• Re: US vs Uk Gravel

    From sms@scharf.steven@geemail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Aug 11 12:20:29 2025
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    On 8/4/2025 1:39 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

    The 3 x 8 will be the main gotcha with that, even with budget bikes, they
    are going 1by, which makes sense as most folks particularly if itrCOs a leisure hybrid etc, arenrCOt using the full range of gears. My old commute bike was on 1 x9 until I upgraded to Shimano Cues as something broke and would have taken longer than I was prepared to be without a commute bike
    for, plus itrCOs somewhat better.

    There are some 3x8 with Shimano Tourney, which is a problematic groupset.

    I did find one 3x8 Shimano Claris, but with drop bars.

    Conversion to flat bars would cost me about $125 for Claris flat bar
    shifters, 4 finger flat bar Tektro brake levers, and handlebars. Might
    need to change the stem, not sure, so it could end up at $160 or so.

    I really did not want "a project," but am resigned to it now. It's okay.
    I did the drop bar to flat bar conversion on my wife's road bike and it
    was easy. Just annoying to throw away the old brifters and bars.

    My current road bike can't really be converted to a gravel-like bike,
    the clearance for larger tires is not there.

    Mechanical discs are on two mountain bikes in our fleet, and they've
    been fine. Everyone I know rails against hydraulic discs as being great
    when they work but problematic when they leak oil.

    In my area, so many of the good rides end up with some steep inclines.
    Perhaps a 22 year old would be fine with a 1x9, 1x10, 1x11 or 1x12, but
    it's not good enough for a senior who needs that "granny gear." One of
    me exes opted for a custom titanium with a 3x8 Sora groupset, but she
    spent several thousand dollars on it.

    Don't really need a dynamo wheel.
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Aug 11 14:33:34 2025
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    On 8/11/2025 2:20 PM, sms wrote:
    On 8/4/2025 1:39 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

    The 3 x 8 will be the main gotcha with that, even with
    budget bikes, they
    are going 1by, which makes sense as most folks
    particularly if itrCOs a
    leisure hybrid etc, arenrCOt using the full range of gears.
    My old commute
    bike was on 1 x9 until I upgraded to Shimano Cues as
    something broke and
    would have taken longer than I was prepared to be without
    a commute bike
    for, plus itrCOs somewhat better.

    There are some 3x8 with Shimano Tourney, which is a
    problematic groupset.

    I did find one 3x8 Shimano Claris, but with drop bars.

    Conversion to flat bars would cost me about $125 for Claris
    flat bar shifters, 4 finger flat bar Tektro brake levers,
    and handlebars. Might need to change the stem, not sure, so
    it could end up at $160 or so.

    I really did not want "a project," but am resigned to it
    now. It's okay. I did the drop bar to flat bar conversion on
    my wife's road bike and it was easy. Just annoying to throw
    away the old brifters and bars.

    My current road bike can't really be converted to a gravel-
    like bike, the clearance for larger tires is not there.

    Mechanical discs are on two mountain bikes in our fleet, and
    they've been fine. Everyone I know rails against hydraulic
    discs as being great when they work but problematic when
    they leak oil.

    In my area, so many of the good rides end up with some steep
    inclines. Perhaps a 22 year old would be fine with a 1x9,
    1x10, 1x11 or 1x12, but it's not good enough for a senior
    who needs that "granny gear." One of me exes opted for a
    custom titanium with a 3x8 Sora groupset, but she spent
    several thousand dollars on it.

    Don't really need a dynamo wheel.

    Campagnolo Ekar 1x13 ranges from high 104 inches (plenty big
    in our age group; no need for the 114 high gear option) to
    low 23 inches. Your present bike is unlikely to be geared
    lower than that!
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From sms@scharf.steven@geemail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Aug 11 16:56:27 2025
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    On 8/11/2025 12:33 PM, AMuzi wrote:

    Campagnolo Ekar 1x13 ranges from high 104 inches (plenty big in our age group; no need for the 114 high gear option) to low 23 inches.-a Your present bike is unlikely to be geared lower than that!

    That's good, but that groupset is over $600.

    What I'm looking at in the 3x8 is 121 to 24, though I could swap the 30
    teeth chain ring for a 26 and do 121 to 20.


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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Aug 12 02:40:50 2025
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    sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 8/11/2025 12:33 PM, AMuzi wrote:

    Campagnolo Ekar 1x13 ranges from high 104 inches (plenty big in our age
    group; no need for the 114 high gear option) to low 23 inches.-a Your
    present bike is unlikely to be geared lower than that!

    That's good, but that groupset is over $600.

    What I'm looking at in the 3x8 is 121 to 24, though I could swap the 30 teeth chain ring for a 26 and do 121 to 20.



    Which is the same as Tiagra/GRX 2x10 in terms of gearing range.

    CanrCOt remember if that has a cable option or just Hydraulic though I think your fears are misplaced, all but one of my fleet are hydraulic, and some
    are fairly old, the commute bike hydraulics are 10 years old itrCOs original set was working fine, ie 20 years old, but it got a better set if still 10 years old, in a hand me down fashion, when the MTB had a upgrade.

    Local charity took the older brakes with pleasure!

    Roger Merriman

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