• Ian Boswell breaks Mt. Washington hill climb record

    From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Aug 21 17:40:17 2025
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    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds

    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and
    peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire)
    that "is mostly flat"...

    "rCLI think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the hardest in the world,rCY [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. rCLMeter for meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.rCY WomenrCOs record holder Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: rCLItrCOs harder than almost
    every climb IrCOve done.rCY
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Aug 21 22:38:35 2025
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    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds

    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire) that "is mostly flat"...

    "rCLI think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the hardest in the world,rCY [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. rCLMeter for meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.rCY WomenrCOs record holder Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: rCLItrCOs harder than almost every climb IrCOve done.rCY


    And she seems to go out of her way to find truly awful climbs! She is top
    of the leaderboards on lots of the climbs back in Wales as she is from the
    same vague area.

    12.6% over 7 miles is definitely tasty, even without any 22% ramps!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Axel Reichert@mail@axel-reichert.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Aug 22 11:24:11 2025
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    Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> writes:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds

    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and
    peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire)
    that "is mostly flat"...

    "rCLI think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the
    hardest in the world,rCY [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. rCLMeter for >> meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.rCY WomenrCOs record holder
    Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: rCLItrCOs harder than almost
    every climb IrCOve done.rCY


    And she seems to go out of her way to find truly awful climbs! She is top
    of the leaderboards on lots of the climbs back in Wales as she is from the same vague area.

    12.6% over 7 miles is definitely tasty, even without any 22% ramps!

    In my pass database (> 10000 entries) Mt. Washington is a "Pareto"
    climb, which means it is the steepest climb for a given length or, the
    other way around, the longest climb for a given steepness.

    Doing a bit of data mining, here is some competition for Mt. Washington
    that I conquered over the years in the Alps:

    | km | Start | End | Climb (m) | % | lp^2 | Name | |-------+-------+------+-----------+------+------+------------------------|
    | 9.01 | 288 | 1495 | 1207 | 13.4 | 1811 | Alpe Fuori |
    | 9.70 | 720 | 1970 | 1250 | 12.9 | 1677 | Kitzbueheler Horn |
    | 12.45 | 471 | 1888 | 1417 | 11.4 | 2009 | L'Erie |
    | 15.30 | 442 | 2157 | 1715 | 11.2 | 2009 | Rionda |
    | 14.85 | 842 | 2451 | 1609 | 10.8 | 1889 | Breithorn |
    | 13.30 | 1380 | 2803 | 1423 | 10.7 | 1562 | Oetztaler Gletscher |
    | 12.32 | 710 | 2025 | 1315 | 10.7 | 1638 | Hochsteinhuette |
    | 12.20 | 551 | 1852 | 1301 | 10.7 | 1649 | Mortirolo |
    | 12.00 | 540 | 1764 | 1224 | 10.2 | 1273 | Gerlitzen-Alpenstrasse |
    | 16.70 | 725 | 2394 | 1669 | 10.0 | 2102 | Grosser Oscheniksee |
    | 13.13 | 218 | 1525 | 1307 | 10.0 | 1415 | Prati di Nago | |-------+-------+------+-----------+------+------+------------------------|
    | 12.40 | 488 | 1908 | 1420 | 11.5 | 1718 | Mount Washington |

    The "lp^2" is a piecewise sum over the segments of a climb, squaring
    the segment's gradient in % and multiplying by the segment's length.
    Among climb enthusiast this is the "gold standard" for measuring the
    difficulty of a climb. I can tell you that you will have vivid
    memories for everything you have done above 1500 difficulty ...

    It goes without saying that almost everything that is done during the
    Tour de France is easy by comparison, the Ventoux has about 1300, and
    the oh-so-famous L'Alpe d'Huez, ugly, short, not high, flat, easy (by comparison) a meagre 900. (-:

    The Zillertaler ridge road alone offers 6 ways to get up there
    beyond 1300:

    https://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/zillertaler-hoehenstrasse/#auffahrten

    And the Monte Grappa has 7 ways to the top above 1400.

    Best regards,

    Axel
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Aug 22 10:20:03 2025
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    On 8/22/2025 5:24 AM, Axel Reichert wrote:
    Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> writes:

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds

    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and
    peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire) >>> that "is mostly flat"...

    "rCLI think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the >>> hardest in the world,rCY [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. rCLMeter for >>> meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.rCY WomenrCOs record holder
    Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: rCLItrCOs harder than almost
    every climb IrCOve done.rCY


    And she seems to go out of her way to find truly awful climbs! She is top
    of the leaderboards on lots of the climbs back in Wales as she is from the >> same vague area.

    12.6% over 7 miles is definitely tasty, even without any 22% ramps!

    In my pass database (> 10000 entries) Mt. Washington is a "Pareto"
    climb, which means it is the steepest climb for a given length or, the
    other way around, the longest climb for a given steepness.

    Doing a bit of data mining, here is some competition for Mt. Washington
    that I conquered over the years in the Alps:

    | km | Start | End | Climb (m) | % | lp^2 | Name | |-------+-------+------+-----------+------+------+------------------------|
    | 9.01 | 288 | 1495 | 1207 | 13.4 | 1811 | Alpe Fuori |
    | 9.70 | 720 | 1970 | 1250 | 12.9 | 1677 | Kitzbueheler Horn |
    | 12.45 | 471 | 1888 | 1417 | 11.4 | 2009 | L'Erie |
    | 15.30 | 442 | 2157 | 1715 | 11.2 | 2009 | Rionda |
    | 14.85 | 842 | 2451 | 1609 | 10.8 | 1889 | Breithorn |
    | 13.30 | 1380 | 2803 | 1423 | 10.7 | 1562 | Oetztaler Gletscher |
    | 12.32 | 710 | 2025 | 1315 | 10.7 | 1638 | Hochsteinhuette |
    | 12.20 | 551 | 1852 | 1301 | 10.7 | 1649 | Mortirolo |
    | 12.00 | 540 | 1764 | 1224 | 10.2 | 1273 | Gerlitzen-Alpenstrasse |
    | 16.70 | 725 | 2394 | 1669 | 10.0 | 2102 | Grosser Oscheniksee |
    | 13.13 | 218 | 1525 | 1307 | 10.0 | 1415 | Prati di Nago | |-------+-------+------+-----------+------+------+------------------------|
    | 12.40 | 488 | 1908 | 1420 | 11.5 | 1718 | Mount Washington |

    The "lp^2" is a piecewise sum over the segments of a climb, squaring
    the segment's gradient in % and multiplying by the segment's length.
    Among climb enthusiast this is the "gold standard" for measuring the difficulty of a climb. I can tell you that you will have vivid
    memories for everything you have done above 1500 difficulty ...

    It goes without saying that almost everything that is done during the
    Tour de France is easy by comparison, the Ventoux has about 1300, and
    the oh-so-famous L'Alpe d'Huez, ugly, short, not high, flat, easy (by comparison) a meagre 900. (-:

    The Zillertaler ridge road alone offers 6 ways to get up there
    beyond 1300:

    https://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/zillertaler-hoehenstrasse/#auffahrten

    And the Monte Grappa has 7 ways to the top above 1400.

    Best regards,

    Axel

    Thats a nice database you have there. Many years ago I created a spread
    sheet with the categorized climbs in the three grand tours for that
    year, with trends lines per category - long since gone over the last two decades of various PCs and storage devices.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Aug 22 20:14:45 2025
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    On Thu Aug 21 17:40:17 2025 zen cycle wrote:
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds

    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and
    peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire)
    that "is mostly flat"...

    "?I think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the hardest in the world,? [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. ?Meter for
    meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.? Women?s record holder
    Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: ?It?s harder than almost
    every climb I?ve done.?
    What we DO know is that Flunky coulodn't climb an ant hill. He rides "virtuaol rides" and claims that he is coming in 2nd in virtual races as if any self respecting racer would be involved in a "virtual" race.
    And Flunky is attempting now to tell us that the company he works for is at the top of Mt. Washington and not down on the perfectly flat ground on the St. Lawrence seaway.
    Flunky is just thrilled to death that a world class loser like Gavin Newscum is going to run for Pr4esident in two years. Let's see how that goes for the man who did 2, 200 mile rides filled with climbing with an average speed of 20 mph. Tell us, Flunky, were those also virtual?
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Aug 22 15:24:32 2025
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    On 8/22/2025 3:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu Aug 21 17:40:17 2025 zen cycle wrote:
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds

    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and
    peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire)
    that "is mostly flat"...

    "?I think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the
    hardest in the world,? [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. ?Meter for
    meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.? Women?s record holder
    Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: ?It?s harder than almost
    every climb I?ve done.?




    What we DO know is that Flunky coulodn't climb an ant hill. He rides "virtuaol rides" and claims that he is coming in 2nd in virtual races as if any self respecting racer would be involved in a "virtual" race.

    And Flunky is attempting now to tell us that the company he works for is at the top of Mt. Washington and not down on the perfectly flat ground on the St. Lawrence seaway.

    Flunky is just thrilled to death that a world class loser like Gavin Newscum is going to run for Pr4esident in two years. Let's see how that goes for the man who did 2, 200 mile rides filled with climbing with an average speed of 20 mph. Tell us, Flunky, were those also virtual?

    From St Lawrence Seaway to the closest point in
    Massachusetts is over a hundred miles.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Aug 22 17:25:32 2025
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    On 8/22/2025 3:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:


    wow....you are such an unbelievably painfully stupid individual...


    What we DO know is that Flunky coulodn't climb an ant hill.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/1187349546/overview
    That wasn't virtual, buttercup

    He rides
    "virtuaol rides" and claims that he is coming in 2nd in virtual races
    as if any self respecting racer would be involved in a "virtual" race.

    Jay Vine won the gold medal in the UCI Cycling Esports World
    Championships. He rides for UAE and is on contract through 2027. In 2023
    he won the GC in the tour down under, 2024 he won the KOM jersey in the Vuelta, and this year won the points competition at both the Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali and the Tour de Romandi, also getting
    second in the KOM in the former and 3 rd in GC in the latter. He's
    currently ranked 49th in UCI world cup points.


    And Flunky is attempting now to tell us that the company he works for
    is at the top of Mt. Washington and not down on the perfectly flat
    ground on the St. Lawrence seaway.

    first off, I have no idea what anal depths you pulled that "information"
    out of, but it shows your knowledge of geography is as piss-poor as any
    other knowledge you claim.


    Flunky is just thrilled to death that a world class loser like Gavin
    Newscum is going to run for Pr4esident in two years.

    A sock puppet is more qualified that that blathering idiot you worship

    Let's see how
    that goes for the man who did 2, 200 mile rides filled with climbing
    with an average speed of 20 mph.

    Who would that be? It wasn't me.

    Tell us, Flunky, were those also
    virtual?

    Nope, those would be figments of your imagination.>
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Aug 22 17:38:57 2025
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    On 8/22/2025 4:24 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 8/22/2025 3:14 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Thu Aug 21 17:40:17 2025 zen cycle-a wrote:
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/free-from-uci-limits-inside-pete-
    stetina-and-ian-boswells-super-light-mt-washington-hillclimb-bike-builds >>>
    Lots of fun information here on the old records, the new records, and
    peoples opinion of what in tommy's opinion is in a state (New Hampshire) >>> that "is mostly flat"...

    "?I think it is the hardest mountain in the U.S. Maybe even one of the
    hardest in the world,? [Peter] Stetina told Cycling Weekly. ?Meter for
    meter, it is harder than the Zoncolan or Angliru.? Women?s record holder >>> Illi Gardner echoed the sentiment, saying: ?It?s harder than almost
    every climb I?ve done.?




    What we DO know is that Flunky coulodn't climb an ant hill. He rides
    "virtuaol rides" and claims that he is coming in 2nd in virtual races
    as if any self respecting racer would be involved in a "virtual" race.

    And Flunky is attempting now to tell us that the company he works for
    is at the top of Mt. Washington and not down on the perfectly flat
    ground on the St. Lawrence seaway.

    Flunky is just thrilled to death that a world class loser like Gavin
    Newscum is going to run for Pr4esident in two years. Let's see how
    that goes for the man who did 2, 200 mile rides filled with climbing
    with an average speed of 20 mph. Tell us, Flunky, were those also
    virtual?

    From St Lawrence Seaway to the-a closest point in Massachusetts is over
    a hundred miles.


    the closest the St. Lawrence seaway comes to Mass as the crow flies is
    about 170 miles from the northwest corner of my state to a location
    roughly in the area of Sainte Agnes de Dundee, Quebec. The closest point
    to my office is ~230 miles to the town of La Prarie, Quebec (272 miles driving)
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