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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 19:19:40 2025
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    For the first 16 miles of my ride roday I noticed that all I had to do is slack off on the pedalling hard and my heart rate almost immediately dropped to 109 or below which is around 58% max heart rate. Also, it didn't accelerate very much over the small climbs such as the High Street Bridge. Near the end of the 27 mile ride was anoither question - Icame to a stop at Marina Rd. and my heart rate remained at 115 for a full miunute before it started to fall just as the light turned green
    Now this week on the flat route, I have averaged 12+ mph. It does appear that I am improving as my heart rate is taking more miles to get to the point where my heart rate stops responding rapidly to changes in effort.
    Maybe I will be able to get back to doing real hill rides before the end of the year. Fingers crossed.
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 16:18:37 2025
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    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:19:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    For the first 16 miles of my ride roday I noticed that all I had to do is slack off on the pedalling hard and my heart rate almost immediately dropped to 109 or below which is around 58% max heart rate. Also, it didn't accelerate very much over the small climbs such as the High Street Bridge. Near the end of the 27 mile ride was anoither question - Icame to a stop at Marina Rd. and my heart rate remained at 115 for a full miunute before it started to fall just as the light turned green

    Now this week on the flat route, I have averaged 12+ mph. It does appear that I am improving as my heart rate is taking more miles to get to the point where my heart rate stops responding rapidly to changes in effort.

    Maybe I will be able to get back to doing real hill rides before the end of the year. Fingers crossed.

    First, 109 BPM is 58% of 190 BPM, which is well above the 140 BPM
    that's suggested as the max heart for us 80 year olds.

    I've noticed that as I've grown older, my heart rate is not as
    responsive to changes in exercise as it used to be. In other words, it
    goes up slower and comes down slower. In regards for it going up
    slower, I have to be careful not to push too hard until I get it up to
    100 or so, or I'll get a headache and maybe a little dizziness.

    I try to allow my heart rate to drop down to 90 before I get up off
    the Catrike and walk around. Sometimes, after a hard ride and I've let
    my HR drop ease off to 90, I'll notice that it will shoot back up to
    110/120 when I stand up.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 20:51:49 2025
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    On Thu Sep 25 16:18:37 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:19:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    For the first 16 miles of my ride roday I noticed that all I had to do is slack off on the pedalling hard and my heart rate almost immediately dropped to 109 or below which is around 58% max heart rate. Also, it didn't accelerate very much over the small climbs such as the High Street Bridge. Near the end of the 27 mile ride was anoither question - Icame to a stop at Marina Rd. and my heart rate remained at 115 for a full miunute before it started to fall just as the light turned green

    Now this week on the flat route, I have averaged 12+ mph. It does appear that I am improving as my heart rate is taking more miles to get to the point where my heart rate stops responding rapidly to changes in effort.

    Maybe I will be able to get back to doing real hill rides before the end of the year. Fingers crossed.

    First, 109 BPM is 58% of 190 BPM, which is well above the 140 BPM
    that's suggested as the max heart for us 80 year olds.

    I've noticed that as I've grown older, my heart rate is not as
    responsive to changes in exercise as it used to be. In other words, it
    goes up slower and comes down slower. In regards for it going up
    slower, I have to be careful not to push too hard until I get it up to
    100 or so, or I'll get a headache and maybe a little dizziness.

    I try to allow my heart rate to drop down to 90 before I get up off
    the Catrike and walk around. Sometimes, after a hard ride and I've let
    my HR drop ease off to 90, I'll notice that it will shoot back up to
    110/120 when I stand up.
    I really don't pay much attention to the actual number of present heart rate unless I'm looking for something specific 190 bpm would be max heart rate for a 30 year old so the present Garmin software must have a bug. Perhaps that is why they just updated it again. While I've assumed that I have been riding in Zone 1 I have been rinding in the high zone2 and into zone 3.
    You are quite right. Hopefully Garmin will correct this, in the meantime I suppose that I will have to do the calculations manually.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 20:54:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Sep 25 16:18:37 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:19:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    For the first 16 miles of my ride roday I noticed that all I had to do is slack off on the pedalling hard and my heart rate almost immediately dropped to 109 or below which is around 58% max heart rate. Also, it didn't accelerate very much over the small climbs such as the High Street Bridge. Near the end of the 27 mile ride was anoither question - Icame to a stop at Marina Rd. and my heart rate remained at 115 for a full miunute before it started to fall just as the light turned green

    Now this week on the flat route, I have averaged 12+ mph. It does appear that I am improving as my heart rate is taking more miles to get to the point where my heart rate stops responding rapidly to changes in effort.

    Maybe I will be able to get back to doing real hill rides before the end of the year. Fingers crossed.

    First, 109 BPM is 58% of 190 BPM, which is well above the 140 BPM
    that's suggested as the max heart for us 80 year olds.

    I've noticed that as I've grown older, my heart rate is not as
    responsive to changes in exercise as it used to be. In other words, it
    goes up slower and comes down slower. In regards for it going up
    slower, I have to be careful not to push too hard until I get it up to
    100 or so, or I'll get a headache and maybe a little dizziness.

    I try to allow my heart rate to drop down to 90 before I get up off
    the Catrike and walk around. Sometimes, after a hard ride and I've let
    my HR drop ease off to 90, I'll notice that it will shoot back up to
    110/120 when I stand up.
    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 16:58:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:54:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.

    You're right. I'm busy and missed it. I was also impressed when you
    blamed Garmin for failing to adjust their heart rate measurements with
    your contrived bad guess.

    Incidentally, a "flat ride" is a type of amusement park ride. It does
    not involved bicycles:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=flat%20ride&udm=2>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_rides#Types_of_rides>
    "Flat rides are usually those that move their passengers on a plane
    generally parallel to the ground, such as rides that spin around a
    vertical axis, like carousels and twists; and ground-level rides such
    as bumper cars."
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 19:21:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 9/25/2025 6:58 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:54:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.

    You're right. I'm busy and missed it. I was also impressed when you
    blamed Garmin for failing to adjust their heart rate measurements with
    your contrived bad guess.

    Incidentally, a "flat ride" is a type of amusement park ride. It does
    not involved bicycles:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=flat%20ride&udm=2>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_rides#Types_of_rides>
    "Flat rides are usually those that move their passengers on a plane
    generally parallel to the ground, such as rides that spin around a
    vertical axis, like carousels and twists; and ground-level rides such
    as bumper cars."


    Or riding with a not-buxom companion
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Sep 25 17:34:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:21:12 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 9/25/2025 6:58 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:54:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.

    You're right. I'm busy and missed it. I was also impressed when you
    blamed Garmin for failing to adjust their heart rate measurements with
    your contrived bad guess.

    Incidentally, a "flat ride" is a type of amusement park ride. It does
    not involved bicycles:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=flat%20ride&udm=2>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_rides#Types_of_rides>
    "Flat rides are usually those that move their passengers on a plane
    generally parallel to the ground, such as rides that spin around a
    vertical axis, like carousels and twists; and ground-level rides such
    as bumper cars."


    Or riding with a not-buxom companion

    Nicely done. However, I expected you to define "flat ride" as an
    excessively low pressure tubeless tire bicycle ride.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Sep 26 04:51:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:34:48 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:21:12 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 9/25/2025 6:58 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:54:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.

    You're right. I'm busy and missed it. I was also impressed when you
    blamed Garmin for failing to adjust their heart rate measurements with
    your contrived bad guess.

    Incidentally, a "flat ride" is a type of amusement park ride. It does
    not involved bicycles:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=flat%20ride&udm=2>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_rides#Types_of_rides>
    "Flat rides are usually those that move their passengers on a plane
    generally parallel to the ground, such as rides that spin around a
    vertical axis, like carousels and twists; and ground-level rides such
    as bumper cars."


    Or riding with a not-buxom companion

    Nicely done. However, I expected you to define "flat ride" as an
    excessively low pressure tubeless tire bicycle ride.

    I assumed he was talking about riding around a studio apartment in
    London.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Sep 26 07:59:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 9/25/2025 7:34 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:21:12 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    On 9/25/2025 6:58 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:54:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.

    You're right. I'm busy and missed it. I was also impressed when you
    blamed Garmin for failing to adjust their heart rate measurements with
    your contrived bad guess.

    Incidentally, a "flat ride" is a type of amusement park ride. It does
    not involved bicycles:
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=flat%20ride&udm=2>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_rides#Types_of_rides>
    "Flat rides are usually those that move their passengers on a plane
    generally parallel to the ground, such as rides that spin around a
    vertical axis, like carousels and twists; and ground-level rides such
    as bumper cars."


    Or riding with a not-buxom companion

    Nicely done. However, I expected you to define "flat ride" as an
    excessively low pressure tubeless tire bicycle ride.


    Nice observation. The tubeless crowd views low (excessively
    to me) pressures as a feature.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Sep 26 17:13:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Sep 25 16:58:07 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 20:54:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Why do you suppose that the smartest man on Earth never caught that error? I must be in much better conditrion than I though6.

    You're right. I'm busy and missed it. I was also impressed when you
    blamed Garmin for failing to adjust their heart rate measurements with
    your contrived bad guess.

    Incidentally, a "flat ride" is a type of amusement park ride. It does
    not involved bicycles: <https://www.google.com/search?q=3dflat%20ride&udm=3d2>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_rides#Types_of_rides>
    "Flat rides are usually those that move their passengers on a plane
    generally parallel to the ground, such as rides that spin around a
    vertical axis, like carousels and twists; and ground-level rides such
    as bumper cars."
    Everyone got this now?
    1. Even though you enter your AGE in the Garmin, it doesn't use it for calculating heart stress value but rather an entirely made up age. But that isn't their fault for making such a stupid error. Even though the calculated stress values can cause heart failure.
    2. Accordingg to the smartest man in the world a flat bicycle ride has nothing to do with bicycles but rather amusement park rides.
    Now, is there any questions as to why he couldn't find a job?
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