• Oh That's Annoying as Frack! (on topic)

    From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Jul 19 10:11:15 2025
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    Its on topic. Every mill under power in the shop (except the no name
    mill drill) uses air for something.

    The new air dryer uses an automatic timer to vent the moisture trap...
    EVERY FRACKING 60 SECONDS!

    I am not a fan of just running the vent hose outside, but I may just do
    that. I thought about putting an air muffler on the end of the tube,
    but it might be more fun to watch a spider go flying across the shop
    when I power up in the morning. I have an extra muffler or two. I have
    them on three 5 port 4 way spool valves used for quick tool change
    spindles and they are tolerable. They also only actuate when I actuate
    them, so none of that unexpected broken peace when I they hiss at me.

    Yes, it really took me this long to get it all plumbed in and setup.
    I kept having to order or run and get one more fitting. Even now I am
    running a 40 inch flex line between the dryer and the post filter where
    I would prefer to be running a 20 inch flex line. (High pressure
    braided stainless with crimped fittings.)

    Its not cheap, and unlike the old dryer everything is supposed to
    operate at tank pressure with the shop regulator AFTER the pre filter,
    dryer, and post filter. I had to use gas line tape to get all the
    tapered threads to seal up. Everything else leaked. I should have done
    that in the first place. I know. I know. I was trying other things.
    I wound up taking everything apart and resealing it (except the metal to
    metal tapered surface connections on the high pressure flex line of
    course which sealed up just fine).

    I ran 3/4 from the tank to the prefilter. Everything new is actually 1
    inch, but the giant hex bushing in the side of the tank is 3/4, and all
    my main shop air lines are 3/4. I don't think the compressor could
    supply enough air to run a shop that needed 1 inch lines, but mostly I
    am hiding in the office being annoyed about that vent noise every 60
    seconds. Yes, its supposed to do that. I suppose I'll see if just
    sticking it in a catch can muffles it any.

    I still need to fix or replace an FRL on one machine that was leaking
    out the top of the lubricator. Then after almost two weeks I'll be able
    to start running parts again.

    Yeah, I could have been up a little quicker with better planning and/or
    if I didn't take advantage of the failure for a (very annoying) upgrade.
    Frack! That air vent is going to drive me nuts if I don't muffle it.
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Jul 19 12:09:12 2025
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    On 7/19/2025 10:11 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Its on topic.-a Every mill under power in the shop (except the no name
    mill drill) uses air for something.

    The new air dryer uses an automatic timer to vent the moisture trap...
    EVERY FRACKING 60 SECONDS!

    I am not a fan of just running the vent hose outside, but I may just do that.-a I thought about putting an air muffler on the end of the tube,
    but it might be more fun to watch a spider go flying across the shop
    when I power up in the morning.-a I have an extra muffler or two.-a I have them on three 5 port 4 way spool valves used for quick tool change
    spindles and they are tolerable.-a They also only actuate when I actuate them, so none of that unexpected broken peace when I they hiss at me.

    Yes, it really took me this long to get it all plumbed in and setup.
    I kept having to order or run and get one more fitting.-a Even now I am running a 40 inch flex line between the dryer and the post filter where
    I would prefer to be running a 20 inch flex line.-a (High pressure
    braided stainless with crimped fittings.)

    Its not cheap, and unlike the old dryer everything is supposed to
    operate at tank pressure with the shop regulator AFTER the pre filter, dryer, and post filter.-a I had to use gas line tape to get all the
    tapered threads to seal up.-a Everything else leaked.-a I should have done that in the first place.-a I know.-a I know.-a I was trying other things. I wound up taking everything apart and resealing it (except the metal to
    metal tapered surface connections on the high pressure flex line of
    course which sealed up just fine).

    I ran 3/4 from the tank to the prefilter.-a Everything new is actually 1 inch, but the giant hex bushing in the side of the tank is 3/4, and all
    my main shop air lines are 3/4.-a I don't think the compressor could
    supply enough air to run a shop that needed 1 inch lines, but mostly I
    am hiding in the office being annoyed about that vent noise every 60 seconds.-a Yes, its supposed to do that.-a I suppose I'll see if just sticking it in a catch can muffles it any.

    I still need to fix or replace an FRL on one machine that was leaking
    out the top of the lubricator.-a Then after almost two weeks I'll be able
    to start running parts again.

    Yeah, I could have been up a little quicker with better planning and/or
    if I didn't take advantage of the failure for a (very annoying) upgrade.
    -aFrack!-a That air vent is going to drive me nuts if I don't muffle it.


    Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake,
    but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works.

    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss. Yeah. No. No I
    am not.
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Jul 19 18:26:59 2025
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    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:105gqgm$2tggq$1@dont-email.me...

    Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake,
    but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works.

    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss. Yeah. No. No I
    am not.
    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------
    Is the outlet threaded so you could regulate it to lower pressure?

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Jul 19 15:38:09 2025
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    On 7/19/2025 3:26 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:105gqgm$2tggq$1@dont-email.me...
    Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake,
    but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works.

    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss.-a Yeah.-a No.-a No I am not.
    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------
    Is the outlet threaded so you could regulate it to lower pressure?



    I could stick a push on tube connector on the tube easily enough, but I
    don't think regulating the exhaust vent for the moisture trap on the air
    dryer would be a good idea.

    I'll probably nest a soup can inside a coffee canister or just drill a
    hole in the wall to stick the end of the tube outside.
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  • From Joe Gwinn@joegwinn@comcast.net to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Jul 19 19:43:52 2025
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    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:38:09 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 7/19/2025 3:26 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"a wrote in message news:105gqgm$2tggq$1@dont-email.me...
    Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake,
    but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works.

    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss.a Yeah.a No.a No I
    am not.
    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------
    Is the outlet threaded so you could regulate it to lower pressure?



    I could stick a push on tube connector on the tube easily enough, but I >don't think regulating the exhaust vent for the moisture trap on the air >dryer would be a good idea.

    I'll probably nest a soup can inside a coffee canister or just drill a
    hole in the wall to stick the end of the tube outside.

    You need something insect-proof as well. An air compressor muffler
    would likely be perfect.

    .<https://www.google.com/search?q=air%20compressor%20muffler&sclient=gws-wiz>

    Joe
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Jul 19 16:51:37 2025
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    On 7/19/2025 4:43 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:38:09 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 7/19/2025 3:26 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:105gqgm$2tggq$1@dont-email.me...
    Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake,
    but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works.

    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss.-a Yeah.-a No.-a No I >>> am not.
    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------
    Is the outlet threaded so you could regulate it to lower pressure?



    I could stick a push on tube connector on the tube easily enough, but I
    don't think regulating the exhaust vent for the moisture trap on the air
    dryer would be a good idea.

    I'll probably nest a soup can inside a coffee canister or just drill a
    hole in the wall to stick the end of the tube outside.

    You need something insect-proof as well. An air compressor muffler
    would likely be perfect.

    .<https://www.google.com/search?q=air%20compressor%20muffler&sclient=gws-wiz>

    Joe


    "I thought about putting an air muffler on the end of the tube, but it
    might be more fun to watch a spider go flying across the shop when I
    power up in the morning."
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  • From Joe Gwinn@joegwinn@comcast.net to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Jul 20 14:56:02 2025
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    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 16:51:37 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 7/19/2025 4:43 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:38:09 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 7/19/2025 3:26 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"a wrote in message news:105gqgm$2tggq$1@dont-email.me... >>>> Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake, >>>> but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works.

    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss.a Yeah.a No.a No I >>>> am not.
    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------
    Is the outlet threaded so you could regulate it to lower pressure?



    I could stick a push on tube connector on the tube easily enough, but I
    don't think regulating the exhaust vent for the moisture trap on the air >>> dryer would be a good idea.

    I'll probably nest a soup can inside a coffee canister or just drill a
    hole in the wall to stick the end of the tube outside.

    You need something insect-proof as well. An air compressor muffler
    would likely be perfect.

    .<https://www.google.com/search?q=air%20compressor%20muffler&sclient=gws-wiz>

    Joe


    "I thought about putting an air muffler on the end of the tube, but it
    might be more fun to watch a spider go flying across the shop when I
    power up in the morning."

    That will soon become ho hum.

    Joe
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Jul 20 12:10:38 2025
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    On 7/20/2025 11:56 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 16:51:37 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 7/19/2025 4:43 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:38:09 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 7/19/2025 3:26 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:105gqgm$2tggq$1@dont-email.me... >>>>> Its still hissing at me ever 60 seconds like a vindictive gopher snake, >>>>> but on a positive note the air drill used for de-burring still works. >>>>>
    I'm actually kind of starting to get used to the hiss.-a Yeah.-a No.-a No I
    am not.
    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------
    Is the outlet threaded so you could regulate it to lower pressure?



    I could stick a push on tube connector on the tube easily enough, but I >>>> don't think regulating the exhaust vent for the moisture trap on the air >>>> dryer would be a good idea.

    I'll probably nest a soup can inside a coffee canister or just drill a >>>> hole in the wall to stick the end of the tube outside.

    You need something insect-proof as well. An air compressor muffler
    would likely be perfect.

    .<https://www.google.com/search?q=air%20compressor%20muffler&sclient=gws-wiz>

    Joe


    "I thought about putting an air muffler on the end of the tube, but it
    might be more fun to watch a spider go flying across the shop when I
    power up in the morning."

    That will soon become ho hum.

    Joe


    Its funny. When I first built the shop I had dozens of black widow
    spiders try to call it home, but in the last couple years I haven't seen
    a single one inside.

    I sprayed the entrances and around the base of the walls of course, but
    I have not sprayed the shop in a few years.

    The house gets sprayed once a month outside, but that's contracted out.
    I wonder if the house guy is spraying around the shop.
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    CNC Molds N Stuff

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