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I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug.
These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than punching
in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny but wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill, but to
get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and even. I never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty
long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most
think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and
counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you
don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs
are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces
of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug.
These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than punching
in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny but wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill, but to
get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and even. I never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty
long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most
think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and
counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you
don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs
are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces
of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug.
These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than punching
in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny but >wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill, but to
get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and even. I >never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty
long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most
think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and
counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you
don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs
are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces
of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug.
These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than punching
in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny but
wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill, but to
get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and even. I
never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty
long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most
think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and
counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you
don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs
are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces
of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
Most trike riders have no use for bar tape, but my bar set up requires
it because I use the upper part of my handlebar as a help in mounting
and dismounting. My bar tape has just under 20K miles and the right
side shows wear, so I'll be redoing it soon. I'm not looking forward
to it because it will involve removing my bar-end TT brake levers and
then redo the brake cable settings. I'm planning on putting in new
brake cables and while I'm at it, will pull the brake pads and see if
they need to be replaced. Both sides have over 3k miles.
My last wrap wasn't very pretty, since I did it without removing the
levers. I hope to do a better job this time.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 8/28/2025 5:27 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug.
These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than punching
in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny but
wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill, but to
get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and even. I >>> never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty
long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most
think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and
counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you
don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs
are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces
of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
Most trike riders have no use for bar tape, but my bar set up requires
it because I use the upper part of my handlebar as a help in mounting
and dismounting. My bar tape has just under 20K miles and the right
side shows wear, so I'll be redoing it soon. I'm not looking forward
to it because it will involve removing my bar-end TT brake levers and
then redo the brake cable settings. I'm planning on putting in new
brake cables and while I'm at it, will pull the brake pads and see if
they need to be replaced. Both sides have over 3k miles.
My last wrap wasn't very pretty, since I did it without removing the
levers. I hope to do a better job this time.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
?? Why remove levers? Tape doesn't tuck in the end.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 09:18:51 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2025 5:27 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug.
These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than punching >>>> in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny but >>>> wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill, but to >>>> get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and even. I >>>> never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty
long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most >>>> think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and
counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you
don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs >>>> are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces >>>> of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
Most trike riders have no use for bar tape, but my bar set up requires
it because I use the upper part of my handlebar as a help in mounting
and dismounting. My bar tape has just under 20K miles and the right
side shows wear, so I'll be redoing it soon. I'm not looking forward
to it because it will involve removing my bar-end TT brake levers and
then redo the brake cable settings. I'm planning on putting in new
brake cables and while I'm at it, will pull the brake pads and see if
they need to be replaced. Both sides have over 3k miles.
My last wrap wasn't very pretty, since I did it without removing the
levers. I hope to do a better job this time.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
?? Why remove levers? Tape doesn't tuck in the end.
The levers interfered with the wrapping. Getting the sticky-backed
tape through that narrow gap without messing up the previously stuck
tape was a problem for these short, thick, arthritic, 81 year old
fingers. I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days. I'll also remove the wheels and the shifters to get them out of
the way, but those are easier to reinstall.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave
keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size
6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I
also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster.
One catch is that they're expensive.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:41:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave
keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size
6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I
also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster.
One catch is that they're expensive. >><https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
Didn't it mess up your fingering? At any rate, I'm definitely not good
enough to justify another keyboard. I only play for my wife nowdays,
who applauds even as my skills deteriorate.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:41:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave
keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size
6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I
also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster.
One catch is that they're expensive. >><https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
Didn't it mess up your fingering?
At any rate, I'm definitely not good
enough to justify another keyboard.
I only play for my wife nowdays,
who applauds even as my skills deteriorate.
On 8/28/2025 9:58 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 09:18:51 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2025 5:27 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
I had to re-rap my bar tape today I lost my Wolf Tooth Bar End Plug. >>>>> These bar end plugs are pretty cool and seem to be better than
punching
in the plug. In the process I had to take off and start over. Funny >>>>> but
wrapping bar tape is no complicated nor highly thought of skill,
but to
get it just perfect is not really easy. I mean nice and neat and
even. I
never get it quite like I like and only one bike I ever bought had
perfect wrapping and no one would believe from where I bought it.
In general over the years however I have done it the tape last pretty >>>>> long and I don't use anything fancy. I did see and had forgot the most >>>>> think to start the wrap on the drops clockwise on the right side and >>>>> counter clockwise on the left. Then it seems with the Wolf Tooth you >>>>> don't tuck the tape in but actually begin wrapping at end of bar.
What do all of you do for the most part and possibly the bar end plugs >>>>> are really just as good use. Going around the shifters is always a
trying exercise to get the shifter covered without those little pieces >>>>> of tape added and leave the indention's for the hood covers to hold.
Most trike riders have no use for bar tape, but my bar set up requires >>>> it because I use the upper part of my handlebar as a help in mounting
and dismounting. My bar tape has just under 20K miles and the right
side shows wear, so I'll be redoing it soon. I'm not looking forward
to it because it will involve removing my bar-end TT brake levers and
then redo the brake cable settings. I'm planning on putting in new
brake cables and while I'm at it, will pull the brake pads and see if
they need to be replaced. Both sides-a have over 3k miles.
My last wrap wasn't very pretty, since I did it without removing the
levers. I hope to do a better job this time.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
?? Why remove levers? Tape doesn't tuck in the end.
The levers interfered with the wrapping. Getting the sticky-backed
tape through that narrow gap without messing up the previously stuck
tape was a problem for these short, thick, arthritic, 81 year old
fingers.-a I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days. I'll also remove the wheels and the shifters to get them out of
the way, but those are easier to reinstall.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
That makes sense, thanks.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 12:21:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:41:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave
keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size >>>6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I
also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster. >>>One catch is that they're expensive. >>><https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
Didn't it mess up your fingering? At any rate, I'm definitely not good >>enough to justify another keyboard. I only play for my wife nowdays,
who applauds even as my skills deteriorate.
I just played some boogie woogie for my wife, who applauded, as
expected, even though I made mistakes.
My keyboard problems are more
likely not enough practice to keep the skills intact. I'll have to
work on that.
Luckily, I can plug headphones into my keyboard so my
neighbors are not disturbed by the poor music at 0330. Strangely
enough, a little bourbon always seems to help. or maybe it just lowers
my expectations. NO bourbon at 0330, though.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 12:21:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:41:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave
keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size >>>6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I
also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster. >>>One catch is that they're expensive. >>><https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
Didn't it mess up your fingering?
Yes. It took me about 30 mins to get used to small keyboard. I had
to think about where to put my fingers instead of thinking about what
I was playing. If I wandered off and tried to ignore my fingering, I
would fumble badly. Finger memory takes time. However, when I was
paying attention, I tended to play much better and make fewer mistakes
than usual. It's much the same whenever I try any unfamiliar keyboard
and/or action. They're all different enough that I need some time to
adjust. Unfortunately, the smaller keyboard took me more time than
usual.
At any rate, I'm definitely not good
enough to justify another keyboard.
Same problem here. By my standards, I'm terrible. I play everything
by ear, can barely read sheet music, and have developed enough bad
habits to be considered hopeless. I can live with that.
Yet another keyboard is a problem. I'm down to one working keyboard
out of three: ><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/Korg_DSS-1/keyboards.jpg>
I only play for my wife nowdays,
who applauds even as my skills deteriorate.
Same problem again. I only play for friends, who are too tactful to
tell me what they really think of my improvised banging on the
keyboard. My limited skills are also deteriorating with age. Still,
I enjoy playing. Judge for yourself: ><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/music/>
Anyway, try a small keyboard. If stretching is a problem, I think it
might help.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 13:03:29 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 12:21:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:41:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave >>>>keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size >>>>6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I >>>>also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster. >>>>One catch is that they're expensive. >>>><https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
Didn't it mess up your fingering? At any rate, I'm definitely not good >>>enough to justify another keyboard. I only play for my wife nowdays,
who applauds even as my skills deteriorate.
I just played some boogie woogie for my wife, who applauded, as
expected, even though I made mistakes.
We have different tastes. I prefer classical and new age.
My keyboard problems are more
likely not enough practice to keep the skills intact. I'll have to
work on that.
Same problem here. When I closed my former palatial office, I dragged
most everything from the office to my house. No garage. That was Dec
2020. The house was so full of junk that I had to bury the keyboard
and rack behind several rows of cardboard boxes. Playing or
practicing was impossible until I cleared some space a few months ago.
After 4 years of playing only when I visit friend with pianos or >synthesizers, my skills had deteriorated. Since I play by ear, I also
had problems remembering the music, even if I wrote it. I was in
desperate need of practice. However, I'm not sure practice would help
me because I rarely play a piece the same way twice.
Luckily, I can plug headphones into my keyboard so my
neighbors are not disturbed by the poor music at 0330. Strangely
enough, a little bourbon always seems to help. or maybe it just lowers
my expectations. NO bourbon at 0330, though.
I also use headphones to keep the neighbors happy.
I'm a non-drinker. I can't handle alcohol. Some wine for the Hebrew
high holidays, but nothing else.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 13:03:29 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 12:21:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:41:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:58:43 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I also have trouble on guitar strings and piano keys these
days.
Have you tried a piano or synthesizer with narrow 5.5in per octave
keys?
<https://thepianoplace.com/pages/smaller-sized-keys>
Less stretch, less pain. I can barely span an octave on a full size
6.5in per octave keyboard, but on a narrow keyboard, no problem. I
also discovered that I could do scales and some exercises much faster. >>>> One catch is that they're expensive.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/177243294028>
Didn't it mess up your fingering? At any rate, I'm definitely not good
enough to justify another keyboard. I only play for my wife nowdays,
who applauds even as my skills deteriorate.
I just played some boogie woogie for my wife, who applauded, as
expected, even though I made mistakes.
We have different tastes. I prefer classical and new age.
My keyboard problems are more
likely not enough practice to keep the skills intact. I'll have to
work on that.
Same problem here. When I closed my former palatial office, I dragged
most everything from the office to my house. No garage. That was Dec
2020. The house was so full of junk that I had to bury the keyboard
and rack behind several rows of cardboard boxes. Playing or
practicing was impossible until I cleared some space a few months ago.
After 4 years of playing only when I visit friend with pianos or synthesizers, my skills had deteriorated. Since I play by ear, I also
had problems remembering the music, even if I wrote it. I was in
desperate need of practice. However, I'm not sure practice would help
me because I rarely play a piece the same way twice.
Luckily, I can plug headphones into my keyboard so my
neighbors are not disturbed by the poor music at 0330. Strangely
enough, a little bourbon always seems to help. or maybe it just lowers
my expectations. NO bourbon at 0330, though.
I also use headphones to keep the neighbors happy.
I'm a non-drinker. I can't handle alcohol. Some wine for the Hebrew
high holidays, but nothing else.
