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The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to
prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to
prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
Your also rather better read up than Tom, as this is as ever conspiracy theory and all that.
Roger Merriman
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.The chances of this study being wrong are 1 in a 1,000. Jeff lives in the woods, doesn't have exposure and had no reason to be vaccinated. His sole purpose was to show everyone how wrong I was. Every study since I wrote that original posting in 2020 has varified everything I said. They have all issued the same warnings I made 5 years ago. Liebermann couldn't stand the idea that I was that far ahead of the curve. That is really too bad because everything I said was to help people, not to make them look stupid.
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to
prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
Your also rather better read up than Tom, as this is as ever conspiracy theory and all that.Roger, I don't know if you were "vaccinated" or not, but it caused serious blood clotting in a large percentage of people. Some of whom lost arms and legs. Would you consider it a conspiracy theory if you were confined to a wheelchair? I cannot begin to tell you the life of my maternal uncle after he got polio. If you were given the chance to warn people, would you?
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detrimenthttps://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breaking-second-massive-population-study-finds-covid-19-vaccines-increase-risk-of-6-major-cancers/
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
On Wed Oct 1 21:22:14 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to >> >> prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
Your also rather better read up than Tom, as this is as ever conspiracy
theory and all that.
Roger, I don't know if you were "vaccinated" or not, but it causedserious blood clotting in a large percentage of people. Some of whom
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Yes, and even a casual reading shows that "experts pointed out that
the conclusion of the study was exaggerated and lacked scientific
evidence."
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases starting in 2014: <https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going
to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid >bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of
him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
On Wed Oct 1 19:23:31 2025 cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to
prove me wrong to you own detriment
https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breaking-second-massive-population-study-finds-covid-19-vaccines-increase-risk-of-6-major-cancers/
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 19:23:31 2025 cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to
prove me wrong to you own detriment
https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breaking-second-massive-population-study-finds-covid-19-vaccines-increase-risk-of-6-major-cancers/
Absolutely believable, not! Can you not understand how not trustable that website is?Roger, you can believe anything you like but please don't tell me that a study from South Korea can't be trusted.
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 22:18:20 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 21:22:14 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to >> >> prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
Your also rather better read up than Tom, as this is as ever conspiracy
theory and all that.
John B MDRoger, I don't know if you were "vaccinated" or not, but it causedserious blood clotting in a large percentage of people. Some of whom
lost arms and legs. Would you consider it a conspiracy theory if you
were confined to a wheelchair? I cannot begin to tell you the life of
my maternal uncle after he got polio. If you were given the chance to
warn people, would you?
How curious. In a country that emphasized vaccination death rates due
to the virus were 494/1 million population while the U.S., where I
read that vaccination was less common, death rates, again due to the
virus, were 7 times higher.
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases starting in 2014: <https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases starting in 2014: <https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developedAnd here I thought that you were going to brag again about you 2 299 mile rides with an average speed of 20 mph. Or you can deny having said that since your way about everythying is to lie. And gee, now you don't have Frank to agree with you.
this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since
those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going
to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid
bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of
him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycleTell me what I'm "crying" about? You don't believe the study from South Korea? --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going
to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid >bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
So cruel.... What would Tom have to talk about if he "crying again
about some stupid bullshit" were to be eliminated from his
conversations?
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going
to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid >bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of
him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
On Thu Oct 2 11:32:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 19:23:31 2025 cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to >> >> prove me wrong to you own detriment
https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breaking-second-massive-population-study-finds-covid-19-vaccines-increase-risk-of-6-major-cancers/
Absolutely believable, not! Can you not understand how not trustable that
website is?
Roger, you can believe anything you like but please don't tell me that a study from South Korea can't be trusted.
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycleLooks like the smartest man in the worold is changintg tactics to those of flunky. But they gave the same effect. I told everyone that Covid-19 was not particularly dangerous and that it wqas nothing more than an influenza strain that most peopole had almost full immunity from and nearly everyone had at least parcial immunity. I said that using an experimental vaccine that was never used before was dangerous.
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going
to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid >bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
The three year old is far more intelligent and observant than Tom. He
is smart enough to stop using methods that fail to have a desirable
effect. For example, he stops crying because he has noticed that
crying might get him some attention, it doesn't necessarily get him
what he wants.
Tom has noticed that lying, bragging, complaining and whining can get
him some attention. However, he has failed to notice that these and
other insults to the readers intelligence, have consistently failed to
win Tom any arguments. Tom has done as well as the 3 year old in
getting attention, but has progressed no further. Repeatedly invoking
the same false claims and repeating the same mistakes, is not the path
to fame, fortune, credibility or success. Tom needs to try something different which might have a chance of working. I could offer some suggestions, but Tom also ignores most advice making such offers
futile.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
Tom, please re-read what you wrote:Here's another article targeting your types of questions https://indepnews.org/en/south-korea-study-dismantles-vaccine-narrative/ Doesn't it seem the least strange that the same people that promoted mRNA vaccines (in case you're unaware - cDNA vaccines are generated by mRNA vaccines) have either been entirely siolent or like the article that John referenced were written from the perspective of a CDC doctor that worked with Fauci?
"The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people."
If you show me where you mentioned increases in 6 unspecified cancer
rates or an unspecified overall cancer rate, in some unspecified
nations or cancer sites, I might be tempted to believe your rubbish.
Extra credit if you could find a statistically significant correlation between Covid-19 vaccinations and your 68% increase in prostate cancer
among vaccinated individuals.
Please spend some time learning the difference between bragging and
informing you that you're wrong. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boasting#:~:text=3dBoasting%20or%20bragging%20is%20speaking,achievements%2C%20possessions%2C%20or%20abilities>
Examples of bragging would be your unsubstantiated claims of personal
wealth, difficult to believe personal achievements, and amazing
abilities.
Incidentally, I have an appointment today at 1:30pm to get a Covid-19
booster shop. My appointments have been cancelled at the last moment
4 times in approximately the last month because Walgreens pharmacy did
not a sufficient supply. My guess(tm) is that they ran out because
people were appearing at the pharmacy without appointments which
caused the available supply of vaccine to be unpredictable.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:17:55 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 11:32:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 19:23:31 2025 cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to >> >> prove me wrong to you own detriment
https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breaking-second-massive-population-study-finds-covid-19-vaccines-increase-risk-of-6-major-cancers/
Absolutely believable, not! Can you not understand how not trustable that >> website is?
ONLY the woeld's smartest man who couldn't get a job would look on fact checking sites for the veracity of a medical journal.Roger, you can believe anything you like but please don't tell me that a study from South Korea can't be trusted.
The first page of the PublicHealthPolicyJournal.com page (above)
reference the source as: <https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-first-population-wide-study>
which points to a summary at:
<https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40881928/>
and it's source at:
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12381369/>
The only mention of Korea are 2 citations in the references (#48 and
#55).
The author of the PublicHealthPolicyJournal.com article posts some
stuff about "The MAHA Betrayal: Pfizer Rewarded, America Backstabbed" <https://substack.com/home/post/p-175104574>
Searching several fact checking sites, I found no mention of PublicHealthPolicyJournal.com
I'm out of time for this today.
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
Am 02.10.2025 um 04:35 schrieb John B.:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Yes, and even a casual reading shows that "experts pointed out that
the conclusion of the study was exaggerated and lacked scientific
evidence."
Even more: cDNA vaccines (Astra Zeneca) increased the supposed "cancer
risk" double as much as mRNA vacines.
On 2025-10-01, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
I thought the 68% was too high, but that is the number quoted in the 1 year Korean study w/ n= 8.4 million or something like that.
Dr. Campbell covers it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayfRq-CPF6I
As always, he has links to the actual authors and paper.
Dr. Phillip McMillan ("vejon health") covers it as well.
An owie prostate can be hard to ride a bike with....there, bike content covered....
pH
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 18:39:20 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 09:18:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases >>> >> starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >>> >this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >>> >those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going >>> >to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >>> >insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid
bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >>> >him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one
believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
The three year old is far more intelligent and observant than Tom. He
is smart enough to stop using methods that fail to have a desirable
effect. For example, he stops crying because he has noticed that
crying might get him some attention, it doesn't necessarily get him
what he wants.
Tom has noticed that lying, bragging, complaining and whining can get
him some attention. However, he has failed to notice that these and
other insults to the readers intelligence, have consistently failed to
win Tom any arguments. Tom has done as well as the 3 year old in
getting attention, but has progressed no further. Repeatedly invoking
the same false claims and repeating the same mistakes, is not the path
to fame, fortune, credibility or success. Tom needs to try something
different which might have a chance of working. I could offer some
suggestions, but Tom also ignores most advice making such offers
futile.
Looks like the smartest man in the worold is changintg tactics to those of flunky. But they gave the same effect. I told everyone that Covid-19 was not particularly dangerous and that it wqas nothing more than an influenza strain that most peopole had almost full immunity from and nearly everyone had at least parcial immunity. I said that using an experimental vaccine that was never used before was dangerous.
These things were TRUE and not only were the claims of the dangers of Covidextremely overstated, but EVERY large study has shown vertually all deaths attributed to covid-19 occurred only to those vaccinated. Pin headed Flunky is dancing around with another reason to show his cowardice and the smartest man on earth who couldn't get a job are perfectly happy that heavy duty disease passed them up without a care what happened to others. Hey, Flunky, obviously at 80 I'm too weak and helpless to treat you the way you should be treated. Frank said that I would just fall over and you agreed with him. So why the fear to use your real name?
Why the denial that you said that you did 2 200 mile rides?
Liebermann, those vaccinations don't go away, and they can spread further until they do ptomote your final days on this earth. You'd better start saving your illegal drugs to take the appropriate actions when they do.
So tell us, Tommy, given that more then 70% of the world population--
has taken the vaccine... when can we expect them to start falling down
dead
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 09:18:38 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>--
wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >>>this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result >>>from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >>>those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going >>>to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >>>insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped >>>almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid >>>bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >>>him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >>>believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a >>>three-year-old than tommy.
The three year old is far more intelligent and observant than Tom. He
is smart enough to stop using methods that fail to have a desirable
effect. For example, he stops crying because he has noticed that
crying might get him some attention, it doesn't necessarily get him
what he wants.
Tom has noticed that lying, bragging, complaining and whining can get
him some attention. However, he has failed to notice that these and
other insults to the readers intelligence, have consistently failed to
win Tom any arguments. Tom has done as well as the 3 year old in
getting attention, but has progressed no further. Repeatedly invoking
the same false claims and repeating the same mistakes, is not the path
to fame, fortune, credibility or success. Tom needs to try something >>different which might have a chance of working. I could offer some >>suggestions, but Tom also ignores most advice making such offers
futile.
But... what else has he got? He is certainly not a competent bicycle
mechanic
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.--
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 09:18:38 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>--
wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >>>this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result >>>from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >>>those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going >>>to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >>>insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped >>>almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid >>>bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >>>him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >>>believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a >>>three-year-old than tommy.
The three year old is far more intelligent and observant than Tom. He
is smart enough to stop using methods that fail to have a desirable
effect. For example, he stops crying because he has noticed that
crying might get him some attention, it doesn't necessarily get him
what he wants.
Tom has noticed that lying, bragging, complaining and whining can get
him some attention. However, he has failed to notice that these and
other insults to the readers intelligence, have consistently failed to
win Tom any arguments. Tom has done as well as the 3 year old in
getting attention, but has progressed no further. Repeatedly invoking
the same false claims and repeating the same mistakes, is not the path
to fame, fortune, credibility or success. Tom needs to try something >>different which might have a chance of working. I could offer some >>suggestions, but Tom also ignores most advice making such offers
futile.
But... what else has he got? He is certainly not a competent bicycle
mechanic
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>--
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>--
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 18:39:20 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 09:18:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases >>> >> starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >>> >this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >>> >those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going >>> >to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >>> >insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid
bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >>> >him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one
believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
The three year old is far more intelligent and observant than Tom. He
is smart enough to stop using methods that fail to have a desirable
effect. For example, he stops crying because he has noticed that
crying might get him some attention, it doesn't necessarily get him
what he wants.
Tom has noticed that lying, bragging, complaining and whining can get
him some attention. However, he has failed to notice that these and
other insults to the readers intelligence, have consistently failed to
win Tom any arguments. Tom has done as well as the 3 year old in
getting attention, but has progressed no further. Repeatedly invoking
the same false claims and repeating the same mistakes, is not the path
to fame, fortune, credibility or success. Tom needs to try something
different which might have a chance of working. I could offer some
suggestions, but Tom also ignores most advice making such offers
futile.
Looks like the smartest man in the worold is changintg tactics to those of flunky. But they gave the same effect. I told everyone that Covid-19 was not particularly dangerous and that it wqas nothing more than an influenza strain that most peopole had almost full immunity from and nearly everyone had at least parcial immunity. I said that using an experimental vaccine that was never used before was dangerous.
These things were TRUE and not only were the claims of the dangers of Covidextremely overstated, but EVERY large study has shown vertually all deaths attributed to covid-19 occurred only to those vaccinated. Pin headed Flunky is dancing around with another reason to show his cowardice and the smartest man on earth who couldn't get a job are perfectly happy that heavy duty disease passed them up without a care what happened to others. Hey, Flunky, obviously at 80 I'm too weak and helpless to treat you the way you should be treated. Frank said that I would just fall over and you agreed with him. So why the fear to use your real name?
Why the denial that you said that you did 2 200 mile rides?
Liebermann, those vaccinations don't go away, and they can spread further until they do ptomote your final days on this earth. You'd better start saving your illegal drugs to take the appropriate actions when they do.
So tell us, Tommy, given that more then 70% of the world population--
has taken the vaccine... when can we expect them to start falling down
dead
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:59:08 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 02.10.2025 um 04:35 schrieb John B.:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated
to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Yes, and even a casual reading shows that "experts pointed out that
the conclusion of the study was exaggerated and lacked scientific
evidence."
Even more: cDNA vaccines (Astra Zeneca) increased the supposed "cancer
risk" double as much as mRNA vacines.
Another thing that seems to be ignored in the "great debate" is the
fact that "More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a
dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world population."
If the vaccine is as deadly as some argue people 'round the world must
be dropping dead in masses daily
--
cheers,
John B.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 18:02:26 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 18:39:20 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 09:18:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 05:17:25 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 8:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in >>>>>> Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases >>>>>> starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't >>>>>> happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: >>>>>> <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
One of my grandsons just turned 3. While in his 2s, he somehow developed >>>>> this annoying habit of crying when he didn't get his way. The result
from his parents was to put him in a time out. It's been working, since >>>>> those time out periods have been shrinking as he realizes he isn't going >>>>> to get his way.
The other day while I was babysitting, he started crying about something >>>>> insignificant, and I asked him " does crying ever work?" he stopped
almost immediately.
What we have in this thread is tommy crying again about some stupid
bullshit, expecting it to work, even though through after two decades of >>>>> him crying about some conspiracy theory, it has never worked - no one >>>>> believes him, he doesn't get his way.
The lesson here, is that it's easier to rationalize with a
three-year-old than tommy.
The three year old is far more intelligent and observant than Tom. He >>>> is smart enough to stop using methods that fail to have a desirable
effect. For example, he stops crying because he has noticed that
crying might get him some attention, it doesn't necessarily get him
what he wants.
Tom has noticed that lying, bragging, complaining and whining can get
him some attention. However, he has failed to notice that these and
other insults to the readers intelligence, have consistently failed to >>>> win Tom any arguments. Tom has done as well as the 3 year old in
getting attention, but has progressed no further. Repeatedly invoking >>>> the same false claims and repeating the same mistakes, is not the path >>>> to fame, fortune, credibility or success. Tom needs to try something
different which might have a chance of working. I could offer some
suggestions, but Tom also ignores most advice making such offers
futile.
Looks like the smartest man in the worold is changintg tactics to those of flunky. But they gave the same effect.
I told everyone that Covid-19 was not particularly dangerous and that it wqas nothing more than an influenza strain that most peopole had almost full immunity from and nearly everyone had at least parcial immunity. I said that using an experimental vaccine that was never used before was dangerous.
These things were TRUE and not only were the claims of the dangers of Covidextremely overstated, but EVERY large study has shown vertually all deaths attributed to covid-19 occurred only to those vaccinated.
Pin headed Flunky is dancing around with another reason to show his cowardice and the smartest man on earth who couldn't get a job are perfectly happy that heavy duty disease passed them up without a care what happened to others. Hey, Flunky, obviously at 80 I'm too weak and helpless to treat you the way you should be treated. Frank said that I would just fall over and you agreed with him. So why the fear to use your real name?
Why the denial that you said that you did 2 200 mile rides?
Liebermann, those vaccinations don't go away, and they can spread further until they do ptomote your final days on this earth. You'd better start saving your illegal drugs to take the appropriate actions when they do.
So tell us, Tommy, given that more then 70% of the world population
has taken the vaccine... when can we expect them to start falling down
dead
--
cheers,
John B.
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:17:55 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 11:32:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 19:23:31 2025 cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to >>>>> prove me wrong to you own detriment
https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breaking-second-massive-population-study-finds-covid-19-vaccines-increase-risk-of-6-major-cancers/
Absolutely believable, not! Can you not understand how not trustable that >>> website is?
Roger, you can believe anything you like but please don't tell me that a study from South Korea can't be trusted.
The first page of the PublicHealthPolicyJournal.com page (above)
reference the source as: <https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-first-population-wide-study>
which points to a summary at:
<https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40881928/>
and it's source at:
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12381369/>
The only mention of Korea are 2 citations in the references (#48 and
#55).
The author of the PublicHealthPolicyJournal.com article posts some
stuff about "The MAHA Betrayal: Pfizer Rewarded, America Backstabbed" <https://substack.com/home/post/p-175104574>
Searching several fact checking sites, I found no mention of PublicHealthPolicyJournal.com
I'm out of time for this today.
ers/
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.John, for you probably theday after tomorrow. Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly correct? It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19. Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your mouth is.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
You're not worthyTell us how important you are that you can spend all day on this newsgroup. That isn't being important, that's being insignificant. And erasing your routes off of strava isn't convincing me one bit. As soon as I pointed out your preposterous claim you erased them realizing how stupid such a claim was. So not only are you insignificant at your job but you're a liar as well.
When any of the other stories he tells become true
He didn't tell you that, you fucking idiot. He told you the websiteTell us again about how much you trust a man who spent the majority of his life unemployed because he is so smart.
isn't trustable - the fact that the study was done in South Korea is irrelevant
On 2025-10-01, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 10/1/2025 2:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
Meh. I'm neither Korean nor vaccinated.
I thought the 68% was too high, but that is the number quoted in the 1 year Korean study w/ n=3d 8.4 million or something like that.Liebermann tells us that he contracted prostate cancer in 2007. I am bothered by the fact that someone with a history of cancer would take a chance on a new and experimental "vaccine" that works by turning you body against itself. What's more doing it only to say that I am wrong because he hasn't died yet.
Dr. Campbell covers it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dayfRq-CPF6I
As always, he has links to the actual authors and paper.
Dr. Phillip McMillan ("vejon health") covers it as well.
An owie prostate can be hard to ride a bike with....there, bike content covered....
Another thing that seems to be ignored in the "great debate" is theJohn, they are, It appears that some 13% of the population that took the vaccines had fatal effects from it. I'm not going to take the time to explain why only 13% but what makes you think that you aren't part of that? Because you haven't had noticeable effects yet?
fact that "More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a
dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world population."
If the vaccine is as deadly as some argue people 'round the world must
be dropping dead in masses daily
On Thu Oct 2 18:09:27 2025 John B. wrote:
Another thing that seems to be ignored in the "great debate" is the
fact that "More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a
dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world
population."
If the vaccine is as deadly as some argue people 'round the world must
be dropping dead in masses daily
John, they are, It appears that some 13% of the population that took the vaccines had fatal effects from it. I'm not going to take the time to explain why only 13% but what makes you think that you aren't part of that? Because you haven't had noticeable effects yet?
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in
Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow. Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly correct? It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19. Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your mouth is.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:15:59 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 18:09:27 2025 John B. wrote:
Another thing that seems to be ignored in the "great debate" is the
fact that "More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a
dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world
population."
If the vaccine is as deadly as some argue people 'round the world must
be dropping dead in masses daily
John, they are, It appears that some 13% of the population that took the
vaccines had fatal effects from it. I'm not going to take the time to
explain why only 13% but what makes you think that you aren't part of
that? Because you haven't had noticeable effects yet?
Are you arguing that 13% of the 70-some percent of the world
population that took the shots have had fatal effects? Fatal = dead.
Tom I think you have reached a level of stupidity that is, with out
doubt , a level never before achieved by any previous poster in the
history of the Internet.
--
cheers,
John B.
John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:15:59 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 18:09:27 2025 John B. wrote:
Another thing that seems to be ignored in the "great debate" is the
fact that "More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a
dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world
population."
If the vaccine is as deadly as some argue people 'round the world must >>>> be dropping dead in masses daily
John, they are, It appears that some 13% of the population that took the >>> vaccines had fatal effects from it. I'm not going to take the time to
explain why only 13% but what makes you think that you aren't part of
that? Because you haven't had noticeable effects yet?
Are you arguing that 13% of the 70-some percent of the world
population that took the shots have had fatal effects? Fatal = dead.
Tom I think you have reached a level of stupidity that is, with out
doubt , a level never before achieved by any previous poster in the
history of the Internet.
Yup itAs late but his maths and logic doesnAt appear to work!
--Roger Merriman
cheers,
John B.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in >>>>>> Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases >>>>>> starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't >>>>>> happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: >>>>>> <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect >>>> them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly correct?
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19.
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your mouth is.
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in >>>>>>> Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases >>>>>>> starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't >>>>>>> happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: >>>>>>> <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken >>>>> at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect >>>>> them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year old grandson
knows now to quit when he keeps trying something that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your moutheis.
can't afford private insurance, Where as John has what seem to be a >reasonably well working socialized health care system.
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B.-a wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann-a wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68%
increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people.
So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me
wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me.-a I had my prostate
surgically removed in
Aug 2007.-a Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new
prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/
application.html?
site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence
caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in
2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to
under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between
OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers
becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag
that you caught cancer before the vaccines had
anything to do with it. But you are the first person I
ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world
population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines.
When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year old
grandson knows now to quit when he keeps trying something
that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is
undoubtedly correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to
pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less
comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite
comments on the paper from the people who backed the
vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have
shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly
from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so
much faith in big pharma and they are presently
recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your
mouth is.
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he
will, for the simple fact that your orange master plans on
gutting medicaid and you can't afford private insurance,
Where as John has what seem to be a reasonably well working
socialized health care system.
On 10/4/2025 6:31 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B.a wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermanna wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68%
increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people.
So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me
wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me.a I had my prostate
surgically removed in
Aug 2007.a Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new
prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/
application.html?
site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence
caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in
2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to
under-reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between
OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers
becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag
that you caught cancer before the vaccines had
anything to do with it. But you are the first person I
ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world
population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines.
When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year old
grandson knows now to quit when he keeps trying something
that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is
undoubtedly correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to
pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less
comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite
comments on the paper from the people who backed the
vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have
shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly
from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so
much faith in big pharma and they are presently
recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your
mouth is.
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he
will, for the simple fact that your orange master plans on
gutting medicaid and you can't afford private insurance,
Where as John has what seem to be a reasonably well working
socialized health care system.
There's no evidence of that, and in fact the President has
said explicitly for 10 years that he does not intend to cut
Medicare.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal
situation, you did not intend to write 'Medicaid')
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating
Medicare, but that is absolutely not on the table at all,
not even a little bit, in current US politics. By anyone.
You are ignoring the fact that some 70% of the world population hasJohn why don't ypu pay atten6tion? Very few countries have run popuolqation wide studies because their goverments forced vaccines upon thier populations, biut ALL of the countries that have have shown exactly the same results - wiold increases in all orgnic illne3sses only among those who0 rfeceived mRNA vaccinations and n0o suchy diseases aqmong the non vaccinated. Or MAYBE you've forgotten the study by Jqa-pan that showed similar results? Similar results are shown in Great Britain. Vaccinations wee not forced upon the people of Denmark qnd these diseases did not appear there.
received one or more Covid shots... and only S. Korea has noticed a
problem?
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:lunky, stop trying to0 be almost as smart as Liebemann. You nowhere close to him. I don't even think you wactually ride a bike anymore.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me. I had my prostate surgically removed in >>>>>> Aug 2007. Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer cases >>>>>> starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d66&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d2&compareBy=3drace&chk_race_1=3d1&rate_type=3d2&hdn_sex=3d2&age_range=3d1&stage=3d101&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0&advopt_show_apc=3don&advopt_display=3d2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't >>>>>> happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-reporting: >>>>>> <https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken >>>> at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we expect >>>> them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year old grandson
knows now to quit when he keeps trying something that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your mouth is.
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he will, for the
simple fact that your orange master plans on gutting medicaid and you
can't afford private insurance, Where as John has what seem to be a reasonably well working socialized health care system.
On 10/4/2025 6:31 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B.-a wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann-a wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in
prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to >>>>>>>>> get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me.-a I had my prostate surgically removed in >>>>>>>> Aug 2007.-a Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer >>>>>>>> cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/
application.html?
site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by >>>>>>>> Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't >>>>>>>> happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-
reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer >>>>>>> rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am
happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the
vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person >>>>>>> I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken >>>>>> at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we
expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year old grandson
knows now to quit when he keeps trying something that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly
correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that
it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached
the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people
who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have
shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in
big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put
your money where your mouth is.
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he will, for the
simple fact that your orange master plans on gutting medicaid and you
can't afford private insurance, Where as John has what seem to be a
reasonably well working socialized health care system.
There's no evidence of that,
and in fact the President has said
explicitly for 10 years that he does not intend to cut Medicare.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal situation, you did
not intend to write 'Medicaid')
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating Medicare, but
that is absolutely not on the table at all, not even a little bit, in current US politics.-a By anyone.
On 10/4/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/4/2025 6:31 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B.-a wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermann-a wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom
<cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68%
increase in prostate cancer among vaccinated
people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated to
prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me.-a I had my prostate
surgically removed in
Aug 2007.-a Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new
prostate cancer cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/
explorer/ application.html?
site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer
incidence caused by
Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in
2021, which isn't
happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to
under- reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between
OVERALL cancer rate falling and 6 specific cancers
becoming more common? I am happy that you can brag
that you caught cancer before the vaccines had
anything to do with it. But you are the first person
I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world
population has taken
at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines.
When can we expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year
old grandson knows now to quit when he keeps trying
something that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study
is undoubtedly correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to
pretend that it is my study. Even though prior less
comprehensive studies reached the same conclusion you
cite comments on the paper from the people who backed
the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies
have shown that NO unvaccinated people have died
supposedly from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so
much faith in big pharma and they are presently
recommending it? Come on John, put your money where your
mouth is.
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he
will, for the simple fact that your orange master plans
on gutting medicaid and you can't afford private
insurance, Where as John has what seem to be a reasonably
well working socialized health care system.
There's no evidence of that,
Yes, there is, plenty. Read Project 2025 from The Heritage
Foundation.
and in fact the President has said explicitly for 10 years
that he does not intend to cut Medicare.
I - for one - do not trust one word out of that assholes
mouth. What he says vs what he does are two completely
separate and unrelated things.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal
situation, you did not intend to write 'Medicaid')
Yes, but irrelevant in the greater context
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating
Medicare, but that is absolutely not on the table at all,
not even a little bit, in current US politics.-a By anyone.
Get your head out of the sand.
In their own words (Mike Johnson, JD Vance, RFK, Mehmet Oz):
https://www.cms.gov/oact/tr/2025
Explainers:
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2025s- medicare-changes-would-restrict-older-americans-access-to- care-and-imperil-the-programs-financial-health/
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-changes-coming-to-the- aca-medicaid-and-medicare
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/trump-project-2025-and- the-social-safety-net/
https://medicareadvocacy.org/impact-of-the-big-bill-on-
medicare/
Looks like you'll get your wish, at the expense of millions
of older and low-income Americans. But hey, I guess the pain
and suffering of a vulnerable population is worth it
compared to the few bucks it might save me in taxes, right.
After all, it's just like what Charlie Kirk said about the
2nd amendment..."I think itrCOs worth to have a cost of,
unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we
can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given
rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
Yeah, the death of a few dozen school children every year is
worth it as long as you get to keep your toys, and, the pain
and suffering of low income seniors is worth it as long as
it means you get a lower tax bill.
What a wonderful country you've built for yourself.
On 10/4/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/4/2025 6:31 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/3/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:17:56 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Oct 2 19:04:14 2025 John B.a wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 17:51:29 -0700, John B.
<jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:37:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Wed Oct 1 17:10:02 2025 Jeff Liebermanna wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 19:23:31 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in >>>>>>>>>> prostate cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to >>>>>>>>>> get vacc8inated to prove me wrong to you own detriment
It's not a problem for me.a I had my prostate surgically removed in >>>>>>>>> Aug 2007.a Thanks you for your concern.
There has been an increase in the number of new prostate cancer >>>>>>>>> cases
starting in 2014:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/
application.html?
site=66&data_type=1&graph_type=2&compareBy=race&chk_race_1=1&rate_type=2&hdn_sex=2&age_range=1&stage=101&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0&advopt_show_apc=on&advopt_display=2>
If there was an increase in prostate cancer incidence caused by >>>>>>>>> Covid-19, I would expect a sharp rise starting in 2021, which isn't >>>>>>>>> happening.
Note that the data for 2020 has been ignored due to under-
reporting:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/data/covid-impact.html>
Liebermann, can you tell us the difference between OVERALL cancer >>>>>>>> rate falling and 6 specific cancers becoming more common? I am >>>>>>>> happy that you can brag that you caught cancer before the
vaccines had anything to do with it. But you are the first person >>>>>>>> I ever met that bragged about contracting cancer.
As I previously wrote more then 70% of the world population has taken >>>>>>> at least 1 dose of these deadly dangerous vaccines. When can we >>>>>>> expect
them to start dropping dead.
Tell us Tommy, the world is waiting for your answer.
John, for you probably theday after tomorrow.
You've been saying that for five years. Even my 3 year old grandson
knows now to quit when he keeps trying something that isn't working
Why are yo0u so frightened that the Suuth Korean study is undoubtedly >>>> correct?
It isn't
It frightens you so much that you claim that you hsve to pretend that >>>> it is my study. Even though prior less comprehensive studies reached
the same conclusion you cite comments on the paper from the people
who backed the vaccines as being pertinent. Additionally, stdies have >>>> shown that NO unvaccinated people have died supposedly from Covid-19.
No, they haven't
Aren't you due for your next booster since you have so much faith in
big pharma and they are presently recommending it? Come on John, put
your money where your mouth is.
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he will, for the
simple fact that your orange master plans on gutting medicaid and you
can't afford private insurance, Where as John has what seem to be a
reasonably well working socialized health care system.
There's no evidence of that,
Yes, there is, plenty. Read Project 2025 from The Heritage Foundation.
and in fact the President has said
explicitly for 10 years that he does not intend to cut Medicare.
I - for one - do not trust one word out of that assholes mouth. What he
says vs what he does are two completely separate and unrelated things.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal situation, you did
not intend to write 'Medicaid')
Yes, but irrelevant in the greater context
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating Medicare, but
that is absolutely not on the table at all, not even a little bit, in
current US politics.a By anyone.
Get your head out of the sand.
In their own words (Mike Johnson, JD Vance, RFK, Mehmet Oz):
https://www.cms.gov/oact/tr/2025
Explainers:
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2025s-medicare-changes-would-restrict-older-americans-access-to-care-and-imperil-the-programs-financial-health/
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-changes-coming-to-the-aca-medicaid-and-medicare
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/trump-project-2025-and-the-social-safety-net/
https://medicareadvocacy.org/impact-of-the-big-bill-on-medicare/
Looks like you'll get your wish, at the expense of millions of older and >low-income Americans. But hey, I guess the pain and suffering of a >vulnerable population is worth it compared to the few bucks it might
save me in taxes, right. After all, it's just like what Charlie Kirk
said about the 2nd amendment..."I think itAs worth to have a cost of, >unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the >Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a
prudent deal. It is rational."
Yeah, the death of a few dozen school children every year is worth it as >long as you get to keep your toys, and, the pain and suffering of low
income seniors is worth it as long as it means you get a lower tax bill.
What a wonderful country you've built for yourself.
I - for one - do not trust one word out of that assholes mouth. What heYou have spent your entire time here telling us one lie after another. I've got news for you, the rest of the world isn't like you. Mr. Racer.
says vs what he does are two completely separate and unrelated things.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal situation, you did
not intend to write 'Medicaid')
Yes, but irrelevant in the greater context
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating Medicare, but
that is absolutely not on the table at all, not even a little bit, in current US politics.--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Are you arguing that 13% of the 70-some percent of the worldSimilar to Trump's clear cognitive decline.
population that took the shots have had fatal effects? Fatal = dead.
Tom I think you have reached a level of stupidity that is, with out
doubt , a level never before achieved by any previous poster in the
history of the Internet.
On Thu Oct 2 18:09:27 2025 John B. wrote:
Another thing that seems to be ignored in the "great debate" is the
fact that "More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a
dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world
population."
If the vaccine is as deadly as some argue people 'round the world must
be dropping dead in masses daily
John, they are, It appears that some 13% of the population that took the vaccines had fatal effects from it. I'm not going to take the time to explain why only 13% but what makes you think that you aren't part of that? Because you haven't had noticeable effects yet?
On Fri Oct 3 17:09:13 2025 John B. wrote:
You are ignoring the fact that some 70% of the world population has
received one or more Covid shots... and only S. Korea has noticed a
problem?
John why don't ypu pay atten6tion? Very few countries have run popuolqation wide studies because their goverments forced vaccines upon thier populations, biut ALL of the countries that have have shown exactly the same results - wiold increases in all orgnic illne3sses only among those who0 rfeceived mRNA vaccinations and n0o suchy diseases aqmong the non vaccinated. Or MAYBE you've forgotten the study by Jqa-pan that showed similar results? Similar results are shown in Great Britain. Vaccinations wee not forced upon the people of Denmark qnd these diseases did not appear there.
Exactly why can't you remember what is going on?
On 10/4/2025 12:40 PM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/4/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/4/2025 6:31 AM, zen cycle wrote:
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore he will, for
the simple fact that your orange master plans on gutting medicaid
and you can't afford private insurance, Where as John has what seem
to be a reasonably well working socialized health care system.
There's no evidence of that,
Yes, there is, plenty. Read Project 2025 from The Heritage Foundation.
and in fact the President has said explicitly for 10 years that he
does not intend to cut Medicare.
I - for one - do not trust one word out of that assholes mouth. What
he says vs what he does are two completely separate and unrelated things.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal situation, you
did not intend to write 'Medicaid')
Yes, but irrelevant in the greater context
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating Medicare, but
that is absolutely not on the table at all, not even a little bit, in
current US politics.-a By anyone.
Get your head out of the sand.
In their own words (Mike Johnson, JD Vance, RFK, Mehmet Oz):
https://www.cms.gov/oact/tr/2025
Explainers:
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2025s- medicare-
changes-would-restrict-older-americans-access-to- care-and-imperil-
the-programs-financial-health/
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-changes-coming-to-the- aca-
medicaid-and-medicare
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/trump-project-2025-and- the-social-
safety-net/
https://medicareadvocacy.org/impact-of-the-big-bill-on- medicare/
Looks like you'll get your wish, at the expense of millions of older
and low-income Americans. But hey, I guess the pain and suffering of a
vulnerable population is worth it compared to the few bucks it might
save me in taxes, right. After all, it's just like what Charlie Kirk
said about the 2nd amendment..."I think itrCOs worth to have a cost of,
unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have
the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a
prudent deal. It is rational."
Yeah, the death of a few dozen school children every year is worth it
as long as you get to keep your toys, and, the pain and suffering of
low income seniors is worth it as long as it means you get a lower tax
bill.
What a wonderful country you've built for yourself.
Heritage has been writing white papers for incoming administrations
since 1980. They have a wide range of contributors with a wide range of ideas, some inspired and some ridiculous (as with RBT actually), but Heritage has no administrative or legislative authority.
That statutorially required report, just like the Social Security funds report, is bleak.-a Both are liquidating rapidly and that is not news.
They read the same, with the same depressing outlook, every year. It's
been a crisis since before the Reagan administration (at which time
minor improvements were made but those were, while necessary, not at all sufficient)
The document is long.-a Check out the table on page 210 for some historic context and the various other tables, equally bleak.-a This is not an administrative whim, it's arithmetic.
Nice snark on the dead schoolchildren but they are not affected by SSI, except perhaps as minor beneficiaries of dead taxpayers, which is a
small number (roughly one million of about 82 million people under 18).
The much larger question about transfer payments to citizens generally
is quite difficult and perhaps a different conversation. Suffice to say
that Congress is spineless, and always has been, such that taxes and premiums cannot possibly cover transfers. USA is not alone in this and
it is indeed a real and pressing crisis for which no politically
feasible solutions are obvious.
rOn Sat, 04 Oct 2025 15:11:47 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Oct 3 17:09:13 2025 John B. wrote:
You are ignoring the fact that some 70% of the world population has
received one or more Covid shots... and only S. Korea has noticed a
problem?
John why don't ypu pay atten6tion? Very few countries have run popuolqation wide studies because their goverments forced vaccines upon thier populations, biut ALL of the countries that have have shown exactly the same results - wiold increases in all orgnic illne3sses only among those who0 rfeceived mRNA vaccinations and n0o suchy diseases aqmong the non vaccinated. Or MAYBE you've forgotten the study by Jqa-pan that showed similar results? Similar results are shown in Great Britain. Vaccinations wee not forced upon the people of Denmark qnd these diseases did not appear there.
Exactly why can't you remember what is going on?
So much noise and so little fact. Thailand had voluntary vaccination--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
with more then 80% of the population being currently vaccinated....
with no problems reported to date.
On 10/4/2025 2:12 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/4/2025 12:40 PM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/4/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/4/2025 6:31 AM, zen cycle wrote:
I believe he has. I'm guessing you'll be dead be fore
he will, for the simple fact that your orange master
plans on gutting medicaid and you can't afford private
insurance, Where as John has what seem to be a
reasonably well working socialized health care system.
There's no evidence of that,
Yes, there is, plenty. Read Project 2025 from The
Heritage Foundation.
and in fact the President has said explicitly for 10
years that he does not intend to cut Medicare.
I - for one - do not trust one word out of that assholes
mouth. What he says vs what he does are two completely
separate and unrelated things.
(I assume, since you referenced Mr Kunich's personal
situation, you did not intend to write 'Medicaid')
Yes, but irrelevant in the greater context
I'd be in favor of severely restricting or eliminating
Medicare, but that is absolutely not on the table at
all, not even a little bit, in current US politics.-a By
anyone.
Get your head out of the sand.
In their own words (Mike Johnson, JD Vance, RFK, Mehmet Oz):
https://www.cms.gov/oact/tr/2025
Explainers:
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2025s-
medicare- changes-would-restrict-older-americans-access-
to- care-and-imperil- the-programs-financial-health/
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-changes-coming-to-
the- aca- medicaid-and-medicare
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/trump-project-2025-and-
the-social- safety-net/
https://medicareadvocacy.org/impact-of-the-big-bill-on-
medicare/
Looks like you'll get your wish, at the expense of
millions of older and low-income Americans. But hey, I
guess the pain and suffering of a vulnerable population
is worth it compared to the few bucks it might save me in
taxes, right. After all, it's just like what Charlie Kirk
said about the 2nd amendment..."I think itrCOs worth to
have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every
single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to
protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent
deal. It is rational."
Yeah, the death of a few dozen school children every year
is worth it as long as you get to keep your toys, and,
the pain and suffering of low income seniors is worth it
as long as it means you get a lower tax bill.
What a wonderful country you've built for yourself.
Heritage has been writing white papers for incoming
administrations since 1980. They have a wide range of
contributors with a wide range of ideas, some inspired and
some ridiculous (as with RBT actually), but Heritage has
no administrative or legislative authority.
It would behoove you to understand the influence of the
Heritage foundation and in particular project 2025. They
started gaining heavy influence over policy and agenda
during the Bush II (the Cheney Regime), where people were
selected for work in Iraq's green zone based on political
affiliation rather than merit:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/yeariniraq/
analysis/greenzone.html
"It was a bunch of young kids -- had no experience managing
finances -- who were given the task of running Iraq's
budget. It turned out that this group of kids who had come
over together couldn't quite figure out why they'd been
chosen. They finally discovered that what had tied them
together was that they had all applied for jobs at the
Heritage Foundation, this conservative think tank in
Washington."
Under Bush II (the Cheney Regime) Supreme court appointments
were selected from a list compiled by the Heritage
foundation and Federalist Society, and advice from the
American Bar Association was ignored (against nearly 100
years of tradition). Trump openly admitted to using the list.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-05-01/ trump-next-supreme-court-nominee-will-come-from-
conservative-list
All of trumps picks were on the same short list.
Now we have Trump II (even more depraved!), and the authors
of project 2025 are directly involved in implementing the
policy outline of 2025:
Russell Vought - the director of the White House Office of
Management and Budget and co-author of project 2025 - has
been given un-monitored latitude to slash funding approved
by Congress.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c059ydyqe19o
""We don't control what he's going to do," Republican Senate
Majority Leader John Thune said. "This is the risk of
shutting down the government and handing the keys to Russ
Vought.""
Then of course we have white-power christian nationalist
Stephen Miller - whose own think tank America First Legal
contributed heavily to project 2025. Miller - confident he
would get white house chief-of-staff
- had his groups name removed from the report due to the
initial public backlash from policies outlined after trump
also distanced himself.
And here we are, with heritage foundation senior staff and
advisors running the show behind trumps orange curtain.
That statutorially required report, just like the Social
Security funds report, is bleak.-a Both are liquidating
rapidly and that is not news. They read the same, with the
same depressing outlook, every year. It's been a crisis
since before the Reagan administration (at which time
minor improvements were made but those were, while
necessary, not at all sufficient)
The document is long.-a Check out the table on page 210 for
some historic context and the various other tables,
equally bleak.-a This is not an administrative whim, it's
arithmetic.
Not whim by any stretch of the imagination. It's a well-
thought out and meticulously planned attack on the most
vulnerable americans.
Nice snark on the dead schoolchildren but they are not
affected by SSI, except perhaps as minor beneficiaries of
dead taxpayers, which is a small number (roughly one
million of about 82 million people under 18).
WHOOSH!!!!
The point was the analogy demonstrating the crass
selfishness and insouciance of the pseudo-libertarian
magatard ethos.
- Cutting social service safety nets at the expense of the
pain and suffering of a vulnerable population is worth it
compared to the few bucks it might save you in taxes.
- Allowing unfettered gun ownership at the expense of the
pain and suffering of a vulnerable population is worth it
compared to not being able to keep your toys.
And don't give me that "no one wants unlimited gun ownership
" bullshit.
https://www.jbe-platform.com/content/journals/10.1075/
jlac.3.1.04hod
"....a discourse of Second Amendment absolutism rCo that
articulates a set of assumptions and explanations in defense
of an absolutist stance against gun regulation in any form."
That was written by Harlan Carter - the first director of
the NRArCOs lobbying arm and later served as the president of
the NRA.
The much larger question about transfer payments to
citizens generally is quite difficult and perhaps a
different conversation. Suffice to say that Congress is
spineless, and always has been, such that taxes and
premiums cannot possibly cover transfers. USA is not alone
in this and it is indeed a real and pressing crisis for
which no politically feasible solutions are obvious.
Since maga took over the republican party, the concept of
Executive Unitary Executive Theory has gained full steam,
except that it isn't trump actually running the show, It's
the project 2025 cabal.
This administration has stated, and shown, that they are determined to enforce the laws as written in these areas. No intention or effort could
be construed as changing the statutes.
Removing millions of statutorially prohibited persons (some fictitious!) from welfare payments such as fake disability, Obamacare and the like,
may well buy time such that these programs could run at a somewhat
smaller annual deficit.
A significant chunk of the problem are illegal aliens who are,
under
long-standing federal statute, proscribed from these programs. Due to
lax (or criminally cynical abuse) administration of these programs by
most States, this will be a long slog.
[nothing politically likely could turn Federal transfer programs to
fiscal sanity, now or into the far future.]
for SSA administered programs: https://thefga.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Protect-the-Integrity-of- Federal-Disability-Programs.pdf
Medical insurance fraud: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025/09/02/cbo-democrats-covered-up- widespread-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health-programs/
Duplicate/fictitious/unqualified persons used to bilk the federal
medical insurance gravy train with collusion by States:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-million- americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
And on top of our large domestic criminal class, illegal aliens too:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-million- americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
On 10/5/2025 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
This administration has stated, and shown, that they are
determined to enforce the laws as written in these areas.
No intention or effort could be construed as changing the
statutes.
Removing millions of statutorially prohibited persons
(some fictitious!) from welfare payments such as fake
disability, Obamacare and the like, may well buy time such
that these programs could run at a somewhat smaller annual
deficit.
A significant chunk of the problem are illegal aliens who
are,
Complete horseshit. Yes, there are people in social welfare
plans fraudulently. It's no where near a "significant chuck"
and to characterize it as anything more than a minor impact
on overall expenses is an outright lie.
https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fact- Sheet-Undocuemnted-Immigrants-and-Health-Care.pdf
"Undocumented immigrants receive only a small fraction of
total Medicaid and health spending from the federal
government related to emergency services."
The fraud, abuse, and waste is a combination of fraudulent
billing, ineptitude of the administrators, and massive
overcharging for services. If we did nothing but get illegal
immigrants off the roles, _nothing_ would change.
under long-standing federal statute, proscribed from these
programs. Due to lax (or criminally cynical abuse)
administration of these programs by most States, this will
be a long slog.
[nothing politically likely could turn Federal transfer
programs to fiscal sanity, now or into the far future.]
for SSA administered programs:
https://thefga.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Protect-the-
Integrity-of- Federal-Disability-Programs.pdf
Medical insurance fraud:
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025/09/02/cbo-democrats-
covered-up- widespread-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health-
programs/
complete partisan horseshit. That entire page is right up
there with "immigrants in springfield are eating peoples
cats". If there was such obvious criminal activity, why
aren't there indictments? For fuck sake, this justice
department has been indicting people for "being mean to
trump", but they're letting this go? for fucks sake, get a
grip.
Duplicate/fictitious/unqualified persons used to bilk the
federal medical insurance gravy train with collusion by
States:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-
million- americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-
medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
More partisan bullshit, no details, no facts, just magatard
mudslinging and bloviating about fictitious savings.
And on top of our large domestic criminal class, illegal
aliens too:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-
million- americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-
medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
which is a duplicate of the previous site, but no matter.
The impact of illegal aliens on the social welfare system is
insignificant.
On 10/5/2025 5:09 PM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/5/2025 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
This administration has stated, and shown, that they are determined
to enforce the laws as written in these areas. No intention or effort
could be construed as changing the statutes.
Removing millions of statutorially prohibited persons (some
fictitious!) from welfare payments such as fake disability, Obamacare
and the like, may well buy time such that these programs could run at
a somewhat smaller annual deficit.
A significant chunk of the problem are illegal aliens who are,
Complete horseshit. Yes, there are people in social welfare plans
fraudulently. It's no where near a "significant chuck" and to
characterize it as anything more than a minor impact on overall
expenses is an outright lie.
https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fact- Sheet-
Undocuemnted-Immigrants-and-Health-Care.pdf
"Undocumented immigrants receive only a small fraction of total
Medicaid and health spending from the federal government related to
emergency services."
The fraud, abuse, and waste is a combination of fraudulent billing,
ineptitude of the administrators, and massive overcharging for
services. If we did nothing but get illegal immigrants off the roles,
_nothing_ would change.
under long-standing federal statute, proscribed from these programs.
Due to lax (or criminally cynical abuse) administration of these
programs by most States, this will be a long slog.
[nothing politically likely could turn Federal transfer programs to
fiscal sanity, now or into the far future.]
for SSA administered programs:
https://thefga.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Protect-the- Integrity-
of- Federal-Disability-Programs.pdf
Medical insurance fraud:
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025/09/02/cbo-democrats- covered-up-
widespread-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health- programs/
complete partisan horseshit. That entire page is right up there with
"immigrants in springfield are eating peoples cats". If there was such
obvious criminal activity, why aren't there indictments? For fuck
sake, this justice department has been indicting people for "being
mean to trump", but they're letting this go? for fucks sake, get a grip.
Duplicate/fictitious/unqualified persons used to bilk the federal
medical insurance gravy train with collusion by States:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28- million-
americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more- medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
More partisan bullshit, no details, no facts, just magatard
mudslinging and bloviating about fictitious savings.
And on top of our large domestic criminal class, illegal aliens too:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28- million-
americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more- medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
which is a duplicate of the previous site, but no matter. The impact
of illegal aliens on the social welfare system is insignificant.
The states administer Medicad and bend the rules while spending Federal
tax monies:
https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/all-undocumented-immigrants- now-qualify-for-medi-cal-in-california/
https://budget.house.gov/press-release/california-to-spend-84-billion- this-year-on-health-care-for-illegal-aliens
And yes that's only one aspect of the profligate waste in transfer
programs. There are more.
On 10/5/2025 7:08 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/5/2025 5:09 PM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/5/2025 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
This administration has stated, and shown, that they are determined
to enforce the laws as written in these areas. No intention or effort >>>> could be construed as changing the statutes.
Removing millions of statutorially prohibited persons (some
fictitious!) from welfare payments such as fake disability, Obamacare >>>> and the like, may well buy time such that these programs could run at >>>> a somewhat smaller annual deficit.
A significant chunk of the problem are illegal aliens who are,
Complete horseshit. Yes, there are people in social welfare plans
fraudulently. It's no where near a "significant chuck" and to
characterize it as anything more than a minor impact on overall
expenses is an outright lie.
https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fact- Sheet-
Undocuemnted-Immigrants-and-Health-Care.pdf
"Undocumented immigrants receive only a small fraction of total
Medicaid and health spending from the federal government related to
emergency services."
The fraud, abuse, and waste is a combination of fraudulent billing,
ineptitude of the administrators, and massive overcharging for
services. If we did nothing but get illegal immigrants off the roles,
_nothing_ would change.
under long-standing federal statute, proscribed from these programs.
Due to lax (or criminally cynical abuse) administration of these
programs by most States, this will be a long slog.
[nothing politically likely could turn Federal transfer programs to
fiscal sanity, now or into the far future.]
for SSA administered programs:
https://thefga.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Protect-the- Integrity- >>>> of- Federal-Disability-Programs.pdf
Medical insurance fraud:
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025/09/02/cbo-democrats- covered-up-
widespread-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health- programs/
complete partisan horseshit. That entire page is right up there with
"immigrants in springfield are eating peoples cats". If there was such
obvious criminal activity, why aren't there indictments? For fuck
sake, this justice department has been indicting people for "being
mean to trump", but they're letting this go? for fucks sake, get a grip. >>>
More partisan bullshit, no details, no facts, just magatard
Duplicate/fictitious/unqualified persons used to bilk the federal
medical insurance gravy train with collusion by States:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28- million-
americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more- medicaid/aca-exchange-plans >>>
mudslinging and bloviating about fictitious savings.
which is a duplicate of the previous site, but no matter. The impact
And on top of our large domestic criminal class, illegal aliens too:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28- million-
americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more- medicaid/aca-exchange-plans >>>
of illegal aliens on the social welfare system is insignificant.
The states administer Medicad and bend the rules while spending Federal
tax monies:
https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/all-undocumented-immigrants-
now-qualify-for-medi-cal-in-california/
https://budget.house.gov/press-release/california-to-spend-84-billion-
this-year-on-health-care-for-illegal-aliens
First off, it's 8.4B, not 84B, and CA's medicaid budget for 2025 is 188 >billion. That's 4%.
And yes that's only one aspect of the profligate waste in transfer
programs. There are more.
4% is hardly 'profligate'
Liebermann tells us that he contracted prostate cancer in 2007.
I am bothered by the fact that someone with a history of cancer would take a chance on a new and experimental "vaccine" that works by turning you body against itself.
What's more doing it only to say that I am wrong because he hasn't died yet.
Every study that has occurred since Fauci lost power has concluded that the dangers of Covid-19 are as miniscule as I stated and the vaccines even more dangerous than my suggestions.
I worked closely with the highest rqanked doctors in the business and I make up nothing despite the claims of impertinent fools.
If something concerns me I say it.
Fauci left a trail of bodies behind every decision he made and was promoted for the deaths he was responsible for.
I warned everyone about him time and time again. To no effect until President Trump was given the same advice from Dr. Scott Atlas of Stanford.
We can only hope that Liebermann is not one of the 13% pegged for death from the vaccines.
My step son-in-law has massive bloood clots in his lower left leg which is now 4 or 5 times normal size and the lower part and his foot is turning black and dying.
So his daughter gets to watch him die. His wife has given up hope.
The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
On 10/3/2025 4:53 PM, John B. wrote:I'm not arguing anything. Population-wite studes in Japan and South Kora involving millions of people showed that the only people that died from "covid-19" were vaccinated. Quite clearly you can pretend that I am making this claim instead of the studies many authors.
<snip>
Are you arguing that 13% of the 70-some percent of the world
population that took the shots have had fatal effects? Fatal =3d dead.
Tom I think you have reached a level of stupidity that is, with outSimilar to Trump's clear cognitive decline.
doubt , a level never before achieved by any previous poster in the
history of the Internet.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 22:28:59 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 10/5/2025 7:08 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/5/2025 5:09 PM, zen cycle wrote:
On 10/5/2025 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
This administration has stated, and shown, that they are determined >>>>> to enforce the laws as written in these areas. No intention or effort >>>>> could be construed as changing the statutes.
Removing millions of statutorially prohibited persons (some
fictitious!) from welfare payments such as fake disability, Obamacare >>>>> and the like, may well buy time such that these programs could run at >>>>> a somewhat smaller annual deficit.
A significant chunk of the problem are illegal aliens who are,
Complete horseshit. Yes, there are people in social welfare plans
fraudulently. It's no where near a "significant chuck" and to
characterize it as anything more than a minor impact on overall
expenses is an outright lie.
https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fact- Sheet-
Undocuemnted-Immigrants-and-Health-Care.pdf
"Undocumented immigrants receive only a small fraction of total
Medicaid and health spending from the federal government related to
emergency services."
The fraud, abuse, and waste is a combination of fraudulent billing,
ineptitude of the administrators, and massive overcharging for
services. If we did nothing but get illegal immigrants off the roles, >>>> _nothing_ would change.
under long-standing federal statute, proscribed from these programs. >>>>> Due to lax (or criminally cynical abuse) administration of these
programs by most States, this will be a long slog.
[nothing politically likely could turn Federal transfer programs to >>>>> fiscal sanity, now or into the far future.]
for SSA administered programs:
https://thefga.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Protect-the- Integrity- >>>>> of- Federal-Disability-Programs.pdf
Medical insurance fraud:
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025/09/02/cbo-democrats- covered-up- >>>>> widespread-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health- programs/
complete partisan horseshit. That entire page is right up there with
"immigrants in springfield are eating peoples cats". If there was such >>>> obvious criminal activity, why aren't there indictments? For fuck
sake, this justice department has been indicting people for "being
mean to trump", but they're letting this go? for fucks sake, get a grip. >>>>
More partisan bullshit, no details, no facts, just magatard
Duplicate/fictitious/unqualified persons used to bilk the federal
medical insurance gravy train with collusion by States:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28- million-
americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more- medicaid/aca-exchange-plans >>>>
mudslinging and bloviating about fictitious savings.
which is a duplicate of the previous site, but no matter. The impact
And on top of our large domestic criminal class, illegal aliens too: >>>>>
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28- million-
americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more- medicaid/aca-exchange-plans >>>>
of illegal aliens on the social welfare system is insignificant.
The states administer Medicad and bend the rules while spending Federal >>> tax monies:
https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/all-undocumented-immigrants- >>> now-qualify-for-medi-cal-in-california/
https://budget.house.gov/press-release/california-to-spend-84-billion-
this-year-on-health-care-for-illegal-aliens
First off, it's 8.4B, not 84B, and CA's medicaid budget for 2025 is 188 >>billion. That's 4%.
And yes that's only one aspect of the profligate waste in transfer
programs. There are more.
4% is hardly 'profligate'
But it's definately significant.
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
oh, the irony....The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
oh, the irony....The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
On Tue Oct 7 05:23:26 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>oh, the irony....
wrote:
The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
Flunky, only you think that my quoting someone else's study is ironic while Liebermann bragging abour getting cancer before covid vaccinatgions is not. Quote me where I said that Liebermann's cancer was caused by covid-19 vaccine.
It would behoove you to understand the influence of the Heritage
foundation and in particular project 2025. They started gaining heavy influence over policy and agenda during the Bush II (the Cheney Regime), where people were selected for work in Iraq's green zone based on
political affiliation rather than merit:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/yeariniraq/analysis/greenzone.html
"It was a bunch of young kids -- had no experience managing finances --
who were given the task of running Iraq's budget. It turned out that
this group of kids who had come over together couldn't quite figure out
why they'd been chosen. They finally discovered that what had tied them together was that they had all applied for jobs at the Heritage
Foundation, this conservative think tank in Washington."
Under Bush II (the Cheney Regime) Supreme court appointments were
selected from a list compiled by the Heritage foundation and Federalist Society, and advice from the American Bar Association was ignored
(against nearly 100 years of tradition). Trump openly admitted to using
the list.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-05-01/trump-next-supreme-court-nominee-will-come-from-conservative-list
All of trumps picks were on the same short list.
Now we have Trump II (even more depraved!), and the authors of project
2025 are directly involved in implementing the policy outline of 2025:
Russell Vought - the director of the White House Office of Management
and Budget and co-author of project 2025 - has been given un-monitored latitude to slash funding approved by Congress.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c059ydyqe19o
""We don't control what he's going to do," Republican Senate Majority
Leader John Thune said. "This is the risk of shutting down the
government and handing the keys to Russ Vought.""
Then of course we have white-power christian nationalist Stephen Miller
- whose own think tank America First Legal contributed heavily to
project 2025. Miller - confident he would get white house chief-of-staff
- had his groups name removed from the report due to the initial public backlash from policies outlined after trump also distanced himself.
And here we are, with heritage foundation senior staff and advisors
running the show behind trumps orange curtain.
That statutorially required report, just like the Social Security funds report, is bleak.--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On 10/5/2025 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:
A significant chunk of the problem are illegal aliens who are,
Complete horseshit. Yes, there are people in social welfare plans fraudulently. It's no where near a "significant chuck" and to
characterize it as anything more than a minor impact on overall expenses
is an outright lie.
https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Fact-Sheet-Undocuemnted-Immigrants-and-Health-Care.pdf
"Undocumented immigrants receive only a small fraction of total Medicaid
and health spending from the federal government related to emergency services."
The fraud, abuse, and waste is a combination of fraudulent billing, ineptitude of the administrators, and massive overcharging for services.
If we did nothing but get illegal immigrants off the roles, _nothing_
would change.
under
long-standing federal statute, proscribed from these programs. Due to
lax (or criminally cynical abuse) administration of these programs by
most States, this will be a long slog.
[nothing politically likely could turn Federal transfer programs to
fiscal sanity, now or into the far future.]
for SSA administered programs: https://thefga.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Protect-the-Integrity-of- Federal-Disability-Programs.pdf
Medical insurance fraud: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025/09/02/cbo-democrats-covered-up- widespread-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health-programs/
complete partisan horseshit. That entire page is right up there with "immigrants in springfield are eating peoples cats". If there was such obvious criminal activity, why aren't there indictments? For fuck sake,
this justice department has been indicting people for "being mean to
trump", but they're letting this go? for fucks sake, get a grip.
Duplicate/fictitious/unqualified persons used to bilk the federal
medical insurance gravy train with collusion by States:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-million- americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
More partisan bullshit, no details, no facts, just magatard mudslinging
and bloviating about fictitious savings.
Flunky, why do you believe that anyone would agree with someone like you where there is completely documented evidence that Welfare and Obamacare programs are nothing more than way into the taxpayers pocket. Elon Musk with NO political purposes has documented thos sp thouroughly that only some stupid ass like yourself would believe otherwise. Elon Musk was a DEMOCRAT until the likes of the Democrat msjority in the House and Senate demonstrated just what they wanted to do with this country.And on top of our large domestic criminal class, illegal aliens too:
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-million- americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-medicaid/aca-exchange-plans
which is a duplicate of the previous site, but no matter. The impact of illegal aliens on the social welfare system is insignificant.
The states administer Medicad and bend the rules while
spending Federal tax monies:
https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/all-undocumented-immigrants-now-qualify-for-medi-cal-in-california/
https://budget.house.gov/press-release/california-to-spend-84-billion-this-year-on-health-care-for-illegal-aliens
And yes that's only one aspect of the profligate waste inWe presently have a national debt of nearly $38 Trillion which is almost TWO trillion dollars a year in interest. As a businessman you and I are concerned about these things. As a (if you'll excuse plain speaking) nobody with nothing, Flunky doesn't even understand the implications of such a debt.
transfer programs. There are more.
On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 15:07:04 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>Why it certainly couldn't be that someone with a history of cancer should be worried about taking a substance with a documented history of causing cancer. The Smartest Man in the World who remained unemployable for most of his life can't even figure that one out for himself.
wrote:
On Tue Oct 7 05:23:26 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>oh, the irony....
wrote:
The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
Flunky, only you think that my quoting someone else's study is ironic while Liebermann bragging abour getting cancer before covid vaccinatgions is not. Quote me where I said that Liebermann's cancer was caused by covid-19 vaccine.
Tom, the subject of your thread is "Liiebermann". Therefore, I assume
that your "68% increase in prostate cancer" warning comment was in
reference to my recent Covid-19 booster shot.
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/JVqwKjUy/liiebermann#post1>
"The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated
to prove me wrong to you own detriment".
While you didn't claim that my 2007 cancer was caused by a Covid-19 vaccination on 2025, your statement above indicates that I have an
increased risk of catch prostate cancer. That's rather improbable
because I no longer have a prostate gland.
Unfortunately, there's a possibility that all the cancer cells were
not removed in 2007 and subsequent radiation therapy. Therefore, I go
for a PET (positron emission tomography) scan on Dec 4.
Incidentally, the incidence of new prostate cancer cases increases dramatically age: <https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=3d1&data_type=3d1&graph_type=3d3&compareBy=3dsex&chk_sex_2=3d2&rate_type=3d2&race=3d1&advopt_precision=3d1&advopt_show_ci=3don&hdn_view=3d0>
You are rapidly approaching the peak.
On Tue Oct 7 10:38:31 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 15:07:04 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Oct 7 05:23:26 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>oh, the irony....
wrote:
The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
Flunky, only you think that my quoting someone else's study is ironic while Liebermann bragging abour getting cancer before covid vaccinatgions is not. Quote me where I said that Liebermann's cancer was caused by covid-19 vaccine.
Tom, the subject of your thread is "Liiebermann". Therefore, I assume
that your "68% increase in prostate cancer" warning comment was in
reference to my recent Covid-19 booster shot.
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/JVqwKjUy/liiebermann#post1>
"The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated
to prove me wrong to you own detriment".
While you didn't claim that my 2007 cancer was caused by a Covid-19
vaccination on 2025, your statement above indicates that I have an
increased risk of catch prostate cancer. That's rather improbable
because I no longer have a prostate gland.
Unfortunately, there's a possibility that all the cancer cells were
not removed in 2007 and subsequent radiation therapy. Therefore, I go
for a PET (positron emission tomography) scan on Dec 4.
Incidentally, the incidence of new prostate cancer cases increases
dramatically age:
<https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=1&data_type=1&graph_type=3&compareBy=sex&chk_sex_2=2&rate_type=2&race=1&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&hdn_view=0>
You are rapidly approaching the peak.
Why it certainly couldn't be that someone with a history of cancer should be worried about taking a substance with a documented history of causing cancer. The Smartest Man in the World who remained unemployable for most of his life can't even figure that one out for himself.
On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 15:07:04 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Oct 7 05:23:26 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>oh, the irony....
wrote:
The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
Flunky, only you think that my quoting someone else's study is ironic
while Liebermann bragging abour getting cancer before covid vaccinatgions is not. Quote me where I said that Liebermann's cancer was caused by covid-19 vaccine.
On 10/7/2025 1:38 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 15:07:04 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Oct 7 05:23:26 2025 zen cycle wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 20:07:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>oh, the irony....
wrote:
The world we live in filled with people denying reality!
Flunky, only you think that my quoting someone else's study is ironic
WHOOSH!
while Liebermann bragging abour getting cancer before covid vaccinatgions is not. Quote me where I said that Liebermann's cancer was caused by covid-19 vaccine.
<https://rec.bicycles.tech.narkive.com/JVqwKjUy/liiebermann#post1>
"The latest study from South Korea shows a 68% increase in prostate
cancer among vaccinated people. So you rushed out to get vacc8inated
to prove me wrong to you own detriment".
You very clearly, very explicitly, drew a link between Jeff getting
covid shots and his prostate cancer while completely ignoring the fact
that his cancer occurred 15 years before he took the covid vaccine.
That's not irony, that's stupidity. And not just the average every day >run-of-the-mill stupidity, but absolutely abject mind-numbing stupidity.