.
On 8/12/2025 11:06 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: